Real parents are gardeners, not masons. You don't sculpt your children. You help them grow. Tell me, Trent, is it of any coincidence that the brightest of your students is the one that spent the most time away from you?
Side note: I LOVE Tal's portrayal of Caduceus throughout all this. The eye rolling, dry snickers to himself, wry smiles.... You can really see how he is sitting there thinking 'Wow, this is literally the stupidest thing I think I have ever heard.'
Cad is very wise but not learned so yeah to him Trent is spouting nonsense, the ravings of a man who has long since forsaken his nature and humanity in exchange for power and control.
Caleb and the two Mage Disciples (Astrid and Eadwulf) who are practically right next to Trent. Astrid and Eadwulf are like Caleb x2 and Trent is like all three of them x1000 in terms of magic power. Trent Ikithon is practically Darth Sidious in terms of power.
You know it took all of Beau’s fortitude not to jump the table when Trent started taking credit for Caleb’s accomplishments. She knows the game he’s playing, she experienced it as a child. And she also knows that Caleb has achieved what he has IN SPITE of Trent, not because of him.
That’s a great point. It’s kind of interesting that Beau and Caleb are so close and relate together well but as far as I can remember they never explicitly acknowledged that it’s because they both had abusive mentors trying to “help” them “achieve their potential”
Yasha & Veth/Nott were ready to literally cut & run, Beau, Jester & Cad were absorbing, and Fjord was calculating escape options, which is why he asked Trent to mess with the tower. He was gauging Trent's wiring, as it were. If shit had gone down though, the Nein would've been screwed.
It's beautiful how Caduceus reacts the exact opposite of how Percy would have. Percy would have probably agreed (depending on at what point in their life of course)
*HUGE* distinction between those two, there. SPOILERS - - - - - Cerberus Caleb would be a beacon of light and teaching and stability, exerting his influence to promote stability and peace and cooperation with the Dynasty. He would teach young minds the dangers of single-minded pursuits of power, of the various non-violent ways magic can be used to solve problems, and to think laterally and independently. Cerberus Bren would be iron-fisted, brutal, with liberal use of Volstruckers and wanton plundering of knowledge and artifacts. With everything the Nein has come across, imagine where he would know to deploy his Volstrucker; Rumblecusp has shards and gateways from other planes on it and could have untold treasures or magical artifacts; He's visited multiple Aeorian Ruins in Eiselcross; He could seize the HFB from Yussah and fully plunder its depths for himself... He would become incredibly powerful, but he would be perhaps even more brutal than Trent, as Trent at least has his eccentricities and idle curiosities, whereas the fully actualized dark side of Caleb that we saw in Ep 127 would have no such idleness or tendencies. He would be a tyrant.
@@TheVladis14 Hey man. Try to tell me we didn't enjoy watching Anakin's fall in Episodes 1, 2, and 3, in some weird, inevitable, twisted way. A well-made and told villain is sometimes way more satisfying than any hero could ever be. When you understand exactly how they came to be that way.
Ironically, Trent saying he molded Caleb for "thr greater good" is perfectly correct. Just his opinion on what that means, vs what the greater good is actually was for the empire.
If I remember correctly, the symbol was something the woman who helped Caleb escape Vergessen Sanatorium was wearing or handed to him. This was Trent showing Caleb that it was him who orchestrated his "escape."
@@orkan69 Super late update on that: Matt revealed in the wrap up that Trent actually had nothing to do with Caleb’s escape. He was just being a manipulative POS.
@@Boundwithflame23 Normally, I don't really have a problem with spoilers. But circumstances have made it so I'm only through ep. 131 right now and I'm watching it all in order. I'm not mad, but please be careful in the future. Especially when the comment is 5 months old.
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Real parents are gardeners, not masons. You don't sculpt your children. You help them grow.
Tell me, Trent, is it of any coincidence that the brightest of your students is the one that spent the most time away from you?
That's a beautiful analogy. Gardeners, not masons. I'll have to remember that.
I've not heard an analogy like that, it's brilliant
thank you for your wise words. I will try to remember that.
I love this analogy so much!
Side note:
I LOVE Tal's portrayal of Caduceus throughout all this. The eye rolling, dry snickers to himself, wry smiles.... You can really see how he is sitting there thinking 'Wow, this is literally the stupidest thing I think I have ever heard.'
Cad is very wise but not learned so yeah to him Trent is spouting nonsense, the ravings of a man who has long since forsaken his nature and humanity in exchange for power and control.
2:17 if anyone wants to see Cad look at Trent like he has lost his mofo mind and actually believes the crazy he is spewing.
@@TheSilverPhoenix100 Sometimes you need a simple mind to find simple answers.
Literally everyone in that room is ready for a fight.
Yet only the Deuce had the cowbells to throw a 12th level vicious mockery at trent.
your profile pic is my face after hearing the deuces balls referred to as cowbells
The devil, indeed. I feel the only thing keeping the Nein from attacking Trent right after eating was Caleb
Caleb and the two Mage Disciples (Astrid and Eadwulf) who are practically right next to Trent. Astrid and Eadwulf are like Caleb x2 and Trent is like all three of them x1000 in terms of magic power. Trent Ikithon is practically Darth Sidious in terms of power.
@@deathbykonami5487 HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHA.
This is gold after context.
"Endured the dark and crawled their way back" is one of my favorite lines. Matt's delivery is masterful
You know it took all of Beau’s fortitude not to jump the table when Trent started taking credit for Caleb’s accomplishments.
She knows the game he’s playing, she experienced it as a child. And she also knows that Caleb has achieved what he has IN SPITE of Trent, not because of him.
That’s a great point. It’s kind of interesting that Beau and Caleb are so close and relate together well but as far as I can remember they never explicitly acknowledged that it’s because they both had abusive mentors trying to “help” them “achieve their potential”
Yasha & Veth/Nott were ready to literally cut & run, Beau, Jester & Cad were absorbing, and Fjord was calculating escape options, which is why he asked Trent to mess with the tower. He was gauging Trent's wiring, as it were.
If shit had gone down though, the Nein would've been screwed.
It really depends on how hard Trent would get hit. If it looked as if he was not going to survive it then Astrid and Eadwulf would join Caleb.
It's beautiful how Caduceus reacts the exact opposite of how Percy would have. Percy would have probably agreed (depending on at what point in their life of course)
RIP unfinished steak
How many times can I say Bullshit to Trent in one sitting? Looks like a 10 tonne truck's worth.
Jester looks PIIIIISSED
I meeeeean
Yeah. Just.... Yeah.
Trent is kind of literally the worst.
He's like Umbridge and Voldemort had a baby.
@@plgrn8r683 🤢🤮
@@plgrn8r683 Did you REALLY have to give me THAT mental image?!
I'm surprised no one figured out he was lying
Just me or is Trent an imitation of Littlefinger?
Littlefinger wasn't the first time a character like this appeared in pop culture but he's a perfect example of the archetype.
Boy I wanna see Cerberus Caleb so much ... or Bren i guess.
*HUGE* distinction between those two, there.
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Cerberus Caleb would be a beacon of light and teaching and stability, exerting his influence to promote stability and peace and cooperation with the Dynasty. He would teach young minds the dangers of single-minded pursuits of power, of the various non-violent ways magic can be used to solve problems, and to think laterally and independently.
Cerberus Bren would be iron-fisted, brutal, with liberal use of Volstruckers and wanton plundering of knowledge and artifacts. With everything the Nein has come across, imagine where he would know to deploy his Volstrucker; Rumblecusp has shards and gateways from other planes on it and could have untold treasures or magical artifacts; He's visited multiple Aeorian Ruins in Eiselcross; He could seize the HFB from Yussah and fully plunder its depths for himself... He would become incredibly powerful, but he would be perhaps even more brutal than Trent, as Trent at least has his eccentricities and idle curiosities, whereas the fully actualized dark side of Caleb that we saw in Ep 127 would have no such idleness or tendencies. He would be a tyrant.
@@plgrn8r683 Yea its probably very fucked up of me but i like the idea of Bren. Idk why, and i dont usualy like evil characters.
@@TheVladis14 Hey man.
Try to tell me we didn't enjoy watching Anakin's fall in Episodes 1, 2, and 3, in some weird, inevitable, twisted way.
A well-made and told villain is sometimes way more satisfying than any hero could ever be. When you understand exactly how they came to be that way.
@@plgrn8r683 I never watched Star Wars but I agree.
@@TheVladis14 Fair enough, I suppose.
Ironically, Trent saying he molded Caleb for "thr greater good" is perfectly correct. Just his opinion on what that means, vs what the greater good is actually was for the empire.
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Mannnn I do wish they'd fought though
What is the significance of the Arch Heart? I still don't understand that.
If I remember correctly, the symbol was something the woman who helped Caleb escape Vergessen Sanatorium was wearing or handed to him. This was Trent showing Caleb that it was him who orchestrated his "escape."
@@orkan69 Super late update on that: Matt revealed in the wrap up that Trent actually had nothing to do with Caleb’s escape. He was just being a manipulative POS.
@@Boundwithflame23 Normally, I don't really have a problem with spoilers. But circumstances have made it so I'm only through ep. 131 right now and I'm watching it all in order. I'm not mad, but please be careful in the future. Especially when the comment is 5 months old.
@@orkan69 oops my bad.
Though if it’s any consolation, given Trent’s track record in the past I honestly wasn’t surprised.
@@orkan69 It's not a spoiler, it's just extra information. It doesn't affect the story going forward at all.