Agreed, I'm excited to get a little more time with the beta (especially getting to spend more time in the character creator), but I'm kind of dreading what social media is going to look like, because lots of people just won't really understand what's going on. Hopefully it'll all just blow over completely once the game comes out and we can stop talking about the game's performance in hypotheticals.
I can for sure imagine there’s going to be a few scaubles, once the game FINALLY (this wait has been unbearable lol) comes out, everyone’s gonna forget about it because the game it’s self from what we’ve seen from updates and showcases is leagues better than the beta.
That's why we need to spread the words, like how Capcom already stated in the announcements, and if they still ain't listen they ain't care about this game that much so why should we care
Yup it’s going to probably be a big problem in the moment, but once the game is out it’ll blow over. Similar to how powder vortex was way OP in the Sunbreak demo.
From what I’m seeing this is meant for those who missed the first beta, I’m one of those who missed it. They at least stated that the update patch would not be present, which is more I can say for other game companies. They’re at least being honest. If people paid attention then hopefully no one will be nuking social media with negative posts
True I do like how upfront they are with it, but still I just know people are still going to nuke the social media posts since not every one is as tapped in as you and I are.
I feel like this is a massive show of trust(?) of the MH Team in the Community Like "hey we letting you replay this for fun even though we prolly really shouldn't So pls have our backs when the dumbasses come outta the woodeork to crucify us for it xD"
I'm super excited myself but I definitely think that doing a 2nd beta test with virtually the same build with the same performance it had the first time is a mistake. Because it will mess with the image of the full game and we want more hunters to join us on launch, not less. My PC crushed the first demo with no performance issues after a couple of settings tweaks, but alot of my friends struggled with their rigs, so I'm hoping they can at least still play it.
Man, I love that we're getting new monsters in this second beta run. Feels like they felt bad that they weren't going to be able to add in the weapon changes so they're adding 2 monsters instead. They said gyceros but also showed a question mark, I guess they'll reveal that later... Or leave that as a surprise for the beta itself. Would not shock me if they did like IGN's last thing this month and dropped that info as part of it or the same day/within 24 hours of it again. Yeah, it's tradition to be able to fight the flagship, in demos/betas, before release but you never know. I'm just happy that we're getting another chance to play it, especially for people that missed the first one. There's enough footage, out there in the wilds, to put to rest most concerns that new players would see from this second beta being their first exposure to playing it on like PC. They will be in a much better position than we were, do to this info and footage being out there so I don't see this as the same or a bad thing at all. Would they benefit from adding like links in the store paces or in the app for like PS5 "here's relevant footage to show how improved later builds of the game are, just in case you are concerned with beta performance". That could help. People trying to use clips from the last beta to dunk on this, while ignoring the footage since then/from later builds are just being disingenuous. Capcom has been very vocal and transparent about this so it's not hard to look this stuff up for yourself. It doesn't take much effort to look at the newer footage. All you have to do is dip your toes in and you can see that these doomsayers/trolls are lying/over hyping any issues. They trust newcomers to not fall for this stuff, is that having too much faith in gamers? I don't think so. We will just clown on those people who say that stuff, with the updated builds footage as evidence. It's for fans and people that are not easily fooled.
Yea Idk my faith in the general populace is at an all time low and I just know some will use the poor beta performance as a way to rip on the game despite them already being very transparent showing us that the game runs MUCH better than the beta. I do hope you're right in the end I think it'll all blow over once the main game comes out and starts receiving patches while the Title Update hype cycle starts!
they had 3 options no beta 2: people mildly annoyed and sad they have to wait beta 1 but they add a couple new monsters as beta 2: easy to do, will sate people's hungers, but will probably cause all the problems you mentioned take current build and remove stuff until it's like a beta again: will take way too long, they're too busy making the actual game worrying about the actual deadline I'm ok with what they picked, I understand why they didn't do the other 2, but I also get the sentiment that maybe it would've been better there be no beta 2
Thats what they said, but if that were truly the only reason why did they put new monsters in it? It gives people who did play the first beta a reason to come back.
@@Jaycan its not even 2 months till the full release. i get your point but i personally see it more like capcom where its an oppertunity for new players to see if they would like the general concept RATHER than a chance for real fans to play again, you can play as much as you want and an even better version of the game just a few weeks later. i would also prefer a 2nd beta with all the new changes and stuff but we probably get an even better more polished version (hopefully) 2 weeks after the last 2nd beta weekend now. for me its only logical that this beta is for newer players rather than existing hardcore fans even tho again i also would prefer the more polished stuff. either way, cheers and happy new years!
For sure! I think its also another network test as well. Thats why I think they put new stuff in to lure us back into playing so they can really try to stress the servers and make some last minutes adjustments for the full release as far as that is concerned. Appreciate the well wishes I hope you have an amazing year as well!
Its an open beta test. Why would it be all optimized and polished. They said they are improving the peformance and on release it will be alot better. Why expect anything now. The few people that are new to the game that dont have a great experience from the beta arent gonna affect the huge success the full realeased game is gonna have. Majority of people that are new or Casual are gonna play when its released. The huge ammount of recognition the game will get when the positive feedback is heard will bring back those players who had a bad experience. Really nothing to worry about
That it the thing though we've already had the open beta. We filled out a survey and gave feedback that they took and improved the main game which is what the Pre-Launch Community Update was about. This is another open beta, but it doesn't have any of the improvements shown in the Community Update. I was thinking maybe they would have improved the performance from the first time that way we can continue to give decent feedback about how this build runs. As it seems now it won't have those improvements so its almost a moot point to gather feedback from this go around since they've already addressed many of our complaints. I wouldn't be surprised if this one doesn't come with a survey since much of the feedback they get will be about things that have already been addressed or fixed since this is almost the exact same build.
I’m excited to get back into the character creator and fight gypceros, but I think it’s a mistake to use the same build after the main takeaway was the performance issues. I’m sure the MH team has done a lot of work to improve performance that will be apparent in the full release, but I think a lot of people will get the wrong impression that the game will not run well with a second beta this close to release. I think they should have used a more up to date build or just waited for the full release but that’s just me
That not simple as "use a more up to date build", that take time and resources and I can see they're focusing on the game itself that they barely have time for those beta builds - like I can notice the OBT build is actually still the same slice of the game with gears and setups from their first open tests on PS5 (which they had pop-in and bugs too)
@@BadEnd98 Yeah I would rather them focus on polishing the game than try to spend time making an up to date beta. That's why I think skipping the 2nd beta would be a good idea. For the fans who know they will love the game/liked what they saw in the 1st beta, they already know they're going to get the game. But folks who still need convincing/didn't play the 1st beta might look at the 2nd and maybe think the performance is still bad, and might choose not to get the game based on what they experienced. Personally I know I'm getting the game for sure, but I still can't say for sure which platform I'm getting it for, because I won't be able to compare the up to date performance before release.
For sure I would've loved to see the better performance that they mentioned in the community update, but alas we won't be getting that. They do have quite a bit of run up (30ish days) to further explain that this build will not run as well as the main game!
Concerning the performance im only taking a pc standpoint here. I have the feeling a lot of people who have problems just run really outdated or maybe overused setups. I have played this on a rtx 3070 and a friend who played on a 3060 and except for a small loading delay we experienced no issues. I think running something lower than that is just not the games fault by now. I understand that not everone can afford new setups but dont blame the game for it. Yes the performance can be upgraded and fixed but it wasnt as bad as people made it out to be
I highly doubt it will be as big of a problem as people think it will be as they will probably have another event soon showing off the other new monster that is going to be in the obt and that will probably detail what’s going on so people will be informed and if people start to complain then they will get corrected by the community pretty simple
Oh yea there will be A LOT of news drops between the game and now. Even the little IGN drops we got mentioned that there will be more to come in January.
Honestly it ran quite well on my system I cranked the graphics as high as they would go, 1440p with a 4070 it was more than 100 fps most of the time with framegen and without it almost never dropped below 60. But who knows, maybe the origiami monsters will get me (please make it an optional setting or event quest capcom) Can't wait to do the other 2 monsters.
Thats good I'm happy for you! I'm choosing to play on PS5 and I was okay with the state of it back then. Now that I know it will be even better I'm more than happy with how it'll turn out haha. Origami monsters for an event quest would be so damn tongue in cheek and hilarious I'm SO down for it!
It wasn't too bad! In the first OBT I made all of these videos running on PS5 some of them on performance mode and some on quality mode. th-cam.com/video/KarmLofujfk/w-d-xo.html&pp=gAQB
Ryozo specifically said the first beta character creation would transfer. We also knew it would to the full game before the first beta came out. It's going to be the same client, just redownloaded it so I can just update it when that comes through.
Go download it from the appstore on your phone! sorry the joke was too easy to make lol! I'm playing it on PS and I wasn't too miffed about the performance especially knowing it was an early build!
It might, but at this point I don't think it will have that much of an impact. Anyone that was turned off due to the issues with the 1st OBT will still have those concerns, and the die-hards won't care, they'll either play again if their experience was fine, or they won't. I do find it disappointing that the optimizations and new weapon balancing won't be in the 2nd OBT since I am an IG main and I desperately want to try out the changes. But I'll still be playing it since I did a rig upgrade for my PC just for this game, and I want to see how much of an impact it'll have. Either way, the 28th can't get here fast enough!
Oh that’s true if you upgraded your PC you can use this to see how much better the improvements are since it is the exact same beta. It will be easy to see what your upgrades did.
Man, I just don't get why this is the route they went. I understand wanting to let players who missed the first beta get a second chance but 2 weeks from release? At that point just they should just wait for the launch or release a proper demo. If the beta was more up-to-date then at least they could get some valuable feedback out of it as well, but alas, this is the path they've chosen. I'm certainly happy for those who missed the original OBT, and of course I'm looking forward to seeing the new monsters in action, but from a marketing perspective this second beta being just as poorly optimized (if not worse due to the two added monsters) as the first is undoubtedly going to hurt the image of the game and MH team, which is a shame. This is just speculation on my part, but it seems like having two OBTs was planned from the start (files relating to Gypceros were found in the first OBT), but they ended up getting such an overwhelming amount of feedback (Wilds' beta peak player count absolutely annihilated World, ~460k > ~330k) that time spent updating the beta build had to be reallocated to fixing up the main build, leaving the beta build in the same sorry state. They probably realized that the main branch still needs their undivided attention as the launch day creeps closer, but the launch of a second OBT was already set to happen, so they just went "screw it" and are launching the second OBT anyway. As you say, I'm looking forward to it for sure, but it will likely come at a very heavy cost.
"If the beta was more up-to-date then at least they could get some valuable feedback out of it as well" I've had this thought as well because at this point would they even have a post OBT survey since so much of the feedback will probably be things they've already addressed in the actual game. I feel like the best things this best is going to do is be another network test to see if they can handle the launch traffic. I don't doubt that we might hit 750K concurrent players at some point if the game is well polished and well received.
Good points, but no matter what, people suck. I'm sure there were plenty of newcomers that got turned off from OBT1 and so this will be no different. You also are right in that there are people dialed into the MH scene, but they will still tweet about performance for trolling and rage bait 🙄
Yea but with OBT1 the narrative was that the game is still months away, but with this next one being so close to release I just know some one is gonna be like “They can’t optimize it in 2 weeks!”
It might have taken too much time away from the actual game to implement. If they have to choose between working on a Beta that no one will ever play after Feb 28th and working on the actual game that people will play for years after it comes out its easy to see why they would choose not to work on the beta.
@@Jaycan Would have been better NOT to have a second beta test then, because I am sure there are going to be plenty of potential players who will try the OBT2 without context and just write off the game and not get it. A second beta NEEDS to perform better than a previous one not just for performance metrics but for public perception and I can forsee the slander online already.
Agreed. It’s a good and bad thing. Gypceros coming is amazing, getting to play the beta again is amazing. Bad thing? Haters gonna come out of the cracks man. Plenty of people online gonna go insane even though Ryozo stated clearly that it’s that same build that is over a year old. And those people are going to except it to be way better, performance, the weapon changes, etc and it’s not going to have any of that and that’s gonna be a problem for those who don’t follow online development stuff or people who don’t know anything about game development.
While it may seem careless to not include fixes in the second OBT, it's a strategic decision from a business perspective. If the optimization is still insufficient for the mass majority of players' gaming rigs in the second OBT, sales would be drastically undermined come release. In contrast to keeping the optimization efforts for everyone to find out on release, sales would take a smaller hit even if most gaming rigs do not meet the criteria. Why? Cuz there will always be people who can't be bother to refund an inferior product for a variety of reasons. 1. Get hooked by the campaign/gameplay and plays past the 2hr refund mark 2. Spending more than 2hrs messing with sliders in character creation just to realize they can't play at 60fps 3. Spending more than 2hrs messing with graphics settings trying to achieve 60 fps 4. Peer pressure/FOMO, they don't want to feel left out because it's the most hyped MH game to date. If their friends are playing, they will play too despite playing at sub 60 fps. The list goes on. Had they implemented the fixes to the second OBT, they would lose out on significant sales from customers with the circumstances I mentioned above because it requires virtually no commitment aside from downloading the game to identify whether you can run the game optimally. The $70 commitment at release will prompt many players to become susceptible to the sunk cost fallacy, causing them to hold onto the game rather than request a refund.
Guess i don't fall under these categories. I immediately un-installed the beta after I ran into my first origami monster. I think you're underestimating gamers. The fact that they won't put any type of performance update into the second beta is very concerning, but it's Capcom. I'm assuming they have a plan that'll get the game running on almost all rigs by the time it comes out. It'll still leave a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths though
@@kingty2550 nah, I’ve made these claims based on me and my friends’ behavior 😂 Worst case scenarios, we even dump money on co-op games we only play for 1 time together and never again lol We’re not rich by any means, we’re just careless. And I guarantee there are more gamers like us out there. Implementing the fixes for OBT2 would mean they’d risk lose out on sales on customers like us.
i understand why thye doing the same playfield on the open beta test. i think they doing this because of the dataminers. if they release the open beta test with the scarlet forest. they may leak everything out and it would ruined the suprise
Now do I spend all 3 days creating cosplay characters like Don Quixote or make complete abominations to flashbang the entire lobby I join where people can't look away from horror?
i think it's the second thing you said, they are a CONFIDENT. the people who don't know this is old beta and decide to skip because of it are gunna casualties. the mass majority buying this game won't even touch the beta. Capcom put so much advertising into this game, it means they want it sell like rise and world in the 20million range. (not all at once but eventually) they probably expect way more than that honestly. if a couple million play the beta 2 which i think is a stretch but idk. how many of that number will A) play it on pc, B) have a below necessary requirements pc C) not know it's old version, and lastly D) be enough of a reason to not want to play so many filters to go through that i don't see a big enough dent in the long run. also i think that benchmark tool they talked about might be out by the beta for people to know right away. It still is a shame that people out of the know will suffer. the push back to criticism could be avoided with a level headed response to quell the salt, but social intelligence and vocal minorities in the gaming community didn't usually go hand in hand and we get the typical responses
Yea its probably going to be a very loud 2 weeks where a lot of people are arguing with each other depending on how informed you are. I really hope the confidence is the real reason.
Hard not to be informed iv been rewatching videos just to scratch the itch 😂 . Twice a day at least I TH-cam my wilds hoping there's new content there's so many ways to be informed of you don't know at this point it's their fault you can take the horse to the water but you can't force it to drink 😂
Man I hope they did some serious reworking on the Gypceros equipment and armor as it was uglier than sin 😂Also anyone new to Monster Hunter I'm always down to help teach you how to Monster Hunter and learn new weapons
I get why one would do that. I’m incentivized to play it for the channel, but if I didn’t have this I would be thinking about skipping it or playing only a little bit of it.
I mean... They've already shown us how much better it looks did you watch the segment I put in at 6:35 that shows the better performance. I put that right after the origami monster part to show the difference on purpose.
I'll have to skip it, unfortunately... Knowing that I had origami monsters on my laptop and that this version isn't improved off of that I'll just get disappointed...
Agreed, I'm excited to get a little more time with the beta (especially getting to spend more time in the character creator), but I'm kind of dreading what social media is going to look like, because lots of people just won't really understand what's going on. Hopefully it'll all just blow over completely once the game comes out and we can stop talking about the game's performance in hypotheticals.
I can for sure imagine there’s going to be a few scaubles, once the game FINALLY (this wait has been unbearable lol) comes out, everyone’s gonna forget about it because the game it’s self from what we’ve seen from updates and showcases is leagues better than the beta.
That's why we need to spread the words, like how Capcom already stated in the announcements, and if they still ain't listen they ain't care about this game that much so why should we care
Yup it’s going to probably be a big problem in the moment, but once the game is out it’ll blow over. Similar to how powder vortex was way OP in the Sunbreak demo.
From what I’m seeing this is meant for those who missed the first beta, I’m one of those who missed it. They at least stated that the update patch would not be present, which is more I can say for other game companies. They’re at least being honest. If people paid attention then hopefully no one will be nuking social media with negative posts
True I do like how upfront they are with it, but still I just know people are still going to nuke the social media posts since not every one is as tapped in as you and I are.
honestly dude they js needa make a big warning pop up when you open the game that says it’s the same old build
This would probably help a lot actually!
I feel like this is a massive show of trust(?) of the MH Team in the Community
Like "hey we letting you replay this for fun even though we prolly really shouldn't
So pls have our backs when the dumbasses come outta the woodeork to crucify us for it xD"
Ah thats an interesting way to think about it because we sure will come out the woodwork to clarify the situation lol.
I'm super excited myself but I definitely think that doing a 2nd beta test with virtually the same build with the same performance it had the first time is a mistake. Because it will mess with the image of the full game and we want more hunters to join us on launch, not less. My PC crushed the first demo with no performance issues after a couple of settings tweaks, but alot of my friends struggled with their rigs, so I'm hoping they can at least still play it.
Yea either that or the performance of the actual game will be SO mcuh better that all this won't matter once the game actually drops.
Man, I love that we're getting new monsters in this second beta run. Feels like they felt bad that they weren't going to be able to add in the weapon changes so they're adding 2 monsters instead. They said gyceros but also showed a question mark, I guess they'll reveal that later... Or leave that as a surprise for the beta itself. Would not shock me if they did like IGN's last thing this month and dropped that info as part of it or the same day/within 24 hours of it again. Yeah, it's tradition to be able to fight the flagship, in demos/betas, before release but you never know.
I'm just happy that we're getting another chance to play it, especially for people that missed the first one. There's enough footage, out there in the wilds, to put to rest most concerns that new players would see from this second beta being their first exposure to playing it on like PC. They will be in a much better position than we were, do to this info and footage being out there so I don't see this as the same or a bad thing at all. Would they benefit from adding like links in the store paces or in the app for like PS5 "here's relevant footage to show how improved later builds of the game are, just in case you are concerned with beta performance". That could help.
People trying to use clips from the last beta to dunk on this, while ignoring the footage since then/from later builds are just being disingenuous. Capcom has been very vocal and transparent about this so it's not hard to look this stuff up for yourself. It doesn't take much effort to look at the newer footage. All you have to do is dip your toes in and you can see that these doomsayers/trolls are lying/over hyping any issues. They trust newcomers to not fall for this stuff, is that having too much faith in gamers? I don't think so. We will just clown on those people who say that stuff, with the updated builds footage as evidence. It's for fans and people that are not easily fooled.
Yea Idk my faith in the general populace is at an all time low and I just know some will use the poor beta performance as a way to rip on the game despite them already being very transparent showing us that the game runs MUCH better than the beta. I do hope you're right in the end I think it'll all blow over once the main game comes out and starts receiving patches while the Title Update hype cycle starts!
they had 3 options
no beta 2: people mildly annoyed and sad they have to wait
beta 1 but they add a couple new monsters as beta 2: easy to do, will sate people's hungers, but will probably cause all the problems you mentioned
take current build and remove stuff until it's like a beta again: will take way too long, they're too busy making the actual game worrying about the actual deadline
I'm ok with what they picked, I understand why they didn't do the other 2, but I also get the sentiment that maybe it would've been better there be no beta 2
Yea that true too. Lets hope they are even more communicative about what to expect when the beta gets closer as well!
Capcom said its for people who didnt have a chance to play the first beta LOL
Thats what they said, but if that were truly the only reason why did they put new monsters in it? It gives people who did play the first beta a reason to come back.
@@Jaycan its not even 2 months till the full release. i get your point but i personally see it more like capcom where its an oppertunity for new players to see if they would like the general concept RATHER than a chance for real fans to play again, you can play as much as you want and an even better version of the game just a few weeks later. i would also prefer a 2nd beta with all the new changes and stuff but we probably get an even better more polished version (hopefully) 2 weeks after the last 2nd beta weekend now. for me its only logical that this beta is for newer players rather than existing hardcore fans even tho again i also would prefer the more polished stuff. either way, cheers and happy new years!
For sure! I think its also another network test as well. Thats why I think they put new stuff in to lure us back into playing so they can really try to stress the servers and make some last minutes adjustments for the full release as far as that is concerned. Appreciate the well wishes I hope you have an amazing year as well!
Its an open beta test. Why would it be all optimized and polished. They said they are improving the peformance and on release it will be alot better. Why expect anything now. The few people that are new to the game that dont have a great experience from the beta arent gonna affect the huge success the full realeased game is gonna have. Majority of people that are new or Casual are gonna play when its released. The huge ammount of recognition the game will get when the positive feedback is heard will bring back those players who had a bad experience. Really nothing to worry about
That it the thing though we've already had the open beta. We filled out a survey and gave feedback that they took and improved the main game which is what the Pre-Launch Community Update was about. This is another open beta, but it doesn't have any of the improvements shown in the Community Update. I was thinking maybe they would have improved the performance from the first time that way we can continue to give decent feedback about how this build runs. As it seems now it won't have those improvements so its almost a moot point to gather feedback from this go around since they've already addressed many of our complaints. I wouldn't be surprised if this one doesn't come with a survey since much of the feedback they get will be about things that have already been addressed or fixed since this is almost the exact same build.
@Jaycan yea true 👍🏼
I’m excited to get back into the character creator and fight gypceros, but I think it’s a mistake to use the same build after the main takeaway was the performance issues. I’m sure the MH team has done a lot of work to improve performance that will be apparent in the full release, but I think a lot of people will get the wrong impression that the game will not run well with a second beta this close to release. I think they should have used a more up to date build or just waited for the full release but that’s just me
That not simple as "use a more up to date build", that take time and resources and I can see they're focusing on the game itself that they barely have time for those beta builds - like I can notice the OBT build is actually still the same slice of the game with gears and setups from their first open tests on PS5 (which they had pop-in and bugs too)
@@BadEnd98 Yeah I would rather them focus on polishing the game than try to spend time making an up to date beta. That's why I think skipping the 2nd beta would be a good idea.
For the fans who know they will love the game/liked what they saw in the 1st beta, they already know they're going to get the game. But folks who still need convincing/didn't play the 1st beta might look at the 2nd and maybe think the performance is still bad, and might choose not to get the game based on what they experienced.
Personally I know I'm getting the game for sure, but I still can't say for sure which platform I'm getting it for, because I won't be able to compare the up to date performance before release.
For sure I would've loved to see the better performance that they mentioned in the community update, but alas we won't be getting that. They do have quite a bit of run up (30ish days) to further explain that this build will not run as well as the main game!
Concerning the performance im only taking a pc standpoint here. I have the feeling a lot of people who have problems just run really outdated or maybe overused setups. I have played this on a rtx 3070 and a friend who played on a 3060 and except for a small loading delay we experienced no issues. I think running something lower than that is just not the games fault by now. I understand that not everone can afford new setups but dont blame the game for it. Yes the performance can be upgraded and fixed but it wasnt as bad as people made it out to be
Yea its just that PC is so many different permutations between graphics card, CPU and Ram amongst other things.
I highly doubt it will be as big of a problem as people think it will be as they will probably have another event soon showing off the other new monster that is going to be in the obt and that will probably detail what’s going on so people will be informed and if people start to complain then they will get corrected by the community pretty simple
Oh yea there will be A LOT of news drops between the game and now. Even the little IGN drops we got mentioned that there will be more to come in January.
Honestly it ran quite well on my system I cranked the graphics as high as they would go, 1440p with a 4070 it was more than 100 fps most of the time with framegen and without it almost never dropped below 60. But who knows, maybe the origiami monsters will get me (please make it an optional setting or event quest capcom)
Can't wait to do the other 2 monsters.
Thats good I'm happy for you! I'm choosing to play on PS5 and I was okay with the state of it back then. Now that I know it will be even better I'm more than happy with how it'll turn out haha. Origami monsters for an event quest would be so damn tongue in cheek and hilarious I'm SO down for it!
@Jaycan How is it on ps5? I hear it performs pretty good.
It wasn't too bad! In the first OBT I made all of these videos running on PS5 some of them on performance mode and some on quality mode. th-cam.com/video/KarmLofujfk/w-d-xo.html&pp=gAQB
@Jaycan I'm glad to hear it ran well for you, I'll check them out.
I'm really hoping I dont have to remake my character again since I played the first beta, cause I dont remember the sliders
They stated that your character from the prior one can be imported into it iirc
Ryozo specifically said the first beta character creation would transfer. We also knew it would to the full game before the first beta came out.
It's going to be the same client, just redownloaded it so I can just update it when that comes through.
Nah you probably won’t have to!
A second beta would have been better this month 2 weeks before release is a bit weird but whatever, excited regardless 😊
True! Like the end of this month then let us wait the entire February.
Don’t care if the game plays like ass, I WANT MONSTER HUNTER NOW 😩
Go download it from the appstore on your phone! sorry the joke was too easy to make lol! I'm playing it on PS and I wasn't too miffed about the performance especially knowing it was an early build!
It might, but at this point I don't think it will have that much of an impact. Anyone that was turned off due to the issues with the 1st OBT will still have those concerns, and the die-hards won't care, they'll either play again if their experience was fine, or they won't. I do find it disappointing that the optimizations and new weapon balancing won't be in the 2nd OBT since I am an IG main and I desperately want to try out the changes. But I'll still be playing it since I did a rig upgrade for my PC just for this game, and I want to see how much of an impact it'll have.
Either way, the 28th can't get here fast enough!
Oh that’s true if you upgraded your PC you can use this to see how much better the improvements are since it is the exact same beta. It will be easy to see what your upgrades did.
Man, I just don't get why this is the route they went. I understand wanting to let players who missed the first beta get a second chance but 2 weeks from release? At that point just they should just wait for the launch or release a proper demo. If the beta was more up-to-date then at least they could get some valuable feedback out of it as well, but alas, this is the path they've chosen.
I'm certainly happy for those who missed the original OBT, and of course I'm looking forward to seeing the new monsters in action, but from a marketing perspective this second beta being just as poorly optimized (if not worse due to the two added monsters) as the first is undoubtedly going to hurt the image of the game and MH team, which is a shame.
This is just speculation on my part, but it seems like having two OBTs was planned from the start (files relating to Gypceros were found in the first OBT), but they ended up getting such an overwhelming amount of feedback (Wilds' beta peak player count absolutely annihilated World, ~460k > ~330k) that time spent updating the beta build had to be reallocated to fixing up the main build, leaving the beta build in the same sorry state.
They probably realized that the main branch still needs their undivided attention as the launch day creeps closer, but the launch of a second OBT was already set to happen, so they just went "screw it" and are launching the second OBT anyway. As you say, I'm looking forward to it for sure, but it will likely come at a very heavy cost.
"If the beta was more up-to-date then at least they could get some valuable feedback out of it as well" I've had this thought as well because at this point would they even have a post OBT survey since so much of the feedback will probably be things they've already addressed in the actual game. I feel like the best things this best is going to do is be another network test to see if they can handle the launch traffic. I don't doubt that we might hit 750K concurrent players at some point if the game is well polished and well received.
Good points, but no matter what, people suck. I'm sure there were plenty of newcomers that got turned off from OBT1 and so this will be no different. You also are right in that there are people dialed into the MH scene, but they will still tweet about performance for trolling and rage bait 🙄
Yea but with OBT1 the narrative was that the game is still months away, but with this next one being so close to release I just know some one is gonna be like “They can’t optimize it in 2 weeks!”
Why the hell would they at least not implement performance improvements in the the OBT2??
It might have taken too much time away from the actual game to implement. If they have to choose between working on a Beta that no one will ever play after Feb 28th and working on the actual game that people will play for years after it comes out its easy to see why they would choose not to work on the beta.
@@Jaycan Would have been better NOT to have a second beta test then, because I am sure there are going to be plenty of potential players who will try the OBT2 without context and just write off the game and not get it. A second beta NEEDS to perform better than a previous one not just for performance metrics but for public perception and I can forsee the slander online already.
Agreed. It’s a good and bad thing. Gypceros coming is amazing, getting to play the beta again is amazing. Bad thing? Haters gonna come out of the cracks man. Plenty of people online gonna go insane even though Ryozo stated clearly that it’s that same build that is over a year old. And those people are going to except it to be way better, performance, the weapon changes, etc and it’s not going to have any of that and that’s gonna be a problem for those who don’t follow online development stuff or people who don’t know anything about game development.
Yup Gypceros is going to generate a lot of dope content IYKYK. I do think we will be hunting Arkveld as the other monsters coming through.
Will it be like last time if u have ps plus get to play it early?
Doesn’t seem that way this go around. We all cross play at the same times!
While it may seem careless to not include fixes in the second OBT, it's a strategic decision from a business perspective. If the optimization is still insufficient for the mass majority of players' gaming rigs in the second OBT, sales would be drastically undermined come release. In contrast to keeping the optimization efforts for everyone to find out on release, sales would take a smaller hit even if most gaming rigs do not meet the criteria.
Why? Cuz there will always be people who can't be bother to refund an inferior product for a variety of reasons.
1. Get hooked by the campaign/gameplay and plays past the 2hr refund mark
2. Spending more than 2hrs messing with sliders in character creation just to realize they can't play at 60fps
3. Spending more than 2hrs messing with graphics settings trying to achieve 60 fps
4. Peer pressure/FOMO, they don't want to feel left out because it's the most hyped MH game to date. If their friends are playing, they will play too despite playing at sub 60 fps.
The list goes on. Had they implemented the fixes to the second OBT, they would lose out on significant sales from customers with the circumstances I mentioned above because it requires virtually no commitment aside from downloading the game to identify whether you can run the game optimally. The $70 commitment at release will prompt many players to become susceptible to the sunk cost fallacy, causing them to hold onto the game rather than request a refund.
Damn man the way you put it sounds so bleak, but thats how big business works.
Guess i don't fall under these categories. I immediately un-installed the beta after I ran into my first origami monster. I think you're underestimating gamers. The fact that they won't put any type of performance update into the second beta is very concerning, but it's Capcom. I'm assuming they have a plan that'll get the game running on almost all rigs by the time it comes out. It'll still leave a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths though
@@kingty2550 nah, I’ve made these claims based on me and my friends’ behavior 😂
Worst case scenarios, we even dump money on co-op games we only play for 1 time together and never again lol
We’re not rich by any means, we’re just careless. And I guarantee there are more gamers like us out there. Implementing the fixes for OBT2 would mean they’d risk lose out on sales on customers like us.
The funny part is as soon as someone does post on Twitter complaining a lot of people are probably gonna go tell them to read....
This is true It'll be funny to see them get dunked on when it does happen.
I'll probably skip the first weekend just so I'm hyped for the 2nd.
Oh that’s a strategy, or maybe focus on one monster the first weekend then do the other on next weekend?
i understand why thye doing the same playfield on the open beta test.
i think they doing this because of the dataminers. if they release the open beta test with the scarlet forest. they may leak everything out
and it would ruined the suprise
That’s makes some sense too! I didn’t look at the datamines so I have no idea if Gypceros was already in there.
@@Jaycan We knew from the leaks Gypceros was in the game. Have a good day!
Now do I spend all 3 days creating cosplay characters like Don Quixote or make complete abominations to flashbang the entire lobby I join where people can't look away from horror?
lmfao either way it sounds like you're going to have a great time!
i think it's the second thing you said, they are a CONFIDENT. the people who don't know this is old beta and decide to skip because of it are gunna casualties. the mass majority buying this game won't even touch the beta.
Capcom put so much advertising into this game, it means they want it sell like rise and world in the 20million range. (not all at once but eventually)
they probably expect way more than that honestly. if a couple million play the beta 2 which i think is a stretch but idk.
how many of that number will A) play it on pc, B) have a below necessary requirements pc
C) not know it's old version, and lastly D) be enough of a reason to not want to play
so many filters to go through that i don't see a big enough dent in the long run.
also i think that benchmark tool they talked about might be out by the beta for people to know right away.
It still is a shame that people out of the know will suffer.
the push back to criticism could be avoided with a level headed response to quell the salt, but social intelligence and vocal minorities in the gaming community didn't usually go hand in hand and we get the typical responses
Yea its probably going to be a very loud 2 weeks where a lot of people are arguing with each other depending on how informed you are. I really hope the confidence is the real reason.
Hard not to be informed iv been rewatching videos just to scratch the itch 😂 . Twice a day at least I TH-cam my wilds hoping there's new content there's so many ways to be informed of you don't know at this point it's their fault you can take the horse to the water but you can't force it to drink 😂
Sounds like a login/server stress test
Could be apparently we got damn near 400,000 online at the same time last open beta test.
@@Jaycan Yeah, I didn't even think about that. They probably weren't expecting that.
So I can still launch ppl with hammer? 🎉🎉🎉🎉 this is gonna be gooood.😂
OHHHHHH YOU RIGHT I'M GONNA OUT OF MY WAY TO LAUNCH PEOPLE LMFAO
The amount of people crying about beta issues that have already been spoken of from beta1...and fixed or changed....oh well. Still excited
Yup yup its going to be a loud two weeks!
Man I hope they did some serious reworking on the Gypceros equipment and armor as it was uglier than sin 😂Also anyone new to Monster Hunter I'm always down to help teach you how to Monster Hunter and learn new weapons
Lol lets see what they end up doing! It'll probably look ok!
I think im gonna skip this one, its so close to release anyways. Id rather fight gypceros and arkveld for the first time in the full release
I get why one would do that. I’m incentivized to play it for the channel, but if I didn’t have this I would be thinking about skipping it or playing only a little bit of it.
Intro sick s always 🔥
I'm so glad you like it! I do plan on tweaking it further once the full game comes out!
The reality is that the game is going to have shitty performances at release. Promises means jackshit in the video game industry
I mean... They've already shown us how much better it looks did you watch the segment I put in at 6:35 that shows the better performance. I put that right after the origami monster part to show the difference on purpose.
Send the OP out the airlock.
I'll have to skip it, unfortunately... Knowing that I had origami monsters on my laptop and that this version isn't improved off of that I'll just get disappointed...
Oh yea I understand that. Origami Gypceros does sound like a hilarious concept.
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