#HighGainHarmony
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- Join me in the first episode of 'High Gain Harmony' which is a new series on my TH-cam channel, where I rig up two different high gain amplifiers to see how well they blend together!
Please let me know what you think! All suggestions for amp combos welcome in the comment section!
Hope you enjoy this new series!
Rabea
00:00 - Intro
00:30 - Intro Chat
01:31 - High Gain Harmony Episode 1
02:12 - HELP!
03:14 - Signal Chain
04:12 - Tone Overview
04:36 - JVM
05:10 - 5150
05:40 - JVM & 5150
07:45 - Adding A Tube Screamer
09:56 - Adding The Fatbee
10:30 - Trying Some Lead
13:40 - Cleaner Tones
15:52 - Other Channels
17:45 - Baritone
19:25 - Finding More Tones
21:47 - Summary
Video edited by John Hollingworth
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Sounds awesome, try the JVM and Soldano together. I do that at home, sounds pure BEEEF :D
It should sound similar to this, as the 5150 and the Soldano themselves aren't that far apart in sound and architecture. Or so they say.
Lucky neighbours you have 😂
@@JaimeNoro Actually, as far as I know, the Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier is the one that copied the SLO preamp exactly, bit by bit.
@@aapddd Shame I don't live next door, i'd be poking my head out the window "OI BEA, TURN IT UP"
Fantastic idea man, I also thought about that, I unfortunately don’t have a Soldano, but I can imagine the two amps sounding remarkable together even though they are amazing on their own already.
FINALLY somebody that goes into this rabbit hole properly, really hyped for this series, much respect!👏👏👏
i would love to hear a 5150 with a rectifier i heard they sound good together
also would be cool to hear the 2 amps in mono, so for example you could have 2 performances played with 2 different combination of amps in a single mix
I think the 5150 and rectifier might be the most popular combo, 5150 has that super direct upper midrange, rectifier has the lows, and both have a shitload of gain pardon my French
Holy smokes Rabea! This video was a huge level up for me. Thank you so much for the stuff you post.
The return of the best amp combo !!
Always awesome, thank you Rabea 👍
No one man should command this much gain. Goddamn just can't beat a Marshall for definition, love the blend of these they complement eachother perfectly!
Can't wait for more episodes, mate! When you got the Baritone out with a smile I couldn't help smiling myself! :-D
Sounds absolutly awesome.
I am excited for this series.
This is awesome, exactly what I’m doing right now. So keen on this series of blending tones!
Top notch content Rabea.
I just love watching u noodle around! Very inspiring mate, thanks!
Dude. Your demos are absolute 🔥 Rabea. Unbelievable content brother. I follow so many youtubers, but you have a groove in your playing that really exposes an amps guts. Cheers from the USA 🍻
Hi Rabea, some troubleshooting tips for the ground loop(s):
First of all, what’s the exact signal path? Is it guitar > pedalboard > split out to both amps? Anything in the fx loops of each amp? I’m assuming the pedalboard can lift the ground on one of the outputs going to the front ends of the amps.
The first thing i’d try is run both heads through real cabs and eliminate the load boxes and see if you get ground loop hum like this. Using the Lehle or any other iso box/hum destroyer device in line on either side, you can ground lift either of the lines going into the front end of each amp to see if this removes any hum at this stage if there is any hum.
If there’s no hum when using real cabs, introduce a loadbox to one amp and see if this adds any ground loop. I’d be surprised if this did given that you’re using balanced lines from loadbox to interface, unless one of the loadboxes has a ground lift switch that’s pressed down when it doesn’t need to be, which might cause the hum.
If adding the first loadbox doesn’t add hum, introduce the next loadbox and see if that adds hum. If that doesn’t, it’s probably happening at the front end stage. Or if anything is going into either fx loop, you might have an issue there that needs a ground lift.
Another test would be to have both amps with loadboxes, but with nothing plugged into the front ends of either amp, and with both amps set to high gain so you just hear amp hiss. If there’s no hum like that, it’s definitely a front end issue that just needs one side to be ground lifted.
I wonder also if there’s a power source issue, but if all the gear is powered by the same outlet then probably not.
Also a few ideas for the next video of this series. Try running two tube screamers or other combinations of dirt pedals in parallel (one to each amp) so each amp has a slightly different signal path. This can get closer to a more double tracked feel.
Also, i’m hearing slight latency on the JVM side so the overall effect is that the 5150 side arrives sooner (i don’t mean the short milisecond ambience added to the tone, just the fact that the 5150 sounds faster).
Just started my dual amp journey… fun to watch, and happy to that Rabea took the time to make this!
Great video. As always.
And great idea. I love blends amps.
Looking forward to hear the other episodes of the serie.
This was awesome Rabea!
Haha! Thanks for the shout out, Bea! I hope you guys are all ok?
Lovely to hear that combination again- it really does sound amazing!
This is a sick and informative segment.
My suggestion is to do something Hetfield style, scooped 80s/90s style tone blended with a nice compressed Diezel giving some defined mids and some chewy saturated low-end. Seems to be a similar thing to blend two different styles. My favorite non-metal tone is Billie Joe Armstrong's who does a similar thing. Modded 59 Plexi that's closer to maybe a lower-gain classic JCM800 and set pretty clean and straight up, and then another 59 Plexi that's got a more metal-y gain structure with more gain for a big scooped saturated low end. So you get the cleaner super punchy midrange response and cut of the first amp, and all the big sustain and palm muting saturation and sizzle from the second amp, all through V30s.
That tone is unbelievable. Waiting for more!
One of the best tones I've heard period❤️❤️❤️❤️
Sounds massive. I've always a fan of a dual amp rig. One with a more vintage British tone for the chewy upper mids and chimey highs, and the other being a modern American amp for the beefy lows and lower mid girth. I also agree the unboosted tone is better.
Man I LOVE this idea! Keep em coming!
Yes! he's my guitar hero I love anything he does
That Fat Bee is the greatest fuzz I've ever heard. Mental! Cool vid, Bea.
Just love this combo sounds so good. Great vid.
For me the lead without the tube screamer was just perfect to cut through without being too fizzy or muddy
Loved it !
Great idea Bea! I'm in!
Outstanding!!!
I ate this episode for Breakfast.
Literally.
Thank you for the very very good morning.
Sounded soooooo damn sick when u kicked on the fatbee. It made the two amps respond kinda differently and made them sound even more stereo and wider. Super sick!
*Great* idea for a series Rabea :) This has been on my mind a lot lately. Would love to hear so much more, some Friedman and/or Diezel goodness would be cool. Love it!
That full bore riff sounded killer at 17:00. Great video man!
Great idea! I have been looking for this topic. thx!
They sound fantastic together
Great video idea, mate! Loved it! Cheers!
Wow, the bari tone is spectacular
What a tone with both of them together!
Sounds massive! Those amps work great together.
Nice to hear that lick again. SICK
It all sounds amazing!
Beaaautiful tones of the JVM 410 + TS. Beautiful singing leads. Gonna get me this head this year!!!!
That sound when you first blended the two together and when you put the reverb and delay in - that's the "BEA" sound to me!
Made me properly love high gain and the way you use it in Toska. It's a benchmark tone that I always chase.
I know its not the same as having the tube amps, but I'm grateful for amp sims where I can semi-try this out. If I tried to blend my amps at home, I'd probably burn my house down! Thanks Rabea, this was very inspiring!!
Please do more of this! Enjoyed it very much
I´m rather the tubescreamer guy! I love it, when the TS9 tightens up the sound! The Marshall and the 5150 are a wall of sound when blended together! Great! Nice series btw! Love yer playin´, Bea!
I remember your "Revisiting Old Friends" video where you blended this pair. Love at first listen. The chunk, sustain and definition is all there. Currently looking into getting a Peavey 6505 Mini and a Marshall Dsl20 just so I can somewhat try this combo. Thanks for this video, the tones were awesome as always!
spotted that sweet killswitch engage riff right there at 9:02 :D awesome video series :)
🧔 I'm a drummer who loves brutal guitar tones. The blending of the Marshall jvm and the Peavy 5150 sounds amazing together. I would have to say separately I love the Marshall jvm on a crunch with the tube screamer. That sounds amazingly brutal in my opinion. Love you and and the new series. 🌻
The JVM has always been my favorite amp since I first saw it and eventually played it after a few years of watching the videos. While it’s great to have the luxury of both amps, one could get away with tones ranging from worse to even better by using a 10 band EQ pedal and a compressor. Maybe even use some of your favorite OD pedals and you’re very good to go.
So cool!
I'm totally convinced that you could make a First Act starter pack sound kick ass LOL. But I'm digging that sound you get when you Put just the JVM and 5150 together.
I know you must be happy to be back with the JVM, you’ve talked about it a lot.👍🏻
Would love to hear YOU demo some Diezel amps.
Great video series idea, Bea.
I've definitely followed your lead on stereo tones, and have for a few years been finding cool blends with my own VX Kraken and other amps. Here are a few different pairings I've really gotten into and have kind of become my default tones for demoing with my band.
1. Kraken Gain 2 and a Verellen Meatsmoke.
2. Kraken Gain 1 and a VHT/Fryette Pittbull
3. Obviously Kraken Gain 1 and Gain 2. You and Martin really nailed how those tones should work together.
Looking forward to what you discover in your tone tweak searches.
I do the same exact thing and have exact philosophy with my Dual Rectifier Roadster and EVH 5153. I put EL34s in my Dual Rec, the Roadster are littler darker, so the tube change helped with that and the bass became less boomy. The 5153 is a mark 1 or first edition if you will, just the standard 100 watt loaded with 6L6s. These two heads played together boosted with Fulltone OCD is sheer brutality at its finest. Don't get me wrong, you get away with either one by itself just fine, more than fine actually, but the combination is just incredible.
Love the sound of the fat bee, so gnarly. I'm a big fan of a Silicon treble booster in front of high gain amps, it kind of reminds me of that.
Oh yeah and those amps sound great together!
Great tone and playing dude!
Dude the baritone sounds colossal!
Beautiful clean playing man!
I think it sounds sick, with both amps together. that Fat B is sick man
Sick lead tone almost borders on too much but at the last sec doesn't go over the edge great new series dude good luck
Good lord that's brutal!
Excellent content.
Great video! As for the phase issues you mentioned in the beginning of the video, maybe this is of interest: the JVM always flips phase when entering another mode. So when going from green mode to orange mode you also flip the phase. As far as I understand, it comes from the JVM's inner working. Basically every time you go one mode up, there is one more valve engaged. Source is a German site that mods the JVMs and stated as a side-note, that when using the JVM is a stereo setup, only use the same modes on only pair it with itself so to say.
Dope Intro!
Absolutely love it
What do I think at this point? Speechless.
I have 0 musical training. Cannot even read sheet music. But watching your videos is starting to give me words to describe the sounds I hear and I really get a lot out of them!
I like the sound of this combination of these amps. The difficulty is to finde the right mix of definition, brutality and special "dirt". I often mixing clean tones with distorted tones to have the definition in the sound, especially for riffs...
I've been blending 2 amps for a little while now. The 2 I am using at the moment are the 20w Marshall Jubilee (Lead channel) through a Greenback and a Friedman JJ Jr (JBE channel) through a V30.
The Jubilee provides the ballsy mid crunch as you'd expect from a Marshall and the JJ is a thick high gain with plenty of top end.
This set-up is just made for Them Bones and We Die Young type riffs...
More content like this Bea please 👍👍👍
I've got a DSL100HR and an Invective 120 running stereo, using a simple a/b/y splitter before the inputs. There's a Boss 7-band eq and a boss PS6 before the splitter, and then each amp has it's own pedals in their respective effects loops. Nothing fancy, just reverb and chorus. There's also a JHS Angry Charlie before the Marshall input. It's great fun to tweak it all, and the effect in the room is unlike any tone I've ever heard.
Dude that Fatbee just had me bursting out, what a P H A T sound holy moly. :D
Try blending the high harmonics of a Soldano with the mid content of maybe a Friedman.
Or with the low end of a Rectifier or his Revv
That is some huge tone right there.
Love this dude. I blend any jvm 410h and a Mesa boogie through a 4x12 marshall cab with a stereo mono switch on the back. And slaving them and pre amps through power amps
Holy shit mate, you look great! Been a couple years since I seen you on Andertons. Congrats, man
A magical pairing, and makes me regret selling my JVM 410 lol. I have my 5150 still but I just never thought to run these two amps in stereo.
It just has everything you want in a modern high gain tone. Good low end response, lots of mids, lots of presence and bite without any harshness, and you get all that string separation & articulation for chord work. Very much that wall of sound kinda high gain tone.
Beautiful guitar Man!!
One thing I would suggest Rabea, use a looper to be able to compare
the same phrase you play, on the different amp settings and combinations of amps. A little easier for us to transfer to our own rigs that way. Pete Thorn does that, it really makes the subtleties more apparent.
On the other hand, don’t stop your live playing! A big highlight of your show, fascinating that you shred like you do with mostly 3 fingers, but it makes your style more organic, accessible, your high sped stuff is just amazing!
Great new series man. I like the idea. I'd suggest try to find the best tube amp to pair with the Katana 100.
Great idea I would love to see the Mezzabarba with the super kraken. Keep it up 👍
when dealing with ground hum issues, different devices ground differently. the best advise I can give is to change where you have the load boxes plugged in. For example if they are plugged into the same power strip, move one directly to the wall outlet. another option is to see if one of the boxes features a ground lift.
Oh I'm going to enjoy this series! Shame I won't have an empty house for the next one, was able to crank it up and it sounded monstrous.
Hi Bea, i have a little trick when comes to your buzz/ground hum issues. Try European (continental) amp power cables with a uk adapters, 2 EU pin to 3 UK pin. I was strugglin with this issue for ages everywhere in UK. And then, by total accident i discovered this trick. I had this annoying ground loop buzz/hum comming out of my studio monitors connected to my PC. I swapped my monitor's power cabels to EU with UK adapters and eureka, complete silence. It works with guitar amps as well.
Also a cheap Behringer Hum Destroyer is very usefull in various occasions.
Take care and keep up a good work buddy!!!
that sounds very good!
Killer sound!! Love it
Diezel herbert
And jvm might be a great combo.
I also find the sound better without the Tube Screamer. Great Video Idea!!
(To me) the notes sound clearer, larger, more organic and less noisy without the T. screamer. Worked better with the baritone.
Because the tube screamer has a natural bass cut and mid boost frequency curve. It would sound better with a bass player
This is a great idea. See if the kraken and soldano play well together.
Oh boy, the JVM sounds like a kiss from god!
Excellent vid. They mixed wonderful together. The tube screamer takes away clarity and dynamics. I preferred the Marshall if the amps weren't mixed.
A Fryette and a Bogner would be lovely. Especially a Sig X or Deliverance, but the Pitbull would be awesome too.
I run my JVM 215 with a modded '68 Fender Bassman, connected from the pre-amp out on the JVM through the effects loop return added to the Bassman. The Marshall pre-amp sounds really nice through the Fender power amp.
This is a magic pairing.
Fat Bee made it the lasagna of Guitar Tones.
I need to hear the Diezel VH4 third channel in a situation like this.
Something I've always digged about your tones for Drop A is that the guitar sounds really thick and woody but it's not muddy at all
Whether that be the pickup, the wood, your hands, the amp or what it sounds really nice
Loved it. Great combination. I did feel like the tube screamer was more of a bass cut than a mid push, so I agree-it sounds better without it.
Such a thick, rediculous amount of destructive, TONE. 😂. The lead sounds awesome with that phat 🐝!! I don’t hear anything wrong with that crunch rolled down lol. That jvm is a sick head for sure dude
Funny that you made this video since I revisited your old video of the JVM and the 5150 rig just yesterday!
I also use the Lehle P-Split to eliminate ground hum and phase issues.
What you have to consider though is channel-switching and effects loop use.
This can (and probably will) also affect phase.
Serial and parallel loops have different affects on phasing.
When you use different load boxes, with different IRs you have to consider that this greatly affects phase.
This is because it simulates the microphone with its angle to the cab (-> phase) and the distance from microphone and cab (->phase)
As the UA Ox uses special stuff, this could be anything.
Normally IR have 200ms or 500ms of room.
Its like you read my mind. Id forgotten about the jvm until your last video with it. I've been trying to set a live rig goal for when the band I'm currently putting together gets going. & I'd literally decided that I was going to go with a jvm 410 & a EVH 5150iii 100 watt.
Cool as. Thanks.
Yes Bea! Awesome video and great idea for a new segment of your channel. I saw someone else posted a similar request to mine; how about budget valve amps? My choice would be the PRS MT15 blended with a Laney Cub 15w Super-Top. Two hugely different amp sounds that I’ve seen produce monstrous sounds, either with pedals (Laney) or without (PRS)
Love the high gain harmony
My favorite Billy Goat!
love this video!! really awesome sound with the 5150 crunch!! please, i love your guitars but i miss something with your les paul, i have a les paul too then i can figured out how you rig can sound with my guitar, it can give me a better idea of what's going on , any way thanks for this amazing video idea!