@@aimanzakh7380 bro as an arabic person you can never speak arabic even arabs dont even know 10% of arabic💀 Reason is arabic has like 250000000 words 🤯
As a Moroccan, my handwriting don’t look like standard nor native, they look like uncooked macaroni pasta even I don’t understand what I just handwrote
It's actually really easy once you familiarise yourself with the letters and one of massive pros is that words are pronounced the way they're written , so after hearing an arabic word you can attempt to write it by combining the sounds you heard and the spelling is mostly going to be correct .
LOL , actually prescriptions in the Arab world are written in Latin letters 😸😸😸😸 So pharmacists won't get confused !!! 😸 BTW , the easiest part of the Arabic language is reading and writing ,only 28 letters and it is -almost - a phonetic language ,, I know you are shocked with this piece of information but imagine this is the easiest part ..Grammar نحو is the hardest even for us native speakers and you cannot speak outside it !
I’m Egyptian, at school they only accept the standard writing form in the exams whilst when teachers are writing on boards or when we do our homework we write in the riqaa “native” writing to speed up the process.
I’m also Egyptian, but in the exam or in notebooks they don’t care abt ur handwriting (in my school) except that one question that says “write this sentence one in خط النسخ and again in خط الرقعة”, my handwriting is just a mixture of both
@@rosiline_san5370 I understand you’re probably in middle school, in high school specially last grade (ثانوية عامة) if you write in رقعة your answer wouldn’t be accepted.
Similar thing in Europe, when we write exams usually is accepted only the cursive script, in other cases lowercases letters and capital letters are accepted
The Arabic script has over 15 distinct types of calligraphy styles; however, the primary ones are: 1. Kufi: Known for its angular shapes, often used in decorative art. 2. Naskh: Clear and easy to read, commonly used in books and the Quran. 3. Ruqa’ah: Simple and practical, often used for everyday writing. 4. Thuluth: Elegant and complex, used in titles and artistic pieces. 5. Diwani: Decorative, popular in Ottoman documents. 6. Persian (Nasta’liq): Flowing and delicate, widely used in Iran and Afghanistan. 7. Maghrebi: Unique to North Africa, with rounded forms. Each person has their unique handwriting style, making no two scripts identical, yet Arabic readers can easily understand each other's writing. Most of these are calligraphy forms not typically used in everyday text; in books and articles, a standard typeface or very similar fonts are preferred for readability.
I'm a South African who learned how to read and write Arabic after reverting to Islam. My handwriting is standard. If I make one mistake when writing a word out of a whole page of Arabic handwriting, I will literally start the whole page from scratch. I also write with specific pencils and pens because that's the only way I can control the steadiness.
Actually both are correct, هناك انواع للخطوط العربية ومنها النسخ والرقعة The standard one is called الحر which is a simpler form of النسخ And the native one is الرقعة Both are correct
And الثلث والكوفي وخطوط الناس العادية والديواني وهو الأكثر تعقيداً وصعوبة في القراءة والكتابة والخط الفارسي والخط الحجازي والذي انقرض لكن الناس تعرفه وهو الذي كان يستخدم قبل الاسلام لكنه بسيط جداً
Ok sooo there seems to be a misunderstanding here In Arabic there are many writing styles. The one on the left (standard) is called Naskh نسخ. The one on the right is called الرقعة (idk how to spell that in English), and yes a lot of people use it, not as neetly tho. My handwriting is closer to the standard style and I'm a native. It's really about which style you learned and got used to more quickly. Those are the two most prominent styles, which is why we were tested on writing in both ways, while other styles are mainly for esthetic purposes (like how the Japanese write Kanji and stuff), for example, the main style used in writing the Quran is neither of those (idk if I remember the name correctly but I think it was the Othmani style الخط العثماني) So yeah Kinda confusing for new learners but that's Arabic for ya 😅
But it was kinda incorrect Ruq'a. Too round. In Ruq'a letters should have more angles. Also letters should connect diagonally while his letters connected horizontally and climbed up like a ladder.
As a Pacific Islander that use to attend Madrasah when I was a kid back 2010 beloe, I use native way of writing. I forgot to speak Arabic now ofcourse but good thing is I can still read but slowly and write Arabic without understanding a word lol. I guess I need to practice my arabic writing, Insha Allah I can use it if I re-learn how to speak Arabic again
The second one is much more beautiful but 0 chance I could read it. It’s like the Nastaliq script used commonly in Pakistan for Urdu (and others), looks gorgeous but much harder to read if you are used to the ‘standard script’.
In Arabic there are different ways to write each character depending on the calligraphy school, the thing is; only calligraphy experts can sort these ways correctly, while for the natives, we just pick the way we like for each character separately and just use it, so basically an Arabic native hand writing is a mixture of characters that belongs to multiple calligraphy schools where each letter is picked based on nothing but personal taste, which means it doesn't follow any order or rule, thanks God I'm native!
Are both standard and native acceptable? I'm not an Arabic native but learning how to read Arabic, and sometimes I write English words in Arabic. I have never seen the native writing before and wondering if it'd be acceptable to use standard or it has to always be written in the native writing. (sorry if this is worded weirdly)
Yes it is. Hand writing is more like a personal style. I know little people that actually write standard, even though it's more beautiful in my opinion, but the only reason is basically speed. But people would love it if you write standard. And noone would find it weird if that's your concern.
It's not "Standard vs. Native" more like "Printer Font vs. Hand writing Fonts" Most people, who are not caligraphers, don't bother to spend the the time needed to exactly copy the printer font, and just write the words and letters the way that comes naturally to them after getting used to it through practice over the years.
@catanddodted yes both are acceptable, I'm native and I use both, but the "native" is easier for most people, this is why it is used by natives not because it is better than the standard
Hello, a native speaker here! And not all of us strictly write that way. As kids, we were taught the standard way of writing, so we imitated the examples we had in the textbooks. As we advance each one of us starts to adopt a personal style of writing. I think the best thing you can do is take the standard as a starter, master it and keep writing using it until your personal style come out. Good luck!
Arabic calligraphy has many styles, with some estimates suggesting over 100 types. However, there are 10 main styles from which most others branch out. So it's really different based on what style you're using!
أتوقع أن كل شخص له معياره الخاص فيه😅، حيث أن الخطوط العربية كثيرة وكل خط له طريقة الكتابة الخاصة، معظم الناس من حولي يكتبون بخط الرقعة أو خط النسخ، أو يخلطون بينهم
An Arab here , that is actually two fonts we learn at primary school , what you called (Standard ) is Naskh نسخ , and what you called (native) is Reqa'a رقعة ..We use both in every day life .
For those who'd like to know the name for both types of writers, the stab is called: naskh. And the native one is called: rug'ah. We use the second for simplicity sake.
I used Mitchell's book, Writing Arabic: a practical introduction to Ruq'ah script. It's actually a complete teaching manual. In the introduction Mitchell takes non-native Arabic learners to task for not knowing how to do this. He asks why non-natives are happy to continue to write "like children" imitating naskh script. The book is published by Oxford University Press and is not very expensive. One of the downsides of not knowing this is that you will NOT BE ABLE TO READ anything that an Arab writes with pen and paper. Just like a child who can't read English cursive.
Native is basically the equivalent of cursive in arabic which is also called رقعه not all people write it but it still can be read like me personally i write standard usually except for س and some other letters, and your hand writing is so accurate to how actual arab people write and its very pretty keep up the good work
as a native speaker i wish my handwriting looked like that but unfortunately it looks different from both ways. my hand writing is absolutely hideous 😭
It is born with you and you can enhance it. There are those who have real beautiful handwritings and there are those who write misunderstood squarish gibberish
I don’t think most people take the time to fill in the loops of meem, fa, and waw, I think they just make the loop small. The whole point of ruq’ah is that it’s faster
As for me a Malaysian that use Jawi script (essentially the Arabic letters but including 5 other hurufs) for writing Malay, I am neither on the standard and native part. Due to my exposure to Thuluth with a dash of Nasakh script learning, my writing now is almost jumjum'atun and mind-blowing plethora of artsy rosy writing of Arabic script of course.
Im no native but the left is my handwriting of my name on the book cover and the right is my handwriting in the book. You gotta chase the teachers pace before she erases everything on the whiteboard. Theres no time thinking about triple dots. Btw im no arabic ok but i rarely use the snail like ه in the middle of a word as in 3:23.. mine looks like 8. The left is standard??
basically yeah, but I don't know about the repeatedly going over the circles as that's not fast, personally i just do one single loop and sometimes it looks like a full dot other times it's a hollow circle. and the " 'ain" typically has a "hook" on the left corner to differentiate between it and "meem".
The difference between the two is like the difference between standard English handwriting and cursive handwriting, I feel. My ruqa’a (native) Arabic handwriting feels very much like my English handwriting, which is cursive. They’re both correct and both common. You can use either one as long as your handwriting is legible.
It maybe surprising for non-arabic speakers that before Islam, Arab did not use dots that differentiate similar letters, because simply they did not need the dots 😄
question for anyone who knows: do you need to hold you pen differently to write rtl? do all pens work? I'm not there (yet, hopefully someday), but i've tried squiggling a few arabic letters, and i feel like i'm stabbing the paper. When writing latin letters you don't move a lot to the left, so the pen leans back and to the right (between 4 and 5 in the clock). I'm guessing I have to adjust the angle to write in an arabic script. another question: do brush pens like the ones used in chinese or japanese make any sense in arabic? i still haven't gone the calligraphy rabbit hole (but it's waiting for me)
I do something in the middle between them both, while I write the two dots as joint like in the native version, I still write the س in the standard form, but the three dots of the ث I write them as two joint dots and one on top of them... I usually try to imitate the digital version, so my Arabic handwriting is now a combination of both... I focus on the letter's shape but don't slow the handwriting....
I believe the Standard version is known as “Khat Al Naskh” or “Khattun-Naskh,” meaning the Naskh script, and the Native version is known as “Khat Al Ruq’ah” or “Khatur-Ruq’ah,” meaning the Ruq’ah script. There is at least one book that teaches to write in these scripts. I will include that book’s name later today God-willing!
Aκριβώς αυτός είναι ο σκοπός, να γράφεις πιο γρήγορα. Είναι μια απλοποιημένη μέθοδος γραφής, αλλά παραμένει εύκολα κατανοητή (αν και μπορεί να διαφέρει πολύ από άτομο σε άτομο).
As a Pakistani I agree, I try to write in standard Arabic (I am learning Arabic) but always end up with something similar to the native, also we leave gaps inside some harf (letter) that native Arabs don’t
It's ruqaa (or riqaa ) script. One of the many, many arabic scripts. I guess it became the main one used for urdu, while arabic mainly uses "naskh" for handwriting nowadays, especially for beginners
Urdu uses a Persian script called nasta'liq. In this script not only do the letters change shape based on where they are in the word, the entire word changes shape based on which letters are added to it. It's very beautiful though
i write more like standard but instead of ة for example with the 2 dots i make it a line. The thing is i have a kinda hard time reading native and my teacher writes in native 😭
@@varoonnone7159 yes , the first one you can see it only in comupters , TV and something like that , but when we want write something by hands we always use the second one cuz it's eazy
In algeria we mostly use the standard, then each changes and personalize it. I personally never seen anyone uses the "native" one, not sure about ppl from the middle east never had the chance to meet on let alone seeing their hand writing.
I try write like that and I'm pretty sure I'm native (Idk, in my house we grew up speaking 3 languages interchangeably, including 2 dialects of arabic), but it's way too hard for me cos I'm dysgraphic. Honestly tho, writing in square kuffic is so easy, but of course it isn't really appropriate to write everything in square kuffic all the time, so I write in standard.
الخط الاول يسمى (النسخ) الخط الثاني يسمى (الرقعة) ليس سوى اختلاف في الخطوط مع ذلك خطك جيد Font number 1 his name is (النسخ) )(Cop) Font number 2 his name is (الرقعة) l don’t know how it’s called in English And your font is nice
Im a native speaker and I don't write like that. That style is more common in Egypt. Edit: Im from Tunisia and since we rarely handwrite you'll find big differences in handwritings but that's the beauty of it, you can reconize easily the handwriting of someone you know.
Great video, however it would have been helpful to leave an extra 2-3 seconds after each native example, some of them changed so fast afterwards it was hard to pause it for comparison and to be able to learn anything...
Arabic isn’t my first language cuz I’m iranian. However, Iranians kinda have the same alphabet as Arabs. It’s just that we have 4 letters more than them (the letters being: گچپژ)
There is nothing in arabic such as standard & native writing. These are fonts , tow of several other fonts , you have them in English too , and in most languages . Plus the one you call "native" looks like that because we write fast , less concerned about how it looks.
Umm they look totally different. Standard at least seems like there are letters, but with second one most people would think it's just draft. Like checking if your pen writes or not 😂
Well, The "native" version is soooo readable for non-native learners. Just wait until you see how most Egyptians actually write by hand-it's a nightmare for Wafedeen.
My watching as a native arabic speaker: But okay The "native" writing style isnt how all natives actually write Instead we usually use the "standard" writing style for its ease of reading and reserve the "native" one for other things , such as whne you wanna get all fancy and shit Though I've met alot of people who only write in "native" Which i hate Because i can barely read it lmao
1:16 & 1:57 : *no.* the final قاف needs a loop. you just wrote تسوين and بطرين 2:15 : these are written faster, no need for the loopy insistence on ميم and عين 3:23 & 3:42 your initial حا is too slim and elongated, it's almost a half circle in ruq’a 1:01 & 1:243:37 the dents of your سين are too big. Read the difference: تسويق / تىىىوين or *فلسطين / فلىىىطين* . In _*all Arabic fonts_ those are distinguished (except the shittу naskh early computers used).
Not one person I know writes like that not even me 😭 the only people that write in Hafsa are my Arabic teachers in school and my dad who writes in a messy form of it like doctor writing. It’s kind of like English cursive you’re forced to learn it but never use it.
0:00 station (محطة)
0:22 today (اليوم)
0:39 restaurant (مطعم)
0:59 marketing (تسويق)
1:19 Palestine (فلسطين)
1:44 penguin (بطريق)
2:02 the teacher (المعلم)
2:19 good morning (صباح الخير)
2:48 crazy (مجنون)
3:07 festival (مهرجان)
3:30 monster (وحش)
3:45 roosters (ديوك)
thanks a million for translating them! now I can add to my new Arabic vocabs
@@aimanzakh7380 bro as an arabic person you can never speak arabic even arabs dont even know 10% of arabic💀
Reason is arabic has like 250000000 words 🤯
Is this the arabic of what country?
@gustavovieira8314 main arabic
All countries its like original 100% arabic
@@gustavovieira8314 They are all both MSA and Levantine, but probably also Egyptian and other varieties.
As a Moroccan, my handwriting don’t look like standard nor native, they look like uncooked macaroni pasta even I don’t understand what I just handwrote
Me too, it's like chicken legs ruq3a
Same lol but i write in latin and cyrylic my handwriting sucks
Same bro
As an Algerian it's the same for me
As an Iraqi, I agree.
when a cursive script has a cursive version😭
It's actually really easy once you familiarise yourself with the letters and one of massive pros is that words are pronounced the way they're written , so after hearing an arabic word you can attempt to write it by combining the sounds you heard and the spelling is mostly going to be correct .
Any language can be cursive, depends on the way people use it
😂😅
The Persian script, Nastaleeq Shiketah is more cursived than the Ruq'aa script used by Native Arabs.
So my doctor writes my prescriptions in Arabic! It all makes sense now
If you notice, the board of doctors here in Canada has Arabic or Muslims names 😂
@@shacooked I know, I also live in Canada! lol
@@shacookedSO TRUE
@@shacookedTrudeau fucked Canada😂
LOL , actually prescriptions in the Arab world are written in Latin letters 😸😸😸😸 So pharmacists won't get confused !!! 😸 BTW , the easiest part of the Arabic language is reading and writing ,only 28 letters and it is -almost - a phonetic language ,, I know you are shocked with this piece of information but imagine this is the easiest part ..Grammar نحو is the hardest even for us native speakers and you cannot speak outside it !
I’m Egyptian, at school they only accept the standard writing form in the exams whilst when teachers are writing on boards or when we do our homework we write in the riqaa “native” writing to speed up the process.
I am Egyptian too and let me tell you there are over a 100 Arabic scripts. Including ones that we no longer use.
I’m also Egyptian, but in the exam or in notebooks they don’t care abt ur handwriting (in my school) except that one question that says “write this sentence one in خط النسخ and again in خط الرقعة”, my handwriting is just a mixture of both
@@rosiline_san5370 I understand you’re probably in middle school, in high school specially last grade (ثانوية عامة) if you write in رقعة your answer wouldn’t be accepted.
@@coolranch-ez4tu Is that so? Thanks for the information, looks like I’ll have to practice my handwriting before high school
Similar thing in Europe, when we write exams usually is accepted only the cursive script, in other cases lowercases letters and capital letters are accepted
The Arabic script has over 15 distinct types of calligraphy styles; however, the primary ones are:
1. Kufi: Known for its angular shapes, often used in decorative art.
2. Naskh: Clear and easy to read, commonly used in books and the Quran.
3. Ruqa’ah: Simple and practical, often used for everyday writing.
4. Thuluth: Elegant and complex, used in titles and artistic pieces.
5. Diwani: Decorative, popular in Ottoman documents.
6. Persian (Nasta’liq): Flowing and delicate, widely used in Iran and Afghanistan.
7. Maghrebi: Unique to North Africa, with rounded forms.
Each person has their unique handwriting style, making no two scripts identical, yet Arabic readers can easily understand each other's writing. Most of these are calligraphy forms not typically used in everyday text; in books and articles, a standard typeface or very similar fonts are preferred for readability.
هذا صحيح لاكن خط الرقعة وليس الرقاقة 👌🏻👌🏻
@SanaaDini حرف العين بالانكليزي a'a
لذا انها فعلا رقعة Ruqa'ah
I’m a native Arabic speaker and I can barely read req3a 😂
@gracenotme671 your in safe my eyes preferred standard script and I can't even understand my own hand writing 😃
@@404deleted_account ااااا صح كلامك معناته الغلط من الترجمة😳😳
that one guy sneezing in the bg 💀
Damn, I was hoping nobody would notice 😂
I'm a South African who learned how to read and write Arabic after reverting to Islam. My handwriting is standard. If I make one mistake when writing a word out of a whole page of Arabic handwriting, I will literally start the whole page from scratch. I also write with specific pencils and pens because that's the only way I can control the steadiness.
Welcome to Islam brother ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ May Allah keep you firm. ❤
@HxhYcj I'm a sister.
Barakallahu feek.
@@Imanuha26 alright sister
@@Imanuha26 wa feeki barakallah
@@Imanuha26 Welcome sister ! May Allah bless you with good fortune.
1:22 bless you
ما أعظم اللغة والثقافة والأدب
العربي. فهو تراكُم تاريخي. وحضاري منذ الأزل
Actually both are correct,
هناك انواع للخطوط العربية ومنها
النسخ والرقعة
The standard one is called الحر which is a simpler form of النسخ
And the native one is الرقعة
Both are correct
And الثلث والكوفي وخطوط الناس العادية والديواني وهو الأكثر تعقيداً وصعوبة في القراءة والكتابة والخط الفارسي والخط الحجازي والذي انقرض لكن الناس تعرفه وهو الذي كان يستخدم قبل الاسلام لكنه بسيط جداً
Native: س left the chat
No, it didn’t leave the chat. It’s just a long line in the middle (فلـــطين for فلسطين).
😂😂😂😂Lol yeah
و النون
Your handwriting look so good👏🏻✨
I can watch this for hours and hours, it's so nice
Beautiful language in both sight and sound
Ok sooo there seems to be a misunderstanding here
In Arabic there are many writing styles. The one on the left (standard) is called Naskh نسخ. The one on the right is called الرقعة (idk how to spell that in English), and yes a lot of people use it, not as neetly tho. My handwriting is closer to the standard style and I'm a native. It's really about which style you learned and got used to more quickly. Those are the two most prominent styles, which is why we were tested on writing in both ways, while other styles are mainly for esthetic purposes (like how the Japanese write Kanji and stuff), for example, the main style used in writing the Quran is neither of those (idk if I remember the name correctly but I think it was the Othmani style الخط العثماني)
So yeah
Kinda confusing for new learners but that's Arabic for ya 😅
But it was kinda incorrect Ruq'a. Too round. In Ruq'a letters should have more angles. Also letters should connect diagonally while his letters connected horizontally and climbed up like a ladder.
@КлинокСтальной You're right. I didn't notice because I was focused on explaining this in the comment.
Try searching for خط الرقعة
It is one of the famous fonts that we use as natives. It is perfect for daily writing
As a Pacific Islander that use to attend Madrasah when I was a kid back 2010 beloe, I use native way of writing. I forgot to speak Arabic now ofcourse but good thing is I can still read but slowly and write Arabic without understanding a word lol. I guess I need to practice my arabic writing, Insha Allah I can use it if I re-learn how to speak Arabic again
The second one is much more beautiful but 0 chance I could read it. It’s like the Nastaliq script used commonly in Pakistan for Urdu (and others), looks gorgeous but much harder to read if you are used to the ‘standard script’.
That's Riqaa (رقعة) not nastaliq
@@xMoezzz they said "it's like"
Native Arabic Writing known as Riqaa style
It is one of several popular Arabic fonts (calligraphy)
In Arabic there are different ways to write each character depending on the calligraphy school, the thing is; only calligraphy experts can sort these ways correctly, while for the natives, we just pick the way we like for each character separately and just use it, so basically an Arabic native hand writing is a mixture of characters that belongs to multiple calligraphy schools where each letter is picked based on nothing but personal taste, which means it doesn't follow any order or rule, thanks God I'm native!
Are both standard and native acceptable? I'm not an Arabic native but learning how to read Arabic, and sometimes I write English words in Arabic. I have never seen the native writing before and wondering if it'd be acceptable to use standard or it has to always be written in the native writing. (sorry if this is worded weirdly)
Yes it is.
Hand writing is more like a personal style.
I know little people that actually write standard, even though it's more beautiful in my opinion, but the only reason is basically speed.
But people would love it if you write standard. And noone would find it weird if that's your concern.
It's not "Standard vs. Native" more like "Printer Font vs. Hand writing Fonts"
Most people, who are not caligraphers, don't bother to spend the the time needed to exactly copy the printer font, and just write the words and letters the way that comes naturally to them after getting used to it through practice over the years.
@catanddodted yes both are acceptable, I'm native and I use both, but the "native" is easier for most people, this is why it is used by natives not because it is better than the standard
Are you Malay?
Hello, a native speaker here! And not all of us strictly write that way.
As kids, we were taught the standard way of writing, so we imitated the examples we had in the textbooks. As we advance each one of us starts to adopt a personal style of writing.
I think the best thing you can do is take the standard as a starter, master it and keep writing using it until your personal style come out.
Good luck!
I am Arabic but your write it's better
than my
Arabic calligraphy has many styles, with some estimates suggesting over 100 types. However, there are 10 main styles from which most others branch out. So it's really different based on what style you're using!
As an Egyptian, my handwriting shouldn’t be compared here, it looks like the ancient hieroglyphs from my ancestors
I think all Egyptian have that specific gene even if writing Arabic lol 😸
My hand writing always changes, especially back in my school days. Each year I come up with new ways to write words LOL
Thank you so much for this - more videos would be greatly appreciated!!
أتوقع أن كل شخص له معياره الخاص فيه😅، حيث أن الخطوط العربية كثيرة وكل خط له طريقة الكتابة الخاصة، معظم الناس من حولي يكتبون بخط الرقعة أو خط النسخ، أو يخلطون بينهم
I'm not even Arab but we learned to write in native way it's smooth and easy to write
An Arab here , that is actually two fonts we learn at primary school , what you called (Standard ) is Naskh نسخ , and what you called (native) is Reqa'a رقعة ..We use both in every day life .
فلسطين حرة 🇵🇸
Free Palestine
For those who'd like to know the name for both types of writers, the stab is called: naskh. And the native one is called: rug'ah. We use the second for simplicity sake.
I used Mitchell's book, Writing Arabic: a practical introduction to Ruq'ah script. It's actually a complete teaching manual. In the introduction Mitchell takes non-native Arabic learners to task for not knowing how to do this. He asks why non-natives are happy to continue to write "like children" imitating naskh script. The book is published by Oxford University Press and is not very expensive. One of the downsides of not knowing this is that you will NOT BE ABLE TO READ anything that an Arab writes with pen and paper. Just like a child who can't read English cursive.
لغتنا مختلفة عن اللغات كل واحد لو أسلوب كتابة ، و هذا ما يميزنا 😊
Native is basically the equivalent of cursive in arabic which is also called رقعه not all people write it but it still can be read like me personally i write standard usually except for س and some other letters, and your hand writing is so accurate to how actual arab people write and its very pretty keep up the good work
as a native speaker i wish my handwriting looked like that but unfortunately it looks different from both ways. my hand writing is absolutely hideous 😭
nothing in arabic called standard and native writing. but they are different fonts existed thousands of years ago , and are still being used .
It is born with you and you can enhance it. There are those who have real beautiful handwritings and there are those who write misunderstood squarish gibberish
In Farsi they taught me how to write a mix of standard and native
I don’t think most people take the time to fill in the loops of meem, fa, and waw, I think they just make the loop small. The whole point of ruq’ah is that it’s faster
As for me a Malaysian that use Jawi script (essentially the Arabic letters but including 5 other hurufs) for writing Malay, I am neither on the standard and native part. Due to my exposure to Thuluth with a dash of Nasakh script learning, my writing now is almost jumjum'atun and mind-blowing plethora of artsy rosy writing of Arabic script of course.
Nastaʿlīq, which is the official Persian and Urdu script, is actually more similar to native arabic writing than the standard one.
Im no native but the left is my handwriting of my name on the book cover and the right is my handwriting in the book. You gotta chase the teachers pace before she erases everything on the whiteboard. Theres no time thinking about triple dots. Btw im no arabic ok but i rarely use the snail like ه in the middle of a word as in 3:23.. mine looks like 8. The left is standard??
this is called the RIQ'A script
it is a very common script due to it's smplicity being the fastest arabic script to write with
really fascinating compared with my native english. it is so different! i love written language!
Great video! I sooo wish there had been a ك in the middle of a word.
There is tho. مكان
Wait you mean in the video? Sorry
basically yeah, but I don't know about the repeatedly going over the circles as that's not fast, personally i just do one single loop and sometimes it looks like a full dot other times it's a hollow circle. and the " 'ain" typically has a "hook" on the left corner to differentiate between it and "meem".
I always wonder how my Ottoman ancestors was writing with the "rika" handwriting. It's so different but quite aesthetic.
The difference between the two is like the difference between standard English handwriting and cursive handwriting, I feel. My ruqa’a (native) Arabic handwriting feels very much like my English handwriting, which is cursive. They’re both correct and both common. You can use either one as long as your handwriting is legible.
خطي ما يشبه حتى وحدة من الزوز خاطر أنا معنديش تنسيق حركي 😭 أحيانا حتى أنا ما نفهمش شنوة نكتب بصراحة 😆
The differece is that the standard is written in Nskh script and Native is in Ruq'a script.
It maybe surprising for non-arabic speakers that before Islam, Arab did not use dots that differentiate similar letters, because simply they did not need the dots 😄
question for anyone who knows: do you need to hold you pen differently to write rtl? do all pens work?
I'm not there (yet, hopefully someday), but i've tried squiggling a few arabic letters, and i feel like i'm stabbing the paper. When writing latin letters you don't move a lot to the left, so the pen leans back and to the right (between 4 and 5 in the clock). I'm guessing I have to adjust the angle to write in an arabic script.
another question: do brush pens like the ones used in chinese or japanese make any sense in arabic? i still haven't gone the calligraphy rabbit hole (but it's waiting for me)
I do something in the middle between them both, while I write the two dots as joint like in the native version, I still write the س in the standard form, but the three dots of the ث I write them as two joint dots and one on top of them... I usually try to imitate the digital version, so my Arabic handwriting is now a combination of both... I focus on the letter's shape but don't slow the handwriting....
I believe the Standard version is known as “Khat Al Naskh” or “Khattun-Naskh,” meaning the Naskh script, and the Native version is known as “Khat Al Ruq’ah” or “Khatur-Ruq’ah,” meaning the Ruq’ah script. There is at least one book that teaches to write in these scripts. I will include that book’s name later today God-willing!
1:33 الحرية لفلسطين 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Νόμιζα ότι ήξερα να γράφω αραβικά, αποδειχτηκα λανθασμένος. Πάντως το δεύτερο όντως φαίνεται σαν Πόλυ πιο εύκολο και γρήγορο σύστημα γραφής
Aκριβώς αυτός είναι ο σκοπός, να γράφεις πιο γρήγορα. Είναι μια απλοποιημένη μέθοδος γραφής, αλλά παραμένει εύκολα κατανοητή (αν και μπορεί να διαφέρει πολύ από άτομο σε άτομο).
Not wrong, so don't feel weird, both are appreciated.
The native one kinda looks like Urdu
As a Pakistani I agree, I try to write in standard Arabic (I am learning Arabic) but always end up with something similar to the native, also we leave gaps inside some harf (letter) that native Arabs don’t
It's ruqaa (or riqaa ) script. One of the many, many arabic scripts. I guess it became the main one used for urdu, while arabic mainly uses "naskh" for handwriting nowadays, especially for beginners
Urdu uses a Persian script called nasta'liq. In this script not only do the letters change shape based on where they are in the word, the entire word changes shape based on which letters are added to it. It's very beautiful though
@DrRiq Arabs call the farisi script (Persian script) It's sometimes used for Arabic calligraphy as well
i write more like standard but instead of ة for example with the 2 dots i make it a line. The thing is i have a kinda hard time reading native and my teacher writes in native 😭
My handwriting is a mix between the two but it’s closer to standard, the most significant difference is the dots in the standard I can’t stand it
As an arab morrocan, i approve
To me, a European, the first word looks like the rabdom string of letters "äbzo"
Why am i just finding out there's a native handwriting to my own language that no one addressed b4 😭😭😭
The native one looks incomplete
And to which country is it "native"?
Native is like cursive, standard is block
Every arabic country
@@Hanaa1a1
So all arabic speakers from Morocco to Iraq write in the same "native" script ?
@@PhonologyNerd
Still, the native version looks like some letters are missing
I'm not an arabic speaker so it's quite comfounding to me
@@varoonnone7159 yes , the first one you can see it only in comupters , TV and something like that , but when we want write something by hands we always use the second one cuz it's eazy
هذا مو خط الرقعة ولا انا انجنيت؟
beautiful penmanship btw
In algeria we mostly use the standard, then each changes and personalize it. I personally never seen anyone uses the "native" one, not sure about ppl from the middle east never had the chance to meet on let alone seeing their hand writing.
I try write like that and I'm pretty sure I'm native (Idk, in my house we grew up speaking 3 languages interchangeably, including 2 dialects of arabic), but it's way too hard for me cos I'm dysgraphic. Honestly tho, writing in square kuffic is so easy, but of course it isn't really appropriate to write everything in square kuffic all the time, so I write in standard.
I'm a native speaker but I write like the one on the left 😅
I guess I'm not native enough
Cantik betul yg native.
Great
The س just disappears??
Welcome to arabic
الخط الاول يسمى (النسخ)
الخط الثاني يسمى (الرقعة)
ليس سوى اختلاف في الخطوط
مع ذلك خطك جيد
Font number 1 his name is (النسخ) )(Cop)
Font number 2 his name is (الرقعة) l don’t know how it’s called in English
And your font is nice
Im a native speaker and I don't write like that. That style is more common in Egypt.
Edit: Im from Tunisia and since we rarely handwrite you'll find big differences in handwritings but that's the beauty of it, you can reconize easily the handwriting of someone you know.
Great video, however it would have been helpful to leave an extra 2-3 seconds after each native example, some of them changed so fast afterwards it was hard to pause it for comparison and to be able to learn anything...
انه خط الرقعة❤❤
this is kind of fonts not native or standard, it's my first time i hear about this native standard thing
I write somewhat in the middle of both lol 😭
the native's font is riq'ah. it's a type of 7 types arabic writing
Arabic isn’t my first language cuz I’m iranian. However, Iranians kinda have the same alphabet as Arabs. It’s just that we have 4 letters more than them (the letters being: گچپژ)
I'm guessing the first three letters make a G, Zh/Jh, and P sounds, but what sound does that last one make?
@@momo-cchi5978 چ = CH گ = G پ = P ژ = ZH/JH
Also there’s a Persian word “گچ” which uses 2 of the extra letters and means “Chalk”
@@momo-cchi5978 it's like 'sure' in the word 'measure'
thanks, none of these look similar/logical
Nice 👍
This is called *ruq‘a* رقعة and it * _is_* taught in the Arab world _from Egypt_ eastwards as the daily script.
Maghreb has a different standard.
There is nothing in arabic such as standard & native writing.
These are fonts , tow of several other fonts , you have them in English too , and in most languages .
Plus the one you call "native" looks like that because we write fast , less concerned about how it looks.
Actually it’s more like primary school student ( standard) and adult (native) writing
haven't you ever heard of anything called hâ't
(الخطوط العربية )
In Tunisia all the handwriting is standard
Umm they look totally different. Standard at least seems like there are letters, but with second one most people would think it's just draft. Like checking if your pen writes or not 😂
For "native" it is basically changing some things so we can write it faster
Well, The "native" version is soooo readable for non-native learners. Just wait until you see how most Egyptians actually write by hand-it's a nightmare for Wafedeen.
My watching as a native arabic speaker:
But okay
The "native" writing style isnt how all natives actually write
Instead we usually use the "standard" writing style for its ease of reading and reserve the "native" one for other things , such as whne you wanna get all fancy and shit
Though I've met alot of people who only write in "native"
Which i hate Because i can barely read it lmao
im saudi one and in my opinion i think you’re writing with Patch and thats not how native arabs write usually, we kinda do mix fonts
speedwriting of a speedwriting
1:16 & 1:57 : *no.* the final قاف needs a loop. you just wrote تسوين and بطرين
2:15 : these are written faster, no need for the loopy insistence on ميم and عين
3:23 & 3:42 your initial حا is too slim and elongated, it's almost a half circle in ruq’a
1:01 & 1:24 3:37 the dents of your سين are too big. Read the difference: تسويق / تىىىوين or *فلسطين / فلىىىطين* .
In _*all Arabic fonts_ those are distinguished (except the shittу naskh early computers used).
I practice standard for hours for THIS? I give up 😂 😫
Not one person I know writes like that not even me 😭 the only people that write in Hafsa are my Arabic teachers in school and my dad who writes in a messy form of it like doctor writing. It’s kind of like English cursive you’re forced to learn it but never use it.
There is no standard and native these are just different fonts that we write on paper in Ruq'ah font because it is faster and easier only
The native one is similar to the رقعة script
We don’t write like this
We don’t obliterated the ف ق ه ة ع غ
We wrote it with a opening in the middle
+ not all of us write in the same way
These are just different fonts
As an arab %99 of people i know writes like the native