did you know pvz2 mod called reflourished? it has more challenge, and of course, more plants to unlock, it has many new zombies and new content await too!
So you think both witch hazel and caulipower are overrated but not electric blueberry. Do you think electric blueberry is better than both plants? And why?
As a Pyre vine fan (in the days I used to play PvZ2, which I just left now) I found the plant very helpful, if not reliable in endless Frostbite caves mode, BUT because of several things: I grinded for it in the arena to level it up at least to level 3, making it stronger and with longer fire reach. I of course used lots of other plants, like Homing Thistle (am I saying the name right?), catapult plants etc. planted in it. That wasn't over tho, cause I also used a wall structure from Pumpkin and Pokra, both also level 3 or so. This teamwork system with pyre vine preventing freeze and Pokra dealing with further zombie threats, while plants at level 3, now that was above average combo for that Frostbite cave mode I was talking about earlier. Pyre vine alone may not be that helpful, it just needs right combinations so the plants can buff each other, if you will. Like Alex said in Madagascar 3: "I have good left leg, but without the right one, I can't walk."
In deffense of Sun Shroom, you can plant way more due to their cheaper cost, ofc in a 1to1 other sun producers will tend to make more instantly, but over time you can plant a lot (they don't have long recharge) and start exploding with the amount of sun they produce as at some point they start giving 3x the sun of their cost unlike any other producer. They are a really cost-efficient sun producer in plan your defense levels too, they are THE most cost-efficient sun producer in fact, and it doesn't hurt nearly as much when one gets eaten as they only costed you 25 sun, and finally, with the strategy of people placing sun producers in front and attacking plants in back, it favors cheap sun producers like Sun Shroom more if zombies do reach and treaten them, and if they do, you mostlikely have a ton of them in other rows anyways. So i am definitely of the opinion that Sun Shroom is better than Primal Sunflower, and is best non seedium sun producer. See if pvz2 was more cramped and favored spaces higher, that could be a reason not to favor them (as that is their biggest downside), but levels, vines, and tiles counteract that potential weakness, and there's plenty of room to work with. As for synergies, a good Primal Sunflower synergy is Gold Bloom to let you plant a lot of them early, but on the other hand Sun Shroom has amazing synergy with Enlighten-Mint to instantly grow them and produce a lot of sun, not to mention Sun Shroom is an ideal target for Shine Vine due to their cheap cost while being Enligten-mint family tagged for higher sun production on Shine Vine.
You are completly right, even tho there are like 5 ppl with enlightment out there, (i am one of them) being able to place a ton of plants early before zombies start spawning and than placing the enlightment mint can give you like 1000 to 3000 suns
I don't think Cauplipower and Witch hazel are overrated. For low level, they can be call weak, but when you upgrade then. you will see why people consider them as strong plant, Witch hazel's strongest ability is to kill the zombie immediately, and cause hugh damage, I mean, 1200 damage at lv1, 1800 damage at lv10, and higher damage at higher Mastery, Also, if u know how to combine Witch hazel with the other plants, I don't think she is overrated. Same for Caulipower too
Honestly some of your takes are just bad. Cauli is very overtuned, and is literally only countered by the two zombies you showed. This plant is nowhere near overrated, and I think you are underselling it way too much. I mean this plant literally broke battlez for a time and breaks battlez on every enchant mint season. Also there are a lot of levels that are just free with caulipower as your only attacker. Seeing you call a busted plant overrated just makes me cringe. People say its op in vanilla pvz2 for a reason
@@billythemillipede6102 Heaker is his weakness, but for Penny's pursuit, we have many ways to deal with Healer and they are not even too many to handle
@@samuelkriz2761please make an argument. Just saying your comment is bad without anything to back it up is bad. They gave good arguments for why caulipower in particular is a good plant.
Sun shroom might be worse individual than sunflower but you can have 2 sunshrooms for the price of 1 sunflower which already made the sunflowers inferior by the 2nd sun shroom growth stage
I don't think pyro vine is overrated, of course he's support plant because he's a vine. That vine ability itself is a good deal because you can save more tile, warming plant & a little protection to your main plant, 125 sun is reasonable sun cost. If you level it up his range became longer with non-stop firing better than jack-o-lantern
I disagree with Sunflower being better even in the short term. The only time I think so is when it's one flag only and even so you cannot stall the zombie on first waves. Primal is better without a doubt. But I sincerely disagree with sunshroom being worse in anything that is a 2 or 3 flag level
Tbh, I don’t think most of these plants are even SUPPOSED to be used as a main attacker. So that’s probably an explanation towards how weak or vulnerable they are.
People overate plants like imp pear, tile turnip, bowling bulb, lightning reed, fire pea and threepeater as hardcore arena players because of their leveling whenever they either hack it or spend a lot of money on the game, although I still find imp pear as an amazing early game plant
i think noctarine is a little over rated because you need to bring shadow plants to make him work and other than dusk lobber theyre premıum like shadow peas shooter and dragon bruit
you seriously think sun cost determine how good a plant is? I'm sure you also think primal potato mine and cherry bomb are worse than regular potato mine. My problem with sun shroom is it takes like a million years to grow and I don't want to wait
in my opinion the most overated plant is pokra that is so op but too overused and mostly overated because she is not the best damadge dealer when theres boombox zombie and its just a expensive and when theres healer zombie it will not do anything becasue pokra can do everything with slownes
@@DuckyTube13for example I’ll make a level in the level editor and you have to pick what zombie came first or last Like pharaoh zombie, or digger zombie And like the teams example Peashooter, walnut,cabbage pult,and potato mine vs snow pea, akee,nightshade,and disk boom etc
OMG I COMPLETLY AGREE ABOUT THE FIRE PEASHOOTER THAT GUY SUCKS, YOU LITERALY GET THE TORCHWOOD FOR FREE ALSO DON'T TOUCH MY BOY INFERO, YES HE'S NOT THE BEST ALONE BUT IN A TEAM LIKE WITH SHADOW PEA OR ELECTRIC PEA THAT BY ITSELF CANT KILL THE ZOMBIES ITS VERY OP, ESPECIALLY IN STUFF LIKE DARK AGES
Hi im minh ngoc hoang and I requested how about you can make a chinese poll when end of year I also requested about do the strong plant was good but no many user
Sun shroom is truly overrated Lighting reed is hated by litteraly everyone so I don't think he can be counted as overrated. Nobody ever talk about Firepea, Jack O lantern, Infern and Pyre Vine so I don't think they are counted as overrated. Missile Toe just suck. But in the chinese version she's one of the most op plants. Witch Hazel sucks too Caulipower is mid. Meteor Flower is mid too (but that doesn't change that it's my favorite plant) Dartichoke has always been underrated, nobody use it, Dartichoke is forgotten. I don't understand why it's in this video. Imppear is op in arena, but else he's kinda mid.
You didnt talk about inferno, i think that its pretty good in a team with something that can take out all the normal zombies, browncoats etc while inferno can take care of bucket heads and other stuff, he does have a very slow cd tho
Dude fire peas point is to not need fucking need torchwood if your gonna use him with torch wood your just wasting its potential not to mention its much cheaper to get 2 columnes of fire peas instead of 1 columne reapeater and torchwood
Sun-shroom is best used in endless mode where levels are longer
@@mostafahassan40 fast recharge, betterer.
@@mostafahassan40 NIGHT LEVELS EXIST!
Plus you can just spam 3-8 sun shrooms and use 1 enlighten mint and boom all to full size
Tbh sun shroom works effectively with enlightenmint
I was about to say that xd
@@gabsum1313 literally a 25 sun primal sunflower
Mint doesn't count it's only the plant. @@xgczero
Boosted also works
What if pvz2 plants have dual mints families?
What if pvz2 premium plants were unlocked in the worlds inside adventure mode?
The game would be more fun and easier and adventure would be more satisfying and dual mints would make every mint better and more usable
did you know pvz2 mod called reflourished? it has more challenge, and of course, more plants to unlock, it has many new zombies and new content await too!
So you think both witch hazel and caulipower are overrated but not electric blueberry. Do you think electric blueberry is better than both plants? And why?
As a Pyre vine fan (in the days I used to play PvZ2, which I just left now) I found the plant very helpful, if not reliable in endless Frostbite caves mode, BUT because of several things:
I grinded for it in the arena to level it up at least to level 3, making it stronger and with longer fire reach.
I of course used lots of other plants, like Homing Thistle (am I saying the name right?), catapult plants etc. planted in it.
That wasn't over tho, cause I also used a wall structure from Pumpkin and Pokra, both also level 3 or so.
This teamwork system with pyre vine preventing freeze and Pokra dealing with further zombie threats, while plants at level 3, now that was above average combo for that Frostbite cave mode I was talking about earlier.
Pyre vine alone may not be that helpful, it just needs right combinations so the plants can buff each other, if you will. Like Alex said in Madagascar 3: "I have good left leg, but without the right one, I can't walk."
In deffense of Sun Shroom, you can plant way more due to their cheaper cost, ofc in a 1to1 other sun producers will tend to make more instantly, but over time you can plant a lot (they don't have long recharge) and start exploding with the amount of sun they produce as at some point they start giving 3x the sun of their cost unlike any other producer.
They are a really cost-efficient sun producer in plan your defense levels too, they are THE most cost-efficient sun producer in fact, and it doesn't hurt nearly as much when one gets eaten as they only costed you 25 sun, and finally, with the strategy of people placing sun producers in front and attacking plants in back, it favors cheap sun producers like Sun Shroom more if zombies do reach and treaten them, and if they do, you mostlikely have a ton of them in other rows anyways.
So i am definitely of the opinion that Sun Shroom is better than Primal Sunflower, and is best non seedium sun producer.
See if pvz2 was more cramped and favored spaces higher, that could be a reason not to favor them (as that is their biggest downside), but levels, vines, and tiles counteract that potential weakness, and there's plenty of room to work with.
As for synergies, a good Primal Sunflower synergy is Gold Bloom to let you plant a lot of them early, but on the other hand Sun Shroom has amazing synergy with Enlighten-Mint to instantly grow them and produce a lot of sun, not to mention Sun Shroom is an ideal target for Shine Vine due to their cheap cost while being Enligten-mint family tagged for higher sun production on Shine Vine.
You are completly right, even tho there are like 5 ppl with enlightment out there, (i am one of them) being able to place a ton of plants early before zombies start spawning and than placing the enlightment mint can give you like 1000 to 3000 suns
@@gabsum1313 not anymore, atm anyone can buy any mint for 100 mints from the almanac including Enlighten-mint, and that change looks like its staying.
I don't think Cauplipower and Witch hazel are overrated. For low level, they can be call weak, but when you upgrade then. you will see why people consider them as strong plant, Witch hazel's strongest ability is to kill the zombie immediately, and cause hugh damage, I mean, 1200 damage at lv1, 1800 damage at lv10, and higher damage at higher Mastery, Also, if u know how to combine Witch hazel with the other plants, I don't think she is overrated. Same for Caulipower too
Honestly some of your takes are just bad.
Cauli is very overtuned, and is literally only countered by the two zombies you showed. This plant is nowhere near overrated, and I think you are underselling it way too much. I mean this plant literally broke battlez for a time and breaks battlez on every enchant mint season. Also there are a lot of levels that are just free with caulipower as your only attacker. Seeing you call a busted plant overrated just makes me cringe. People say its op in vanilla pvz2 for a reason
I guess that they're judging Caulipower for its performance in Penny's Pursuit because most of the campaigns spam healer zombies.
@@billythemillipede6102Healer isn’t even spammed that much in penny’s pursuit compared to battlez and it is not like they are hard to deal with anyway
@@billythemillipede6102 Heaker is his weakness, but for Penny's pursuit, we have many ways to deal with Healer and they are not even too many to handle
no honestly your comment is bad
@@samuelkriz2761please make an argument. Just saying your comment is bad without anything to back it up is bad. They gave good arguments for why caulipower in particular is a good plant.
Sun shroom might be worse individual than sunflower but you can have 2 sunshrooms for the price of 1 sunflower which already made the sunflowers inferior by the 2nd sun shroom growth stage
Fire peashooter is overrated…. Until she reaches level 4
Why
@@zacharyjohnson8643 she can two-shot a regular zombie
Okay
@@Aidenriches2008FIRE PEASHOOTER IS A GIRL!?
@@amielalisuag8679 yep! It’s in her bio in pvz2
I mean.....they're overated cause they're actually good
L reed is mid
I don't think pyro vine is overrated, of course he's support plant because he's a vine. That vine ability itself is a good deal because you can save more tile, warming plant & a little protection to your main plant, 125 sun is reasonable sun cost. If you level it up his range became longer with non-stop firing better than jack-o-lantern
I think pyre vine is amazing
Imp pear can transform anything that is not a boss
I disagree with Sunflower being better even in the short term. The only time I think so is when it's one flag only and even so you cannot stall the zombie on first waves.
Primal is better without a doubt. But I sincerely disagree with sunshroom being worse in anything that is a 2 or 3 flag level
Tbh, I don’t think most of these plants are even SUPPOSED to be used as a main attacker. So that’s probably an explanation towards how weak or vulnerable they are.
What about the max level of all the overrated plants will it change?
1:39 yeah but not every level is that short, there are still a lot long levels that nake sun shroom really good
People overate plants like imp pear, tile turnip, bowling bulb, lightning reed, fire pea and threepeater as hardcore arena players because of their leveling whenever they either hack it or spend a lot of money on the game, although I still find imp pear as an amazing early game plant
Caulipower is the cooler electric blueberry.
why would anyone buy elec blueberry if caulipower exists
i think noctarine is a little over rated because you need to bring shadow plants to make him work and other than dusk lobber theyre premıum like shadow peas shooter and dragon bruit
Well Imp perl will be quite op in PvZ 1 since it basic an instand use Puffrom that can do more than stall...
sun-shroom's low sun cost is what makes it the best world sun producer, you shouldve placed 3 sun shrooms to compare it to primal sun flower
you seriously think sun cost determine how good a plant is? I'm sure you also think primal potato mine and cherry bomb are worse than regular potato mine.
My problem with sun shroom is it takes like a million years to grow and I don't want to wait
@@IWishYouTheBest when did i said i think any of that 😭???
Imp pear is my 1st priority plant to get
The music kinda vibing can you tell me the name of it please 🙏
in my opinion the most overated plant is pokra that is so op but too overused and mostly overated because she is not the best damadge dealer when theres boombox zombie and its just a expensive and when theres healer zombie it will not do anything becasue pokra can do everything with slownes
I think you should have placed wasabi instead of jack o lantern
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Ducky I want to make a pvz Chinese tournament 4v4
So can you help me tell the teams and zombies?
Could you please explain more? I am lost
@@DuckyTube13for example
I’ll make a level in the level editor and you have to pick what zombie came first or last
Like pharaoh zombie, or digger zombie
And like the teams example
Peashooter, walnut,cabbage pult,and potato mine vs snow pea, akee,nightshade,and disk boom etc
@@Icemanthesubzerosoldier a.k.e.e, winter-melon, laser bean, cactus vs exvacator, hunter zombie, camel zombie & balloon zombie
@@DuckyTube13 k the zombies are good
The plants of the 4v4
I agree with imp pear, most dont even eat plants
All of them are strong i agree with sun shroom
Primal sunflower is a better sun shroom in every way
@@IWishYouTheBest i always use primal sunflower mine is lvl 5 or 6
Sun shroom is better than sunflower when it comes to levels with 2-4 flag where you get 7-10 full grown sun shrooms
Why it has sound in pvz1
Why sun shroom?,just plant him inthe back
OMG I COMPLETLY AGREE ABOUT THE FIRE PEASHOOTER THAT GUY SUCKS, YOU LITERALY GET THE TORCHWOOD FOR FREE
ALSO DON'T TOUCH MY BOY INFERO, YES HE'S NOT THE BEST ALONE BUT IN A TEAM LIKE WITH SHADOW PEA OR ELECTRIC PEA THAT BY ITSELF CANT KILL THE ZOMBIES ITS VERY OP, ESPECIALLY IN STUFF LIKE DARK AGES
In fire pea's defense she has an chance for an napalm pea and a great plantfood
Fire pea's girl
How many times do we need to repeat? FIRE PEA IS GIRL.
@@QueenTwivineSparkle7805 its a plant, i do not care
i didn‘t know meteor flower scared away dinos with it‘s of
Hi im minh ngoc hoang and I requested how about you can make a chinese poll when end of year
I also requested about do the strong plant was good but no many user
nightcap,because she is obviously powerful!!!!!
Nearly all of these underrated plants are fairly rated
Next is overhated?
Vamporcini.
YESSS FINALLYYYYYY LETS GOOOOO
Sun shroom is truly overrated
Lighting reed is hated by litteraly everyone so I don't think he can be counted as overrated.
Nobody ever talk about Firepea, Jack O lantern, Infern and Pyre Vine so I don't think they are counted as overrated.
Missile Toe just suck. But in the chinese version she's one of the most op plants.
Witch Hazel sucks too
Caulipower is mid.
Meteor Flower is mid too (but that doesn't change that it's my favorite plant)
Dartichoke has always been underrated, nobody use it, Dartichoke is forgotten. I don't understand why it's in this video.
Imppear is op in arena, but else he's kinda mid.
No he doesn't.
You didnt talk about inferno, i think that its pretty good in a team with something that can take out all the normal zombies, browncoats etc while inferno can take care of bucket heads and other stuff, he does have a very slow cd tho
@@gabsum1313 i said that nobody ever talk about Fire pea, Jack, Inferno and Pyre Vine
@@MrZombiepvz yet fire pea is the most bought gem plant
yap yap yap, do you even think while typing
Dude fire peas point is to not need fucking need torchwood if your gonna use him with torch wood your just wasting its potential not to mention its much cheaper to get 2 columnes of fire peas instead of 1 columne reapeater and torchwood
Yeah and the plant food is so good too.
funny enough most of the overrated plants you rated is the ones i think that sucks
Inferno is good with a team, sun shroom is the best sun production if you have enlighten mint, fire peashooter in the other hand, just. Sucks.
Thats the point of being “overrated”
@@DuckyTube13boi the ain't, most you picked that are overrated are good!
They’re not, trust me bro
@@gabsum1313 tbh fire pea has highest single pea damage
It works similiar to dartichoke crit
now i will use primal instead
awesome
He? Well most Sun producers are female though
shroom is male
imp pear is op