People forget that Timothy wasn’t alone when he died. His poor girlfriend Amy was also killed and actually stuck around to try to save him. Damn that’s depressing.
As a former evangelical child, "for the flesh" is indeed a euphemism for "don't be a slut". For Dear Zachary, I went out and bought the book that David Babgy wrote ("Dance With the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss") and it is even more heartbreaking to read this father talk about the painful things that happened.
"the flesh" is a reference to works of humanity outside of the spirit, there is nothing sexual in nature about the euphemism unless whoever taught you was themselves uneducated. see Galatians 3.
@@raythepizza “the flesh” is clearly most commonly used by evangelicals and the likes of them as an euphemism for sexual desires. Specially in the context the original commenter was talking about. You’re being intellectually dishonest.
I just learned at a very young age, 4, that people don't know what they are talking about 75% of the time so don't just believe gullible people unless you want your head filled with mistruths. So, I don't believe in the whole Bible thing despite going to Bible school starting at 4, I gotta say I really doged a bullet on that one because what I recently discovered about the origins of how these different versions of Bible's were crafted shows just how fake they are known to be. And during their creation of these Bible's based off of scriptures that were written around 2000 years before they made these Bible's custom to their separate beliefs because they removed, edited words written in the original scriptures in which there were as many as 80 to 100 which contradicted eachother, written over 1000 years, they destroyed all of the original scriptures to hide their evidence of fakery. It's only because of people finding out what they were doing that some of the original separate scriptures were saved by hiding them in places, like for example the dead see scrolls found. But most of the original scriptures have been completely destroyed though because some original scriptures were hidden they still exist today and in large completely contradict any of the modern Bible's for each main religion in which no Bible was crafted without editing the original words because of things they didn't approve of that it said, no Bible's included all of the scriptures that were found and mosty destroyed, infact the Christian religion used the least amount of original scriptures as any other version, only using 56 scriptures out of 80 to 100. We don't even know how many existed because of their fine and intentional deception. We don't even know what the original words were because they destroyed the evidence. Thus, you are most certainly not following the words of God with any Bible even if the original scriptures were actually inspired by God which itself isn't likely, the likely answer is they were using hallucinogens that they learned about from tribes who claimed they allowed you to communicate with the 'spirits'.
@@arthurgabriel7715 i am not defending evangelicals, im defending the bible. if evangelicals misinterpret scripture then they're wrong. but scripture is what i am talking about.
the point of the documentary is that these are animals, not humans, and they’re not your friends and don’t belong to anyone. they’re ferocious beasts who should be left alone for not only our best interest but also the bears
You NEED to watch The Look of Silence. It's the sequel to The Act of Killing. A family member of a victim interviews the killers and lets them speak in joy, and then at the end of each one who confronts them and tells them who he is. You see the fear in the killers faces.
As someone with PTSD, I really can't process why people put themselves through that (making the documentary). I guess if it helps them get closure good on them, but it really sounds like self-harm to me. Absolutely insane.
I don’t buy the remorse from these guys. They asked for the doc to be done in a variety of styles, like a Hollywood musical or gangster film-they were playing it up.
Act of killing is like going to a society where the Nazi's won and then interviewing SS soldiers who have been celebrated as hero's for 50 years. It really hammers home the history is written by the winners point.
Uh, no. It's in different context. Not every massacre need to be equivalent of Nazi purge of Jews. That should not be done since it's oversimplifying and may produce misconception of history. Please understand that. What Anwar Congo and his colleagues did is still terrible, that should not be denied.
I'm so sorry but the first thing I thought of was Wolfenstein, as some of the later Wolfenstein games do take place in a world where the axis powers won ww2.
@@dinobravo1998 its not disturbing or heartbreaking. Its cringe how hard the director is trying to be disturbing. If that movie shakes you up that much might wanna avoid watching litterally anything "disturbing"
@@Connorly800 u should use that at work when u get stressed out lol (working retail sucks, but the big fast food are waaaay worse.) I wouldn't mind working at one run by morons like Burger King or Rally's/Checkers lol (not knocking Checkers, I love me some Checkers, but they hire the least intelligent, laziest people I've ever seen....BK is same nowadays)
*SPOILER ALERT* "Dear Zachary" devastates every audiences of all ages. I looked through the comments of the documentary and some of them were from Gen Zs. Since Zachary was born in 2002, they wanted to know what happened to him. They wanted to check out his social media, see what he was up to, until they watched the ending. They were heartbroken. Reading their comments, it almost sounded like they mourned for their potential best friend. As for me, I rarely cry watching documentaries, but oh...oh God, his poor grandparents 😢💔
EXACTLY. I was born in the same exact year as Zachary, and I just couldn't wait to finish watching the documentary so that I could look up how Zachary's life is, with all the loving people surrounding him, and how he reacted to watching Kurt's tribute to his father. Then the bomb hit, and along with it disbelief, anger, hate, sadness and, finally, hope.
I was born around the same time he was and I was looking forward to knowing how he is now after finishing the documentary and it all just ended in heartbreaking sobbing....
That's very similar to how I feel about Connor Peterson, the unborn son of Laci Peterson. Laci lived in my hometown, and I presume she would've raised Connor there. If he had been born alive, he would've been just a little older than me, and with our moms both being teachers, I'm sure we would've been at least friendly. With situations like Zachary's, Connor's, and so many others, I think it's impossible for those of us in the same age range to not think about what could have (and SHOULD HAVE) been.
I just finished watching Dear Zachary, and then watched the update from the filmmaker here on TH-cam. As a stepmom who has had to calm her stepkids down, take them in because their mom “went crazy” and cried when they chose to go back, I can say this is our ultimate fear. And listening to the killer deliberately try to gaslight them with memories of their dead son as well as trying to bait them about Zachary hit a nerve. Some women should not be moms.
Dear Zachary will stay with me the rest of my life probably. There’s a scene during one of the parents interviews where the dad just goes off and it shook me to my core. The anguish and anger that rolls off of him was so palpable. I remember having to pause it and decide if I had it in me to continue watching.
The scene in grizzly man where the director listens to the tape, takes off the head phones and just says, don't listen to that. Idk it always gave me chills
There are fake videos on TH-cam saying it's the audio. I only found out after I listened that it was fake. I was still traumatised. You can read a transcript of the tape online. But the tape is destroyed I think.
ya werner herzog listened to it, then said dont listen to this. just destroy it. and he is probably just trying to save people the pain. powerful moment.
From the minute I finished the movie I always wondered what the tapes sound like. You're right about having the fake ones online. I watched am interview with Wverner and he said it was destroyed. It must have been super grizzly (ba-doom-tisss). The transcripts are correct though. I probably would have destroyed it too given that you could here the old bear literally eating them alive and he even screamed it was happening. Sheesh..😳
Everybody’s talking about Dear Zachary, which is definitely a heartbreaking watch, but man, I watched The Act of Killing (and it’s companion The Look of Silence) back in 2015 and those have kinda lived in the back of my mind ever since, as far as ‘disturbing’ goes. It’s just so wild to me how the human mind can rationalize heinous acts and paint over them to the point they believe they were righteous ones. I mean, there’s an argument to be made that that happens pretty much all the time during war, but to see it so blatantly on screen was something else. The most disturbing documentary (or docuseries) I’ve seen is The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez. I knew the story beforehand because I watch too much true crime content, but even then, I had to take a lot of breaks just to get through it.
Right? What the hell is it with Dear Zachary? I get the gut-wrenching sadness of it, but FUCK The Act Of Killing destroyed me. Like, you feel hollow knowing how easily those could be your countrymen, how easily all that pain and torture can be covered up. Living in a country where the leader has close ties with the military dictators of '64, the documentary leaves me feeling hopeless and afraid.
I would argue the vast majority of people see themselves as their own story’s hero. Not many people think they are truly the “bad guy”. I think anti-hero media are fairly good at showing that the road to evil is paved in good intentions, whether those intentions are truly “good”. A famous one is Breaking Bad, Walter starts his illegal life to help pay for his treatment and wants to take care of his family in case he passes. It’s good intentions, but because of the road he travels down, it ends with doing some heinous shit. Just interesting to think about.
I still can’t bring myself to watch the story of Angel baby Gabriel Fernandez. Learning about his suffering and his fate in the papers was enough to make me pissed off, sick to my core and sad for the loved ones he left behind.
I watched Dear Zachary by accident when it was on Netflix and got hooked because I wanted to know what happened to Andrew’s killer but DID NOT expect the plot twist. I couldn’t stop sobbing for the family.
@@nadiabenjaminpua4616 I cried basically the whole way thru that documentary. Everytime I thought I was able to suck it up and put up a strong front, something absolutely gut wrenching would be told/shown and I would break down again.
I saw a post on FB about it & just knew it was a doc for a son about his dead father & that it turned into something else. Boy, did it fuck me up afterward.
Dear Zachary is one of the only documentaries that had me crying 95% of the time. That story breaks my heart and a bit of my soul died the day I saw it.
The Act of Killing has imo the best ending of any film and portrays a raw and visceral depiction of remorse so powerful that it is even understood by those who don't feel it themselves.
@@emilyau8023 I was prepared to call GG a bitch because I just watched it and Ummmmmmmmm....... I’m bawling my eyes out. I would hate to ruin it for you and I’m glad GG didn’t spoil it but I’m broken!!!! That was one of the saddest documentaries I’ve seen.
The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez is easily the most upsetting documentary I've ever seen. I still have not finished it despite knowing most facts about the case.
I ended up following your advice regarding Dear Zachary and it was just so intense. I cried so many times during that documentary, and the "twist"? It literally made me cry angry tears, I don't think I have ever had that happen before. I was so mad and upset. This is such a powerful documentary and I genuinely appreciate following your advice.
The entire documentary had me balling my eyes out but the end really did it for me. It gave me a little bit of hope that there can still be love after such a tragedy, which just made me cry even more. Kurt and Andrew’s parents truly deserve all the love in the world.
I watched Dear Zachary about ten years ago with my best friend and her boyfriend at the time. We had all gone to school together and my bff’s boyfriend was a very strong, burly, quiet “manly man” kind of guy. We all SOBBED during this doc. Like shaking breath, ugly noises crying. It’s a deeply upsetting story
I've always been particularly entertained at the panic around Harry Potter, when HP is THE most secular, non-supernatural magic I've ever read. Hogwarts is not a mystical, religious place. It's not like their powers come from any occult forces or practices. It's basically just a normal boarding school where levitation happens.
1.) I have an aunt who was so religious, when she saw her nephew reading HP in a hospital she freaked out so hard. Started screaming about blasphemy and said he was handing his soul to the devil. 2.) When the HP movies came to my small town, the nuns literally protested it and the town obliged and didn't show it. I never understood wtf they thought it was.
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 how do christians not realize there is magic in the bible? "In the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." It is literally a giant spellbook with hidden meanings to protect it.
I've always been grateful that my parents, while religious, never stopped me from seeing normal fun things. they protected me as a child from things they see as inappropriate, and now that I'm an adult I can watch anything. but they never stopped me from watching stuff that was secular because that was stupid. I live in this world. can't be blind. and it's not teaching me to be evil or sin. I had to make those choices myself and just be a good person. So happy too because I got to see some great stuff as a kid that influenced me. also helps with my sense of humour now too
I love Dear Zachary and The Act of Killing, so glad you watched them! (Potential Dear Zachary spoilers) What makes Dear Zachary so disturbing is honestly just how intimate it is, not only was the creator deeply connected to the story, the viewer really gets to meet the cast and the narrator, making everything 100x worse, I have seen it over 5 times now, about once a year I watch it, and I can't help but get choked up when you can hear his voice break. It truly helps to remind me just how important people can be to each other.
The Act of Killing is probably my favorite documentary to date. Watching the main guy’s progression and the weight of his actions hit him in those final moments was crazy.
Watching Dear Zachary made me feel a sort of hopelessness I’d never experienced before. The sense of dread the documentary left me with was a sensation I could never even put into words. An absolute tragedy to say the least.
@@nilek198 There's nothing scary about it. It's really best if you go into it unspoiled, but the basic concept is that it's a doc about a tragedy that affected this family, and how they dealt with the aftermath. I just finished watching it and was quite the experience
@@nilek198 for sure this’ll be kinda brief because I’m not that great at explanations, sorry. But basically Zachary is the name of the child that the film creator wanted to dedicate the film to, because his father Andrew was shot and killed by an ex-girlfriend of his when Zachary was still a baby. So the film was basically created as a way for Zachary as he grew older to kind of know his father and who he was, and hear the testimonials from those who loved his father. Even though Andrew passed, his spirit remained very prevalent through his son Zachary, and although a tragedy that they lost Andrew, they still had sweet Zachary to remember him by. Long story short, in the midst of an intense custody battle between the ex and Andrew’s parents, the ex became bitter and ended up taking the life of the child as well as her own.
“Tomorrow I’m Dead” by Bun Yom is an incredible story on the killing fields from the perspective of someone who was working them. He later escaped and became one of the most feared freedom fighters in Cambodia. The way he writes was amazing because of all the stuff he went through, yet he forgives them all and lived life happily. Worth a read if you’re interested
The Khmer Rouge perpetrated some of the most viscerally disturbing crimes in modern history and its often forgotten here in the west despite Pol Pot being public enemy number one long ago. A friend of my family went on a christian mission to cambodia and heard from locals how the legacy of the massacres and dictatorship still linger over the nation
@@nathanielleack4842 Its not known in the west for a specific reason though, after the vietnam war, the us wanted revenge, and the US, China, Thatcher and the Thai monarchy all provided aid to pol pot to use against the Vietnamese (backed by the Soviets) because they wanted to prevent a united indo-china Soviet to the point that they advoacted for the Khmer Rouge to keep the UN seat for Cambodia years after, as opposed to the new government aligned with Vietnam it doesn't make anyone look very good (except Vietnam) so the west would rather forget about it, same with indonesia
@@nathanielleack4842 oh trust me man as an american i know how you feel, I know how you feel its a sad reality that most people are kept in the dark about.
@@nathanielleack4842 As a westerner I have only heard of Pol Pot from the Dead Kennedy's song and even then I had no idea who the hell he was until recently, and based on Chris S's comment it doesn't surprise me the US actually helped Pol Pot fuck up his own people This combined with the background in The Act of Killing really says to me that the US LOVES to pretend they aren't one of the most spiteful and warmongering countries on the planet This place fucking sucks
Dear Zachary is one of the most heart wrenching documentaries I’ve ever seen. The crazy thing is that I found it out of nowhere on TH-cam at like 1 AM and thought I’d only watch a little bit of it but ended up pulling an all-nighter and just crying my eyes out
@@manwhosayshi1910 Basically it's about a guy named Andrew Bagby who was murdered by his ex-girlfriend, Shirley Turner. It starts off as a bunch of interviews from Andrew's friends and family about who he was and what effect he had on them. Then it goes off the rails when they find out Shirley was pregnant with Andrews child. She gives birth and names the baby Zachary, and Bagby's parents are awarded custody, since Turner is being charged for murder. Then the movie turns into a sort of message for Zachary to tell him about his father. Spoilers. And then Shirley, with the help of a judge, is released on bail and sues for joint custody of Zachary. On one of the days she has him, she jumped into the ocean with him in a murder-suicide.
I just watched Dear Zachary on your recommendation. I couldn’t sleep and was watching your video, so I figured I’d turn it on. I wept. I truly laid in bed and cried for 20 minutes. The care and love that was put into that documentary shined through in every scene. I was enraged, then disappointed, then enraged again. I gave my 10 month old an extra tight hug as she slept next to me after it finished. There are very few pieces of media that hit quite like Dear Zachary.
“Dear Zachary” fucked me up so hard. I was so shaken up by it that I just sat in dead silence for about an hour or so after I watched it before I just started sobbing.
@@heather_doestruecrime so its about a man named zachery who was supposedly killed by his then girlfriend, and its then found that the girlfriend was pregnant afterwards. The documentary is made by like a close friend. I watched it years ago, but anything else would spoilers so i'll stop there.
He wasn't lying about Dear Zachary jeeezz. I watched it right after this video and was like "I don't think it'll be that bad, I can handle it".....I cried a whole waterfall of tears. If you feel like you need a cry and have a little anger toward an evil person you can go watch this film. But man, that was intense
I just finished watching it and I was wailing so hard. I went in blind, so it tooks some time before I understood that _that_ had actually happened. It broke my heart. I feel so bad for everyone who were affected by all this.
I saw this documentary years ago and I’m so glad that Mista GG brought it back to my memory, even though I cried the entire time I watched it. Still, sometimes you see a doc that’s so moving that you’re thankful for it, even though it’s so unbelievably sad.
My coworkers watched it one by one till they convinced me to watch it. They wouldn't tell me anything, so I also watched it coming in blind. I screamed at THAT part. I was so pissed, I was crying angry tears. Came in the next day like "WTF?!" They were like "RIGHT?!"
The jesus camp doc really hits me because…how do you do that to children? I went to a greek orthodox camp for a number of years and it was some of the best times of my life - it made me actually enjoy religion more because the religious aspects were boiled down to two masses a day and a short prayer over lunch and a few “free talks” with the priests during the stay - other than that we just enjoyed ourselves, had a fun time, it was just run of the mill middle school and high school fun with some religious experiences sprinkled throughout
Some churches and denominations just end up being lead by absolute nutjobs who are either fanatically insane or completely manipulative abusers. I'm glad I grew up with my local church that basically had none of the absurd fearmongering of normal things like Harry Potter or Pokemon and it saddens me to see how bad people had it in the comment section.
Christian Orthodox institutions are not as corrupted as other denominations are. That's why I like them, they are more traditional and tolerant without feeling like a cult.
I feel the same with Catholic high school retreats. We had so much fun playing volleyball, singing folk songs, playing cards and board games, and being goofy. The priests and group leaders were both our supervisors and friends. We had praise and worship was my favorite part because we became vulnerable in front of God. These retreats grew my faith. I developed a relationship with God by the help of others. That’s why we need religion. It wasn’t just about rules. It’s about a relationship. Once you get a relationship, the rules make sense. I still struggle with some Catholic teachings. Everyone has a problem with some of the rules. It’s normal. I’m also disgusted with the bad priests. I was so fortunate to have priest friends. The diocese in my area has 2+ young priests coming in per year. That’s saying something! These Evangelicals make us Catholics and Orthodox look so bad.
I also went to a Greek Orthodox camp! I even went on to be a counselor for a number of years before life got in the way. That camp brought me closer to God than my actual church did, weirdly enough
The Act of Killing makes me think about Hannah Arendt’s idea about “The Banality of Evil”. Evil deeds are not done by evil people. They’re performed by normal people who just refuse to engage with these actions that they do. They just refuse to think about it. And these people are normal people who live lives similar to ours, they have families, go to the mall and try out ellipticals. They just perform these evil deeds and then continue to live their lives.
Yep, you can actually even see the difference with some specific characters in The Act of Killing and The Look of Silence. Most of the killers are pretty much just normal dudes who either don't think about what they've done or find ways to rationalize everything, however there are two or three men in the movies that are just built different and are much closer to what we may call 'evil' (while they probably still must have reasons which made them be that way, evil past the point of no return), and not because of exactly what they've done, but how the view what they've done, or how far they go, to the point of insanity, to rationalize their actions (specifically talking about the "blood guy" in the sequel)
Well they might think of themselves as normal people and try to rationalize their heinous acts but no matter what they think of it, that action itself (murder) is what makes a normal person an evil one. Trying to rationalize evil is a something evil people do.
It’s so crazy seeing people talk about Jesus camp. My whole life was like that until I was 17. I forgot honestly how bad it looks now that I’m “on the other side”
I'm guessing this was how your family was like. How did you manage to escape their grasp and mindset? And how did you cut them off? I'm in no similar situation but I kind of have a hatred and fear for people like these
@@NeverExistedShadow13 it took something bad happening to me done by people at the church for my family to see that the place we went to was insane. My fam is low key still into it, but not to my face. I have a rough relationship with my family because of it, cuz they’re always hoping I’ll at least go to church somewhere else, but I’m far from a “kid on fire” anymore lol.
@@NeverExistedShadow13 they usually target single moms or people in dire financial straits, and drag them into the church. But you’re not allowed to leave, read books about other religions, and you HAD to participate. Pentecostal churches are super scary, especially as a kid.
I grew up the same. I went to "church camp" for years. I knew it was brain washing at the time I just didn't have words for it. I remember one week devoted to the dangers of rock and roll. Basically anything that wasn't church or Jesus related was sin.
I remember my dad didn’t want to buy us Harry Potter, not because of the whole wizard thing, but because he thought a story about a hairy guy who’s into pottery would be stupid. Ah shit I just remembered that when we first watched the movie and Hagrid kicked down the door my dad whispered to me “is that the hairy guy?”
My mother is awful with names and faces. She doesn’t know Daniel Radcliff’s name, but my dad loves the Harry Potter movies. Any time my mom sees a nondescript white guy with brown hair (bonus points if he’s wearing glasses) on TV or billboards, she’ll ask if that’s “Henry Potter.” Not to mention the fact that my dad has a Gandalf tattoo because he loves LoTR. He’s had that tattoo since before the films came out. And like a year ago my mom pointed at it and said “That’s the Bumble-man guy, right? From your Henry Potter movies?” And wouldn’t back down when my dad said no, that his tattoo isn’t, in fact, dumbledoor.
Dear Zachary is such a heartbreaking story. It’s one of those situations that reminds you how unfair and cruel life can be for no reason. All anyone in that story gained was endless grief.
Honestly The Act of Killing was one of, if not my most, favorite documentaries I've ever watched. The frankness of their retelling of their acts, Anwars guilt hitting him mid shoot. Im not gonna lie, I smiled when he started dry heaving on the roof, I felt no sympathy for any of the individuals in that movie. A moment in history devoured by The Heart of Darkness
It's not on Netflix (in the US), but Three Identical Strangers is an interesting and I'd say heart wrenching documentary On Netflix, Dirty John is a dramatization of a real life incident that was a originally told via podcast and it was genuinely terrifying
I went in completely blind to Three Identical Strangers and it’s the first documentary I recommended to people now! It’s hard because you really should go into it blind but it’s just unbelievable
I never would have found Dear Zachary without this video, and it broke me, from bringing up memories of losing my brother, to confronting the idea of losing friends, never knowing the little things in their lives I may never get to know, and breaking down throughout almost the entire movie from one heartbreaking piece to another. It makes you re-evaluate your relationships and consider what you might be missing out on, and for that I commend the friends and family that went through hell getting to the place to help those who need it, and you for bringing this to your viewers and presenting it in such a respectful and open way
There is a companion piece to The Act of Killing called "The Look of Silence" which follows a man whose brother was a victim of the 1965-66 Indonesia massacre. So if you do another 4 disturbing documentaries, maybe this could be on your radar?
I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear dre
In Jesus camp there’s a kid wearing a shirt that says “Jesus” in the Reese cup font. I found the shirt online and bought it. I then had to stop wearing it because I was stopped every time I wore it by Christians thanking me for spreading the word and blessing me. Too weird for me.
Same I bought this semi-Rasta tank from Spencer’s back in the day that had the big Jesus T pose statue from Rio blocking a soccer goal that said “JESUS SAVES”. Had to retire it after getting bible verses slung at me like I should know what they mean.
I don’t think Dear Zachary is just sad and disturbing. It also gives me faith in humanity and illustrates the indomitable human spirit. In that documentary you see one person who is sick and evil but also two people and who exude extreme kindness and love in the face of unimaginable tragedy. This is film took a blow torch to my cold heart and forced me to re-examine my cynicism. Whenever I feel like I’m at the end of my rope, I watch the last few minutes of that documentary.
So glad to see someone else say that. Yes, it was heart-breaking, but I was also overwhelmed with how much love all those surviving family members and friends have for each other.
hi, Indonesian here, thank you for taking the time to watch act of killing, it's one the profound history of indonesia but no one is talking about it. it was a witch hunt back in the day, my dad was one of the many witness of this period, he was still a kid at that time. he used to see floating bodies in the same river once or twice, it was said an accident.
I watched Dear Zachary with a roommate on a completely random chance, it showed up in the queue we had on and by the end we both just sat in stunned silence. It’s not disturbing in a traditional sense, but it’s an emotionally taxing story that will both destroy and restore your faith in humanity. Its old, from 2008 and it definitely shows its age, but I highly recommend it.
I just finished watching it and I feel so numb after it. I haven't sobbed like that in a while. Watched it after watching this video... what you said, 1000% accurate.
@@lekinova glad I read the comments before I watched the vid. I love gg but imma skip this one. Not interested in triggering another depressive episode when I finally feel a lil happy.
@@ggundercover3681 I’m only okay watching it because I’m on medication and at a really good point mental health wise right now - DONT watch it if you at all feel like you’re not ready because it…hurts
This movie was crazy sad and I feel so bad when I realize that the place where the mom drowned her kid was right next to where I live which is in Newfoundland and labrador
Dude... I just finished watching Dear Zachary. Severely underestimated your claim of weeping and found myself in the same exact situation. I'm really glad you encouraged us to go watch it.
The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez was one of the most gut wrenching stories I’ve seen unfold, I may not be that well rounded in disturbing film or documentaries but as a seasoned true crime watcher. It’s one of the only stories that make me feel sick
Back from Dear, Zachary. While it didn’t break me, it was very heartbreaking. Without saying anything, watch it. It hurts. It does. But it needs to be watched. It’s beautifully made. Heartbreakingly beautiful.
I watched Dear Zachary because of how you described it and I ended up pausing multiple times just to cry and did cried so much that I was literally dehydrated and had a massive headache, and then was straight up not okay for three days. The doc isn't that disturbing but it still manages to leave a massive effect that just stays with you.
“Why did you kill me” is pretty good but kind of unsatisfying in it’s presentation by the end imo. “The trials of Gabriel Fernandez” is also pretty brutal
How to die in Oregon fucked me up too… my dad died of brain cancer when I was a baby, and my grandma died of pancreatic cancer a few years ago, I was with her at her bedside when she passed. She suffered in pain for far too long. I have an extremely painful life-altering chronic illness and I am so grateful in Canada we have a death with dignity law. I was so happy for the people in the doc to be able to have that choice available for them!
The Act of Killing had me mesmerized from start to finish. I'll never forget it cause I've never seen anything like it. Real evil, real guilt, real denial. It was insane.
My high school film as literature teacher told me and my classmates about Dear Zachary. He was the most emotionless human I had ever met but when he started talking about the film, he was visibly getting upset. I decided to watch it afterwards. I was not ready for the overwhelming onslaught of depression.
Okay. DEAR ZACHARY, is without a doubt, one of the best tributes to life and storytelling I have ever seen. I watched it over ten years ago for the first time, and have seen it many times since. Tragic story, very well told.
I’ll never forget my experience in a Christian preschool, my grandma gave me a Harry Potter toy of him riding a broomstick and I took it into class for show and tell only to be verbally attacked and yelled at by psycho older Christian women *cough* *cough* my teachers…. Pretty much from that point on I’ve abandoned all belief systems
I went to a Christian school growninh up and brought my pokemon cards one morning back in 4th grade. The teacher took them and tore them all up. It's not like I had them out in the middle of class either, it was during lunch. It's insane how religion will demonize certain things :/
not such a visceral cause but pretty much the reason I also abandoned all belief systems. In my country, we have a class on Catholic studies and... The hate and vitriol those people possessed to everyone that was different. The victim complex. The lack of any concrete reasoning. It all made me so... Not even angry, just feeling so negative all the damn time I walked into that class. I got to know two things in those times; 1. God doesn't exist because if he did, he wouldn't let those people speak anything like that in his name. 2. And even if he does, I don't want to have anything to do with him.
@@panonymousbloom5405 its not god thats the issue, its the people who do things in his name incorrectly. Its quite disrespectful. Like for me, i believe in a cosmic flow of things and i believe in a higher power or a god. But what i disagree with a lot of the times are religions that try to be the “center” when there are hundreds of thousands of religions that claim the same thing. Then you have the people who do unholy or devious things that literally contradict their laws and beliefs. Religion: I stay away from Holy, Peaceful higher powers: I trust in
Already from the thumbnail, I see Dear Zachary which is heartbreaking. The book is just as heart-breaking. I am a HUGE documentary fan, especially true crime. Grizzly Man was interesting, but I agree it was a long one.
3:27 i was raised in this church denomination for 20 years. to do something for the flesh means to do it for yourself or because you enjoy it. the flesh refers to your human body, which is, according to this religion, inherently sinful, wretched and filthy. anything you do for yourself in your body is filthy, which is why you need to do it with your focus and mindset on god.
I’ve watched far too many of these. “The Act of Killing” particularly spooked me. The men in that video were pure evil. Like, legit “Going to Hell and not giving a shit” evil. On the other side of that coin was “Jesus Camp”. I’ve seen some fucked up shit in my day, but those two docs freaked me the fuck out. **shivers**
The scary thing about religion is that if the child indoctrination by religion goes far enough, the children from Jesus Camp could easily grow up into being the people interviewed in The Act of Killing. The kids would be so damaged that they could kill in 'Jesus Name' and believe that they did nothing wrong and are gonna still go to heaven.
@@seanrosenau2088 You’re not wrong. Many people use the so-called “Word of God” to subjugate others to begin with, then they take more and more agency until it ultimately ends in slaughter.
@@seanrosenau2088 um. That’s very very very rare, and would only happen in fringe extremist groups. Yes it has/can happen, but most “Jesus camps” treat the children very well and don’t teach them that they can kill in God’s name. No one that believes that would be allowed a position of leadership in any modern church. I could see it happening with the more culty groups though.
@@snakesonaframe2668 No There are groups far larger and worse than the one in ‘Jesus Camp’, and I’m sorry to say this, but if you honestly believe “modern” churches are immune to corruption and extremism then you’re just plain dumb.
I watch Dear Zachary at least twice a year, it is the perfect example of a “scrapbook documentary” that works, I love it because you will laugh at the funny memories his friends and family share and then you are on the floor crying your eyes out, I love it so much
Dear Zachary is so powerful the goddamn trailer alone brought people to tears. It's such an amazing documentary with a heartbreaking story that everyone should watch at least once.
I just watched "The Act of Killing" and the ending of that documentary truly rattled me. To see Anwar back at the place from the beginning where he danced so joyfully, gagging at the memories of what he's done... it will certainly stick with me for a long time.
Two I would recommend that are actually on TH-cam are “There’s something wrong with Aunt Diane” and “Just Melvin, just Evil”. Both can be considered rough watches for different reasons.
I just watched Wrinkles the Clown. Not as disturbing as these but a little unsettling. Like I lived in Florida when it was happening but somehow didn’t know about it..
One of sad thing about the movie "The Act Of Killing" is that the movie is not even being watched by the target audience, that is the Indonesian people. Yes there is some people knew it, but they are either a super nerdy history buff, or knew it from watching this type a video. The reason is first because there is no Indonesian content creator that brave enough to tell people about the movie because "The Winner" will probably makes you gone from the earth, second is people already getting their information of this tragedy from the winner side, it is being putted in history lesson in your school, there also government made movie called "g30s pki" that being played on 30th September every year, which telling their side of the story. Plus Indonesia already let's say move on from that history, there nothing you can't do about it anymore.
Dear Zachary.. Probably one of my favorites of all time, the emotion I when first watching it felt like the creator had me in the palm of his hand. I felt what he wanted me to feel all the time, didn't know what he didn't want me to know, and hated the people he wanted me to hate, all up until the end. truly a great doc.
Wasn't the bear that Mauled Timothy actually not one of the local ones at all? For some reason I remember hearing it was a vagrant bear, like sort of a "criminal bear" almost, encroaching on the territory and such.
It was a bear that hadn't managed to gain enough fat to hibernate so it was desperately trying to find food to survive the winter hibernation, so it was very dangerous and Timothy knew that bears out this late in the season were very dangerous yet he did everything that he knew you are 100% not supposed to do near any bear in this desperate state, he hid his tent in bushes, he stayed after the 'safer' season time was over and he encouraged the bear to go near him and his girlfriend! He knew enough about bears to u derstand that even 1 of these things was life threatening yet he did it all, he purposely put his and his girlfriends lives at risk and they both paid the ultimate price, even the bear was killed after the attack and the bear probably attacked them out of starvation and desperation as it wasn't fat enough to survive the winter so would of died anyway, to the bear they were both nothing more than food and I think it took a couple of days before the bear even attacked as it probably didn't know that it could eat them, Timothy had plenty of time to leave but didn't, why he did that only he knows, he knew he was risking his and his girlfriend and still did everything he did so maybe he had a death wish or a mental delusion that he was immune to bear attacks, we'll never know
Anyone interested in Timothy Treadwell should read the article 'Night of the Grizzly - A True Story Of Love And Death In The Wilderness'. The bear that killed them was one the pilot who usually picked Timothy up recognized, a bear with an ear tag aka bear #141, a bear Timothy named Ollie. Timothy knew this bear, and it had been in the area for a long time.
Yeah, it was actually revealed that the bear that killed both him and his girl was actually just some random ass bear who was wandering around, and didn’t have any sort of experience with Treadwell. He happened to run into them, and seeing as how it was nearing Hibernation time, we know the rest. It wasn’t really him getting what was comin to him, but rather, him and his girl being at the wrong place at the wrong time
I watched dear Zachary because of your suggestion and I was so so sad for that poor family. They were so loved and I have never cried this hard at anything before. It was so horrible. I really appreciate you bringing awareness to me about their story and also retroactively keeping their memories alive. Rip.
I literally got goosebumps again reading this comment because like…you just can’t imagine that it really happened. I was like “there’s no fucking way” After all that love and fighting from his family and it *still* happened
I watched the documentary years ago, and I STILL can remember the exact feeling that punched through my body at that point in the doc. I don't think I've ever felt anything like it before or since.
Agreed. I have ptsd from religious abuses complicated by the indoctrination - I was a 'sinner' for simply 'existing', & 'tempting' others to abuse me... XOXO ❤💔
@@horizonblack TY :) & Yeah - This is the only time I wish there were a mini-hell tbh. Just like 100 years of torture would be awesome. But I fail to see evidence for anything magical so I expect there's nothing. XO love & peace to you & yours, sweet cyber friendly stranger ❤
@@him1517 For American RW evangelicals anyhow. I used to be faithful & never saw any of that in church. I even got sent to Jesus camp by my very religious aunt & it was just a normal camp but we had to say grace. This being so common says a lot about how crazy people have become. XO be safe
I went to watch "Dear Zachary" during the segment mid-video, going in completely blind, and it destroyed me. There is so little malice and so much hope during the whole documentary that it shatters you. I somehow happy cried and got goosebumps out of pure visceral rage within 40 minutes.
The night terrors start when you realize each of those adults was once a child, and they never stood a chance. They didn't make any choice to lie to children or be hateful. This is how they were raised. They are simply reflections of their environments.
The Act Of Killing always fascinates me. Something about it is so grounding. It makes you think of your own mortality and morality as you hear these men speak on their crimes.
My sister was personal friends with Timothy Treadwell (the subject of Grizzly Man) and he was one of the kindest and most passionate people I had ever met. He inspired me so much to stand up for what I believe is right and was a huge reason why I started thinking differently about how animals are treated in the world and became an ardent proponent of animal rights activism. My mom, sister, Timothy and I had lunch together before one of his conferences, and he was just so genuine. When we heard the news about what happened to him (I think it was only a year or two after I met him), it was so heartbreaking, and it is even more heartbreaking to hear how some people talk about him. "He was crazy." "Oh, he should have known it would happen." He trusted his bears, as they always behaved around him. It was an unfortunate circumstance. They were his friends, it's just that nature sometimes can't be controlled. That's what happened. It's just so sad.
Jesus Camp! JESUS CAMP. That docu has been a meme among my family members before memes were even a thing. We were raised religious but were never hardcore like that. Jesus Camp introduced religious extremism to me as a kid...”IF HARRY POTTER WERE ALIVE TODAY, HE WOULD BE PUT TO DEATH!” Same goes for Grizzly Man to a lesser extent. We had a neighbour (loved animals, HATED people and tried to steal our dog) on our road we compared him to.
I’m not a hardcore Christian either but Jesus camp is just disturbing and if anything that camp is the true evil they proclaim their trying to protect the kids from.
I've never seen Jesus Camp but I've actively avoided it after growing up in a homeschooling evangelical cult myself... I know its going to trigger me too brutally. Dear Zachary makes me cry when I think about it to this very day.
Fun fact I just learned: all warlocks are wizards but not all wizards are warlocks, a warlock is a wizard of great achievements or a really strong one. So harry was a wizard at the beginning and a warlock by the end of the series! The more you know!
Nah, the difference is that wizards use intelligence and warlocks use charisma. Wizards study books and warlocks have a patron god that grants them powers. This joke was brought to you by D&D, please play responsibly.
If we go by very old definitions, "warlock" used to mean a man who had broken his oath in old English, which came to mean a man who who denounced good and chose allegiance with evil powers.
Usually when u recommend some of these disturbing films i never actually check em out cuz i have no interest in watching them myself... But somehow u convinced me to check out dear zachary smh. The amount of tears that i shed watching this must be unhealty... The amount of overwhelming emotion.. All the rage and sadness this story made me experience was truly heart wrenching... I can't even imagine what this must have been like for Kate and Andrew, they must've been some incredibly strong people. My heart is with all of them. This story has genuinely left me devasted and speechless. RIP to Andrew and little Zachary😔♥ To think i'm only a couple months older than little zach...
I have clinical depression and I remember going to all kinds of churches and saying ‘if god loves me why would he make me feel this way?’ ‘If the devil did it why did god let him?’ They couldn’t explain it. I’m glad people go to church though, *some* good people go.
So happy to see dear Zachary being talked about, honestly one of my favorite docs. Another interesting one is 'There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane, the last 10 minutes are what really make it memorable,
Right when you got to Dear Zachary, I immediately paused and watched the documentary, and... god that was a lot. Documentaries like this one (and all of the films you talked about in this video) are like the biggest slap in the face of how heavy reality is
What is the premise of this film? Nobody ever goes into detail, I need like a short synopsis. Certain things I watch effect me enough that my life would be in danger if it's sad enough. I don't want to go into it blind, or possibly at all ever.
@@seanrosenau2088 Spoilers Ahead: A man named Andrew Bagby is killed by his girlfriend, Shirley Turner, who then flees to Newfoundland while pregnant with his son Zachary, leaving his family to mourn. Andrews parents, David and Kathleen, move to Newfoundland in order to pursue justice in the interest of their grandson. Long story very much short, Turner is let out on bail as a result of a gross oversight in the Canadian legal system. Not long after, she kills herself along with one-year-old Zachary.
I grew up in a Pentecostal Christian household where my parents did a lot of the “weird Christian things”, but they never expected me or my sister to act that way. They only ever explained why they did that or acted weird when we asked them about it. I also attended a lot of church camps growing up but they weren’t really like the one in Jesus Camp. They were more about emotional healing, growing closer to God and being more confident in your faith. Which I believe even now as an adult are all good things. I think there’s a big difference between teaching and manipulating and the people in the Jesus Camp doc were super manipulative.
I agree. I grew up Catholic and I also went to a few retreats. None of it was like Jesus camp except for some minor things. My whole Catholic experience was different. Inside the Catholic church we're calm and we don't jump up and yell or sing loudly. When I was in youth group they fed us free dinner because it was in the evening and then we did small group where we talked about our day and how God can help us get through things as well as standard lessons. At my Catholic camp we did mass and played alot of fun games without the topic of God constantly being hammered on us. We did do some "weird" things like adoration where we had to kneel on the floor for an hour and kids would cry and laugh because they'd get so into it because of the presence of Christ. I'm not Catholic anymore though because I think I want to be Protestant now. But back to the film I feel like they were trying to make christians look like brainwashing malevolent people when majority are not. My parents were pretty casual with it too and I'm that way as well. Too much of anything isn't good
I honestly saw this way to much growing up in rural east Texas, in the bible belt. I grew up a Christian but overtime distanced myself from it but the church my grandmother raised me and my siblings in was a very similar and toxic environment. Saying things like we won't make it to 18 cause the tribulation and pumping up the brimstone and fire. I did find one church next to my school that I found community with. Although we stopped going when they protested one of our friends (a fellow church goer) from being in my band because they thought a band would lead to nothing but sin unless it was a worship band. So I cut ties with them. After all that I just went my own way cause it was always for God and never for you with those kind of people. At the end of the day just believe what you want but realize others don't live or believe the same way and unfortunately we see people of every race and religion doing this not just a section of Christians. we just gotta be the example cause we all beautiful people!!
Dear Zachary honestly had me in shock, it's so good the way Kurt pulls you in and then gives you hard sucker punches of disturbance. Great movie, but very emotionally gripping
I COLLAPSED at that one part of Dear Zachary and was absolutely NOT OK for at least an hour. You know what part. I do love how everyone who’s seen the doc has the same recommendation afterward: “Watch it. Oh my god, you have to see it. I’m not going to tell you anything about it, but you need to know it will fuck you up. It will destroy you for a while, it’ll leave you with an impotent anger that will follow you the rest of your life, but you need to watch it anyway.”
A professor of mine is related to the crew that shot the act of killing. The dry heave scene was shot much earlier than the dancing one, they edited it like that to "enhance" the narrative. The director also made another doc on the same subject, but focusing on the victims instead. Check it out!
Okay, I just finished watching Dear Zachary, and holy shit I'm still bawling my eyes out. I'm so fucking glad they passed Zachary's Bill so no child has to endure this ever again. Fuck dude, that was just... heartbreaking.
My Fiancée and I were watching this and something compelled me to pause the video and watch “Dear Zachary”. Wow, what a powerful experience. The raw emotion conveyed in it is wild to say the least. Thanks so much for the recommendation Mista GG, you shared such an important story.
Paused the video after hearing what you said for Dear Zachery to give it a watch. I highly suggest to anyone who hasn't seen it, definitely give it a watch. It's such a heart-wrenching doc, it shows some of the worst of humanity but also it showed some of the best too. I was already crying halfway through, Kurt done an amazing job with the documentary so much love went into it.
the act of killing is genuinely one of my favourite films of all time. it's utterly mesmerising and just so raw. it's stuck with me since i first watched it.
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I watched 4 Mista GG videos…and I no nutted November for the rest of my life
'Why did you kill me?' is so good!!!!
Funny there's a movie with that name *Slow Torture Puke Chamber*
Dear Zachary broke me in college, I watch it every so often and it still gets me
I think you might like Lake Mungo 😊
I sat there for a second like "why tf does the mug say Michael??" And then I realized Mista GG is in fact NOT his actual name
Loool I thought the same thing and even said "his name is Michael??" out loud 😭😭
Cool we have the same name lol for context my name is Michael too
Shut up his name is MISTA
First name Mista last name GG
Michael is his good twin brother. GG is the evil twin and steals Michael's mugs for videos haha
People forget that Timothy wasn’t alone when he died. His poor girlfriend Amy was also killed and actually stuck around to try to save him. Damn that’s depressing.
No she wasn’t it literally shows her in the video
actually iirc from hearing a podcast, she remained at the campsite until the grizzly returned in which it killed her.
@smwatertasteslikewater The lady in the doc is his ex. His current girlfriend at the time of his death, died along with him.
As a former evangelical child, "for the flesh" is indeed a euphemism for "don't be a slut".
For Dear Zachary, I went out and bought the book that David Babgy wrote ("Dance With the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss") and it is even more heartbreaking to read this father talk about the painful things that happened.
"the flesh" is a reference to works of humanity outside of the spirit, there is nothing sexual in nature about the euphemism unless whoever taught you was themselves uneducated. see Galatians 3.
ughhh that Dear Zachery tore my heart out. The book stayed with me forever.
@@raythepizza “the flesh” is clearly most commonly used by evangelicals and the likes of them as an euphemism for sexual desires. Specially in the context the original commenter was talking about. You’re being intellectually dishonest.
I just learned at a very young age, 4, that people don't know what they are talking about 75% of the time so don't just believe gullible people unless you want your head filled with mistruths. So, I don't believe in the whole Bible thing despite going to Bible school starting at 4, I gotta say I really doged a bullet on that one because what I recently discovered about the origins of how these different versions of Bible's were crafted shows just how fake they are known to be. And during their creation of these Bible's based off of scriptures that were written around 2000 years before they made these Bible's custom to their separate beliefs because they removed, edited words written in the original scriptures in which there were as many as 80 to 100 which contradicted eachother, written over 1000 years, they destroyed all of the original scriptures to hide their evidence of fakery. It's only because of people finding out what they were doing that some of the original separate scriptures were saved by hiding them in places, like for example the dead see scrolls found. But most of the original scriptures have been completely destroyed though because some original scriptures were hidden they still exist today and in large completely contradict any of the modern Bible's for each main religion in which no Bible was crafted without editing the original words because of things they didn't approve of that it said, no Bible's included all of the scriptures that were found and mosty destroyed, infact the Christian religion used the least amount of original scriptures as any other version, only using 56 scriptures out of 80 to 100. We don't even know how many existed because of their fine and intentional deception. We don't even know what the original words were because they destroyed the evidence. Thus, you are most certainly not following the words of God with any Bible even if the original scriptures were actually inspired by God which itself isn't likely, the likely answer is they were using hallucinogens that they learned about from tribes who claimed they allowed you to communicate with the 'spirits'.
@@arthurgabriel7715 i am not defending evangelicals, im defending the bible. if evangelicals misinterpret scripture then they're wrong. but scripture is what i am talking about.
Just so you know, Timothy Treadwell was not killed by his own grizzlies but by a wandering one. So he was right. His grizzlies didn’t kill him.
This makes me so happy like what the hell. The weird funky bear dude is still smiling in heaven.
Thanks for this
😭😭
He just didnt get the memo until after
the point of the documentary is that these are animals, not humans, and they’re not your friends and don’t belong to anyone. they’re ferocious beasts who should be left alone for not only our best interest but also the bears
You NEED to watch The Look of Silence. It's the sequel to The Act of Killing. A family member of a victim interviews the killers and lets them speak in joy, and then at the end of each one who confronts them and tells them who he is. You see the fear in the killers faces.
Is it odd that I feel a strange satisfaction in reading the last sentence? Like... good. Good. Fear them, fear what you've sowed.
As someone with PTSD, I really can't process why people put themselves through that (making the documentary). I guess if it helps them get closure good on them, but it really sounds like self-harm to me. Absolutely insane.
@@ArturGlass.C And these are dangerous people... I'd be fearing for my safety..
@@NeverExistedShadow13 100%
I don’t buy the remorse from these guys. They asked for the doc to be done in a variety of styles, like a Hollywood musical or gangster film-they were playing it up.
Act of killing is like going to a society where the Nazi's won and then interviewing SS soldiers who have been celebrated as hero's for 50 years. It really hammers home the history is written by the winners point.
Uh, no. It's in different context. Not every massacre need to be equivalent of Nazi purge of Jews. That should not be done since it's oversimplifying and may produce misconception of history. Please understand that.
What Anwar Congo and his colleagues did is still terrible, that should not be denied.
@свевский pretty sure it's done more than needed. To the point of overshadowing other genocide-esque incident in human history.
I'm so sorry but the first thing I thought of was Wolfenstein, as some of the later Wolfenstein games do take place in a world where the axis powers won ww2.
Yep. Just remember whose side NATO took the moment the Nürnberg Trials actually began...
@@DistractedGlobeGuy
Bro, NATO didn't even exist back then. At least get basic facts like this correct. Jeez.
Dear Zachary was without a doubt, the most disturbing and heartbreaking pieces of film i’ve ever seen. absolutely heart wrenching
Ugh I know, it just devastated me when that twist part hit.
A serbian film..........
I mean ig.
@@dinobravo1998 its not disturbing or heartbreaking. Its cringe how hard the director is trying to be disturbing. If that movie shakes you up that much might wanna avoid watching litterally anything "disturbing"
@@dinobravo1998 that's not a documentary and cannot possibly be compared to true crime.
I absolutely LOST IT at “WHERES THE EZEKIEL MEAL?!”
Badabababa. I’m losin’ it
LMAO i work at mcdonalds and i nearly pissed myself the first time i heard it
@@Connorly800 u should use that at work when u get stressed out lol (working retail sucks, but the big fast food are waaaay worse.) I wouldn't mind working at one run by morons like Burger King or Rally's/Checkers lol (not knocking Checkers, I love me some Checkers, but they hire the least intelligent, laziest people I've ever seen....BK is same nowadays)
I am the 666th like
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*SPOILER ALERT*
"Dear Zachary" devastates every audiences of all ages. I looked through the comments of the documentary and some of them were from Gen Zs. Since Zachary was born in 2002, they wanted to know what happened to him. They wanted to check out his social media, see what he was up to, until they watched the ending. They were heartbroken. Reading their comments, it almost sounded like they mourned for their potential best friend.
As for me, I rarely cry watching documentaries, but oh...oh God, his poor grandparents 😢💔
EXACTLY. I was born in the same exact year as Zachary, and I just couldn't wait to finish watching the documentary so that I could look up how Zachary's life is, with all the loving people surrounding him, and how he reacted to watching Kurt's tribute to his father. Then the bomb hit, and along with it disbelief, anger, hate, sadness and, finally, hope.
I was born around the same time he was and I was looking forward to knowing how he is now after finishing the documentary and it all just ended in heartbreaking sobbing....
That's very similar to how I feel about Connor Peterson, the unborn son of Laci Peterson. Laci lived in my hometown, and I presume she would've raised Connor there. If he had been born alive, he would've been just a little older than me, and with our moms both being teachers, I'm sure we would've been at least friendly. With situations like Zachary's, Connor's, and so many others, I think it's impossible for those of us in the same age range to not think about what could have (and SHOULD HAVE) been.
@@funnyteacherman I think every generation has at least a few of those, unfortunately. For me it was Jon Benet Ramsey.
I feel so empty after watching. Haven't cried like that in a long time 😭
Seeing ‘Dear Zachary’ written out was enough to bring me to tears again. Such a powerful doc
Same 💔
Sorry, I’m about to go to sleep but want to watch this tomorrow, what’s the time stamp?
@@Omnihilo_ there's nothing about that in this video,these people writing about that are just crazy
@@Batnano what?
@@Batnano ...what do you mean? he Mista GG brought it up. he showed the "dear zachary" writing...
Honestly one of my favorite channels to watch. Always bringing out bangers bro
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didn’t think i would see ypu
oh hey OSM lmao
@@braydenbaumer5752 glad i was able to translate that comment made no sense before
Yeeea fucking Mister GG makes great content.
I just finished watching Dear Zachary, and then watched the update from the filmmaker here on TH-cam. As a stepmom who has had to calm her stepkids down, take them in because their mom “went crazy” and cried when they chose to go back, I can say this is our ultimate fear. And listening to the killer deliberately try to gaslight them with memories of their dead son as well as trying to bait them about Zachary hit a nerve.
Some women should not be moms.
I remember having the thought, after my mom and I escaped my dad, that people should have to register to procreate.
@@MaynardsSpaceship I’m glad you and your mom were able to escape. Some people aren’t so lucky. And I agree.
Dear Zachary will stay with me the rest of my life probably. There’s a scene during one of the parents interviews where the dad just goes off and it shook me to my core. The anguish and anger that rolls off of him was so palpable. I remember having to pause it and decide if I had it in me to continue watching.
and the grandma crying and just barely able to speak 😢🥺
I listened to him go off after we find out the inevitable and all I could do was nod. Everything he felt was completely justified.
I was in pure angry and total shock about that twist, Hands down the best documentaries.
Yes. The moment he tells the audience what he wished he had done, as terrible as it was, I agreed 100%. but it was too late
They were the sweetest people and for him to go off like that just showed they were at a wits end to try to protect their family.
The scene in grizzly man where the director listens to the tape, takes off the head phones and just says, don't listen to that. Idk it always gave me chills
There are fake videos on TH-cam saying it's the audio. I only found out after I listened that it was fake. I was still traumatised. You can read a transcript of the tape online. But the tape is destroyed I think.
ya werner herzog listened to it, then said dont listen to this. just destroy it. and he is probably just trying to save people the pain. powerful moment.
From the minute I finished the movie I always wondered what the tapes sound like. You're right about having the fake ones online. I watched am interview with Wverner and he said it was destroyed. It must have been super grizzly (ba-doom-tisss). The transcripts are correct though. I probably would have destroyed it too given that you could here the old bear literally eating them alive and he even screamed it was happening. Sheesh..😳
@@accuser_of_the_brethren7816 and it goes on for so long. It sounds like he was alive for like 10 minutes
@@em84c have you heard it? I've only heard a snippet from it and can frginyly$// and gndhll bsdd by.
Everybody’s talking about Dear Zachary, which is definitely a heartbreaking watch, but man, I watched The Act of Killing (and it’s companion The Look of Silence) back in 2015 and those have kinda lived in the back of my mind ever since, as far as ‘disturbing’ goes. It’s just so wild to me how the human mind can rationalize heinous acts and paint over them to the point they believe they were righteous ones. I mean, there’s an argument to be made that that happens pretty much all the time during war, but to see it so blatantly on screen was something else.
The most disturbing documentary (or docuseries) I’ve seen is The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez. I knew the story beforehand because I watch too much true crime content, but even then, I had to take a lot of breaks just to get through it.
Right? What the hell is it with Dear Zachary? I get the gut-wrenching sadness of it, but FUCK The Act Of Killing destroyed me. Like, you feel hollow knowing how easily those could be your countrymen, how easily all that pain and torture can be covered up. Living in a country where the leader has close ties with the military dictators of '64, the documentary leaves me feeling hopeless and afraid.
I would argue the vast majority of people see themselves as their own story’s hero. Not many people think they are truly the “bad guy”. I think anti-hero media are fairly good at showing that the road to evil is paved in good intentions, whether those intentions are truly “good”.
A famous one is Breaking Bad, Walter starts his illegal life to help pay for his treatment and wants to take care of his family in case he passes. It’s good intentions, but because of the road he travels down, it ends with doing some heinous shit.
Just interesting to think about.
I still can’t bring myself to watch the story of Angel baby Gabriel Fernandez. Learning about his suffering and his fate in the papers was enough to make me pissed off, sick to my core and sad for the loved ones he left behind.
I watched Dear Zachary by accident when it was on Netflix and got hooked because I wanted to know what happened to Andrew’s killer but DID NOT expect the plot twist. I couldn’t stop sobbing for the family.
@@nadiabenjaminpua4616 I cried basically the whole way thru that documentary. Everytime I thought I was able to suck it up and put up a strong front, something absolutely gut wrenching would be told/shown and I would break down again.
I took his advice and watched “Dear Zachary” with no context going into the film other than knowing it’s sad. Holy shit. Watch it.
I saw a post on FB about it & just knew it was a doc for a son about his dead father & that it turned into something else. Boy, did it fuck me up afterward.
Same. Fuck Shirley.
SAME!!!!!
Tell me
Same here, just now. I was absolutely angry and emotional. I was expecting something, but I wasn't ready.
Dear Zachary is one of the only documentaries that had me crying 95% of the time. That story breaks my heart and a bit of my soul died the day I saw it.
It straight crushes your soul multiple times.
you should watch 'my brother jordan' here on youtube
@@iva8111 ohmigod i cried so hard my eyes where so puffy at the end n i just wanted to hug everyone i knew
@@katreannakelly6327 SAME
The Act of Killing has imo the best ending of any film and portrays a raw and visceral depiction of remorse so powerful that it is even understood by those who don't feel it themselves.
That is so well phrased to describe that scene. 👏
My boy watched Dear Zachary, the saddest movie I've ever seen in my life. So proud of you!
I don’t cry very often but this movie legit made me tear up in sadness and anger.
I cried as well. Such a tragic story.
And that’s still my boy!!!!
Can someone tell me what it's about because I don't want to be sad watching it?
@@emilyau8023 I was prepared to call GG a bitch because I just watched it and Ummmmmmmmm....... I’m bawling my eyes out. I would hate to ruin it for you and I’m glad GG didn’t spoil it but I’m broken!!!! That was one of the saddest documentaries I’ve seen.
The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez is easily the most upsetting documentary I've ever seen. I still have not finished it despite knowing most facts about the case.
Agreed. That poor little boy and the monsters who were supposed to take care if him. I cried during the one.
I was just about to say that.
Same,there’s something bout it that makes me angry but just overall sad cus knowing what happens to that poor baby 😢
I've never had a strong emotional reaction that seeing that documentary. I can't talk about it without getting angry.
I think it's such an important documentary to watch, the entire system failed that child and it needs to be remembered so it never happens again
I ended up following your advice regarding Dear Zachary and it was just so intense.
I cried so many times during that documentary, and the "twist"? It literally made me cry angry tears, I don't think I have ever had that happen before. I was so mad and upset.
This is such a powerful documentary and I genuinely appreciate following your advice.
The glasses, that sexy mustache, dope ad segues…everything that gets me through the day
Dear Zachary never fails to make me cry, especially at the end when everyone in the documentary expresses their love to Andrew’s parents.
The entire documentary had me balling my eyes out but the end really did it for me. It gave me a little bit of hope that there can still be love after such a tragedy, which just made me cry even more. Kurt and Andrew’s parents truly deserve all the love in the world.
I watched Dear Zachary about ten years ago with my best friend and her boyfriend at the time. We had all gone to school together and my bff’s boyfriend was a very strong, burly, quiet “manly man” kind of guy. We all SOBBED during this doc. Like shaking breath, ugly noises crying. It’s a deeply upsetting story
I've always been particularly entertained at the panic around Harry Potter, when HP is THE most secular, non-supernatural magic I've ever read. Hogwarts is not a mystical, religious place. It's not like their powers come from any occult forces or practices. It's basically just a normal boarding school where levitation happens.
1.) I have an aunt who was so religious, when she saw her nephew reading HP in a hospital she freaked out so hard. Started screaming about blasphemy and said he was handing his soul to the devil.
2.) When the HP movies came to my small town, the nuns literally protested it and the town obliged and didn't show it. I never understood wtf they thought it was.
@@upbeatjohndoe8044 well my grandpa has basically said it was about magic and magic is evil
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 how do christians not realize there is magic in the bible? "In the beginning there was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
It is literally a giant spellbook with hidden meanings to protect it.
@@FayieElphis I don’t know. I’m a Christian and I gots no problem with Harry Potter as I have all the books because I understand that it’s not real
I've always been grateful that my parents, while religious, never stopped me from seeing normal fun things. they protected me as a child from things they see as inappropriate, and now that I'm an adult I can watch anything. but they never stopped me from watching stuff that was secular because that was stupid. I live in this world. can't be blind. and it's not teaching me to be evil or sin. I had to make those choices myself and just be a good person. So happy too because I got to see some great stuff as a kid that influenced me. also helps with my sense of humour now too
I love Dear Zachary and The Act of Killing, so glad you watched them!
(Potential Dear Zachary spoilers)
What makes Dear Zachary so disturbing is honestly just how intimate it is, not only was the creator deeply connected to the story, the viewer really gets to meet the cast and the narrator, making everything 100x worse, I have seen it over 5 times now, about once a year I watch it, and I can't help but get choked up when you can hear his voice break. It truly helps to remind me just how important people can be to each other.
Especially the fact that the tragic ending happened while it was being made and changed the story.
Couldn’t have said it any better!!
The Act of Killing is probably my favorite documentary to date. Watching the main guy’s progression and the weight of his actions hit him in those final moments was crazy.
Watching Dear Zachary made me feel a sort of hopelessness I’d never experienced before. The sense of dread the documentary left me with was a sensation I could never even put into words. An absolute tragedy to say the least.
Right?! I was just like "humans were a mistake" on my way to work cuz of course I was dumb enough to watch the whole doc before a shift
Can you spoil it for me? I’m scared to watch it and was hoping GG would
@@nilek198 There's nothing scary about it. It's really best if you go into it unspoiled, but the basic concept is that it's a doc about a tragedy that affected this family, and how they dealt with the aftermath. I just finished watching it and was quite the experience
@@nilek198 for sure this’ll be kinda brief because
I’m not that great at explanations, sorry. But basically Zachary is the name of the child that the film creator wanted to dedicate the film to, because his father Andrew was shot and killed by an ex-girlfriend of his when Zachary was still a baby. So the film was basically created as a way for Zachary as he grew older to kind of know his father and who he was, and hear the testimonials from those who loved his father. Even though Andrew passed, his spirit remained very prevalent through his son Zachary, and although a tragedy that they lost
Andrew, they still had sweet Zachary to remember him by. Long story short, in the midst of an intense custody battle between the ex and Andrew’s parents, the ex became bitter and ended up taking the life of the child as well as her own.
@@BubbzyLicious the episode of stalked someone’s watching evil intent was their episode
I went into Dear Zachary completely blind and oh my god, I've never had a movie experience like that at all. I felt every single emotion 100x
Same. It was so upsetting and made me so mad.
Holy fuck same.
Same, I love true crime but that doc got me. I had to pause it for a while after bc it shook me
Yeah, that one was... upsetting.
“Tomorrow I’m Dead” by Bun Yom is an incredible story on the killing fields from the perspective of someone who was working them. He later escaped and became one of the most feared freedom fighters in Cambodia. The way he writes was amazing because of all the stuff he went through, yet he forgives them all and lived life happily. Worth a read if you’re interested
The Khmer Rouge perpetrated some of the most viscerally disturbing crimes in modern history and its often forgotten here in the west despite Pol Pot being public enemy number one long ago. A friend of my family went on a christian mission to cambodia and heard from locals how the legacy of the massacres and dictatorship still linger over the nation
@@nathanielleack4842 Its not known in the west for a specific reason though, after the vietnam war, the us wanted revenge, and the US, China, Thatcher and the Thai monarchy all provided aid to pol pot to use against the Vietnamese (backed by the Soviets) because they wanted to prevent a united indo-china Soviet
to the point that they advoacted for the Khmer Rouge to keep the UN seat for Cambodia years after, as opposed to the new government aligned with Vietnam
it doesn't make anyone look very good (except Vietnam) so the west would rather forget about it, same with indonesia
@@chriss780 As a brit i usually brace myself for the inevitable "thatcher did it" she aided pinochet aswell. witch
@@nathanielleack4842 oh trust me man as an american i know how you feel, I know how you feel
its a sad reality that most people are kept in the dark about.
@@nathanielleack4842 As a westerner I have only heard of Pol Pot from the Dead Kennedy's song and even then I had no idea who the hell he was until recently, and based on Chris S's comment it doesn't surprise me the US actually helped Pol Pot fuck up his own people
This combined with the background in The Act of Killing really says to me that the US LOVES to pretend they aren't one of the most spiteful and warmongering countries on the planet
This place fucking sucks
Dear Zachary is one of the most heart wrenching documentaries I’ve ever seen. The crazy thing is that I found it out of nowhere on TH-cam at like 1 AM and thought I’d only watch a little bit of it but ended up pulling an all-nighter and just crying my eyes out
What happened? Please tell me
@@manwhosayshi1910 Basically it's about a guy named Andrew Bagby who was murdered by his ex-girlfriend, Shirley Turner. It starts off as a bunch of interviews from Andrew's friends and family about who he was and what effect he had on them. Then it goes off the rails when they find out Shirley was pregnant with Andrews child. She gives birth and names the baby Zachary, and Bagby's parents are awarded custody, since Turner is being charged for murder. Then the movie turns into a sort of message for Zachary to tell him about his father.
Spoilers.
And then Shirley, with the help of a judge, is released on bail and sues for joint custody of Zachary. On one of the days she has him, she jumped into the ocean with him in a murder-suicide.
@@TheAlmightyJello thank you!
@@TheAlmightyJello holy fucking shit
@@TheAlmightyJello wow. The legal system is a complete joke. Can't believe they let a murderer get her child Back.
Damn you, I decided to watch Dear Zachary after this, I didn’t plan on crying for an hour and a half straight. Jesus…
It's so worth it though. The music is still one of my faves.
Same. I just left this window open and went and watched it.
I'll feel okay again someday.
Same here, just finished it and I’m still crying
It is an emotional rollercoaster for sure.
i was halfway through his review of it and i was like “why not i’ll watch it”… im still crying and now i gotta finish the video
I just watched Dear Zachary on your recommendation. I couldn’t sleep and was watching your video, so I figured I’d turn it on.
I wept. I truly laid in bed and cried for 20 minutes.
The care and love that was put into that documentary shined through in every scene.
I was enraged, then disappointed, then enraged again.
I gave my 10 month old an extra tight hug as she slept next to me after it finished.
There are very few pieces of media that hit quite like Dear Zachary.
“Dear Zachary” fucked me up so hard. I was so shaken up by it that I just sat in dead silence for about an hour or so after I watched it before I just started sobbing.
It was so traumatic for me I will never forget it but I need to watch it one more time it really hit me
@@brionnapratt8366 what is it about???? I keep seeing people saying this but I’m scared to look it up honestly
@@heather_doestruecrime so its about a man named zachery who was supposedly killed by his then girlfriend, and its then found that the girlfriend was pregnant afterwards. The documentary is made by like a close friend. I watched it years ago, but anything else would spoilers so i'll stop there.
@@heather_doestruecrime it was just over rated woke commentaries skip bit tell you
@@adamantm8869 the kids name was zachary
He wasn't lying about Dear Zachary jeeezz. I watched it right after this video and was like "I don't think it'll be that bad, I can handle it".....I cried a whole waterfall of tears. If you feel like you need a cry and have a little anger toward an evil person you can go watch this film. But man, that was intense
I just finished watching it and I was wailing so hard. I went in blind, so it tooks some time before I understood that _that_ had actually happened. It broke my heart. I feel so bad for everyone who were affected by all this.
I saw this documentary years ago and I’m so glad that Mista GG brought it back to my memory, even though I cried the entire time I watched it. Still, sometimes you see a doc that’s so moving that you’re thankful for it, even though it’s so unbelievably sad.
My coworkers watched it one by one till they convinced me to watch it. They wouldn't tell me anything, so I also watched it coming in blind. I screamed at THAT part. I was so pissed, I was crying angry tears. Came in the next day like "WTF?!" They were like "RIGHT?!"
Man, just made me hate women more.
The jesus camp doc really hits me because…how do you do that to children? I went to a greek orthodox camp for a number of years and it was some of the best times of my life - it made me actually enjoy religion more because the religious aspects were boiled down to two masses a day and a short prayer over lunch and a few “free talks” with the priests during the stay - other than that we just enjoyed ourselves, had a fun time, it was just run of the mill middle school and high school fun with some religious experiences sprinkled throughout
Some churches and denominations just end up being lead by absolute nutjobs who are either fanatically insane or completely manipulative abusers. I'm glad I grew up with my local church that basically had none of the absurd fearmongering of normal things like Harry Potter or Pokemon and it saddens me to see how bad people had it in the comment section.
Christian Orthodox institutions are not as corrupted as other denominations are.
That's why I like them, they are more traditional and tolerant without feeling like a cult.
I feel the same with Catholic high school retreats. We had so much fun playing volleyball, singing folk songs, playing cards and board games, and being goofy. The priests and group leaders were both our supervisors and friends. We had praise and worship was my favorite part because we became vulnerable in front of God. These retreats grew my faith. I developed a relationship with God by the help of others. That’s why we need religion. It wasn’t just about rules. It’s about a relationship. Once you get a relationship, the rules make sense.
I still struggle with some Catholic teachings. Everyone has a problem with some of the rules. It’s normal. I’m also disgusted with the bad priests. I was so fortunate to have priest friends. The diocese in my area has 2+ young priests coming in per year. That’s saying something!
These Evangelicals make us Catholics and Orthodox look so bad.
Same experience with the churches here where we live. They gave a lot of us some lovely childhood memories.
I also went to a Greek Orthodox camp! I even went on to be a counselor for a number of years before life got in the way. That camp brought me closer to God than my actual church did, weirdly enough
The Act of Killing makes me think about Hannah Arendt’s idea about “The Banality of Evil”.
Evil deeds are not done by evil people. They’re performed by normal people who just refuse to engage with these actions that they do. They just refuse to think about it.
And these people are normal people who live lives similar to ours, they have families, go to the mall and try out ellipticals.
They just perform these evil deeds and then continue to live their lives.
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Yep, you can actually even see the difference with some specific characters in The Act of Killing and The Look of Silence. Most of the killers are pretty much just normal dudes who either don't think about what they've done or find ways to rationalize everything, however there are two or three men in the movies that are just built different and are much closer to what we may call 'evil' (while they probably still must have reasons which made them be that way, evil past the point of no return), and not because of exactly what they've done, but how the view what they've done, or how far they go, to the point of insanity, to rationalize their actions (specifically talking about the "blood guy" in the sequel)
They're definitely all evil
Well they might think of themselves as normal people and try to rationalize their heinous acts but no matter what they think of it, that action itself (murder) is what makes a normal person an evil one. Trying to rationalize evil is a something evil people do.
Nah it wasn't evil, they killed communists which is a good thing
It’s so crazy seeing people talk about Jesus camp. My whole life was like that until I was 17. I forgot honestly how bad it looks now that I’m “on the other side”
I'm guessing this was how your family was like. How did you manage to escape their grasp and mindset? And how did you cut them off?
I'm in no similar situation but I kind of have a hatred and fear for people like these
@@NeverExistedShadow13 it took something bad happening to me done by people at the church for my family to see that the place we went to was insane. My fam is low key still into it, but not to my face. I have a rough relationship with my family because of it, cuz they’re always hoping I’ll at least go to church somewhere else, but I’m far from a “kid on fire” anymore lol.
@@NeverExistedShadow13 they usually target single moms or people in dire financial straits, and drag them into the church. But you’re not allowed to leave, read books about other religions, and you HAD to participate. Pentecostal churches are super scary, especially as a kid.
I grew up the same. I went to "church camp" for years. I knew it was brain washing at the time I just didn't have words for it. I remember one week devoted to the dangers of rock and roll. Basically anything that wasn't church or Jesus related was sin.
@@mandird7952 we had the same but for rap music! It’s when 3 6 mafia and snoop dogg were big lol
I remember my dad didn’t want to buy us Harry Potter, not because of the whole wizard thing, but because he thought a story about a hairy guy who’s into pottery would be stupid. Ah shit I just remembered that when we first watched the movie and Hagrid kicked down the door my dad whispered to me “is that the hairy guy?”
My mother is awful with names and faces. She doesn’t know Daniel Radcliff’s name, but my dad loves the Harry Potter movies. Any time my mom sees a nondescript white guy with brown hair (bonus points if he’s wearing glasses) on TV or billboards, she’ll ask if that’s “Henry Potter.”
Not to mention the fact that my dad has a Gandalf tattoo because he loves LoTR. He’s had that tattoo since before the films came out. And like a year ago my mom pointed at it and said “That’s the Bumble-man guy, right? From your Henry Potter movies?” And wouldn’t back down when my dad said no, that his tattoo isn’t, in fact, dumbledoor.
wanna get "bts? saweetie? where's the ezekiel meal?!" as a chest piece
Dear Zachary is such a heartbreaking story. It’s one of those situations that reminds you how unfair and cruel life can be for no reason. All anyone in that story gained was endless grief.
Seeing the christmas pictures of Zachary and knowing what happened to him, it's just heartbreaking
Not only cruel and how life takes away all. But shows the insidious acts and red flag that lead to outcomes no one wishes.
Or how unfair the legal system is when it comes to women perpetrators.
At least they got the Canadian government to hopefully change some stuff
Honestly The Act of Killing was one of, if not my most, favorite documentaries I've ever watched. The frankness of their retelling of their acts, Anwars guilt hitting him mid shoot. Im not gonna lie, I smiled when he started dry heaving on the roof, I felt no sympathy for any of the individuals in that movie. A moment in history devoured by The Heart of Darkness
A true GOAT of the youtubes
First reply.
It's not on Netflix (in the US), but Three Identical Strangers is an interesting and I'd say heart wrenching documentary
On Netflix, Dirty John is a dramatization of a real life incident that was a originally told via podcast and it was genuinely terrifying
What happens in dirty john?
@@oo4758 Kendall Rae has a video about the dirty John story. It's insane!
I went in completely blind to Three Identical Strangers and it’s the first documentary I recommended to people now! It’s hard because you really should go into it blind but it’s just unbelievable
Three Identical Strangers is on the UK Netflix tho, just get a VPN n you’re good to go!
Three Identical Strangers is so sad!! I did not expect that twist in the middle, it felt like such a feel good documentary for the first half!!
I never would have found Dear Zachary without this video, and it broke me, from bringing up memories of losing my brother, to confronting the idea of losing friends, never knowing the little things in their lives I may never get to know, and breaking down throughout almost the entire movie from one heartbreaking piece to another. It makes you re-evaluate your relationships and consider what you might be missing out on, and for that I commend the friends and family that went through hell getting to the place to help those who need it, and you for bringing this to your viewers and presenting it in such a respectful and open way
There is a companion piece to The Act of Killing called "The Look of Silence" which follows a man whose brother was a victim of the 1965-66 Indonesia massacre. So if you do another 4 disturbing documentaries, maybe this could be on your radar?
I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear dre
@@AxxLAfriku yoo i remember u from 2018 ur vids r shit tho, keep up the good work
@@AxxLAfriku Oh no! Is the computer okay??
@@AxxLAfriku bro read the room this is kind of a fucked place to post your cringe copied self promo
In Jesus camp there’s a kid wearing a shirt that says “Jesus” in the Reese cup font. I found the shirt online and bought it. I then had to stop wearing it because I was stopped every time I wore it by Christians thanking me for spreading the word and blessing me. Too weird for me.
they can't appreciate a good shirt.
Same I bought this semi-Rasta tank from Spencer’s back in the day that had the big Jesus T pose statue from Rio blocking a soccer goal that said “JESUS SAVES”. Had to retire it after getting bible verses slung at me like I should know what they mean.
spooky
That's their way of complimenting you and appreciating you
@@damagedTNT52 damn that shirt sounds awesome. Id have to designate it to the house-only wardrobe though.
I don’t think Dear Zachary is just sad and disturbing. It also gives me faith in humanity and illustrates the indomitable human spirit. In that documentary you see one person who is sick and evil but also two people and who exude extreme kindness and love in the face of unimaginable tragedy. This is film took a blow torch to my cold heart and forced me to re-examine my cynicism. Whenever I feel like I’m at the end of my rope, I watch the last few minutes of that documentary.
So glad to see someone else say that. Yes, it was heart-breaking, but I was also overwhelmed with how much love all those surviving family members and friends have for each other.
hi, Indonesian here, thank you for taking the time to watch act of killing, it's one the profound history of indonesia but no one is talking about it. it was a witch hunt back in the day, my dad was one of the many witness of this period, he was still a kid at that time. he used to see floating bodies in the same river once or twice, it was said an accident.
This was during konfrontasi with Malaysia, right?
I watched Dear Zachary with a roommate on a completely random chance, it showed up in the queue we had on and by the end we both just sat in stunned silence.
It’s not disturbing in a traditional sense, but it’s an emotionally taxing story that will both destroy and restore your faith in humanity. Its old, from 2008 and it definitely shows its age, but I highly recommend it.
I just finished watching it and I feel so numb after it. I haven't sobbed like that in a while. Watched it after watching this video... what you said, 1000% accurate.
@@lekinova glad I read the comments before I watched the vid. I love gg but imma skip this one. Not interested in triggering another depressive episode when I finally feel a lil happy.
@@ggundercover3681 I’m only okay watching it because I’m on medication and at a really good point mental health wise right now - DONT watch it if you at all feel like you’re not ready because it…hurts
This movie was crazy sad and I feel so bad when I realize that the place where the mom drowned her kid was right next to where I live which is in Newfoundland and labrador
My grown ass was balling
Dude... I just finished watching Dear Zachary. Severely underestimated your claim of weeping and found myself in the same exact situation. I'm really glad you encouraged us to go watch it.
The Trials of Gabriel Fernandez was one of the most gut wrenching stories I’ve seen unfold, I may not be that well rounded in disturbing film or documentaries but as a seasoned true crime watcher. It’s one of the only stories that make me feel sick
i binge watched that whole doc series and i was literally nauseous at the end… i just sat there on my couch in disbelief
I can’t bring myself to watch it😭😭😭 That poor baby!
Back from Dear, Zachary. While it didn’t break me, it was very heartbreaking. Without saying anything, watch it. It hurts. It does. But it needs to be watched. It’s beautifully made. Heartbreakingly beautiful.
I watched Dear Zachary because of how you described it and I ended up pausing multiple times just to cry and did cried so much that I was literally dehydrated and had a massive headache, and then was straight up not okay for three days. The doc isn't that disturbing but it still manages to leave a massive effect that just stays with you.
“Why did you kill me” is pretty good but kind of unsatisfying in it’s presentation by the end imo. “The trials of Gabriel Fernandez” is also pretty brutal
“How to die in Oregon” and “There’s Something Wrong With Aunt Dianne” fucked me up real bad also.
How to die in Oregon fucked me up too… my dad died of brain cancer when I was a baby, and my grandma died of pancreatic cancer a few years ago, I was with her at her bedside when she passed. She suffered in pain for far too long. I have an extremely painful life-altering chronic illness and I am so grateful in Canada we have a death with dignity law. I was so happy for the people in the doc to be able to have that choice available for them!
I still think about that footage of Aunt Dianne wandering the aisles of the gas station just before the incident...
@@Zimuahaha I have a strange feeling about Dianne husband and sister in law i just felt those two were having an affair or something
The Act of Killing had me mesmerized from start to finish. I'll never forget it cause I've never seen anything like it. Real evil, real guilt, real denial. It was insane.
There is revenge, they too eager too revenge on communist, because several years ago the communist slaughter them too... But its still ruthless
Dear Zachary is one of my favorite documentaries. It's so heartbreaking but the love put into it is also so beautiful and inspiring.
My high school film as literature teacher told me and my classmates about Dear Zachary. He was the most emotionless human I had ever met but when he started talking about the film, he was visibly getting upset. I decided to watch it afterwards. I was not ready for the overwhelming onslaught of depression.
Okay. DEAR ZACHARY, is without a doubt, one of the best tributes to life and storytelling I have ever seen. I watched it over ten years ago for the first time, and have seen it many times since. Tragic story, very well told.
I’ll never forget my experience in a Christian preschool, my grandma gave me a Harry Potter toy of him riding a broomstick and I took it into class for show and tell only to be verbally attacked and yelled at by psycho older Christian women *cough* *cough* my teachers…. Pretty much from that point on I’ve abandoned all belief systems
Wait was it that vibrating broomstick that they had to take off shelves because people were turning it into sex toys?
I went to a Christian school growninh up and brought my pokemon cards one morning back in 4th grade. The teacher took them and tore them all up. It's not like I had them out in the middle of class either, it was during lunch. It's insane how religion will demonize certain things :/
@@ladycenobia5147 bet she wouldn’t have if she knew some of those would be worth thousands of dollars in the future!
not such a visceral cause but pretty much the reason I also abandoned all belief systems.
In my country, we have a class on Catholic studies and... The hate and vitriol those people possessed to everyone that was different. The victim complex. The lack of any concrete reasoning. It all made me so... Not even angry, just feeling so negative all the damn time I walked into that class. I got to know two things in those times;
1. God doesn't exist because if he did, he wouldn't let those people speak anything like that in his name.
2. And even if he does, I don't want to have anything to do with him.
@@panonymousbloom5405 its not god thats the issue, its the people who do things in his name incorrectly. Its quite disrespectful. Like for me, i believe in a cosmic flow of things and i believe in a higher power or a god. But what i disagree with a lot of the times are religions that try to be the “center” when there are hundreds of thousands of religions that claim the same thing. Then you have the people who do unholy or devious things that literally contradict their laws and beliefs.
Religion: I stay away from
Holy, Peaceful higher powers: I trust in
Already from the thumbnail, I see Dear Zachary which is heartbreaking. The book is just as heart-breaking. I am a HUGE documentary fan, especially true crime.
Grizzly Man was interesting, but I agree it was a long one.
3:27 i was raised in this church denomination for 20 years. to do something for the flesh means to do it for yourself or because you enjoy it. the flesh refers to your human body, which is, according to this religion, inherently sinful, wretched and filthy. anything you do for yourself in your body is filthy, which is why you need to do it with your focus and mindset on god.
As a Christian, anyone who pushes that kind of belief completely misses the point of Christianity.
I’ve watched far too many of these. “The Act of Killing” particularly spooked me. The men in that video were pure evil. Like, legit “Going to Hell and not giving a shit” evil. On the other side of that coin was “Jesus Camp”. I’ve seen some fucked up shit in my day, but those two docs freaked me the fuck out. **shivers**
The scary thing about religion is that if the child indoctrination by religion goes far enough, the children from Jesus Camp could easily grow up into being the people interviewed in The Act of Killing. The kids would be so damaged that they could kill in 'Jesus Name' and believe that they did nothing wrong and are gonna still go to heaven.
@@seanrosenau2088 You’re not wrong. Many people use the so-called “Word of God” to subjugate others to begin with, then they take more and more agency until it ultimately ends in slaughter.
@@seanrosenau2088 um. That’s very very very rare, and would only happen in fringe extremist groups. Yes it has/can happen, but most “Jesus camps” treat the children very well and don’t teach them that they can kill in God’s name. No one that believes that would be allowed a position of leadership in any modern church. I could see it happening with the more culty groups though.
@@snakesonaframe2668 it seems you don’t know a lot of churches then.
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No
There are groups far larger and worse than the one in ‘Jesus Camp’, and I’m sorry to say this, but if you honestly believe “modern” churches are immune to corruption and extremism then you’re just plain dumb.
You just say "Dear Zachary" and I start hysterically crying. It might be the saddest thing I've ever seen.
Same
Listening to the narrator breakdown crying when he talks about Zachary being killed is absolutely heartbreaking
I watched it years ago. I can't remember the whole story but I remember I cried and it ruined the rest of my day.
The soundtrack is one of the most beautiful yet heartbreaking things I've heard.
@@eyeslockedhandslocked1039 omg same!
I just watched Dear, Zachary and wow... yeah I'm gonna need a while to recover from that one. Such strong people David and Kate are, just wow.
I watch Dear Zachary at least twice a year, it is the perfect example of a “scrapbook documentary” that works, I love it because you will laugh at the funny memories his friends and family share and then you are on the floor crying your eyes out, I love it so much
Dear Zachary is so powerful the goddamn trailer alone brought people to tears. It's such an amazing documentary with a heartbreaking story that everyone should watch at least once.
I just watched "The Act of Killing" and the ending of that documentary truly rattled me. To see Anwar back at the place from the beginning where he danced so joyfully, gagging at the memories of what he's done... it will certainly stick with me for a long time.
Two I would recommend that are actually on TH-cam are “There’s something wrong with Aunt Diane” and “Just Melvin, just Evil”. Both can be considered rough watches for different reasons.
Just Melvin took me 3 days to watch, it's so heartbreaking to know such evil lives out there.
Those are pretty hard hitting. I’ll never forget the Diane one. Those poor kids.
I’m obsessed with the Diane Schuler case after watching that doc about 3 years ago, the husband is in so much denial 😐
@@eccohpeach6961 psychotic levels of denial - but then, how else would you go on after what happened? It’s a defense mechanism for a reason.
I just watched Wrinkles the Clown. Not as disturbing as these but a little unsettling. Like I lived in Florida when it was happening but somehow didn’t know about it..
I was cracking up hard at your McDonald's pun, but then I read "i'm losin it" and I lost my crap LMAOO GG I love your edits, man
One of sad thing about the movie "The Act Of Killing" is that the movie is not even being watched by the target audience, that is the Indonesian people. Yes there is some people knew it, but they are either a super nerdy history buff, or knew it from watching this type a video. The reason is first because there is no Indonesian content creator that brave enough to tell people about the movie because "The Winner" will probably makes you gone from the earth, second is people already getting their information of this tragedy from the winner side, it is being putted in history lesson in your school, there also government made movie called "g30s pki" that being played on 30th September every year, which telling their side of the story. Plus Indonesia already let's say move on from that history, there nothing you can't do about it anymore.
Dear Zachary.. Probably one of my favorites of all time, the emotion I when first watching it felt like the creator had me in the palm of his hand. I felt what he wanted me to feel all the time, didn't know what he didn't want me to know, and hated the people he wanted me to hate, all up until the end. truly a great doc.
Wasn't the bear that Mauled Timothy actually not one of the local ones at all? For some reason I remember hearing it was a vagrant bear, like sort of a "criminal bear" almost, encroaching on the territory and such.
It was a bear that hadn't managed to gain enough fat to hibernate so it was desperately trying to find food to survive the winter hibernation, so it was very dangerous and Timothy knew that bears out this late in the season were very dangerous yet he did everything that he knew you are 100% not supposed to do near any bear in this desperate state, he hid his tent in bushes, he stayed after the 'safer' season time was over and he encouraged the bear to go near him and his girlfriend! He knew enough about bears to u derstand that even 1 of these things was life threatening yet he did it all, he purposely put his and his girlfriends lives at risk and they both paid the ultimate price, even the bear was killed after the attack and the bear probably attacked them out of starvation and desperation as it wasn't fat enough to survive the winter so would of died anyway, to the bear they were both nothing more than food and I think it took a couple of days before the bear even attacked as it probably didn't know that it could eat them, Timothy had plenty of time to leave but didn't, why he did that only he knows, he knew he was risking his and his girlfriend and still did everything he did so maybe he had a death wish or a mental delusion that he was immune to bear attacks, we'll never know
Anyone interested in Timothy Treadwell should read the article 'Night of the Grizzly - A True Story Of Love And Death In The Wilderness'. The bear that killed them was one the pilot who usually picked Timothy up recognized, a bear with an ear tag aka bear #141, a bear Timothy named Ollie. Timothy knew this bear, and it had been in the area for a long time.
Heheheh... criminal bear. A bear bandit?
wow. if only that detail would make him less dead
Yeah, it was actually revealed that the bear that killed both him and his girl was actually just some random ass bear who was wandering around, and didn’t have any sort of experience with Treadwell. He happened to run into them, and seeing as how it was nearing Hibernation time, we know the rest. It wasn’t really him getting what was comin to him, but rather, him and his girl being at the wrong place at the wrong time
I watched dear Zachary because of your suggestion and I was so so sad for that poor family. They were so loved and I have never cried this hard at anything before. It was so horrible. I really appreciate you bringing awareness to me about their story and also retroactively keeping their memories alive. Rip.
Paused to watch “Dear Zachary.” Never felt such a feeling of dread as “that” specific moment.
After that specific moment I had to turn it off for a bit and come back. It was shocking
I literally got goosebumps again reading this comment because like…you just can’t imagine that it really happened. I was like “there’s no fucking way” After all that love and fighting from his family and it *still* happened
I watched the documentary years ago, and I STILL can remember the exact feeling that punched through my body at that point in the doc. I don't think I've ever felt anything like it before or since.
That "Christian" camp is terrifying, so much manipulation of children :(
Traumatizing. Those kids must have been so scared. They probably thought god was gonna punch through the ceiling any minute to smite them.
Agreed. I have ptsd from religious abuses complicated by the indoctrination - I was a 'sinner' for simply 'existing', & 'tempting' others to abuse me...
XOXO ❤💔
That’s simply modern religion tbh
@@horizonblack TY :) & Yeah - This is the only time I wish there were a mini-hell tbh. Just like 100 years of torture would be awesome.
But I fail to see evidence for anything magical so I expect there's nothing.
XO love & peace to you & yours, sweet cyber friendly stranger ❤
@@him1517 For American RW evangelicals anyhow.
I used to be faithful & never saw any of that in church. I even got sent to Jesus camp by my very religious aunt & it was just a normal camp but we had to say grace.
This being so common says a lot about how crazy people have become.
XO be safe
I went to watch "Dear Zachary" during the segment mid-video, going in completely blind, and it destroyed me. There is so little malice and so much hope during the whole documentary that it shatters you. I somehow happy cried and got goosebumps out of pure visceral rage within 40 minutes.
Dear Zachary is one of the most heartbreaking films I’ve ever watched. My sister literally screamed with rage towards the end.
That shit left me in hysterics. I don't think I can ever watch it again
The night terrors start when you realize each of those adults was once a child, and they never stood a chance. They didn't make any choice to lie to children or be hateful. This is how they were raised. They are simply reflections of their environments.
The Act Of Killing always fascinates me. Something about it is so grounding. It makes you think of your own mortality and morality as you hear these men speak on their crimes.
My sister was personal friends with Timothy Treadwell (the subject of Grizzly Man) and he was one of the kindest and most passionate people I had ever met. He inspired me so much to stand up for what I believe is right and was a huge reason why I started thinking differently about how animals are treated in the world and became an ardent proponent of animal rights activism. My mom, sister, Timothy and I had lunch together before one of his conferences, and he was just so genuine. When we heard the news about what happened to him (I think it was only a year or two after I met him), it was so heartbreaking, and it is even more heartbreaking to hear how some people talk about him. "He was crazy." "Oh, he should have known it would happen."
He trusted his bears, as they always behaved around him. It was an unfortunate circumstance. They were his friends, it's just that nature sometimes can't be controlled. That's what happened. It's just so sad.
Jesus Camp! JESUS CAMP. That docu has been a meme among my family members before memes were even a thing. We were raised religious but were never hardcore like that. Jesus Camp introduced religious extremism to me as a kid...”IF HARRY POTTER WERE ALIVE TODAY, HE WOULD BE PUT TO DEATH!”
Same goes for Grizzly Man to a lesser extent. We had a neighbour (loved animals, HATED people and tried to steal our dog) on our road we compared him to.
Jesus Camp made me physically sick.
As a Christian I really hate extremists like those people in Jesus Camp
I’m not a hardcore Christian either but Jesus camp is just disturbing and if anything that camp is the true evil they proclaim their trying to protect the kids from.
If Jesus camp infuriates you the watch “kidnapped for Christ” at least the Jesus camp kids were indoctrinated…
@@Carlosdreamur I’m almost afraid to considering how much JC angered me.
I've never seen Jesus Camp but I've actively avoided it after growing up in a homeschooling evangelical cult myself... I know its going to trigger me too brutally. Dear Zachary makes me cry when I think about it to this very day.
Fun fact I just learned: all warlocks are wizards but not all wizards are warlocks, a warlock is a wizard of great achievements or a really strong one. So harry was a wizard at the beginning and a warlock by the end of the series! The more you know!
Nah, the difference is that wizards use intelligence and warlocks use charisma. Wizards study books and warlocks have a patron god that grants them powers. This joke was brought to you by D&D, please play responsibly.
If we go by very old definitions, "warlock" used to mean a man who had broken his oath in old English, which came to mean a man who who denounced good and chose allegiance with evil powers.
A wizard gains his powers from magic, whereas a warlock gains them through demoni pacts
Yup
@@guidetoanything this comment is approved by the Warlock gang™
Usually when u recommend some of these disturbing films i never actually check em out cuz i have no interest in watching them myself... But somehow u convinced me to check out dear zachary smh.
The amount of tears that i shed watching this must be unhealty... The amount of overwhelming emotion.. All the rage and sadness this story made me experience was truly heart wrenching... I can't even imagine what this must have been like for Kate and Andrew, they must've been some incredibly strong people. My heart is with all of them. This story has genuinely left me devasted and speechless. RIP to Andrew and little Zachary😔♥ To think i'm only a couple months older than little zach...
I have clinical depression and I remember going to all kinds of churches and saying ‘if god loves me why would he make me feel this way?’ ‘If the devil did it why did god let him?’ They couldn’t explain it. I’m glad people go to church though, *some* good people go.
So happy to see dear Zachary being talked about, honestly one of my favorite docs. Another interesting one is 'There's Something Wrong with Aunt Diane, the last 10 minutes are what really make it memorable,
Right when you got to Dear Zachary, I immediately paused and watched the documentary, and... god that was a lot. Documentaries like this one (and all of the films you talked about in this video) are like the biggest slap in the face of how heavy reality is
What is the premise of this film? Nobody ever goes into detail, I need like a short synopsis. Certain things I watch effect me enough that my life would be in danger if it's sad enough. I don't want to go into it blind, or possibly at all ever.
@@seanrosenau2088 Spoilers Ahead:
A man named Andrew Bagby is killed by his girlfriend, Shirley Turner, who then flees to Newfoundland while pregnant with his son Zachary, leaving his family to mourn. Andrews parents, David and Kathleen, move to Newfoundland in order to pursue justice in the interest of their grandson. Long story very much short, Turner is let out on bail as a result of a gross oversight in the Canadian legal system. Not long after, she kills herself along with one-year-old Zachary.
@@rickeydart3040 OKAY WTF
@@rickeydart3040 I Remeber watching this and got so mad
@@Lumieremakesmusic82 Yeah it's fucked.
I’m so happy I came across your channel, love your content.
Dear Zachary - isn’t disturbing, just absolutely heartbreaking and sad.
I grew up in a Pentecostal Christian household where my parents did a lot of the “weird Christian things”, but they never expected me or my sister to act that way. They only ever explained why they did that or acted weird when we asked them about it. I also attended a lot of church camps growing up but they weren’t really like the one in Jesus Camp. They were more about emotional healing, growing closer to God and being more confident in your faith. Which I believe even now as an adult are all good things. I think there’s a big difference between teaching and manipulating and the people in the Jesus Camp doc were super manipulative.
I agree. I grew up Catholic and I also went to a few retreats. None of it was like Jesus camp except for some minor things. My whole Catholic experience was different. Inside the Catholic church we're calm and we don't jump up and yell or sing loudly. When I was in youth group they fed us free dinner because it was in the evening and then we did small group where we talked about our day and how God can help us get through things as well as standard lessons. At my Catholic camp we did mass and played alot of fun games without the topic of God constantly being hammered on us. We did do some "weird" things like adoration where we had to kneel on the floor for an hour and kids would cry and laugh because they'd get so into it because of the presence of Christ. I'm not Catholic anymore though because I think I want to be Protestant now. But back to the film I feel like they were trying to make christians look like brainwashing malevolent people when majority are not. My parents were pretty casual with it too and I'm that way as well. Too much of anything isn't good
I honestly saw this way to much growing up in rural east Texas, in the bible belt. I grew up a Christian but overtime distanced myself from it but the church my grandmother raised me and my siblings in was a very similar and toxic environment. Saying things like we won't make it to 18 cause the tribulation and pumping up the brimstone and fire. I did find one church next to my school that I found community with. Although we stopped going when they protested one of our friends (a fellow church goer) from being in my band because they thought a band would lead to nothing but sin unless it was a worship band. So I cut ties with them. After all that I just went my own way cause it was always for God and never for you with those kind of people. At the end of the day just believe what you want but realize others don't live or believe the same way and unfortunately we see people of every race and religion doing this not just a section of Christians. we just gotta be the example cause we all beautiful people!!
"growing closer to God and being more confident in your faith"...that's called delusion lol
@@Chris-ci8vs Thats a very judge mental and closed minded reply of you to make.
@@sloppybunz7229 it's called reality...
Dear Zachary honestly had me in shock, it's so good the way Kurt pulls you in and then gives you hard sucker punches of disturbance. Great movie, but very emotionally gripping
oh man i’m planning on watching it tonight after i finish work n idk if i’m emotionally ready
I COLLAPSED at that one part of Dear Zachary and was absolutely NOT OK for at least an hour. You know what part.
I do love how everyone who’s seen the doc has the same recommendation afterward: “Watch it. Oh my god, you have to see it. I’m not going to tell you anything about it, but you need to know it will fuck you up. It will destroy you for a while, it’ll leave you with an impotent anger that will follow you the rest of your life, but you need to watch it anyway.”
A professor of mine is related to the crew that shot the act of killing. The dry heave scene was shot much earlier than the dancing one, they edited it like that to "enhance" the narrative. The director also made another doc on the same subject, but focusing on the victims instead. Check it out!
Okay, I just finished watching Dear Zachary, and holy shit I'm still bawling my eyes out. I'm so fucking glad they passed Zachary's Bill so no child has to endure this ever again. Fuck dude, that was just... heartbreaking.
9:41 this sounds like a lucifer valentine movie.
My Fiancée and I were watching this and something compelled me to pause the video and watch “Dear Zachary”.
Wow, what a powerful experience. The raw emotion conveyed in it is wild to say the least. Thanks so much for the recommendation Mista GG, you shared such an important story.
Paused the video after hearing what you said for Dear Zachery to give it a watch. I highly suggest to anyone who hasn't seen it, definitely give it a watch.
It's such a heart-wrenching doc, it shows some of the worst of humanity but also it showed some of the best too. I was already crying halfway through, Kurt done an amazing job with the documentary so much love went into it.
the act of killing is genuinely one of my favourite films of all time. it's utterly mesmerising and just so raw. it's stuck with me since i first watched it.