I have the MKZ hybrid. Driving between suburbia and Manhattan I get between 40 and 50 mpg's. It's not the speediest car off the line but around here, with all the traffic, who needs speedy! Very comfortable. Nice controls. With the fold-down rear seats I don't mind that the trunk isn't that big. Plus, from the front, the rear, and especially in profile, it doesn't look like anything else.
Really like that lincoln front end. The double wing grille really didn't do it for me, but if they give the mkx this styling, I'd be on it. I really think they are stepping up their game and differentiating them like GM has with cadillac.
Now that's taking one for the team, doing this video in the rain. You didnt miss a step. Great professional criteria met in all your videos. You rarely miss any details worth noting. Gives a trustworthy score of 9.9/10....
This guy REALLY knows his cars. I love that he speaks quickly. I am 6’4” and fit great in the front (rear is tight). The MKZ is the best looking of its class, too.
Best MKZ I've seen to date. There's a lot to like in this car. It looks fantastic IMHO, which I suspect we have the Jaguar connection to thank for that. I'm wondering if maybe the MKZ adopted those bladder sears from Jag as well? So choice! Love the push button transmission controls, that really cleans up the dash IMHO. No shift lever or stank to deal with. And for once, the price isn't over the top! But geez...that generic 6-speed. Once again, LIncoln finds itself slightly behind the curve, in a segment where the competition is tight. Once that new transmission ships, the 400-horse plant will be truly fearsome. I would NOT get the hybrid for sure, of this or any brand. But Alex is right. That Cadenza is hard to beat for price. I think if I wanted to go American, I'd save up a little more money and get that new Caddy sedan ( not the SUV). I spaced the model, but the newest one seems very intriguing to me. The price of that car climbs quickly from the base, but the base is the best value IMHO. Anyway, again I"d at least wait for the new transmission on the Lincoln.
Great review. Best reviewer on cars I have seen thus far. Completely thorough and answered all my questions regarding MKZ Hybrid vs ES 300h. Will definitely look forward to getting a Lincoln when I'm in the market for a new car.
I love my 2015 hybrid mkz. It's very nice! Absolutely LOVE IT. I find it to have enough power to satisfy me also. The front seats are BOMB, I have a fractured tailbone and it's so comfy. I love the massage. The heat doesnt work that good in the seat
Probably the most underrated/overlooked car in the segment. Because it's a Lincoln, it carries a lot of stigma and perception with it that unfortunately keeps a lot of people from taking it seriously.
Got a 2013 mkz hybrid with 62k miles for $8301 usd. It's such a beauty. It's a light blue color with beige interior and panoramic sunroofs. Such an upgrade from my 2009 elantra
Love the car's design. I wish more cars would have their taillights go the width of the car (and maybe a slight wrap-around). Reminds me of Buicks from the late 1980s
EXCELLENT REVIEW! I will never waste time watching reviews by others on youtube or anywhere else! I cannot believe that there is even one thumbs-down to this review!!! WTH?!
Great review Alex! Heres my 2 cents... If you dont care about depreciation, want luxury and tech, and are looking for the most bang for your buck, then look no further than this Lincoln. I recently picked up a 2017 with almost EVERYthing in it for under 30k! No its not a Black Label, I settled for FWD, the entry level Revel audio system (14 speakers and still incredible), and the 2.4l 4 turbo (still great low end torque), but every other check mark was checked. On top of all that I got the CPO 6k 100k comprehensive. warranty. There are deals to be had right now that will net you an incredible feature laden car for less money than the competition. To put things in perspective, Ive owned a lot of cars, including this cars near competitors...the Audi A6, MB E350, BMW 535i xDive, Kia Cadenza (1st gen) just to name a few... Save for the Cadenza most of those cars drove better, and had a higher amount of luxury and cache (again, save for the Cadenza), but NONE of these vehicles matched the luxury amenity levels of style and tech the Lincoln provides unless youre willing to spend a LOT more money. The delta between the Lincoln and those cars is close enough that in the end it wont matter...to me anyway. I enjoy driving, and Ive owned 4 BMWs, and nothing, NOTHING drives like a BMW, but I wanted a car to future proof me tech wise and still provide the luxury Ive been accustomed to...this 2017 MKZ fit the bill. Price and spec wise its be hard to beat right now as Im not going to spend 40 to 60k for a comparable German car. Also...I looked at the new Cadenza...looked at it long and hard, and it matches the MKZ feature set spec for spec (save for AWD). I had the previous model and loved it, and the new look took its refinement and content to the next lev,...so Alex was right, looking at just value its a winner...BUT, me personally, I felt the look/style and percieved cache of the Lincoln was the differentiator... for ME. I dont get hung up on brands too much (hence owning a Kia) but I do have a soft spot for Ford and Lincoln. I'ved owned an Expedition, and a Navigtor, and recently my wife had the MKT...and I never had an issue or problem with any of those vehicles (Ive had Cadlillacs too, and had problemes!). I agree that Lincoln has lost its way over the years, but theyve coaxed me back in! With the new Continental, Navigator, Nautilus (re-named MKX) and the MKZ (soon to be renamed) I think Lincoln is on to something. Now, I WILL go back to BMW eventually, but for now its the MKZ for me! That my 2 cents...!
I love the hybrids so far. I owned a 2011 and now a 2016 MKZ hybrid. I just wish my 2016 had the Sync3 with Android Auto. But other than that I'm very happy and see very little difference with the 2017 models. I didn't realize my tire size is probably keeping me from getting better gas mileage, but I always felt my braking was top notch so I can live with the Delta. As always an excellent review.
@@burberrycurry7517 They just said that because they thought American car is a piece of junk. Maybe Chrysler and GM but Ford/Lincoln did a good job making car.
@@burberrycurry7517 58 grand is a lot of money to pay for a car that for some reason is only worth 29,000 after one year. I think it's sort of an everyman luxury car. I like that Lincoln makes an affordable luxury car. It's beautiful, drives smooth as silk, and has a lot of useful features. If I could change one thing, it would be the gears. I don't like the placement, and I like the gearshift handle. The placement makes it easier to accidentally bump it and shift into park or reverse going down the road. You can absolutely destroy a transmission that way. But situational awareness can eliminate that. I bought the select model and it comes in on Friday. I've test driven the mkz and knew I had to have it.
THIS is the perfect lincoln. not the 3.0 engine, the hybrid. Yuo don't need horsepower for this kind of car. All you need is a quiet and comfortable ride, with nice interiors.
I mostly agree but a little horsepower is nice. I have the 2016 with the 3.7 and I enjoy the performance while being comfortable. I like the front end of the 2017+ models better though lol. May trade mine in for the 3.0t although I like hearing the exhaust of the cyclone engine lol. Can’t have it all!!
This car lost me when you said it's got significant wind noise. Great review! If I bought one, I'd opt for the 2.0T AWD. I have the 2012 MKZ with AWD--it's nice, but I've wished for a softer ride and less ambient noise. It sounds like, despite the rocketing price and packed-in features, they still do not have it quiet and comfortable enough. I like and need the fold down rear seat, which is why I didn't go one model higher. I don't need the most powerful engine, but I do need AWD. I love a quiet interior and a great sound system. My ideal: this car in black and chrome with 2.0, AWD, hard top (no roof glass), premium sound without Sirius/XM (I dislike that company), tan leather interior, narrower, 16-inch wheels for a quieter, softer ride.
I test drove a 2019 MKZ hybrid and my decibel measurements showed it was 3x quiet or 9db than my daily driver. That being said, the 2018 v6 camry XLE was 2x quieter or 6db on average in my testing back to back.
Alex completely agree on your picks. I would only have the MKZ ahead of the Cadenza if they made the Black Label standard on it so It topped out at $45k. That would be a steal. As is, the Cadenza interior is far greater than the Lincoln without the black label leather for far less. Cadenza for me
Hi Alex, Thanks for yet another detailed and thoughtful review. I was surprised to see you road noise score as a B, though. I am familiar with this car and it is very quiet. I am wondering what the road conditions were during your test. Wet pavement and tires will definitely increase the road noise compared to when they are dry. Also, were you on the "gas" while taking your measurement? I know it is quite hilly where you live. :-)
I noticed his test car is running on the larger 19" wheels and in my experience the 18" wheels lower road noise, raise the fuel economy, and smooth out the ride all in modest amounts but make the slight improvement in handling with the larger wheels a poor value in my book.
Nice work. I always appreciate your evaluations and how you compare the subject car against competitors. This one was especially helpful as I'm shopping LIncoln and Audi. No longer needing to look at Lexus. Thanks.
Skyhawk1987Turbo Thank you! And although the first car ever made technically was by Karl Benz, it was Señor Henry Ford who had the vision to actually mass produce the Automobile so that all can enjoy driving car's which in return gave way to this great lifestyle of which we know now as true car enthusiast/car junkies! Yup!
Great Review Alex. I like the updated front end on this Lincoln. However, the rear end should have gotten a better update. This updated Lincoln in the AWD 3.0T will make a nice CPO buy in about 2-3 years
This is a fantastic car, my only dislike on the old one was the Baleen Whale grille and they've fixed that beautifully. Even though this hybrid system is now almost a decade old, it's still one of the best. Super smooth and quiet, 30+ MPG all day even if you beat the shit out of it, and plenty of power. I grew up with 80s and 90s cars - 7.8 0-60 still seems "fast" to me, haha
SInce it hasn't stopped raining here in CA for a while, the next few videos will be dodging raindrops as well LOL. I think the F-Pace may be the wettest we've filmed.
i like this review and the arrow on the side showing what part of the review its at. Don't know if its possible but making the arrow move to denote where it is in relation to the section would help people that want to jump sections.
Just a note. Toyota and Ford share cross patent licensing with their hybrid systems. But of course, that is intellectual properties. In real life, they build their own hybrid unit independently.
Yep. The Toyota, GM and Ford planetary hybrid systems are all closely related in terms of design but no actual parts are shared. The new Chrysler system is also related in terms of general design but it's a little farther apart than Voltec2, the latest HSD in the Prius Prime or the Ford hybrid units.
I wish Ford instead of bailing out on passenger vehicles had worked to improve them. I thought they had some promising ideas that just needed to be fine-tuned.
I actually get intrigued when you said the MKZ handles better than the TLX. American luxury cars are getting better in the handling department. I'm curious to the 3.0 GTDI, but the fact it chugs Premium fuel like a V8 is scary.
Good review Alex +Alex on Autos but you didn't go over the buttons on the right side of the radio! I wanted to know what the "auto hold" button is for!
Again, front seats in high trim Lincolns are cooled, not merely ventilated like other cars. They circulate cooled air. How do you overlook this detail every time on Ford/Lincoln products?
Ray Foster My Fusion Platinum also has air cooled and heated seats. Two cars are almost identical. I do like the Lincoln styling much better. Preferred Lincoln. Limited Lincoln dealers sent me to Ford. Easier to service.
Hi Alex. You should consider to do reviews on PCs, open another channel and let's say call it Alex on PCs whatever. You will get at least 10x more subs than reviewing cars and I can see you have the potential to become one of the best PCs reviewers on TH-cam.
As always, GREAT review Alex. A couple of points.. you mentioned update to the rear end, I don't think much has changed there..it's always had the horizontal LED strip, etc. I would strongly consider this car new, but for a used car buyer, the MKZ is a huge bargain as they tend to lose quite a bit of value.
Man you just love the Kia. I drove one and fell in love with it. I do hate that the rear seats wont fold down. That should be an easy fix. Kia really needs to tweak this car to match the market. Im leaning towards the lincoln however. I ran into a guy on reddit who is a Lincoln salesman. So it was nice to pick his brain before i even step foot in the dealer.
Underrated car, but I hate the new tacked-on grille. The old grille was way better. Strange that they gave this a facelift, but did not make the transmission competitive 1:40 Love the sleek, aggressive profile.
Alex, I spoke with a couple Ford reps at the Chicago Auto Show about this last week. Neither would commit to when / where / or even if the new 9-speed would show up. Curious whether compatibility problems are still being ironed out with regard to their turbo engines.
My respect and admiration ☺ for the grill on the Lincoln MKX 2016 is because when I look at it has the appearance of angel wings. Giving the grill a celestial style 😇 to the front bumper 🚘 of the luxury vehicle.
AlexonAutos ….perhaps the best, thorough yet succinct car reviews…he gets to the point which I appreciate….many car review channels are filled with fluff and guys wildly flailing there arms as they review….
Another thing to keep in mind in deciding in brands….and that is badge ID….face it…you will be judged differently if you are driving a Lincoln or Lexus compared to a KIA. It’s just human nature. It may not be important to you, but it will affect resale.
Hey Alex, after watching quite a bunch of your videos, I started to wonder do you know any mid size luxury car that handles worse than Acura TLX? Because it looks like all the other brands handles better than the Acura TLX even in SH-AWD trim according to your reviews.
What about comparing this to the 2017 Buick LaCrosse?? It fits into this large Premium sedan market! But I gotta say, you really love that Kia Cadenza and I don't blame you!
You should've mention the Accord Hybrid and the Camry Hybrid as competition as well. They might not be as luxurious BUT they probably sell more units than the Fusion and MKZ added together. And are significantly cheaper. I wish. You'd stop comparing Lincoln to BMW's and Mercedes' that's ludicrous.
I have a 2016 Fusion Hybrid; in average everyday driving, I get in the mid 40s mpg all the time. Only in the middle of winter with the heater on is my mpg in the 30s. I wouldn't trade 10 mpg for a fancier interior.
The V6 in the Lexus ES does 0-60 in about 6 seconds, so I don't know how you did that with the base Lincoln 4 banger. The Lexus is lighter with more gears, and that V6 is hearty
I'm not sure what you mean, the Lexus ES still uses the older 6-speed Aisin transmission Toyota/Lexus has been very cautious about rolling out the 8-speed so far. The MKZ is heavier, but the delta is under 160 lbs. Toyota's own stated 0-60 time for the ES 350 is 7.1 seconds.
Great review. You certainly have a way with words. Unfortunately I wish you had compared a fully loaded Black Label 2017 MKZ with the 2017 Fusion Platinum rather than a generic mkz vs fusion. Feature by feature the highest end versions of these two automobiles seem to be a match, minus the extended warranty and free car washes, etc with the Black Label MKZ. I own a 2017 Fusion Platinum and I'm very happy with it and would enjoy listening to your opinions on it vs the competition. Probably the only other vehicle I would look at in the future is a Black Label MKZ, provided Ford still makes them.
Just got approved for my reserve I cant be more than happy cause i willl have thenonly unique panoremic roof that actually opens the entire thing and not just half of the roof
I drove one of these and a crossover could never make strides so smoothly over asphalt. The interior space is acceptable. Overall the vehicle dynamics are superior to suvs. Sadly there's no 3rd generation mkz.
If Lincoln wants to be taken seriously, they must up their game. The Black Label package should be standard fare on the 3.0TT Mkz. Use real aluminum, higher grade plastics and go all out. Lincoln has a lot of potential but whoever is in charge needs to get his/her head out of their ass and work.
Compared to my 2008 MKC- 6 Cycl? Mine is a lot Faster( Pocket Rocket) but ararely did more than 30 mph( per my On board Computer) and 18/27 MPG in my 2008=Gas..I rented a Hybrid for a week of Driving up here in SE Wisconson.( Local ave is 25 mph and Country is 60 mph) Ened up buying a Used Rental 2017 MKC Hybrid( The One I rented !16k off New Price = $21k + 5% taxes =$22k.. with a Optional 75k mi warty thru the Local Lincoln Dealer..for only $300..to me? Well worth it..My 08'? Sold it Locally for $6k and gave the buyer a 30 warranty( didin;t need it ! and I spent $3k on my 08' a Yr earlier and had it full restored ( Tires, Brakes, Shocks, tie Rods, Ball Joints ) had 69.4k miles on it..> Top Retail Condition. I think the MKZ Hybrid is a Excellent choise for my Kind of Low miles driving( use it for our Summer Home in Wi. but use a Used-205 STS at our Fla Twnhme( Got our Cad from a former ( Now Deceased) Neighbor with only 16k miles on it and at 1/2 Price.
You have such amazing reviews! The professional quality you offer is hard to find. Good job!
I have the MKZ hybrid. Driving between suburbia and Manhattan I get between 40 and 50 mpg's. It's not the speediest car off the line but around here, with all the traffic, who needs speedy! Very comfortable. Nice controls. With the fold-down rear seats I don't mind that the trunk isn't that big. Plus, from the front, the rear, and especially in profile, it doesn't look like anything else.
Always look forward to your videos - the level of detail that you go to in your reviews is remarkable. Keep it up. :)
Really like that lincoln front end. The double wing grille really didn't do it for me, but if they give the mkx this styling, I'd be on it. I really think they are stepping up their game and differentiating them like GM has with cadillac.
This car looks like a fkn Hyundai, or a Ford fusion. They should've done better tbh
As an owner of a 2017 MKZ with the AWD 400hp option I agree with your review in every respect, great review.
Now that's taking one for the team, doing this video in the rain. You didnt miss a step. Great professional criteria met in all your videos. You rarely miss any details worth noting. Gives a trustworthy score of 9.9/10....
This guy REALLY knows his cars. I love that he speaks quickly. I am 6’4” and fit great in the front (rear is tight). The MKZ is the best looking of its class, too.
Best MKZ I've seen to date. There's a lot to like in this car. It looks fantastic IMHO, which I suspect we have the Jaguar connection to thank for that. I'm wondering if maybe the MKZ adopted those bladder sears from Jag as well? So choice! Love the push button transmission controls, that really cleans up the dash IMHO. No shift lever or stank to deal with. And for once, the price isn't over the top! But geez...that generic 6-speed. Once again, LIncoln finds itself slightly behind the curve, in a segment where the competition is tight. Once that new transmission ships, the 400-horse plant will be truly fearsome. I would NOT get the hybrid for sure, of this or any brand. But Alex is right. That Cadenza is hard to beat for price. I think if I wanted to go American, I'd save up a little more money and get that new Caddy sedan ( not the SUV). I spaced the model, but the newest one seems very intriguing to me. The price of that car climbs quickly from the base, but the base is the best value IMHO. Anyway, again I"d at least wait for the new transmission on the Lincoln.
Great review. Best reviewer on cars I have seen thus far. Completely thorough and answered all my questions regarding MKZ Hybrid vs ES 300h. Will definitely look forward to getting a Lincoln when I'm in the market for a new car.
I love my 2015 hybrid mkz. It's very nice! Absolutely LOVE IT. I find it to have enough power to satisfy me also. The front seats are BOMB, I have a fractured tailbone and it's so comfy. I love the massage. The heat doesnt work that good in the seat
Hi, have you compared it with a Lexus ES/GS before buying it?
Great honest reviews. Rare in today's world of TH-cam reviewers. Thanks so much!!!
The Trunk comfort index cracked me up lol, great review
Probably the most underrated/overlooked car in the segment. Because it's a Lincoln, it carries a lot of stigma and perception with it that unfortunately keeps a lot of people from taking it seriously.
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Got to love the depreciation on these, 3 years later and tons of CPO models for under $30k.
Just got a 2017 one for 25k that sucks because it’s sucks a beautiful car
Got a 2013 mkz hybrid with 62k miles for $8301 usd. It's such a beauty. It's a light blue color with beige interior and panoramic sunroofs. Such an upgrade from my 2009 elantra
not anymore
Love the car's design. I wish more cars would have their taillights go the width of the car (and maybe a slight wrap-around). Reminds me of Buicks from the late 1980s
EXCELLENT REVIEW! I will never waste time watching reviews by others on youtube or anywhere else! I cannot believe that there is even one thumbs-down to this review!!! WTH?!
Great review Alex! Heres my 2 cents... If you dont care about depreciation, want luxury and tech, and are looking for the most bang for your buck, then look no further than this Lincoln. I recently picked up a 2017 with almost EVERYthing in it for under 30k! No its not a Black Label, I settled for FWD, the entry level Revel audio system (14 speakers and still incredible), and the 2.4l 4 turbo (still great low end torque), but every other check mark was checked. On top of all that I got the CPO 6k 100k comprehensive. warranty. There are deals to be had right now that will net you an incredible feature laden car for less money than the competition. To put things in perspective, Ive owned a lot of cars, including this cars near competitors...the Audi A6, MB E350, BMW 535i xDive, Kia Cadenza (1st gen) just to name a few... Save for the Cadenza most of those cars drove better, and had a higher amount of luxury and cache (again, save for the Cadenza), but NONE of these vehicles matched the luxury amenity levels of style and tech the Lincoln provides unless youre willing to spend a LOT more money. The delta between the Lincoln and those cars is close enough that in the end it wont matter...to me anyway. I enjoy driving, and Ive owned 4 BMWs, and nothing, NOTHING drives like a BMW, but I wanted a car to future proof me tech wise and still provide the luxury Ive been accustomed to...this 2017 MKZ fit the bill. Price and spec wise its be hard to beat right now as Im not going to spend 40 to 60k for a comparable German car. Also...I looked at the new Cadenza...looked at it long and hard, and it matches the MKZ feature set spec for spec (save for AWD). I had the previous model and loved it, and the new look took its refinement and content to the next lev,...so Alex was right, looking at just value its a winner...BUT, me personally, I felt the look/style and percieved cache of the Lincoln was the differentiator... for ME. I dont get hung up on brands too much (hence owning a Kia) but I do have a soft spot for Ford and Lincoln. I'ved owned an Expedition, and a Navigtor, and recently my wife had the MKT...and I never had an issue or problem with any of those vehicles (Ive had Cadlillacs too, and had problemes!). I agree that Lincoln has lost its way over the years, but theyve coaxed me back in! With the new Continental, Navigator, Nautilus (re-named MKX) and the MKZ (soon to be renamed) I think Lincoln is on to something. Now, I WILL go back to BMW eventually, but for now its the MKZ for me! That my 2 cents...!
Until you said that you will go back to BMW, you sounded like you truly know about cars or have some sense/taste about them.
I don't think they made a 2.4L turbo. :)
Subaru drives nice
I love the hybrids so far. I owned a 2011 and now a 2016 MKZ hybrid. I just wish my 2016 had the Sync3 with Android Auto. But other than that I'm very happy and see very little difference with the 2017 models. I didn't realize my tire size is probably keeping me from getting better gas mileage, but I always felt my braking was top notch so I can live with the Delta. As always an excellent review.
Gorgeous car looks more expensive than what it really is.
I think they should just cancel the cheap options. I just bought a Lincoln MKZ Reserve II at 58,000 but people might think think it’s a cheap 36k base
@@burberrycurry7517 They just said that because they thought American car is a piece of junk. Maybe Chrysler and GM but Ford/Lincoln did a good job making car.
@@burberrycurry7517 58 grand is a lot of money to pay for a car that for some reason is only worth 29,000 after one year. I think it's sort of an everyman luxury car. I like that Lincoln makes an affordable luxury car. It's beautiful, drives smooth as silk, and has a lot of useful features. If I could change one thing, it would be the gears. I don't like the placement, and I like the gearshift handle. The placement makes it easier to accidentally bump it and shift into park or reverse going down the road. You can absolutely destroy a transmission that way. But situational awareness can eliminate that. I bought the select model and it comes in on Friday. I've test driven the mkz and knew I had to have it.
THIS is the perfect lincoln. not the 3.0 engine, the hybrid. Yuo don't need horsepower for this kind of car. All you need is a quiet and comfortable ride, with nice interiors.
Exactly, built for Luxury not for speed as Lincoln's alessia been built for for many years.
Davis Winn facts! I have one and love it.
Julz23 : Just purchased mine and it’s great!
Lyle Williams congratulations! Enjoy!
I mostly agree but a little horsepower is nice. I have the 2016 with the 3.7 and I enjoy the performance while being comfortable. I like the front end of the 2017+ models better though lol. May trade mine in for the 3.0t although I like hearing the exhaust of the cyclone engine lol. Can’t have it all!!
This car lost me when you said it's got significant wind noise. Great review! If I bought one, I'd opt for the 2.0T AWD. I have the 2012 MKZ with AWD--it's nice, but I've wished for a softer ride and less ambient noise. It sounds like, despite the rocketing price and packed-in features, they still do not have it quiet and comfortable enough. I like and need the fold down rear seat, which is why I didn't go one model higher. I don't need the most powerful engine, but I do need AWD. I love a quiet interior and a great sound system. My ideal: this car in black and chrome with 2.0, AWD, hard top (no roof glass), premium sound without Sirius/XM (I dislike that company), tan leather interior, narrower, 16-inch wheels for a quieter, softer ride.
What did you end up finding that had a soft comfortable ride and quiet cabin?
Like this man's video, he doing the review in the rain. #respect
I test drove a 2019 MKZ hybrid and my decibel measurements showed it was 3x quiet or 9db than my daily driver. That being said, the 2018 v6 camry XLE was 2x quieter or 6db on average in my testing back to back.
Alex completely agree on your picks. I would only have the MKZ ahead of the Cadenza if they made the Black Label standard on it so It topped out at $45k. That would be a steal. As is, the Cadenza interior is far greater than the Lincoln without the black label leather for far less. Cadenza for me
Hi Alex, Thanks for yet another detailed and thoughtful review. I was surprised to see you road noise score as a B, though. I am familiar with this car and it is very quiet. I am wondering what the road conditions were during your test. Wet pavement and tires will definitely increase the road noise compared to when they are dry. Also, were you on the "gas" while taking your measurement? I know it is quite hilly where you live. :-)
I noticed his test car is running on the larger 19" wheels and in my experience the 18" wheels lower road noise, raise the fuel economy, and smooth out the ride all in modest amounts but make the slight improvement in handling with the larger wheels a poor value in my book.
Autoholics Anonymous I opted for 18" wheels over 19" on my Ford Escape for those exact reasons.
Nice work. I always appreciate your evaluations and how you compare the subject car against competitors. This one was especially helpful as I'm shopping LIncoln and Audi. No longer needing to look at Lexus. Thanks.
Beautiful car! And al,l of you ford/Lincoln haters, keep your comments out
Skyhawk1987Turbo Thank you! And although the first car ever made technically was by Karl Benz, it was Señor Henry Ford who had the vision to actually mass produce the Automobile so that all can enjoy driving car's which in return gave way to this great lifestyle of which we know now as true car enthusiast/car junkies! Yup!
Ikr! How can you hate this car, its stunning!
Well said.
Can you get a loaded Continental with the 400hp 3.0 and AWD?
Great stuff!
Can't wait to see it Alex
Thank you so much for this review, it has been the most comprehensive one I've seen!
It sucks that Fusion is going out of production, I'm afraid MKZ will go with it. 😥
love this channel. thank you!
Great Review Alex. I like the updated front end on this Lincoln. However, the rear end should have gotten a better update. This updated Lincoln in the AWD 3.0T will make a nice CPO buy in about 2-3 years
This is a fantastic car, my only dislike on the old one was the Baleen Whale grille and they've fixed that beautifully. Even though this hybrid system is now almost a decade old, it's still one of the best. Super smooth and quiet, 30+ MPG all day even if you beat the shit out of it, and plenty of power. I grew up with 80s and 90s cars - 7.8 0-60 still seems "fast" to me, haha
Alex Bravo for doing this in the rain.
SInce it hasn't stopped raining here in CA for a while, the next few videos will be dodging raindrops as well LOL. I think the F-Pace may be the wettest we've filmed.
Oh, but you are one of the best reviewers out there. Keep up the good work, your a step above them all...
i like this review and the arrow on the side showing what part of the review its at. Don't know if its possible but making the arrow move to denote where it is in relation to the section would help people that want to jump sections.
Just a note. Toyota and Ford share cross patent licensing with their hybrid systems. But of course, that is intellectual properties. In real life, they build their own hybrid unit independently.
Yep. The Toyota, GM and Ford planetary hybrid systems are all closely related in terms of design but no actual parts are shared. The new Chrysler system is also related in terms of general design but it's a little farther apart than Voltec2, the latest HSD in the Prius Prime or the Ford hybrid units.
I wish Ford instead of bailing out on passenger vehicles had worked to improve them. I thought they had some promising ideas that just needed to be fine-tuned.
I actually get intrigued when you said the MKZ handles better than the TLX. American luxury cars are getting better in the handling department.
I'm curious to the 3.0 GTDI, but the fact it chugs Premium fuel like a V8 is scary.
love that grill, and interior is very decent but not alot of room in back and head space
Good review Alex +Alex on Autos but you didn't go over the buttons on the right side of the radio! I wanted to know what the "auto hold" button is for!
My two gripes about this MKZ is it's touch button transmission selector and its poor resale value compared to the competition.
Thank you, Alex! Always thorough review.
Again, front seats in high trim Lincolns are cooled, not merely ventilated like other cars. They circulate cooled air.
How do you overlook this detail every time on Ford/Lincoln products?
Ray Foster My Fusion Platinum also has air cooled and heated seats. Two cars are almost identical. I do like the Lincoln styling much better. Preferred Lincoln. Limited Lincoln dealers sent me to Ford. Easier to service.
this channel deserves more subs
Amazing reviews man. I hope you are planing to make a Continental review soon.
Hi Alex. You should consider to do reviews on PCs, open another channel and let's say call it Alex on PCs whatever. You will get at least 10x more subs than reviewing cars and I can see you have the potential to become one of the best PCs reviewers on TH-cam.
Good thought, wish my tech reviews were as detailed as Alex's. :)
Great review. How much were the special seats? They seemed a great option for long haul drivers.
before your video starts, I hit like.
As always, GREAT review Alex. A couple of points.. you mentioned update to the rear end, I don't think much has changed there..it's always had the horizontal LED strip, etc.
I would strongly consider this car new, but for a used car buyer, the MKZ is a huge bargain as they tend to lose quite a bit of value.
Great deals of information, keep up the good work!
I am in love with my mkz turbo hybrid.
Lisa Stallings Keelor It’s either a turbo, or a hybrid. Lincoln didn’t make one with both.
If it says 2.0H it’s a hybrid.
2.0T it’s a turbo.
Man you just love the Kia. I drove one and fell in love with it. I do hate that the rear seats wont fold down. That should be an easy fix. Kia really needs to tweak this car to match the market. Im leaning towards the lincoln however. I ran into a guy on reddit who is a Lincoln salesman. So it was nice to pick his brain before i even step foot in the dealer.
What an awesome review video. Thanks so much.
Best MKZ REVIEW I’ve seen yet.
Love this cars ride. My 1st sedan in 20 yrs.
The best car spokesman
Alex, was the fuel mileage testing done mostly or even some in the rain. I find that my Hybrids fuel mileage is negatively affected by the rain.
donE37100 and the more extreme heat and cold temperatures also.
Hot and cold weather will cause some lower mpg. I have driven Honda Hybrid, Nissan Insight, Hyundai Ioniq, and Lincoln MKZ Hybrid.
Wow Thats a nice car! Very luxurious!
Is this car a smoother/more luxuriant ride than a comparable Avalon?
Underrated car, but I hate the new tacked-on grille. The old grille was way better.
Strange that they gave this a facelift, but did not make the transmission competitive
1:40 Love the sleek, aggressive profile.
I think Ford will fix this soon since the new 9-speed Ford/GM units are starting to roll out of the factory now.
The new grill looks a lot better than the old I think. My mom has a2016 MKX and I do not like the grill
Alex, I spoke with a couple Ford reps at the Chicago Auto Show about this last week. Neither would commit to when / where / or even if the new 9-speed would show up. Curious whether compatibility problems are still being ironed out with regard to their turbo engines.
E E E A grill is for char cooking food.
My respect and admiration ☺ for the grill on the Lincoln MKX 2016 is because when I look at it has the appearance of angel wings. Giving the grill a celestial style 😇 to the front bumper 🚘 of the luxury vehicle.
Still the best in the business man.
very good and thorough review. thank you
amazing review so professional
The price point slide was the best info of the video. This vehicle is a bargain!
I get 32 miles on mine, it's been a year I bought it, traveled a little. Always 32.
I like the hybrid mkz. I wonder what batteries they use. Hopefully lithium
You have the best reviews.
Do the continental next!
that facelift without touching the rear.. very very weird. The new Lincoln front face is a rertro elegant style, the previus MKZ was edgy
It is weird. I like the front but the back looks shite. Also the interior is old Lincoln, they needed to change it.
I think the Buick LaCrosse & Genesis G80 should be included in this comparison.
AlexonAutos ….perhaps the best, thorough yet succinct car reviews…he gets to the point which I appreciate….many car review channels are filled with fluff and guys wildly flailing there arms as they review….
I still can't decide on this car, Continental, 2017 Navigator or another Town Car. I even like the Natalus which replaced the MKX.
Which did you decide on? I have an ‘02 Town Car (Since 2011) and I want to stick with Lincoln.
Another thing to keep in mind in deciding in brands….and that is badge ID….face it…you will be judged differently if you are driving a Lincoln or Lexus compared to a KIA. It’s just human nature. It may not be important to you, but it will affect resale.
Hey Alex, after watching quite a bunch of your videos, I started to wonder do you know any mid size luxury car that handles worse than Acura TLX? Because it looks like all the other brands handles better than the Acura TLX even in SH-AWD trim according to your reviews.
What about comparing this to the 2017 Buick LaCrosse?? It fits into this large Premium sedan market! But I gotta say, you really love that Kia Cadenza and I don't blame you!
Love your vids!
These reviews are great; they make Doug DeMuro look desperate
For the TLX, I would move the reliability from the Pros list to the Cons list.
Of course you would, because you are a hater.
Lol!
thank you Alex. Am Will buy brand new 2019 2.0 h 217ml. model , to UK in march 2021
per 27k$ This is
good price ?????????!!
Sounds good to me.
'I just purchased a 2017, 2.0t with 20,000 miles on it for $21,700, Here in Kansas city Missouri.'
Great video! Subbed
another great review! Thx.
I really hate that they updated the front but not the rear, looks like a franken car.
Shawn Meadows yeh tht front is soooo handsome then its like ahhhh ya forgot the back.
You should've mention the Accord Hybrid and the Camry Hybrid as competition as well. They might not be as luxurious BUT they probably sell more units than the Fusion and MKZ added together. And are significantly cheaper. I wish. You'd stop comparing Lincoln to BMW's and Mercedes' that's ludicrous.
Roller bags with a little flexibility may not be as bulletproof but are a little forgiving for packing in tight spaces.
Looking forward to your review of the 2018 TLX Sh-AWD.
I have a 2016 Fusion Hybrid; in average everyday driving, I get in the mid 40s mpg all the time. Only in the middle of winter with the heater on is my mpg in the 30s. I wouldn't trade 10 mpg for a fancier interior.
The V6 in the Lexus ES does 0-60 in about 6 seconds, so I don't know how you did that with the base Lincoln 4 banger. The Lexus is lighter with more gears, and that V6 is hearty
I'm not sure what you mean, the Lexus ES still uses the older 6-speed Aisin transmission Toyota/Lexus has been very cautious about rolling out the 8-speed so far. The MKZ is heavier, but the delta is under 160 lbs. Toyota's own stated 0-60 time for the ES 350 is 7.1 seconds.
Great review. You certainly have a way with words. Unfortunately I wish you had compared a fully loaded Black Label 2017 MKZ with the 2017 Fusion Platinum rather than a generic mkz vs fusion. Feature by feature the highest end versions of these two automobiles seem to be a match, minus the extended warranty and free car washes, etc with the Black Label MKZ. I own a 2017 Fusion Platinum and I'm very happy with it and would enjoy listening to your opinions on it vs the competition. Probably the only other vehicle I would look at in the future is a Black Label MKZ, provided Ford still makes them.
Did you ever drive an MKZ and compare their ride quality?
Just got approved for my reserve I cant be more than happy cause i willl have thenonly unique panoremic roof that actually opens the entire thing and not just half of the roof
When will you review the Continental?
The 3 liter turbo looks nice
Hey Alex, when are you doing a review of the 2017 Dodge Journey GT ?
I drove one of these and a crossover could never make strides so smoothly over asphalt. The interior space is acceptable. Overall the vehicle dynamics are superior to suvs. Sadly there's no 3rd generation mkz.
Why did you give the rear seats a 7/10?
i can complain so much about the cadillac ATS back seat room, there’s so much leg room in the front seat that could’ve been used for the back
Nice review
If Lincoln wants to be taken seriously, they must up their game. The Black Label package should be standard fare on the 3.0TT Mkz. Use real aluminum, higher grade plastics and go all out. Lincoln has a lot of potential but whoever is in charge needs to get his/her head out of their ass and work.
THAT INTRO HURTS!
Great work though lol.
Compared to my 2008 MKC- 6 Cycl? Mine is a lot Faster( Pocket Rocket) but ararely did more than 30 mph( per my On board Computer) and 18/27 MPG in my 2008=Gas..I rented a Hybrid for a week of Driving up here in SE Wisconson.( Local ave is 25 mph and Country is 60 mph) Ened up buying a Used Rental 2017 MKC Hybrid( The One I rented !16k off New Price = $21k + 5% taxes =$22k.. with a Optional 75k mi warty thru the Local Lincoln Dealer..for only $300..to me? Well worth it..My 08'? Sold it Locally for $6k and gave the buyer a 30 warranty( didin;t need it !
and I spent $3k on my 08' a Yr earlier and had it full restored ( Tires, Brakes, Shocks, tie Rods, Ball Joints ) had 69.4k miles on it..> Top Retail Condition. I think the MKZ Hybrid is a Excellent choise for my Kind of Low miles driving( use it for our Summer Home in Wi. but use a Used-205 STS at our Fla Twnhme( Got our Cad from a former ( Now Deceased) Neighbor with only 16k miles on it and at 1/2 Price.