What's My Line? - Barbra Streisand; Tony Randall [panel] (Apr 25, 1965) [W/ COMMERCIALS!]
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- It's the last week of the WML "Summer of Upgrades"!
Every Sunday this summer, I've been posting upgraded versions of episodes already posted to this channel. Tonight's video adds back in the original commercials, thanks to complete copy provided by epaddon. And the commercials-- one of them, anyway-- have a special significance in this show which I won't spoil, but it has to do with a gaffe by John Daly. Many thanks as always to epaddon for sharing his personal recordings for use in these upgrades!
MYSTERY GUEST: Barbra Streisand
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Tony Randall, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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This show was well before my time (30)
But for my money it may well be the greatest American "game show" to have ever been made.
This Show and To Tell the Truth were the two great great classics, but WML ? is the finest & best.
@@lenhummel5614 oh shit, that's right what's my line was amazing!
Corny shite. Rigged.
Barbra's voice is so recognizable no matter what language she speaks. She looks so beautiful.
you have got to be kidding one of the most beautiful voices ever but she is one unattractive women ever
@@SUNMAYDEN518 I think she is very beautiful. Her own unique beauty.
SUNMAYDEN518 That was uncalled for.
she looks like Amy Winehouse
@@SUNMAYDEN518 She has a nice body.
All the panel dressed immaculately . They all took the questioning seriously but they also had a great sense of fun .
Back when I started flying for business trips (late '90s) it was common to see elderly men and women dressed in their finest. It was beyond cute - but also kind of depressing knowing that the only times we 'care enough' to dress up now are typically only weddings, funerals & job interviews.
@paacer - Which is a description more appropriate to the behaviour of children in a playground.
Barbra Streisand, just 23 and already so accomplished!
These days on tv, even younger ppl showcase wonderful talent beyond imagination.
@@donnawoodford6641 "talent" in the loosest possible term, relatively. Sorry -- snark, I know :)
Didnt he say she turned 24then. So 24 years over. Not 23
@@Roxjetlagged John said Barbra had turned 23 the day before.
@@Roxjetlagged She was born in 1942, so that would make her 23 in 1965.
23 years old…really amazing what she had accomplished already…and the best was yet to come!!!!
Incredible.
I LOVE Tony Randall. Every show he's in he graces us with his presence. He has a ball, and he gives so much thought to his questions, he's so engaging, and entertaining.
Tony Randalls EMMY Speech w@s the Funniest EMMY Moment in television. He won for The Odd Couple in its Fin@l 5th Season in l975 & never before. When he got the award handed to him, he said only this to the audience "I DONT Thank you. You overlooked my superb work for Years" & walked off LOLOL
I adore him.
Maybe that’s why a girl half his age fell in love with him and married him!
Merrida100 - I love to see Tony Randall on any of these episodes. He adds so much wit. Intelligence and charm.
@@Piggy-Oink-Oink - That seems so out of character.
I can't believe the calibre of guests they got on this show
Yes, like the lady who on one edition revealed that she hand paints diapers …
I mean the celebrity guests
They had 'em all, it seems -- all the names of the day.
As a woman...I love love love to see some of these occupations the women guests had. I was born in 1970 & never realized there were so many trailblazers and fascinating jobs held by so many in the 50's and 60's!!❤😊 I find these shows very informational along with entertaining. Thank you for sharing! I'm definitely finding this show a pleasurable new addiction lol
with the annoying commercial snuck in that degrades women's intelligence
Goes to show how women did stuff just fine before the feminist incels of the 60s came about. People complaining about commercials "that degrade women" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@TxJannamaybe just yours
WWII, both militarily and civilian work, opened up a lot of jobs for women.
When Barbra was successfully identified, everyone clapped. I clapped too, with a few tears in my eyes. Bless you, Barbra. RIP Dorothy, Tony, Arlene, Bennett and John.
I cried when Arlene said she wished Barbra would sing for them too. Her singing is so beautiful, it often brings me to tears. And I miss hearing Barbra, so I’d better listen to her beautiful voice soon! I’m just grateful she’s still with us!
PS: Its hard to believe that she was already so poised, beautiful, and accomplished at only age 23!
Barbra - with skin like buttah, according to Linda Richman.
Liza was on three weeks later.
When television was fresh, clean and entertaining. Thanks for posting these bits of history.
My pleasure, Chris-- glad you enjoy the videos, and thanks for the comment!
And incredibly well dressed!
@@ejb7969 Are you saying that fur is a faux fur piece? So sad Arlene and others weren't confident without that.
@@WhatsMyLine Really enjoyed the visit of the Navy Wave and learning about John Daly's military service! It was wonderful hearing there were celebrations of Dolittle's Raiders, too. I hope that continues!
I'll have to google Dayton often to learn what air show celebrations are being planned.
@@diananutt1517 Huh?? Where do I say anything about fur? -- And anyway, I doubt Arlene Francis wore faux anything.
Been a huge fan of Streisand for a very long time. The most gifted, talented, intelligent entertainer. She has more talent in her pinky than most have in their entire body. Respected by the greats in entertainment, politicians, and royalty.
Even Republicans, esp.hard-edge ones then or now? I'd beg to differ!
Great voice, horrendous political beliefs.
@@johnlight9959 I often thought her role in _The Way We Were_ didn't test her acting skills, because she was as much an brainless activist ideologue in real life as she was in the movie. At least Redford _did_ put on a good act that he found her character's chest-beating and virtue-signaling to be annoying as hell, because his politics weren't as different as Streisand's.
But did you like her?
But not by South Park.
Another wonderful Sunday, It's nice to go back to 1965, even if for 30 min. Thanks.
Always nice to see a comment from you, Robert! :)
Lots of good memories of that year. America when it was still America. The changes that would occur in just a few years could not have been imagined then. Perhaps because they were rather nightmarish.
America has come a long way but very sad to say but not for the good...may GOD have mercy on us all.......
I have loved Barbra Streisand since I was 16 and saw her in Funny Girl, she then became my life time idol. She's so gorgeous. Hello Gorgeous!
With skin like buttah.
I saw her in "Funny Girl" three times. I would have gone more if I could have afforded it back then. I still adore her.
I was a pre-teen in 1965. My parents were avid Streisand fans, but we kids were stuck on the Beatles. Then watched her TV Specials on our little black & white TV, and we were all thunderstruck. We had never heard such a dynamic voice and personality. My parents are long gone, but we “kids” are still fans. And, yes, we agree with her political sentiments too.
I always enjoy watching these episodes of a classic television game show. So simple in its premise, certainly by today's standards, but non-the-less interesting and made even more enjoyable by the regular panelists and charming host Mr. Daly. This is television in its infancy, but yet still captivating in its performance. And boy, that Dorothy was an EXCELLENT player.
Thanks for all the work you do curating and organizing this wonderful part of American TV history. Since I am also a classic movie fan I like to see some of Hollywood's classic stars on the show!
Tony Randall has always just oozed class!!!
Such a gentleman.
Gloves and a gown! You _go,_ Arlene!
Why is that animal fur decorating the shoulder?
@@donnawoodford6641 Because she bought it. Go soak your head.
@Eric I'm anti-fur, but I love your snappy comeback.
I wish we librarians were thought of as highly today as we were back then. Our positions are often the first to be cut in downsizing.
Gretchen King
Thats a real shame. Always seek out the librarians
Librarians will always have a place in the sun of my heart.
Practically NO POSITION is thought of as highly today as they were back then.
@@davidsanderson5918 Namely Parents!
Yet Bennett told the horse exerciser that she’d make a great librarian because of how pretty she is? That didn’t sound to me like he thought so highly of librarians if he’s saying it’s only about looks. That bother anyone else?
What a great show this was ! Fascinating way to learn about people and fun to see panelists try to guess who the mystery star was 👍
Fun - A description more appropriate to the behaviour of children in a playground.
Barbara's best "look" is shown here. Look, body, hair A+
What's My Line is my favorite game show. I shed a tear every time I watch these timeless episodes. With John Daly, Bennett, Arlene, Dorothy, and Fred. ❤
Barbra can't hide her tremendous voice. they prob could have identified her immediately, but allowed her the fun of playing through a few questions.
It is so pleasant to see people dressed up. Suits and dresses, beautiful posture. Well spoken etc.ec.etc. 😊
Very superficial.
Thanks for including the commercials. Fun to watch too.
Which is a description more appropriate to the behaviour of children in a playground.
I loved this show as a little kid. I used to watch Sunday night's with my Grandfather. I still enjoy it and realize what an excellent show it was.
What a lucky Barbra to met those five legends of WML.
No, they were lucky to meet her.
She IS a legend.
How I love this show! Unfortunately, it was in too late to watch when I was a very young child- My bedtime was 8:30 unless it was summer vacation. I get to enjoy these fun episodes now! Thank you for posting!
In Philly I'm pretty sure this ran at 7 or 7:30. Sundays 8-9 on CBS was Ed Sullivan, and I don't think 60 Minutes was on yet in 1965.
As I recall the show was often broadcast live as opposed to video-taped on Sunday evenings, because the show had the 10:30 pm time slot in NYC and it came on at 7:30 in California -- and that's when I remember watching it as a kid.
This comment is adorable ♥️
Fun - A description more appropriate to the behaviour of children in a playground.
Challenger #2 Helen Boyle worked at The Atlas Minerals & Chemicals Co. which was Est. in 1892, located in Mertztown, PA. and is still in existence. I live about 40 miles NW of there.
Now, Dorothy spoke Italian... Could I Love her more??
I'm 30, and I have to say, after watching several episodes with her sharp mind, and the cute grin she got when on the right track to an answer, i've got a bit of a crush! Decades out of sync of course. What a cool lady
@@37thraven just CAN’T help it💞💞💞
I love this so much, I wish an interviewer would ask her today what her memory is of being on What’s My Line!
What a shame Dorothy passed away this year (1965) and tragic the way she died, the same way Marilyn Monroe died. Curious that both women were connected to Frank Sinatra with Frank thinking it was funny to make jokes about her looks, which I never thought of as anything but beautiful. She seemed so sweet, smart and elegant.
what was wrong with her arm? that thing she was wearing didn't seem to have much support if she broke it.
Government involvement in those deaths and so many more as the beat goes on
Dorothy was Murdered
Her death was connected to the Kennedy murders. She knew too much and Marilyn had a big mouth when it came to her affairs with the Kennedy brothers. Both were connected with the Kennedy’s and were murdered by the party that sits in the WH who also took out the Kennedy’s because of their love of freedom and our country.
@@dinahbrown902 you are correct
Barbra singing live in Central Park in the late 1960's is absolutely mesmerizing. I highly recommend watching a video clip on TH-cam.
"Nobody can eliminate the Marines". #salute
From WIKI
Penny Ann Early (born May 30, 1943) is an American athlete who was one of the first female jockeys to be licensed to ride parimutuel horse races, and the first woman to play in a professional basketball league."
"Penny Ann was often accused of trying to gain publicity more so than mounts. She was so frustrated with maintaining her weight and getting enough mounts that she quit to become a trainer. In 1974, at the age of 30, she went on a strict diet and worked diligently to get her weight down; however, her comeback was short-lived when she broke her arm, ankle, wrist, and some ribs in a racing spill. Today Early, a divorcee and mother, continues to work with horses"
Early continued to work with horses in California and later in 2021 in Shelbyville, Tennessee until her death. She died by suicide on June 23, 2023, at the age of 80.
Thank you for the Sunday upgrades,I enjoy seeing the shows again as I did originally in the 1960s,I only wish the upgrades would continue,possibly once a month.
Well, I'm constrained, of course, by what material I have available! :) Glad you've been enjoying the upgrades, though-- and I do have some special goodies coming up now that this wave of upgrades is finished!
WML had an affinity for people associated with dynamite. WML consistently booked these people. A few months into the future [November 1965] , in another episode with Dorothy Tony, Arlene, and Bennett, WML booked another woman selling dynamite. That episode, as it turned out, was Dorothy's final one. This was, incidentally, a big year for Tony on WML. He appeared fairly regularly and in the early summer sat in for Bennett when he went on a long trip.
I didn't realize that at the time. Her last.
Dynamite, training horses and helicopters.
1965!!! She is becoming Barbra here... I love this. LOVE this.
Wonderful to see just plain folks, and also a Miss Armed Forces - Navy! Thanks for posting.
Barbra. Stunning looks and stunning voice :-)
It sure would have made it allot harder to guess if the mystery guests weren’t performing in the area at the time of each show!
It's the last week of the WML "Summer of Upgrades"!
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Thank you so much for posting these! They bring me, and I'm sure many others, a lot of joy.
Having worked most of my life in the advertising business, I love to see these old commercials!
I love Barbara's hair....she looks beautiful
Barbra has the most beautiful eyes, skin and mouth and she carries herself like a princess. I always thought she was incredibly attractive.
Refused to alter her nose,as it could diminish her voice.
@@dcasper8514 I sometimes wondered why she didn't have surgery, so thanks for that logical answer! :)
She also has really beautiful hands. In “The Prince of Tides” they were especially showcased.
Much like my Mistress.
IN MY VIEW
Barbra Streisand is in a class all her own. She is unique and talented beyond measure.
Good heavens she was stunning! :)
Who?
Wow that's amazing how polite and genuine ,people were back then . The etiquette and the formal dress and attire !
Great commercial as well! We had this very model!
marie-elena Waldrip on l
Obviously that was one of Arlene's casual sables.
I'm guessing it was one of her Spring or early-Summer sables.
John Wettermark LOL
🤣
For a game show, they dress like going to a ball. Very classy.
that one savage who whistled for Mrs. Boyle 😂😂😂
Streisand was on a year earlier when a contestant made Nitroglycerin to go with this show's dynamite cap lady.
Dynamite can't be found in most homes, unless the Addams Family mansion. It's one of Uncle Fester's favorite toys.
11:53 JCD BIG hint "crumbs"
She was and will always be a Star in Heaven's her singing and Films Have been such a great Joy to me,
Bennett Cerf always trying to shoot his shot with the women guests 😩😂 always talking about how beautiful they are like sir, you are married stop being a creep
Those WML names defined in full.
Cerf - (i) An overbearing and rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.
I’ve been watching WML lately. All of their mystery guest were A LIST CELEBRITIES
Wish they would reboot this show
And in about a month from now (today is March 26th 2022), she'll be celebrating her 80th birthday.
The commercials are GREAT! They could use some of these commercials today.
Heard her sing in Central park NYC NY..."people...who need people..are the luckiest people in the World"
THE classic Streisand look of the sixties.
Just casually glancing up at the lights after she sat down, such a funny little moment.
I sat here wondering how old Barbra Streisand was in this clip and then John Daly says she just had a 24th birthday. What timing.Since I was 8 years old in ‘65 and never saw this show until a few years later. The ages of these mystery guests always amazed me.
Someone needed a pin to stick into Cerf so to de-puff his ego. Nvrthlss it was good to hear the plug for libraries / librarians.
Yes!! De Puff Cerf !
Barbra: awarded an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony award. And, unlike most of today's pop singers, didn't need Auto Tune to fix the shortcomings of her voice. (Yes, I know, it didn't exist back then. Still...)
She received: 2 Academy Awards, 10 Grammy Awards including the Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award and the Grammy Legend Award, 5 Emmy Awards, 4 Peabody Awards, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and 9 Golden Globes.
Amazing.
It's nice to see how humble Barbra is before her success gave her an ego bigger than Russia.
SHE WAS PRETTY DARN POPULAR IN '65 HAVING CONQUERED BROADWAY, SEVERAL ALBUMS ALREADY MILLION SELLERS. YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO COME ON STAGE LOOKING SCARED TO DEATH. EGO IS WHAT DRIVES PEOPLE TO BE GREAT. SOME MAKE IT SOME DON'T. TODAY AT 75 SHE'S STILL SINGING AND HAS LIVED A LIFE WITHOUT THE TRAGIC DRAMA SO MANY HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BY.
Amen, and 'Meet the Fockers' brilliant on her@@MICHGO1
@@MICHGO1Why are you shouting?
She EARNED that ego, more than anyone else.
The Pall Mall commercial was a classic. You can see why so many got hooked. Those things were filterless, so especially lethal ( but tasted better?). My mom and dad smoked 3 packs a day of them (each!) and mom had lung cancer at 64 to prove it. Our home ( and car) always had a heavy ozone layer when I was growing up from those death-inducing puffs.
My Dad started with Chesterfields in 1956 right out of high school, switched to Pall Malls by 1960. Eventually, he went to the gold version which had a filter. Didn't help any. Despite quitting in the mid 90s, hedied from lung cancer in 2016.
@@debbieomi about 80?
@@HooDatDonDar Yep, he was a few months short of 78. My mom died two and a half years later with congestive heart failure from smoking. She smoked menthol for probably 30 of those years.
Barbra should have used anything but her voice. She’s so perfect wow.
And the long answers . I think some like Barbra want to be discovered quickly . Imagine the dent to the ego if they didn't discover her identity .
Don’t you love the class on shows like this.
Best comeback:
Bennett: "Do you wear a uniform of some branch of the armed services?"
Delores (Guest): "Yes, it is."
Bennett: "Can I eliminate the Marines?"
Arlene: "Nobody can eliminate the Marines!"
I learned something from one of the commercials. I never knew before that Pall Mall cigarettes were pronounced "Pell Mell." I don't think this is just an accent from that period of time or from a certain region, because I haven't noticed that pronunciation on other "-all" words on What's My Line, and there are several speakers in the commercial who all pronounce the name the same way.
That is how the street in London is pronounced. It is a street of fancy clubs, and naming the cigarette for this street implies that this is what people who like quality smoke.
Also why Pall Malls have the slogan “Wherever particular people congregate”.
how clean TV was back then not like today family's could sit around the set and watch it together
an we did
I was 12yrs old when I watched this it's weird I can still remember this particular show
PS even the car commercials told the truth cars where built so much better then not like the junk we have now
Yes it was, and still they managed to be very funny and entertaining. Being in my twenties, I never got the full experience but I can at least enjoy the reruns. Honestly there's only a couple of shows I actually like and watch that are currently on air. For some reason when I try to watch new shows I get kind of an uneasy feeling, but older ones are very comforting to me.
I wonder why and how the switch to everything being vulgar, violent, and crude occurred. TV executives are only concerned with money and ratings but surely there's enough people who would like to see some programming like this?!?!?
@@missfabolous000 Deconstructionism contributed greatly to why our society exists today. Everything, and I mean everything, has been reduced and stripped down to its lowest common denominator. This applies to speech, dress, architecture, what have you. The drive to oversimplify has tossed the baby out with bathwater. Everything is now base, coarse and mean. Cheap and disposable. A society gets what it deserves.
I do enjoy the show very much, however Cerf said a few very weird things tonight. You're pretty enough to be a librarian and you would be a very good one. Huh?
Yeah, I understand that it's a compliment to comment on a woman's looks, but how is prettiness a prerequisite to be a librarian?
Yes it was a very odd thing for him to say. Perhaps TV nerves got the better him and he blurted that.
@@taraxacum Cerf probably saw a porno movie about an attractive librarian.
@Robert Sv... More likely Marian the Librarian from "The Music Man."
Have always admired & adored her! Fantastic singer & actress ♥️
"pall mall" cracked me up.
I never heard "Pall Mall" pronounced over and over like "Pal Mal"!
+Qermaq
It sounded like "Pell Mell" to me!
It is, in fact, pronounced "Pell Mell" despite the spelling.
I normally pronounce "pall" like in "pallbearer" with an AH sound. Rhymes with call and small, and with mall. I heard it like "pal" rhyming with "gal" and "canal". Maybe there's a regional difference at play?
Qermaq I'm only referring to how the brand name of the cigarettes was pronounced, not the words themselves. The cigarette brand was most definitely pronounced differently than the spelling (as "pell mell"). In general language, it's pronounced according to the spelling (though there are variants out there, "paul maul" versus "pahl mahl"). As far as I'm aware, only the cigarette brand was pronounced with an "e" sound, as the cigarette name came from the name of a street in England which was pronounced with an "e" sound. See the following:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pall_Mall_(cigarette)#Pronunciation
One little known fact about Barbra. Someone I know attended Erasmus Hall H.S. in Brooklyn when she was there and said she was an excellent student and had she not gone off to Broadway would very likely have been admitted to one of the Ivy League universities.
Neil Diamond attended Erasmus Hall at the same time as Barbra. He is a year older than her.
Not surprised that she is a smart lady.
Within a decade, Barbra became primarily known for being in motion pictures.
And making records.
Barbra doesn't disguise her voice enough.
22:52 "You bet I'm particular ... and my Pall Malls prove it!" Particularly proved it for my father. He worked for the company that made them. And he died of the particular disease known as emphysema.
Yikes. Very sorry to hear that.
Arlene dresses like she's going to a fancy dinner party !!
I was in kindergarten when this was broadcast. A time when my mother was really into Barbra Streisand
Well -- I am old enough that I watched many of these episodes first run. I remember specifically when Dorothy broke her collarbone slipping on a throw rug. When this WML channel ramped up years ago, I thought my memory was faulty because Dorothy and accident did not show up for the longest time. Arlene and her accident, which I did not remember, were shown when the channel broadcast WML 1963. Then the channel got to 1965 and the six or so episodes surrounding Dorothy's collar injury got played again.
They had their accidents on the actual show ??
ArtificialRed Daly mentioned the accidents each time on the live Sunday show.
Always enjoy the classic commercials, thanks! (All of a sudden I’m hungry for corn flakes.)
It was so sexist LOL and the lines were good and ridiculous at the same time.
… and a Pall Mall, Laura?
I was impressed with her Italian. I didn’t know she spoke fluently.
She always has been in love with Italian language
Dorothy is my favourite so sad she died this year.😢
Huh? She died in 1965.
Happy 80th Birthday, Barbra!
The wolf whistles "welcoming" the woman who exercises horses cracked me up.
23 yr old Barbara is CHARMING beyond measure!!!!
So many times the mystery guest was just someone about to appear in a play etc and promoted in the papers that the panel already read.
best singer ever
Dated a doppelganger of Barbra in college. It was so funny the surprised evinced by others that Barbra would be in the company of a lowly schlub like me.
I realy enjoyed the Ford LTD commercial. Quieter than a Rolls Royce!
Did they then start issuing them in colours other than black?
Notice Tony Randall trying to show his education when he corrects his saying "who" by then saying "whom", when he was correct first time with "who".
I noted that too!
All four of the guests on this episode were female. This is highly unusual. In more than 99% of the episodes, there were at least one man and one woman who were guests.
This is a very classic programme.
It’s rigged and as corny as Kellogg’s corn … corn … corn Zzzzzzzz
Miss Early besides exercising horses looked like she did some exercising herself. Thanks for the video.
The best, crazyiest Bennet Cerf intro ever.
Those WML names defined in full.
Cerf - (i) An overbearing and rather pompous person who makes creepy remarks to females. (ii) A Pisstaker (iii) A Smartarse.
I cannot help but wonder where life took the guests on these shows, as in the race horse exerciser, Genny Early. It would be fun to find information such as if they are still alive, etc.
I think about that too
Yes someone else commented she became a kinda famous jockey. Penny Early. You can Google it
Dorothy was back after detoxing in the hospital. Unfortunately, that didn't last long. She was back on the booze and meds in no time.
One thing about watching really old commercials -- I never would have guessed that Pall Mall is pronounced Pell Mell.
23 and 1 day old....unbelievable. More talent in her little finger than female singers today have in their whole on display bodies.
And now 81. Jeesh!