As long as Vox is building them to adhere to EU standards, you can't build a great sounding tube amp. Not even close to vintage, if it is made for international sales.
I have an old A/C 50 from the 60's I bought new as a teenager. We were the first band in south Florida to have all Vox equipment. We worked 5 years together.
I was very curious about these but wondered why they won’t bring back the EF86 tube in the preamp. To me, that tube and the Alnico Blues is the “Vox” sound.
I think they struggle to find them in good usable format. They struggled back in the day to get them without microphonics - which was the reason they developed Top Boost using 12AX7s.
@@daciousinoz6028 They also suggested a reverb tank...but it will be more likely digital. Fact is though it has not been put out for sale. That suggests uncertainty ..
The limited info, zero chassis shots, and ONLY overly distorted short demos is strange. If these had awesome handwiring and looked great, you'd think that would be a feature. I could be wrong but awfully suspicious that you're showing so little. We will know eventually I guess. Maybe this year Vox will release more pictures or even the price of these.😕
I'm so stoked for this. I wanted a HW but hated the fawn color. To me an AC30 is black tolex with brown grill cloth. This amp might end my marriage. I hope it's reasonably priced. Considering you can get a decent JMI for 4-6k depending on condition, doing anything near that price would be ridiculous. Too the people bitching about the features. Go buy a JMI era Vox. They need to sell these to modern players. There will be changes. I'm stoked for this.
I had a top-boost ac30 piggy back in the late 70s, sounded much warmer and smoother, no brittleness..may get smoother with use , maybe the valves ? Mine was 15 years old when I got it and hardley used, at full-blast it was'nt deafening but did fill the soace with sound, any space. Ibanez les paul copy was what we usex then and man people would stop and stand in front of the VOX just to feel it's warmth, maybe it was a "one-off"?
I want to see a gut shot before I spend money on these. I can only imagine the price tag is going to be ridiculous so I hope they deliver on the quality of the internal components and not give some sloppy effort like other big name “hand-wired” amps.
Strange that Vox obviously had working versions of these amps at NAMM and then crickets through and well past the supposed summer release. Wonder what’s going on… factory set up or parts supply issues? Unexpected rise in costs? So weird to go dark all this time as if they never said anything.
The old hand wired amps have the same logo on the front and the top lettering is also inverted like this one. Has he ever seen the hand wired amps from a few years ago? They are exactly the same. These amps are no different from the other hand wired amps. These have reverb and an effects loop that’s the only difference. The old ones were built in Vietnam. I don’t know about these.
it's amazing how they keep churning these "hand wired" lines to get "closer" to the real deal... the schematics are out there, and there's no real secret. you need good iron (mostly output tranny), quality coupling/tone capacitors, carbon comps where they belong, and original celestion blues... however, vox has constantly been getting this wrong by cutting corners on these crucial parts. they follow the schematics, but they keep skimping out on good components.
How about waiting to hear these amps before making such a statement? The Vox guy here indicated that they're going for the sound of an ideal reference vintage amp and not focusing on just replicating the old schematics. In other words, they'll use whatever components they want in order to achieve the sound. I have no problem with that approach as long as the sound is great and the amps are built with reliability and serviceability in mind.
@@jjjddd231 remember the 60th anniversary vox amps a few years ago? they were supposed to be the true replicas of the vintage amps, but here we are. yeah, we've all heard this marketing nonsense before...
No EF86 AND no vibrato/tremolo channel? Seriously? They also removed master volume bypass in favour of reverb. Also the new AC4 is still goofy like the old one and is top boost channel only without the top cut knob so you need to use an eq pedal with it.
These will probably be costly. Just a reminder that Vox usually manufactures their units in Vietnam too, so I'm guessing their hand wired amps are actually hand wired by Vietnamese
@@BlackDogOriginallower standards than drunk pilled out Americans?😂 Please. You must be referring to decades ago when made in USA meant something. Now mostly trash made by people who could give a sh*t
OOOh I get it !! The previous Hand wired series that you said was the real Mccoy and charged a ton of money for, wasn't really the real thing. Now you're saying the same thing that this is the real deal and we're supposed to believe you? It's the oldest trick in the book. It's right out of the Gibson Fender playbook. Oooh that 59 Burst that you paid 6K for wasn't original specs. This new one for 9K is the original spec. SMFH
- Master Volume - not vintage correct. - 2 channels (Top Boost & Normal) - not vintage correct - Bright switch on the Normal channel - not vintage correct - No VIB-TREM channel - not vintage correct Why go to all the trouble of basing it off a ’63 if the circuit is different? its just a handwired AC30C2X. thank goodness for the brass vents and vintage logo though 😆
Most modern players don't care for the above features. If you're that nit picky get a JMI. These seem like a hybrid of Denny's circuit and what modern players would use. I strictly use the normal channel, a vib trem would just collect dust. I understand your complaints but they have to sell these to people other than JMI enthusiasts. I wanted the old HW but I'm not a fan of the fawn color and North Coast Music stopped making custom made cabinets (I bought the last AC30 from him when he was closing his shop down). So this is a dream product for me. Hopefully enough of Denny's spirit is in there with the modern features like a master volume among others that I would prefer. As mentioned if you really want a JMI era AC30...Buy one. And then use this for road gigs. This is a win win for us AC30 enthusiasts in my opinion. Of course this depends on the price. You can pick up a JMI era AC30 for $4-6k depending on condition. This better be a fraction of that.
well, rest assured, all the suckers who bought the 60th anniversary for "vintage prices" are cursing Vox out for making a better more vintage correct model.
no, it means there's a switching jack on the send of the loop so when nothings plugged into it, the in/out are bridged, it's(the fx loop) essentially not there.
@@gregmize01 thanks for the clarification, still wondering on passive vs buffered fx loop though. Good to know it's not in the circuit when not in use, but many other companies use buffered fx loop nowadays to have longer cable runs and less top end loss in the loop. Hopefully we find out soon
Just go buy vintage or boutique. You seem to be so hung up on if the caps are up to your standards 🙄 Or now who makes the transformers? How about go create some music. Nah just obsess over minute silly details.😂
@@thesimulations8900 errr.. you do know components make a huge part of the tone, right? and the whole point of these new amps is how the internals are built differently to capture the tone of the vintage 60's. or sorry, you're still rocking out on your peavey rage and lost your way to this video. seriously, what a dumbass...
All these new Digital or Solid state amps are trash.. Keep the old tech alive! This new crap modeling , fractal, Kempoop, etc is all course audio information harsh sound... Valve tech MUST BE SUSTAINED
What do you think of the tone of these new VOX hand-wired amps? Let us know in the comments! 🔊🎸🤘
I want the AC30 Head and Cab!
As long as Vox is building them to adhere to EU standards, you can't build a great sounding tube amp. Not even close to vintage, if it is made for international sales.
C'mon Vox!!! Where's the 2x10 AC-10?
@@bobbystereo936 waiting on the 4x12 ac-4 handwired head/cab.... with ef86
@@kenichi407I hope that's not sarcasm? There really was a 2x10 ac10 back in 1964.
I have an old A/C 50 from the 60's I bought new as a teenager. We were the first band in south Florida to have all Vox equipment. We worked 5 years together.
Smartest thing they have ever done
September, still none in site…Please give us some update Vox!
Beautiful looking amps and beautiful sounding amps.
about time! cant wait to here the ac10!
Great job Vox. Looking forward to this new amp June 2025👍
He's saying all the right words ... Wonder what didn't get done ... I want vintage components and wiring schematic. I think it's the EF86
August, still none around
Now, can they turn their attentions to reintroducing the 1965 AC10 SRT?
I've been waiting for a hand-wired AC10 for a long time, now.....
me too.
I was very curious about these but wondered why they won’t bring back the EF86 tube in the preamp. To me, that tube and the Alnico Blues is the “Vox” sound.
I think they struggle to find them in good usable format. They struggled back in the day to get them without microphonics - which was the reason they developed Top Boost using 12AX7s.
@@daciousinoz6028 Matchless seems to be finding them.
@@daciousinoz6028 They also suggested a reverb tank...but it will be more likely digital. Fact is though it has not been put out for sale. That suggests uncertainty ..
The limited info, zero chassis shots, and ONLY overly distorted short demos is strange. If these had awesome handwiring and looked great, you'd think that would be a feature. I could be wrong but awfully suspicious that you're showing so little. We will know eventually I guess. Maybe this year Vox will release more pictures or even the price of these.😕
Yeh. I'd love to hear some "George" (that Beatle guy) Beatle music with a Country Gent shoved through one of these ...
Now listed on Vox archives. Have these been abandoned?
I'm so stoked for this. I wanted a HW but hated the fawn color. To me an AC30 is black tolex with brown grill cloth. This amp might end my marriage. I hope it's reasonably priced. Considering you can get a decent JMI for 4-6k depending on condition, doing anything near that price would be ridiculous. Too the people bitching about the features. Go buy a JMI era Vox. They need to sell these to modern players. There will be changes. I'm stoked for this.
Hey @guitarcenter
What's the word on these? Summer came and went. No news at all?
I had a top-boost ac30 piggy back in the late 70s, sounded much warmer and smoother, no brittleness..may get smoother with use , maybe the valves ? Mine was 15 years old when I got it and hardley used, at full-blast it was'nt deafening but did fill the soace with sound, any space. Ibanez les paul copy was what we usex then and man people would stop and stand in front of the VOX just to feel it's warmth, maybe it was a "one-off"?
Finally the put in a dam fx loop!!! Should have happened a long time ago 😊
Getting close to summer, need the info!
Originally Vox said info by June. A Vox rep now told me hopefully by summer. Which I guess could mean by end of September at the latest .😕
Now fall and nothing. No info, no price, no good sound clips. Good job Vox
Awesome
Looking forward to them, when expected in musicshops??? I can't wait.
I want to see a gut shot before I spend money on these. I can only imagine the price tag is going to be ridiculous so I hope they deliver on the quality of the internal components and not give some sloppy effort like other big name “hand-wired” amps.
they need to avoid chips in the pre amp to boost the gain
October and no amps 😢
Strange that Vox obviously had working versions of these amps at NAMM and then crickets through and well past the supposed summer release. Wonder what’s going on… factory set up or parts supply issues? Unexpected rise in costs? So weird to go dark all this time as if they never said anything.
Any news on a release date for these?
The old hand wired amps have the same logo on the front and the top lettering is also inverted like this one. Has he ever seen the hand wired amps from a few years ago? They are exactly the same. These amps are no different from the other hand wired amps. These have reverb and an effects loop that’s the only difference. The old ones were built in Vietnam. I don’t know about these.
it's amazing how they keep churning these "hand wired" lines to get "closer" to the real deal... the schematics are out there, and there's no real secret. you need good iron (mostly output tranny), quality coupling/tone capacitors, carbon comps where they belong, and original celestion blues... however, vox has constantly been getting this wrong by cutting corners on these crucial parts. they follow the schematics, but they keep skimping out on good components.
How about waiting to hear these amps before making such a statement? The Vox guy here indicated that they're going for the sound of an ideal reference vintage amp and not focusing on just replicating the old schematics. In other words, they'll use whatever components they want in order to achieve the sound. I have no problem with that approach as long as the sound is great and the amps are built with reliability and serviceability in mind.
@@jjjddd231 remember the 60th anniversary vox amps a few years ago? they were supposed to be the true replicas of the vintage amps, but here we are. yeah, we've all heard this marketing nonsense before...
I'd like to see inside the chassis. Does Hand-wired mean point to point? Or PCB?
Point to point for Vox in this case. PCB if you’re looking at the amps Gibson just released 😮
No EF86 AND no vibrato/tremolo channel? Seriously? They also removed master volume bypass in favour of reverb. Also the new AC4 is still goofy like the old one and is top boost channel only without the top cut knob so you need to use an eq pedal with it.
Oooh, this I want.
No, you want the original 63-65
@@SAGABIJO2Yea, I highly doubt they used an ef86
These will probably be costly. Just a reminder that Vox usually manufactures their units in Vietnam too, so I'm guessing their hand wired amps are actually hand wired by Vietnamese
so, what's your point?
Vietnamese need jobs too.
@@kenichi407Probably lower quality control, standards.
@@BlackDogOriginallower standards than drunk pilled out Americans?😂
Please. You must be referring to decades ago when made in USA meant something. Now mostly trash made by people who could give a sh*t
same hands as me and you...heard that crap back in the 80s about Japanese strats
I’d like to hear a non metal, non heavy shredder play one with Alnico Blues. Like some 60’s Brit Invasion..
Does the ac10 have spring reverb too, or does that start at the ac15?
I'm assuming these are all hand wired in Asia instead of the UK?
OOOh I get it !! The previous Hand wired series that you said was the real Mccoy and charged a ton of money for, wasn't really the real thing. Now you're saying the same thing that this is the real deal and we're supposed to believe you? It's the oldest trick in the book. It's right out of the Gibson Fender playbook. Oooh that 59 Burst that you paid 6K for wasn't original specs. This new one for 9K is the original spec. SMFH
Will there be a power switch like in the current AC30H?
- Master Volume - not vintage correct.
- 2 channels (Top Boost & Normal) - not vintage correct
- Bright switch on the Normal channel - not vintage correct
- No VIB-TREM channel - not vintage correct
Why go to all the trouble of basing it off a ’63 if the circuit is different? its just a handwired AC30C2X.
thank goodness for the brass vents and vintage logo though 😆
Most modern players don't care for the above features. If you're that nit picky get a JMI. These seem like a hybrid of Denny's circuit and what modern players would use. I strictly use the normal channel, a vib trem would just collect dust. I understand your complaints but they have to sell these to people other than JMI enthusiasts. I wanted the old HW but I'm not a fan of the fawn color and North Coast Music stopped making custom made cabinets (I bought the last AC30 from him when he was closing his shop down). So this is a dream product for me. Hopefully enough of Denny's spirit is in there with the modern features like a master volume among others that I would prefer. As mentioned if you really want a JMI era AC30...Buy one. And then use this for road gigs. This is a win win for us AC30 enthusiasts in my opinion. Of course this depends on the price. You can pick up a JMI era AC30 for $4-6k depending on condition. This better be a fraction of that.
It's about getting the sound right, not slavishly adhering to some very dated schematic.
Wonder how these differ from the UK made 60th handwired versions from a couple of years back?
well, rest assured, all the suckers who bought the 60th anniversary for "vintage prices" are cursing Vox out for making a better more vintage correct model.
@@kenichi407 but is it more vintage correct? The 60th didn't have effects loop etc etc. And they were UK made.
Ef86 or I’m not interested.
does true bypass mean passive fx loop? or buffered with true bypass?
no, it means there's a switching jack on the send of the loop so when nothings plugged into it, the in/out are bridged, it's(the fx loop) essentially not there.
@@gregmize01 thanks for the clarification, still wondering on passive vs buffered fx loop though. Good to know it's not in the circuit when not in use, but many other companies use buffered fx loop nowadays to have longer cable runs and less top end loss in the loop. Hopefully we find out soon
Make an AC10 SRT please!
how much,,,,,, and how chimy clean
What's the difference with the x model?
x = celestion alnico blue speakers
anyone know who makes the transformers for these?
Just go buy vintage or boutique. You seem to be so hung up on if the caps are up to your standards 🙄
Or now who makes the transformers? How about go create some music. Nah just obsess over minute silly details.😂
@@thesimulations8900 errr.. you do know components make a huge part of the tone, right? and the whole point of these new amps is how the internals are built differently to capture the tone of the vintage 60's. or sorry, you're still rocking out on your peavey rage and lost your way to this video. seriously, what a dumbass...
We don’t need no stinkin’ badges
All these new Digital or Solid state amps are trash..
Keep the old tech alive!
This new crap modeling , fractal, Kempoop, etc is all course audio information harsh sound... Valve tech MUST BE SUSTAINED
Not all of us can afford vintage gear :^(
So VOX basically did nothing new, just made the same but more expensive. Got it.
and yeah... they made the cabinet "thinner"...
Might be cheaper to just find a vintage ac50 or a rose morris ac30 & save sum cash?