Congratulations on your new bike, looks really nice and colour scheme is good , my favourite colour green, happy adventures hopefully more of great videos
I've been interested in the Mutt 250 but there seems too many issues on the Facebook group, bits falling off, indicators and battery failing within months of new, bogging down (fuel injector/sensor), and corrosion. These Fantics ooze quality in comparison, at least that's my impressions on TH-cam.
Hard to say. I sold mine for various reasons. It never let me down, but it ran super hot. And I would let it cool down after slow/tricky uphill sections. A few cuts outs (dealer could not find cause) and a headlight failure. But I just wouldn’t trust their longevity for years and years. (Like I would a Honda/Yamaha etc. ) Not that I have any real evidence of the longevity being poor... I just didn’t like my chances of owning it for many years without a serious issue.
Finally one 'review' where you can clearly hear the exhausts in the end of the movie! Seems rare to find movies where they record exhaust sounds on TH-cam while driving.. but honestly the sound is what makes it appealing or not. I don't know what you are used to, but to me it sounds fun, only a bit like a "tree shredder". Or a farmers tractor... I'm used to a Ducati Monster 800 with Performance Titanium exhausts, I guess without muffler, so compared to that it's always a downgrade, however, on that bike you couldn't ride long without hearing protection because it was loud! It attracted police multiple times... even so bad that in a tunnel of more than a kilometer lenght the police heard me at the end while I entered the tunnel... not a wonder because I drove around 200 km/h and that's also the reason I'm looking for this bike, because it's risky driving something that goes that fast!
Glad it helped, not really a proper review, I thought I may do one of those after a few hundred miles, to check for any problems etc. so far its been good, the dashboard doesn't like getting wet, is my main complaint on the build quality, doesn't affect the performance, but the 'high beam' indicator (not the actual light) comes on if its gets very rained on. coming up to my first big service soon, so i can start to open her up more now. also, she does seem to run hot, which is only a problem, if you are going slow in traffic etc.... but that maybe down to the fact she is still running in.
I ride through Hayle a lot, from Falmouth. The coastal road up to Zennor and around to Land's End is a beaut...as long as you don't get stuck behind a tour bus 😂 Great vid, I've owned a Husky Svartpilen and loved it. Riding a Triumph Tiger XCX 800 atm, but looking to trade her in for the new Fantic Caballero 500 Explorer they've just realeased!
@@biscuitsalive interesting, I had the same plan with the Triumph. First bike was the Husky, moved to Triumph for the longer distance stuff and found myself using it as a commuter and not a lot else. Hence looking to go back to where it all began with the Caballero, plus I really want to get into green Laning 👍
I’ve been studying this scrambler to buy soon as a second bike. Hoot to have a blast on dirt roads and gravel tracks. I believe I won’t go wrong getting one..?
Congratulations on the new bike. I was having a good look at these and thought they ticked alot of boxes, but I'm going to go for something more road biased. Will follow the channel to see up coming adventures and reviews
Yep no point getting a high, long suspension travel bike if you are on road 90%+ That said. This is very good fun on the road. You can chuck it around easily.
The scrambler is the road biased version. It loses the long suspenders, has different damping and really grippy dual sport tyres. Love mine. Chucked in a KTM990 for it. Light, raw, simple motorcycling with a dash of style. A willing little motor that’s always up for it like a daft puppy after a ball and ridiculously nimble handling. I found the brakes a bit lacking, but that’s coming from a twin 4 pot radial Brembo set up. Haven’t attempted any off road yet.
@@mattpierceplayz I asked the same question. Head Gaskets, suspension and Cush drive rubbers are already sorted out on 2020 models. There was an issue in the factory properly filling the coolant which caused overheating. I’ve only got a few hundred miles on the clock. The only issue remaining is that they don’t like salty, wet roads which destroys the finish-not all riders care about it and just go through winter as a commuter. 2021 models are euro 5 and have better switchgear and rear mudguard if that bothers you. I got a small discount because mine - deluxe model-is a 2020. The dealer I use MHB in Kirby Stephen seems very knowledgeable and nothing is too much trouble. Get a ride on one, use A roads and motorways because that’s where it’s least enjoyable. On the backroads it’s a belter.
Hi, love the video. I’m looking at maybe getting a used one and am wondering what the dealer support has been like if needed? I’m in Oxfordshire and dealers seem few and far between, my main concern being ‘what happens if they stop being available in the UK’ and any difficulties that may arrive with parts availability and servicing? How’s it been for you?
Wasn’t great. I had a couple of niggles and the dealer looked at it. But didn’t really act like they cared. Nice guys (in bodmin) But I don’t think customer support was a priority. I had a few cut outs that didn’t happen when dealer was inspecting. So they didn’t really chance the issue. They did replace a faulty headlight fairly quickly tho. Be warned. I found it tricky to sell it on again. Expect to lose a fair bit. Most dealers won’t want it in trade. And second hand value seems low.
@@biscuitsalive Thank you so much for replying - I did have these concerns as its a bit of an unknown. So difficult to find a lightweight dual sport/trail bike with a bit of grunt and decent road manners. What dod you move on to?
Very cool. I haven't come across this make/model before. Looks good. I'm waiting for my CRF300L to arrive. I sold my CRF250L last year after 7 years of ownership. Enjoy:-)
The Honda is a more dependable option no doubt. Always a bit of a risk with smaller manufacturers. But it’s nice to have something a bit more original. (Every time I park it I get people asking what it is and saying “nice bike” etc. )
Very Cool review. BTW would you please tell me what model is your helmet ? Can you really ride offroad with UV shield On and windshield lift up ? Doesn't close up ? THanks man
Great video, spot on! I'm on the same road as you were so really curious how would you compare it with 390 adv? Ride and fillings on them? Thanks a lot and many happy km's 🍻 Ride safe 🤘
Trust me, 150kg for 43hp is a great power to weight ratio and fun, like supermoto fun which imo are the best bikes to drive. And unbeatable for the price. Great purchase!
nice vid mate. Ive just sold my CRF for same bike. just awaiting delivery at Thor. How you finding it? Do you feel the need for any changes, seat comfy, windshield, that kinda thing?
I haven’t used it for any really long trips yet. So seats been fine for me. Mines due first main service. Prob do a follow up vid after that’s done. Only really added luggage. Rest is stock. But if you plan long hauls then a screen would be a good idea. I get tired quick from buffering /noise when travelling around 70mph. 40 mins up the A30 feels noisy and much longer than it actually is. Watch out for water getting into dash. It doesn’t seem to affect the actual bike. But it makes the warning lamps come on if it’s very wet. (When it rains it tells me my high beam is on... when it isn’t)
@@pedrothecornishviking9981 no. It seems to be a common thing. Like I said it doesn’t actually affect anything. The light isn’t on high beam. Just the indictor lamp. So I can live with it as long as bike performs reliably.
Will do. Had one engine light come on 2 days ago. Took it back and they said there’s no issues. Not run in properly yet so could just be a running in hiccup.
@@biscuitsalive Thanks a lot for the reply! really looking forward to getting my hands on one, think it's possible to make new sidepanels a bit more narrow? would go to the dealer and check for myself, but the closest one is a 9 1/2 hour drive away...
@@jonasjeaggi4575 I’ve been riding standing up a lot today. I’m getting used to the position. It now feels fine. But haven’t done much heavy off-roading yet.
Great video! I had almost decided that my next bike would be the Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE but then I found this bike. It looks fantastic and the price is really good. But being a 6'3 rider this might feel a bit too small or what do you think?
I’m 5’7” or 5’8” ish. And the rally version is slightly tall for me. But it doesn’t feel like a big bike. So maybe. If you are a small 6’3 u maybe ok. If you are a big chap then yes. Maybe go for a bigger bike. But deff try the rally variant and not just scrambler. As there is a fair difference on the feel/height.
Update! Here’s my review after 1000 miles on the bike-
th-cam.com/video/qkOQVeMxGIc/w-d-xo.html
Congratulations on your new bike, looks really nice and colour scheme is good , my favourite colour green, happy adventures hopefully more of great videos
Thanks! Green is my favourite too!
I've been interested in the Mutt 250 but there seems too many issues on the Facebook group, bits falling off, indicators and battery failing within months of new, bogging down (fuel injector/sensor), and corrosion.
These Fantics ooze quality in comparison, at least that's my impressions on TH-cam.
Hard to say. I sold mine for various reasons.
It never let me down, but it ran super hot. And I would let it cool down after slow/tricky uphill sections.
A few cuts outs (dealer could not find cause) and a headlight failure.
But I just wouldn’t trust their longevity for years and years. (Like I would a Honda/Yamaha etc. )
Not that I have any real evidence of the longevity being poor...
I just didn’t like my chances of owning it for many years without a serious issue.
Finally one 'review' where you can clearly hear the exhausts in the end of the movie! Seems rare to find movies where they record exhaust sounds on TH-cam while driving.. but honestly the sound is what makes it appealing or not. I don't know what you are used to, but to me it sounds fun, only a bit like a "tree shredder". Or a farmers tractor... I'm used to a Ducati Monster 800 with Performance Titanium exhausts, I guess without muffler, so compared to that it's always a downgrade, however, on that bike you couldn't ride long without hearing protection because it was loud! It attracted police multiple times... even so bad that in a tunnel of more than a kilometer lenght the police heard me at the end while I entered the tunnel... not a wonder because I drove around 200 km/h and that's also the reason I'm looking for this bike, because it's risky driving something that goes that fast!
Glad it helped, not really a proper review, I thought I may do one of those after a few hundred miles, to check for any problems etc. so far its been good, the dashboard doesn't like getting wet, is my main complaint on the build quality, doesn't affect the performance, but the 'high beam' indicator (not the actual light) comes on if its gets very rained on.
coming up to my first big service soon, so i can start to open her up more now.
also, she does seem to run hot, which is only a problem, if you are going slow in traffic etc.... but that maybe down to the fact she is still running in.
I ride through Hayle a lot, from Falmouth. The coastal road up to Zennor and around to Land's End is a beaut...as long as you don't get stuck behind a tour bus 😂
Great vid, I've owned a Husky Svartpilen and loved it. Riding a Triumph Tiger XCX 800 atm, but looking to trade her in for the new Fantic Caballero 500 Explorer they've just realeased!
I’ve gone and got a tenere 700 now.
Wanted something for longer trips. (Windprotection etc)
Do often miss the Caballero tho.
@@biscuitsalive interesting, I had the same plan with the Triumph. First bike was the Husky, moved to Triumph for the longer distance stuff and found myself using it as a commuter and not a lot else. Hence looking to go back to where it all began with the Caballero, plus I really want to get into green Laning 👍
I’ve been studying this scrambler to buy soon as a second bike. Hoot to have a blast on dirt roads and gravel tracks. I believe I won’t go wrong getting one..?
This bike has my attention! Be interested in some longer term reviews.
I’m at about 450 miles. Will wait till after my first big service and do a vid then.
(Also do one when I hit some proper off road stuff with it.)
Congratulations on the new bike. I was having a good look at these and thought they ticked alot of boxes, but I'm going to go for something more road biased. Will follow the channel to see up coming adventures and reviews
Yep no point getting a high, long suspension travel bike if you are on road 90%+
That said. This is very good fun on the road.
You can chuck it around easily.
The scrambler is the road biased version. It loses the long suspenders, has different damping and really grippy dual sport tyres. Love mine. Chucked in a KTM990 for it. Light, raw, simple motorcycling with a dash of style. A willing little motor that’s always up for it like a daft puppy after a ball and ridiculously nimble handling. I found the brakes a bit lacking, but that’s coming from a twin 4 pot radial Brembo set up. Haven’t attempted any off road yet.
@@nockianlifter661 how many miles have you done on it in total? Heard of head gasket issue after a few thousand miles
@@mattpierceplayz I asked the same question. Head Gaskets, suspension and Cush drive rubbers are already sorted out on 2020 models. There was an issue in the factory properly filling the coolant which caused overheating. I’ve only got a few hundred miles on the clock. The only issue remaining is that they don’t like salty, wet roads which destroys the finish-not all riders care about it and just go through winter as a commuter. 2021 models are euro 5 and have better switchgear and rear mudguard if that bothers you. I got a small discount because mine - deluxe model-is a 2020. The dealer I use MHB in Kirby Stephen seems very knowledgeable and nothing is too much trouble. Get a ride on one, use A roads and motorways because that’s where it’s least enjoyable. On the backroads it’s a belter.
@@nockianlifter661 thanks, this puts my mind at rest. The bike is definitely back in the mix.
Hi, love the video. I’m looking at maybe getting a used one and am wondering what the dealer support has been like if needed? I’m in Oxfordshire and dealers seem few and far between, my main concern being ‘what happens if they stop being available in the UK’ and any difficulties that may arrive with parts availability and servicing? How’s it been for you?
Wasn’t great.
I had a couple of niggles and the dealer looked at it. But didn’t really act like they cared.
Nice guys (in bodmin)
But I don’t think customer support was a priority.
I had a few cut outs that didn’t happen when dealer was inspecting.
So they didn’t really chance the issue.
They did replace a faulty headlight fairly quickly tho.
Be warned. I found it tricky to sell it on again.
Expect to lose a fair bit. Most dealers won’t want it in trade. And second hand value seems low.
@@biscuitsalive Thank you so much for replying - I did have these concerns as its a bit of an unknown. So difficult to find a lightweight dual sport/trail bike with a bit of grunt and decent road manners. What dod you move on to?
@@hughrobertson-payne914 had a few bikes since then. Had a T7. Then a 300L. Now on a KTM 350excf
@@biscuitsalive I'll check your videos for reviews! All the best 🙂
Very cool. I haven't come across this make/model before. Looks good. I'm waiting for my CRF300L to arrive. I sold my CRF250L last year after 7 years of ownership. Enjoy:-)
The Honda is a more dependable option no doubt.
Always a bit of a risk with smaller manufacturers.
But it’s nice to have something a bit more original.
(Every time I park it I get people asking what it is and saying “nice bike” etc. )
Very Cool review. BTW would you please tell me what model is your helmet ? Can you really ride offroad with UV shield On and windshield lift up ? Doesn't close up ?
THanks man
It’s oneal. It’s ok. I want to upgrade to be honest. Bit noisy and bigger than it needs to be.
But comfy and drop sun shade is super useful.
By way I stuck reflective strips all over it for better visibility. It’s almost plain black new. (Just a subtle ONEAL writing etc)
Great video, spot on! I'm on the same road as you were so really curious how would you compare it with 390 adv? Ride and fillings on them? Thanks a lot and many happy km's 🍻 Ride safe 🤘
Please do a Video how the Bike is after a few Miles. Sweet Bike 😁
I will do.
I’m at 700miles now.
Waiting for first service. (Booked in next month)
Then il feel like I’m ready for a proper review.
Trust me, 150kg for 43hp is a great power to weight ratio and fun, like supermoto fun which imo are the best bikes to drive. And unbeatable for the price. Great purchase!
Don’t like supermotos they’re crazy expensive for what you actually get, basically just silly dirt bikes with road tyres not real bikes like cruisers
Well, 150kg, without any liquid, means apronx. 165 kg ready to go with gas. The power is 40 HP (Euro4) and now 38,5 HP (Euro 5) ;-)
nice vid mate. Ive just sold my CRF for same bike. just awaiting delivery at Thor. How you finding it? Do you feel the need for any changes, seat comfy, windshield, that kinda thing?
I haven’t used it for any really long trips yet. So seats been fine for me.
Mines due first main service. Prob do a follow up vid after that’s done.
Only really added luggage. Rest is stock.
But if you plan long hauls then a screen would be a good idea. I get tired quick from buffering /noise when travelling around 70mph.
40 mins up the A30 feels noisy and much longer than it actually is.
Watch out for water getting into dash. It doesn’t seem to affect the actual bike. But it makes the warning lamps come on if it’s very wet. (When it rains it tells me my high beam is on... when it isn’t)
@@biscuitsalive thanks for the reply. Have you had the fault on the dash looked at under warranty?
@@pedrothecornishviking9981 no. It seems to be a common thing.
Like I said it doesn’t actually affect anything. The light isn’t on high beam. Just the indictor lamp.
So I can live with it as long as bike performs reliably.
subbed! love that bike! let us know how you are getting on with it after a bit?
Will do.
Had one engine light come on 2 days ago.
Took it back and they said there’s no issues.
Not run in properly yet so could just be a running in hiccup.
@@biscuitsalive Thanks a lot for the reply! really looking forward to getting my hands on one, think it's possible to make new sidepanels a bit more narrow? would go to the dealer and check for myself, but the closest one is a 9 1/2 hour drive away...
@@jonasjeaggi4575 I’ve been riding standing up a lot today. I’m getting used to the position. It now feels fine. But haven’t done much heavy off-roading yet.
I like this bike. I'll watch your 1,000 mile review and then comment.
Nice vid. What’s your mic equipment please? Does a good job 👌
Thanks. That was a rodemic lav. Going into iPhone.
Great video!
I had almost decided that my next bike would be the Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE but then I found this bike. It looks fantastic and the price is really good.
But being a 6'3 rider this might feel a bit too small or what do you think?
I’m 5’7” or 5’8” ish. And the rally version is slightly tall for me. But it doesn’t feel like a big bike. So maybe. If you are a small 6’3 u maybe ok. If you are a big chap then yes. Maybe go for a bigger bike.
But deff try the rally variant and not just scrambler. As there is a fair difference on the feel/height.
@@biscuitsalive How is the rally a different feel/height? Is it bigger or smaller?
@@g_harvey5497 rally fantic? Compared to scrambler?
It’s higher with adjustable suspension. Not much difference apart from that.
(More ground clearance and more suspension travel too of course.
Congrats on the purchase! What year is it and does it have the revised engine mapping for 2021?
It’s the latest euro5 ones. (They changed swirhchgear and a bunch of other stuff)
It’s brand new. :)
@@biscuitsalive Awesome, enjoy! Can't wait to order mine, think I'm set on the new cream on tan spec Rally.
@@michaelmilne5922 that does look nice!
Also I noticed the rear mudguard is now solid. Not with a hole in. Hopefully that helps with mud up your back that some people noted.
Amazing bike! Congratulations! So you fly fpv and ride a motorcycle too? I'm doing the same!
Sweet. It seems like a good combo.
Fpv gear is light and the bike gets you to cool places to fly. :)
@@biscuitsalive That's a point!😁
I'd like to see a long term review to show the reliability of the bike.
Sorry. Sold it to get a tenere700.
Wanted something for longer trips. (Wind protection etc)
But I never had any issues while I had it.
Isn't the exhaust a cool touch it doesnt get hot.?
Yep it does get hot.
But still running it in at moment. So prob runs hotter at moment.
This bike is very interesting
the thing looks smol
No kidding
Cabayerro
I’m not Italian. So I says what I sees. :)