The only player that truly is a One of a Kind is LeBron!! King James will never be replicated by anyone. I mean, He is the only player that’s 100% flawlessly undefeated in his NBA Career!! Nobody has And will ever do that! Not even MJ. Kobe? He ain’t even a top 100 NBA player. Literally The worst NBA Players in history can easily Replicate his game if they wanted to.
@@shookfng I absolutely disagree, like really? Human beings are not one dimensional. Obviously there are many aspects that define one person. Mentality is only one aspect. Honestly, I did not think that I had to explain that.
It's so painfully obvious that LeBron has members of the media campaigning for him, it's sick, never seen this with any great, including Kobe, who has legit GOAT credentials. But the difference is that the Kobe's fan base has enough people who respect the past and rsspect winning that it was never like this.
So disrespectful. They’re brothers. You guys are delusional and make up narratives in your own heads grow up. Y’all are just as bad as every other Stan base lmao
Kobe was the whole package. We just don’t see that everyday. Especially post-MJ. Man wasn’t afraid, fierce competitor, intelligent, poised, and very focused. Didn’t need or want to sway the media or those who didn’t like him lmao. I remember him saying he loved when away game-crowds would chant hateful shit to him. It was fuel. I truly miss his style of play and how close we came to 6 rings. I’ve always been a Lakers fan and he will always be the reason why 🤷🏽♂️
i'll never understand why lebron came to the lakers. i guess being in LA is a good business move, but in terms of his legacy, he will always and forever be in kobe's shadow, even if he got to 6 rings. as a lakers fan, i'd rather have lebron on my team than not, but he'll never get the same LA Love that kobe got.
LeGoat James will only be The only player that definitively has the Whole Package. All MJ and Kobe could ever do was score Lose. They have 0 Impact on Winning. King James is the only player that’s Never lost a Single NBA Game in his 20 Year Career. Nobody’s ever replicating that Again. LeBron’s easily the GOAT!
only real competitors understand this and embrace it as a plus for them! the world full of soft people so everyone which is most people and they dont think like that! most people are weak minded and run from the grind
You're absolutely right. Kobe had to be removed so the false duel MJ-Lebron could take place. But tricks like this do not work in the long run. They can create media noise and fool around kids, but basketball fans who actually lived the Jordan and Kobe eras won't forget what they have seen. The whole operation will backlash.
@@nygmatik2699 That's been my experience on social media and sports media. No one is telling fans on Twitter to exclude Kobe. They do it on their own volition because Kobe just isn't that guy.
@sotiriosdrokalos Players who were truly dominant and changed the game were Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem and Jordan. Neither LeBron or Kobe makes that list. Getting upset over talking heads who are nothing more than entertainment serves no purpose.
The thing that break me the most is hearing people say you only rank kobe so high because he died, when in reality he became underrated the second that happened. A guy that was constantly in top 5 convo, now apparently outside the top 10.
Apparently, he’s not even a top 100 player. Every normal average human being can easily replicate Kobe’s Game if they wanted to. There’s literally nothing special about him.
@@rockyq2093 wtf is wrong with you being a clown and bringing stuff outside the court, you sound like a salty feminist, if we gonna play that game why the media don't disrespect lebron's legacy for cheating on his wife constantly and having to use peds to perfom on high level and have an advantage?, you people see what you want to only.
Good to hear that. You must be the only person living on this planet that would heap that much Praise to Kobe. Let’s be real here. He’s not even a Top 100 NBA Player. The Worst NBA Players can easily be like Kobe, if not Better, if they wanted to.
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 LOL that's a bit much. Kobe is easily a top 10 player, and you can make an argument for being as high as 5. He's not the GOAT, top 2, or top 3 like his fanboys claim. There is ZERO objective argument for it.
So LeBron goes to LA and that’s when they really started diminishing Kobe’s legacy by trying to brainwash average viewers and average basketball fans with silly statistics, but real basketball players and real basketball fans already know.
Me who has been rooting for the Lakers since the 80s when they had Magic and Kareem once LeBron joined the team I stopped rooting for them. Of course the "If you're blah blah blah then you're blah blah blah no a real Laker fan" reaction is typical LOL. Truth is there's some lines that cannot be crossed and LeBron is that cross, like seeing Halley's Comet once or twice in a lifetime without the guarantee it will be back. Not surprisingly I'm not the only one out here in LA that took that stance.
@@itshiho I’m not surprised. And your reasoning makes perfect sense. It’s a slap in the face to all laker greats to watch one man hijack everything they built and to add to that he has UNDER achieved as a laker. I’m surprised it’s not more laker faithfuls who are defending their legacy. Oh, and Jeannie Buss isn’t helping!
Kobe all day The rest of this shit is garbage The way they talk and act is like they played apart of his demise..... F**k The media F**k they script lebron Is a good athlete But Jordan Kareem Kobe Duncan Lebron like 19 out of 20 Goofy as dude wasn't claiming goat when Bean Bryant Was on deck ....lol Not at the staple center It's sad how the lil Buss Daughter drank the Clutch juice and now got the lakers looking like shit And now it's all AD fault .... Lebron ain't no different from the chick's Zion banging They just wanna be saved Wes...
@@itshihoi loved lakers too and when he gone i will love them again but yea he represents everything that is not the laker way!!He flops,makes excuses,load manages,fakes injuries, and didnt play defense for a couple years!!Alot more but yea wish he never came!!He got carried to west finals and they act like he did it lmao
Kobe was building his power and influence behind the scenes and growing his wealth when he passed away. By now some serious shit would have gone down within the organization and Kobe would either be running things or eventually ownership in the Lakers.
@@differentsame9402 Where'd you hear that one? I do actually remember in 2012-2013 season Jalen Rose would tell anyone that would listen to him that MJ was going to jump on Kobe's Lakers at age 50 if Kobe was about to get his 6th. I thought it was crazy because no way Kobe would go for that.
@@jaketwigg1065 The Kobe one seems far fetched, but Id rather talk about it than shut people down immediately. But Jalen Rose said exactly that in 2013 about MJ, into microphones and cameras.
@@differentsame9402 You said Kobe was coming back in 2020 to get his 6th ring. I didn't say anything about Lebron doing anything in 2013 or anytime. Kobe is my GOAT. Something got mixed up in the text.
Henry Abbott was one of the biggest culprits he wrote an article naming players saying they didn't want to play with Kobe and everyone of those players came out and said it was an absolute lie Abbott made it up
Ya, Truehoop used to be cool, but then Abbott started coming out with some weird ass takes that kinda were precursors to what we see today. He might've been one of the first to suggest that Lebron could have surpassed MJ already and this was like 2014. Then he suggested that pretty much everything should be a foul and that got him flames super hard, havent really heard from him since
What Nick is missing is that some things can only enhance your legacy and not hurt them. MJ is not playing so if he doesn't win as an owner it's not going to hurt his playing legacy especially playing in a small market but if he wins it will enhance it. Just like when Kobe won an Oscar, that enhanced his legacy but if he never won one it wouldn't hurt it or Magic Johnson becoming even more successful off the court enhanced his legacy but wouldn't hurt it if he didn't.
Kobe and MJ Never Won Anything as a basketball Player. So let’s just call it as it is. LeBron is easily the GOAT Because he is the only player in NBA History that’s 100% Undefeated in the NBA. Everybody wants to rave about Michael Jordan not losing 3 games in a row in a 8 year period. It’s quite literally the most Overrated feat of all time. Especially when you consider that LeBron’s never lost a Single game in his entire 20 year career.
@@J23LA24u ever heard of a player named black Jesus aka he who walks on air aka the black cat aka air Jordan?he also has 30k+ and 9 1st team defense,a dpoy only player to win the dpoy and scoring title in the same season,rip Kobe
@@fitzroy6970 well, first, MJ is awesome and the GOAT, but no blasphemy, please. There’s already enough praise. Second, I was not responding to the original comment, but rather the second comment. In fact, the record Kobe has is tied with MJ and Gary Payton.
I've said this countless times. Once LeBron retires, all these media idiots will stab him in the back and dick ride some other popular dominant player in the NBA... Once that happens, people will start to appreciate TD and KB more.
Kobe 8 or 24 never needed media members to hype him up. Kobe 8/24 came to play every day and showed everyone where he was headed, no matter what. His game did all his talking.
This is the most legit Kobe take I've heard in a long time 💯. The LeBron love was manufactured steadily since the first chip in Miami....and Kobe was still droppin 30 on em every Christmas Day💯🔥✊🏾
@@xavicastorena4739 the best player on the floor when(in his prime) he flamed out in Dallas? That was Dirk. Just one reference. And look up LeBron's quote about Kobe while LeBron was in his prime. Kobe is the best we have in this league... Because the numbers and consistency don't lie....Nick Wright does 😉
@@xavicastorena4739 Correct the same Dirk he had an historic run. The difference is Kobe already had 5 Rings 2 finals MVPs an MVP, was 34 years old and was considered the best player in the league the decade prior. There are levels💯
@@xavicastorena4739 Kobe got swept by Dirk the same year Dirk drug LeBron and won the title. I know you didn't start this conversation not knowing that lol. And yes Kobe was best 2 way player from 2002 to 2012. The 3peat was 2000 to 2002 and yeah Shaq was the most dominant but how you the best when you have to sit late in the fourth because you're a liability at the free throw line? Save the laughing emoji for a winning argument 😂. I did like the back and forth tho💯✊🏾
LeBron also has the most losses in playoff history, he's the only one to have been swept in 3 different decades and he has the most turnovers in NBA history. All these things are a consequence of the fact that he has played for 20 years. It's clear that he's not a winner - his loosing finals record, his chokejobs, his attempts to ringchase by constructing superteams and his pathetic performances with Team USA speak for themselves. As for Russel, noone says he's the GOAT because he played with a stacked team in era the league consisted of 8-12 teams, free agency did not exist and he was only gifted defensively
@@Artrail1000 4 rings is 4 rings. Every year you either win or lose, whether it's the Finals or in the rounds before then. Y'all act like losing before the Finals is somehow better.
I have been saying this for years. Thanks for doing this video because more people need to hear this and go do their research on what Shannon Sharpe and Nick Wright said about Kobe before 2011!
Same here. I've always asked the question of "When did LeBron pass Kobe?" Iooked everywhere and could never find a logical answer, especially when you place their accomplishments side by side. It was always strange when SAS at ESPN posted a schmoozing disclaimer for LeBron James on the screen every time they had to criticize LeBron James negatively. All o it was ramped up once Klutch Sports Agency was established. With all of the pro-LeBron propaganda spewed by Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe, it was screaming screamingly obvious they were bought! It was my issue with Klutch Sports' existence while LeBron James was still active. Just like Wright and Sharpe are bought, I believe when LeBron James recruits players to join Klutch, he gets paid. I wouldn't be surprised if it's buried in player contracts as a hidden fee. Like the ones hidden in the prices or airline, concert, and event tickets.
I have always asked myself that Kobe is my favorite player ever it always made me disgusted with the disrespect the MEDIA gave Kobe the only ones who know are the ones who watched and played against him look at the Legends like Tim Duncan KG AI Bosh when they went to the HOF the way they talked about Kobe R.I.P to my G.O.A.T 8♾️24 💜💛 Thank You for my Favorite Basketball moments
@@xavicastorena4739 One thing I always laugh about is that Kobetards always call the 2012 Thunder "the baby Thunder" even though they spanked Kobe in 5 games. What were they when Kobe beat them in 2010?? The In Utero Thunder???
I respect your assessment of the Manba. Also he was an international sensation because he was multilingual and relatable to people around the world. I truly miss Kobe and watch his success outside of basketball.
I said this was the agenda all along 1) The media was against Kobe since 2003 (Colorado) 2) The perception that he "ran off shaq" 3) Post 2003 Kobe was not "marketable" enter 2003 draft class (Lebron) the new "Face" 4) Kobe gets MVP snubbed several times 5) I am sure League told lebron to go to the Lakers - Kobe retires 2016 - enter the new "Face" of the lakers Lebron 6) Lebron passes kobe in points on 1-25-20 in kobes birthplace PHILADELPHIA 7) ONE DAY LATER 1-26-20 Kobe "dies" in. (which I do believe kobe faked his death) story for another day 8) And who wins the championship in 2020 ? THE LAKERS on Oct 11, 2020 9) Oct 11, 2020 why is that day important ???? = this was a holiday= FATHER DAUGHTER DAY (Kobe, Gigi) Writing Kobe "out of the script" was the plan all along to boost Lebron in the public subconscious to compare him with Jordan The NBA could not do that with Kobe (who played like Jordan) and won 5 championships "IN THE WAY"
@@xaviervega468 maybe you are just ignorant about how "Hollywood" works - HERE ARE THE IRREFUTABLE FACTS 1) Kobe Bryant "dies" at 41 years old his final game of his career he dropped 60 points the rest of his team scored 41 points 2) Kobes final shot of his career he was being guarded by number 41 3) Kobe checked out of the game at 4.1 seconds left in the game 4) Kobes 81 point game was his 666th career reg season game - the rest of his team scored 41 points 5) Lebron passed kobe in points on 1-25-20 in PHILADELPHIA where kobe is from. kobe and his daughter "die" one day later ? 6) Lakers win the championship that same season on October 11th 2020 which was a holiday Called FATHER DAUGHTER DAY You probably are blue pill and think all of this is just "coincidence" but I assure you I have more than 50 more examples regarding Kobe, Lebron, and yes even Jordan that I can use
Because The media is 100% right. MJ and Kobe was just Average, if not even Below average Basketball players that can Easily be replicated. LeGoat James is and will forever be the only Player that’s so flawlessly dominant, he’s never lost even a single NBA Game at any point in his 20 year career. Nobody’s ever gonna replicate that.
Im 1000% with you, the Kobe slander is ridiculous!! And the fact that he passed away and all people say “he’s only high in the list because he died”. He’s been a in the conversation for top 2, the media are the only people saying otherwise
You remember this is when the Tim Duncan debates vs Kobe also started. If u rock with Tim then fine but for the ppl who have been having Jordan Kobe, and Kobe Bron debates idk how they suddenly act like Tim was ever in those conversations.
@@asundelgun3487 Depends how old you are... I remember doing Dr J George Gervin Finger rolls, Then it was either Magic or Bird... Then It was Jordan, and then Kobe...
I also noticed that when Lebron was going to beat Kareems all time scoring record that all of a sudden Nick Wright started putting Kareem at number 2 after Lebron so it justifies Lebron at number 1 because he beat his all time record.
@sosaraycharles358 team accomplishments matter or not because when we bring up rings bronsexuals say it's a team accomplishment. Man to mN 1 on 1. ME vs You kobe owned the queen
Preach it brother. The disprespect for my guy Kobe Bean Bryant was real. Anyone who watches and knows basketball knows greatness. I feel like they just be doing all of that for views
Every player that got love for Kobe need let it be known when they on TV that they ain’t tolerating no more disrespect towards Kobe. Ong! AI, KG n them OG’s legends been on it. ✊🏾
Your analysis on Kobe was spot on. Truly a savant. Kobe definitely a top 3 man. I’m baffled by the constant disrespect. It truly never made sense to me.
I think your on point with this take saying "Kobe was the guy they needed to move out of the Equation of the Goat Debate" but the problem is you can't sit up there and say a 3 peat and back to back without duo and significantly less talented team (in my opinion) doesn't factor in he was never better than LeBron and I don't know why or how this started I just know its blasphemy
Dude. You seemed a little mad😂😂 It's not that serious. All these lists, including yourself, are OPINIONS!! The same way you feel Kobe is at the top, someone else can find reasons for him to NOT be in that top 5 spot. It's all opinions & you seem a little upset that people don't feel the same way you feel. Like I said, it's not that serious. It's all opinions. Btw....every professional athlete gets booed. I seen Jordan get booed in Boston & I seen Kobe get booed in Denver. Kobe wasn't a popular player when he was playing. People didn't appreciate him until after he retired & that's the same thing that's going to happen to Lebron after he retires.
lechock didn't show up for kobe's passing shows lechock hated kobe and he was happy kobe was gone. who pays media and put 2 face to a friend. only lechock would do this bs.
Redeem team doc came out and no one in the media talked about it … cause of how it highlighted kobe and specifically made clear he was the game changer to bringing gold back … media didn’t say a thing . While the coaches , Lebron, wade , and so many other players in that documentary said he has that guy
Which is why this idea that Lebron is paying the media to bash Kobe's legacy is pants on head RETARDED. Lebron and DWade PRODUCED the Redeem Team documentary.
My guy this is one of the best Kobe videos you’ve dropped and I’ve been rocking with you for a minute. You word for word stated what I’ve been saying for years about this topic.
He's not better than Jordan, but imo he is greater than Kobe (& I'm a huge Kobe fan. he's my favorite player) I think if you look at it objectively with non biased eyes lebron's resume is greater.
@usa5439 come on now we are better than that. Use context, no disrespect to Bill he was great in his era but it was completely different back then. 2 playoffs series, Conference Finals & Finals, 8 teams, just a different time.
CHARLES 😂🙌🏾 You on your stuff comrade !!! You even called out the fake condolence announcement Nick Wrong made when Kobe passed 🤣 this is why your that dude! Love it.
🤦♂️ Both Chris Paul and LeBron James look like clowns playing with the children of their peers. Chris Paul is desperate for just one championship and LeBron James is desperate for just one more championship to at least tie Magic Johnson and the late Kobe Bryant, because as is, if he retired right now, then he wouldn’t even be a close #2 to Michael Jordan. Six titles to four titles would put LeBron at a distant #2 to MJ, or maybe retiring with 4 rings would force LeBron out of the Number 2 spot.
@@frandonfrank10Yet you LeBron people would have a meltdown if he retired today. You all secretly don’t want him to retire right now because LeBron James is too far behind.
@@rollandcurtisoffExpoInThe30s If only you have dumb sounds trying to guess what I'm thinking because that has nothing to do with it. You obviously know nothing about basketball and speaks on your feelings you at least.
LeBron doesn’t have the number 2 spot. The media keeps repeating that over and over until people have started believing it just cause they hear it so much.
Why does lebron deserve dosrespect though. Doesnt have to be your fav, but its always disrespect against mj or kobe, but never lebron? That man is human too
They hate Kobe for the same reason they hate Kareem it’s because they didn’t kiss asses. Notice how before Colorado the media loved a Kobe but after that they hated him same thing happened to Kareem when he came out as Muslim and both Kareem and Kobe noticed how the media switched up so they wouldn’t give interviews so they labeled them as luffs bad teammates.
LOL they hated Kareem because of his religion and because he spoke out on civil rights. They hated Kobe because he got caught cheating on his wife and caught rape charges. Not nearly the same thing.
@@xaviervega468 my point is the media love them before those things and afterwards they switched. A lot of nba players cheat it’s the fact Kobe “rapped” a white girl had she been black nobody would’ve cared. In a country where a white woman can call a police for a black man walking in park
Kobe was still having current nba players going to his academy guys like booker kawhi etc.. the level of respect for him was crazy he definitely surprised me too see how popular he was during the 08 Olympics I hated his ass honestly but respected him more when he won ring number 5 he shot terrible so he affected the game in other ways to win
M.j.and Kobe had that killer instinct on the court something lebron never had but when you tell these lebron fans that lebron never had that same killer instinct they will always try to find a way to talk bad about m.j and Kobe game.
@@lamarstapleton6222 He didn't rape the white girl 🙄 it was consensual sex. A cheating encounter. They tried to pull my boy Kobe down, but it didn't work.
I grew up in the Kobe era and memory of 90's MJ godlike status was still vivid at the time, so I used to take for granted that a player of era-transcending, epoch-defining excellence would always be around. I was not able to appreciate the mental fortitude, toughness and workethic behind the scenes that was ultimately responsible along with talent for the winning and the accumulation of championships. It was not until I saw the careers of LeBron, KD and Curry pan out that I began to appreciate the true all-time greats.
Awesome content and insight have a fantastic and blessed safe night my brother Kobe don’t like Lebron like that so their the hate from Nick and Shannon now Kobe can’t defend himself this is so disgusting and disrespectful by Nick and Shannon
Black mamba > Bron 24/7 365, it ain't even close. I get so pissed with these media clowns like Nick Wrong pushing the same bullcrap narrative. Keep exposing them. Kob's the goat of this generation, period.
One more thing you Gotta stop bringing up old tweets from 10 years ago Obviously people’s opinion change when the guy they’re talking about proceeds to win a couple more championships and MVPs 🤡
That's fine if 1 active player is still building his legacy, but it doesn't make any sense at all to drop from 2, down to 9 when most of the players on that list haven't suited up to play since the early 2000s at the earliest 😂
So now Kobe was never BOOED?! You gon get emotional & just lie like it's okay?? 😂😂 he got booed in Philly (where he claims but not really from. Its actually the suburbs outside of Philly) & said his feelings where hurt. He played up there wit them soft white boys
Hey Charles, now that is great. One thing is wrong, it's just not some people, millions of people around the world know Kobe is way more better than Le fluffy and Kobe is also a top 3 NBA great of all time. You see, kobe even went to a place in South east Asia where the Basketball court is in a not so good community. Yet he went there to show no matter who he was that day, he didn't forget the places where he went when he was 19. He's that kind of person. Saw him lot of times in person, he even threw a basketball right beside me as a price to one of his events. Unfortunately I got 2 digi cams that's why I wasn't able to get the Basketball. But yep, just shout his name as loud as you can in a loud crowd and he would still try to find you. Shannon James and Nick rong can have their false narratives againts Kobe. But nope a True NBA legend Kobe will always be remembered and protected by the one's that he inspired. Just go back to the video of Nick rong againts Jim Jackson in 2018. Look at how a kobe discreditor againts a former NBA player who played 14 seasons clashed. Nick schooled by Jim, and Nick's last effort is explain how kob doesn't let some one off the hook if he let Lakeshow Lakers loss game 7 againts suns in 2006. If Jim, just said you got what you want right? You don't want Kobe to shoot that's the end result. 4 yrs later Kobe eliminated Steve Nash And The suns in their home floor and kobe went to win his 5th title in 7 finals apperances. In hia 14th season. Phoenix suns 0 titles till today. Easy!
As a big fan of Kobe and Lebron I hate these discussions. I'll say this Kobe was by far the most hated player until he won those last 2 rings. After he won those rings it's a lot of Kobe haters that had to shut up for a long time, then when Lebron began to get his rings it was a rush to move Kobe aside. Like those people started to creep back out tryna push his legacy aside but you can't do that when damn near every young star in the league is wearing his sneakers and will tell you they was heavy influenced by him.
no one ever thought Kobe was going to surpass MJ because Kobe’s first three titles were led by Shaq. MJ fans always knew MJ was far better because of his 6 finals MVPs.
True that was shaq's the offense ran through a prime shaq but he still did his thing during those championship years he did not carry kobe bryant at all I remember when shaq fouled out against the pacers and outplayed reggie miller so that tells me shaq was the man no doubt but in big games especially when was in foul trouble he sealed the deal and then later on that decade proved shaq never carried him at all by winning his 4th championship and his first finals mvp
@@jimmycharlotin7050 He did not carry Kobe, but those were Shaq's teams. Kobe said as much himself, that's why his rings with Pau meant so much to him.
@xaviervega468 but you got to admit that 2000-01 playoff up until the nba finals against the sixers kobe was the best player in the playoffs I'm talking about back to back 40 point plus games and ten plus rebounds against the lakers biggest rivals the kings and spurs I don't if you watched those series but it did he was playing incredible basketball that 00-01 laker team get overlooked in history I got alot of respect for the 95-96 bulls and 2016-17 warriors but the 2000-01 lakers were great also
Bro whoever you talking about making videos about you. It’s kinda annoying: I watch every video you produce: I come here for your thoughts. Please don’t worry about them
I’m sorry but Kobe is not in the same stratosphere as MJ when it comes to his proficiency as a ball player. It tells me a lot if you assert that Kobe was even on the same level as Jordan as a shot creator. There’s a reason that jordan shot far more efficiently. Kobe fans go at Bron fans like they’re the delusional ones and I think Kobe fans are just as bad
@wangtang12 Nonsense. A pantheon great player like Kobe is miles closer to the GOAT(MJ) than to almost any player that's ever stepped on the hardwood. Use some logic here, buddy.
He has the same skill as Jordan, but he dosen't have Jordan's freakish athleticism. Whereas Lebron has Jordan's freakish athleticism, but not his skill.
@ResidentNick go study the history of the game and learn something then comeback and comment. Kobe is nowhere close to being on Jordan's level. He's not even top 5.
@@Tamburello_1994Lebron will eat Jordan alive. Little MJ won’t have nothing for Lebron if he was in todays game. MJ PLAYED bums. Lebron beat the best team ever assembled while MJ beat the SuperSonics lol
Rip Kobe, he was my favorite player, was the first player I ever watched play around 04 05 as a kid (was born in 97) although i do disagree with Kobe being over LeBron I ain't mad if someone perfers Kobe he's a mf killer on the court period, it's also crazy that top 10 list have him 9th or 10th that's absurd, Kobe should never be lower than top 7. My Personal Top 5, Jordan, Kareem, Lebron, Magic, and Kobe.
I agree I love Kobe but Objectively I think lebron's body of work and resume is greater than Kobes (Doesn't take away from Kobe he's still top 5 top 10 easily) I think the problem people have with lebron is when people try to put him above jordan. (Imo Jordan is still the goat, and you shouldn't be in the debate until your career is done)
@@frandonfrank10 more rings, better scorer, better defender, won with less help, tougher, better ball handle, better shooter, better post player, better in the clutch, better finals record, and won titles during LeBron’s prime while they were in the league together. Easy argument. LeBron is a better rebounder cause of his size and position, and has more assists based on his usage rate and being surrounded by shooters.
@J23LA24 Lebron. has one last ring but has two more finals MVP S AND 3 MORE MVPS.LeBaron 27.2PPG KOBE BRYANT 25 PPG. ADVANCED LEBRON. Kobe Bryant heaven less help is also a lie, He had shaquille o'neal and phil jackson which is way more than lebron ever had. He's definitely not tougher than lebron cause. He missed more games due 2 Injury, so that is a lie. blah. Lebron is a far more versatile defender and can defend more positions. The only thing you've got right in this argument was Is kobe Was a better ball handle ,and a better post player that's it. You lost this argument badly
Dude was spittin facts... I was once a Kobe hater because of how he destroys oppositions which at that time I was cheering his opposing team 😂 but towards the end I realized the value of what he brought and man was I dead wrong... he was special. A true MJ heir apparent
@@DREAMERSPROo you also identify with those who believe it’s better to miss the playoffs or lose before you make the finals. Got it and you say Nick just says anything for views lol
This is PAINFUL! First of all I don't follow Nick Wright, but people listen, Shannon Sharpe never ever disrespected Kobe! Charles, why do you keep doing this crap! & AGAIN, IF LEBRON IS SO TERRIBLE & HE NOT WORTH A DAMN & YOU CONSTANTLY GET YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE UP! THEN WHY THE HELL YOU KEEP COVERING LEBRON?????? IF I WAS LEBRON I BE WORRIED, EITHER YOU'RE FAKING TO GET LIKES FROM LEBRON HATERS OR IT'S SOMETHING SERIOUSLY WRONG?! IT'S THE NBA DRAFT & WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEBRON! IT'S NOT JUST YOU, BUT DAMN IS IT THAT SERIOUS, SERIOUSLY!!! I KEEP COMMENTING BECAUSE I THINK YOUR SHOW CAN BE GREAT!!! I LOVE BRON, BUT I CAN'T TURN ON A TV, RADIO, PODCAST, ETC WITHOUT LEBRON! I'M TIRED OF HEARING BOUT HIS ASS! IF KOBE YOUR FAVORITE PLAYER, THEN WHY DO YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT HIM WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING HIM TO MJ & OR LEBRON? WHY CAN'T YOU DO SEGMENTS JUST BOUT KOBE! THAT MAN HAD AN ALL TIME GREAT TOP 3 CAREER, THERE'S PLENTY TO TALK ABOUT CONCERNING MR BRYANT! KOBE R.I.P MY BROTHER!!!
Most analytics nerds put Kobe down. That’s when he really started getting pushed out the GOAT debate because I definitely remember it being Kobe MJ debates in the 2000s and early 2010s now he’s not better than Tim Duncan tf 😂
Kobe is Underrated only by the media and fans that can’t think for themselves.
The real ones know his greatness.
Facts 💜💛
Well said!!
AAHHHHHH! 💯 🤝
Yup.
Exactly
Kobe was definitely one of a kind. I still can’t believe he is gone. Rest In Peace Kobe.
“One of a kind” All he did was copy MJ. Mamba Mentality? That’s just renaming MJ’s mentality.
@@shookfng facts!
The only player that truly is a One of a Kind is LeBron!! King James will never be replicated by anyone. I mean, He is the only player that’s 100% flawlessly undefeated in his NBA Career!! Nobody has And will ever do that! Not even MJ. Kobe? He ain’t even a top 100 NBA player. Literally The worst NBA Players in history can easily Replicate his game if they wanted to.
@@shookfng I absolutely disagree, like really? Human beings are not one dimensional. Obviously there are many aspects that define one person. Mentality is only one aspect. Honestly, I did not think that I had to explain that.
@@kevinliu2898 All I said. He copied MJ… I didn’t say anything about anyone being one dimensional.
It's so painfully obvious that LeBron has members of the media campaigning for him, it's sick, never seen this with any great, including Kobe, who has legit GOAT credentials. But the difference is that the Kobe's fan base has enough people who respect the past and rsspect winning that it was never like this.
So disrespectful. They’re brothers. You guys are delusional and make up narratives in your own heads grow up. Y’all are just as bad as every other Stan base lmao
Big facts bro💯
Lol no
well said
Couldn’t have said this shit better myself 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Kobe was the whole package. We just don’t see that everyday. Especially post-MJ. Man wasn’t afraid, fierce competitor, intelligent, poised, and very focused. Didn’t need or want to sway the media or those who didn’t like him lmao. I remember him saying he loved when away game-crowds would chant hateful shit to him. It was fuel. I truly miss his style of play and how close we came to 6 rings. I’ve always been a Lakers fan and he will always be the reason why 🤷🏽♂️
i'll never understand why lebron came to the lakers. i guess being in LA is a good business move, but in terms of his legacy, he will always and forever be in kobe's shadow, even if he got to 6 rings. as a lakers fan, i'd rather have lebron on my team than not, but he'll never get the same LA Love that kobe got.
@@ghostflame9211 He mainly went for his kids and for the buisness opportunities. He knows he'll never be revered in LA as Kobe.
@@xavicastorena4739 He got booed in Philly as well.
LeGoat James will only be The only player that definitively has the Whole Package. All MJ and Kobe could ever do was score Lose. They have 0 Impact on Winning. King James is the only player that’s Never lost a Single NBA Game in his 20 Year Career. Nobody’s ever replicating that Again. LeBron’s easily the GOAT!
only real competitors understand this and embrace it as a plus for them! the world full of soft people so everyone which is most people and they dont think like that! most people are weak minded and run from the grind
You're absolutely right. Kobe had to be removed so the false duel MJ-Lebron could take place. But tricks like this do not work in the long run. They can create media noise and fool around kids, but basketball fans who actually lived the Jordan and Kobe eras won't forget what they have seen. The whole operation will backlash.
So you think it's a conspiracy theory among the media and 90% of NBA fans to exclude Kobe in the GOAT debate? Please...
@@sprcrzy110 when did you do that survey?🤔
@@nygmatik2699 That's been my experience on social media and sports media. No one is telling fans on Twitter to exclude Kobe. They do it on their own volition because Kobe just isn't that guy.
I'm sure you believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny as well.
@sotiriosdrokalos Players who were truly dominant and changed the game were Russell, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem and Jordan. Neither LeBron or Kobe makes that list. Getting upset over talking heads who are nothing more than entertainment serves no purpose.
The thing that break me the most is hearing people say you only rank kobe so high because he died, when in reality he became underrated the second that happened.
A guy that was constantly in top 5 convo, now apparently outside the top 10.
Apparently, he’s not even a top 100 player. Every normal average human being can easily replicate Kobe’s Game if they wanted to. There’s literally nothing special about him.
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236such a low IQ comment
The part about him being a rapist don’t bother you?????!?!! WTF is wrong with you people.
@@rockyq2093 wtf is wrong with you being a clown and bringing stuff outside the court, you sound like a salty feminist, if we gonna play that game why the media don't disrespect lebron's legacy for cheating on his wife constantly and having to use peds to perfom on high level and have an advantage?, you people see what you want to only.
@@rockyq2093 Is that a Malika Andrews burner?
I miss Kobe. As time goes by, he remains my favorite player ever to watch.
Good to hear that. You must be the only person living on this planet that would heap that much Praise to Kobe. Let’s be real here. He’s not even a Top 100 NBA Player. The Worst NBA Players can easily be like Kobe, if not Better, if they wanted to.
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 Ummmm. What?
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 bro this is the ignorance that we gotta deal with 😂 WHAT??? 😭⚰️
You know who don’t miss him?? The woman he raped. WTF are you talking about?? How easy it is to forget the dirty shit he did.
@@rocketleaguehighlightsreel1236 LOL that's a bit much. Kobe is easily a top 10 player, and you can make an argument for being as high as 5. He's not the GOAT, top 2, or top 3 like his fanboys claim. There is ZERO objective argument for it.
So LeBron goes to LA and that’s when they really started diminishing Kobe’s legacy
by trying to brainwash average viewers and average basketball fans with silly statistics, but real basketball players and real basketball fans already know.
Me who has been rooting for the Lakers since the 80s when they had Magic and Kareem once LeBron joined the team I stopped rooting for them. Of course the "If you're blah blah blah then you're blah blah blah no a real Laker fan" reaction is typical LOL. Truth is there's some lines that cannot be crossed and LeBron is that cross, like seeing Halley's Comet once or twice in a lifetime without the guarantee it will be back. Not surprisingly I'm not the only one out here in LA that took that stance.
@@itshiho I’m not surprised. And your reasoning makes perfect sense. It’s a slap in the face to all laker greats to watch one man hijack everything they built and to add to that he has UNDER achieved as a laker. I’m surprised it’s not more laker faithfuls who are defending their legacy. Oh, and Jeannie Buss isn’t helping!
Exactly he need LA more than LA need him to try solidify his legacy just want to pass Kareem in lakers uniform it wouldn’t matter no where else
Kobe all day
The rest of this shit is garbage
The way they talk and act is like they played apart of his demise.....
F**k The media
F**k they script lebron
Is a good athlete
But Jordan Kareem Kobe Duncan
Lebron like 19 out of 20
Goofy as dude wasn't claiming goat when Bean Bryant
Was on deck ....lol
Not at the staple center
It's sad how the lil Buss Daughter drank the Clutch juice and now got the lakers looking like shit
And now it's all AD fault ....
Lebron ain't no different from the chick's Zion banging
They just wanna be saved
Wes...
@@itshihoi loved lakers too and when he gone i will love them again but yea he represents everything that is not the laker way!!He flops,makes excuses,load manages,fakes injuries, and didnt play defense for a couple years!!Alot more but yea wish he never came!!He got carried to west finals and they act like he did it lmao
Kobe was building his power and influence behind the scenes and growing his wealth when he passed away. By now some serious shit would have gone down within the organization and Kobe would either be running things or eventually ownership in the Lakers.
He also planned on returning for that 2020 bubble ring, and that's really one of the reasons why he isn't here nomore.
@@differentsame9402 Where'd you hear that one? I do actually remember in 2012-2013 season Jalen Rose would tell anyone that would listen to him that MJ was going to jump on Kobe's Lakers at age 50 if Kobe was about to get his 6th. I thought it was crazy because no way Kobe would go for that.
@@douglasmurphy3266If any of you really think that, we are lost as a species…
@@jaketwigg1065 The Kobe one seems far fetched, but Id rather talk about it than shut people down immediately. But Jalen Rose said exactly that in 2013 about MJ, into microphones and cameras.
@@differentsame9402 You said Kobe was coming back in 2020 to get his 6th ring. I didn't say anything about Lebron doing anything in 2013 or anytime. Kobe is my GOAT. Something got mixed up in the text.
Disrespecting the dead is wild bro smh I have no respect for Nick Wrong 🤔
Henry Abbott was one of the biggest culprits he wrote an article naming players saying they didn't want to play with Kobe and everyone of those players came out and said it was an absolute lie Abbott made it up
Ya, Truehoop used to be cool, but then Abbott started coming out with some weird ass takes that kinda were precursors to what we see today. He might've been one of the first to suggest that Lebron could have surpassed MJ already and this was like 2014. Then he suggested that pretty much everything should be a foul and that got him flames super hard, havent really heard from him since
What Nick is missing is that some things can only enhance your legacy and not hurt them. MJ is not playing so if he doesn't win as an owner it's not going to hurt his playing legacy especially playing in a small market but if he wins it will enhance it. Just like when Kobe won an Oscar, that enhanced his legacy but if he never won one it wouldn't hurt it or Magic Johnson becoming even more successful off the court enhanced his legacy but wouldn't hurt it if he didn't.
Nick Wright is represented by Clutch Sports…Doug Gottlieb exposed it
Kobe and MJ Never Won Anything as a basketball Player. So let’s just call it as it is. LeBron is easily the GOAT Because he is the only player in NBA History that’s 100% Undefeated in the NBA. Everybody wants to rave about Michael Jordan not losing 3 games in a row in a 8 year period. It’s quite literally the most Overrated feat of all time. Especially when you consider that LeBron’s never lost a Single game in his entire 20 year career.
exactly, what Kobe, MJ and other great ones did are set in stone and it could never be tarnished
Kobe is the only player with 30,000+ points and over 10x All NBA first team defense
Its 9 times, not 10.
@@oryan404correct, but it’s still tied for the most 1st team selections ever.
@@J23LA24u ever heard of a player named black Jesus aka he who walks on air aka the black cat aka air Jordan?he also has 30k+ and 9 1st team defense,a dpoy only player to win the dpoy and scoring title in the same season,rip Kobe
@@fitzroy6970 well, first, MJ is awesome and the GOAT, but no blasphemy, please.
There’s already enough praise.
Second, I was not responding to the original comment, but rather the second comment.
In fact, the record Kobe has is tied with MJ and Gary Payton.
Kobe all defense is overrated as hell lol
I've said this countless times. Once LeBron retires, all these media idiots will stab him in the back and dick ride some other popular dominant player in the NBA... Once that happens, people will start to appreciate TD and KB more.
💯
Nah they won't, they(the media) love LBJ they'll be gagging on his nuts forever
Kobe 8 or 24 never needed media members to hype him up. Kobe 8/24 came to play every day and showed everyone where he was headed, no matter what. His game did all his talking.
This is the most legit Kobe take I've heard in a long time 💯. The LeBron love was manufactured steadily since the first chip in Miami....and Kobe was still droppin 30 on em every Christmas Day💯🔥✊🏾
@@xavicastorena4739 the best player on the floor when(in his prime) he flamed out in Dallas? That was Dirk. Just one reference. And look up LeBron's quote about Kobe while LeBron was in his prime. Kobe is the best we have in this league... Because the numbers and consistency don't lie....Nick Wright does 😉
@@MasterKeyPapi*🎯💯🔥*
@@xavicastorena4739 Correct the same Dirk he had an historic run. The difference is Kobe already had 5 Rings 2 finals MVPs an MVP, was 34 years old and was considered the best player in the league the decade prior. There are levels💯
@@xavicastorena4739 Kobe got swept by Dirk the same year Dirk drug LeBron and won the title. I know you didn't start this conversation not knowing that lol. And yes Kobe was best 2 way player from 2002 to 2012. The 3peat was 2000 to 2002 and yeah Shaq was the most dominant but how you the best when you have to sit late in the fourth because you're a liability at the free throw line? Save the laughing emoji for a winning argument 😂. I did like the back and forth tho💯✊🏾
Not only Kobe but Kareem and Magic as well. They’ve even tried to act like accumulating stats means more than winning now.
LeBron has the most playoff wins NBA history. And nobody calls Bill Russell the GOAT
LeBron also has the most losses in playoff history, he's the only one to have been swept in 3 different decades and he has the most turnovers in NBA history. All these things are a consequence of the fact that he has played for 20 years. It's clear that he's not a winner - his loosing finals record, his chokejobs, his attempts to ringchase by constructing superteams and his pathetic performances with Team USA speak for themselves.
As for Russel, noone says he's the GOAT because he played with a stacked team in era the league consisted of 8-12 teams, free agency did not exist and he was only gifted defensively
@@sakdavid 4 rings says he's a winner.
@@xaviervega468how out of 10 finals appearances so that's what yall call greatness he lost more I'm I missing something
@@Artrail1000 4 rings is 4 rings. Every year you either win or lose, whether it's the Finals or in the rounds before then. Y'all act like losing before the Finals is somehow better.
I have been saying this for years. Thanks for doing this video because more people need to hear this and go do their research on what Shannon Sharpe and Nick Wright said about Kobe before 2011!
Same here. I've always asked the question of "When did LeBron pass Kobe?" Iooked everywhere and could never find a logical answer, especially when you place their accomplishments side by side. It was always strange when SAS at ESPN posted a schmoozing disclaimer for LeBron James on the screen every time they had to criticize LeBron James negatively. All o it was ramped up once Klutch Sports Agency was established. With all of the pro-LeBron propaganda spewed by Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe, it was screaming screamingly obvious they were bought! It was my issue with Klutch Sports' existence while LeBron James was still active. Just like Wright and Sharpe are bought, I believe when LeBron James recruits players to join Klutch, he gets paid. I wouldn't be surprised if it's buried in player contracts as a hidden fee. Like the ones hidden in the prices or airline, concert, and event tickets.
Kobe was a beast
Kobe was the same beast and a different animal
He was top 12 all timer
Also a r*pist
Kobe was truly different! Work ethic was unbelievable! Dangerous!
@@maverick33guy95 *top 3* I fixed it for you
Only Kobe fans really understood how great he was the media to this day still disrespect his name!!!
Fans, but also his peers
I have always asked myself that Kobe is my favorite player ever it always made me disgusted with the disrespect the MEDIA gave Kobe the only ones who know are the ones who watched and played against him look at the Legends like Tim Duncan KG AI Bosh when they went to the HOF the way they talked about Kobe R.I.P to my G.O.A.T 8♾️24 💜💛 Thank You for my Favorite Basketball moments
Disrespected where?
@@melvynsngltn27GO read a book.🙄
@@BeachgirlKarli speak for yourself
The West was an absolute monster when Kobe was playing. His championship run was truly magical. Possibly the best b2b champ ever.
@@xavicastorena4739 One thing I always laugh about is that Kobetards always call the 2012 Thunder "the baby Thunder" even though they spanked Kobe in 5 games. What were they when Kobe beat them in 2010?? The In Utero Thunder???
I'm sick of these Bronsexuals talking down on the Late Great Kobe Bryant
Bronsexuals!! Been saying that for a while! Let’s make that term go viral! Lol!
@@2009kdizzle LOL that term has BEEN used.
This is why LeFraud plays for the Lakers too try and replace Kobe’s legacy…
Factual fact
That and Hollywood. Space Jam 2 and BRON production and all the shit he’s doing instead of working on his mid-range, 3s and free throws.
@@J23LA24
You left out footwork, defense, getting to the rim without traveling or throwing an elbow…
@@thediseaseisthecure 😂💯
@@thediseaseisthecure A Kobetard is really talking about throwing elbows?? Kobe was infamous for that.
I respect your assessment of the Manba. Also he was an international sensation because he was multilingual and relatable to people around the world. I truly miss Kobe and watch his success outside of basketball.
Your are 1000% correct Charles. I really hate these clutch sports puppets
The same reason they hate lebron is the same reason they don’t rank Kobe high- social media narratives made by the media, not by the players
I said this was the agenda all along
1) The media was against Kobe since 2003 (Colorado)
2) The perception that he "ran off shaq"
3) Post 2003 Kobe was not "marketable" enter 2003 draft class (Lebron) the new "Face"
4) Kobe gets MVP snubbed several times
5) I am sure League told lebron to go to the Lakers - Kobe retires 2016 - enter the new "Face" of the lakers Lebron
6) Lebron passes kobe in points on 1-25-20 in kobes birthplace PHILADELPHIA
7) ONE DAY LATER 1-26-20 Kobe "dies" in. (which I do believe kobe faked his death) story for another day
8) And who wins the championship in 2020 ? THE LAKERS on Oct 11, 2020
9) Oct 11, 2020 why is that day important ???? = this was a holiday= FATHER DAUGHTER DAY (Kobe, Gigi)
Writing Kobe "out of the script" was the plan all along to boost Lebron in the public subconscious to compare him with Jordan
The NBA could not do that with Kobe (who played like Jordan) and won 5 championships "IN THE WAY"
"Which I do believe Kobe faked his own death" Yeah not taking this post seriously.
@@xaviervega468 maybe you are just ignorant about how "Hollywood" works -
HERE ARE THE IRREFUTABLE FACTS
1) Kobe Bryant "dies" at 41 years old
his final game of his career he dropped 60 points the rest of his team scored 41 points
2) Kobes final shot of his career he was being guarded by number 41
3) Kobe checked out of the game at 4.1 seconds left in the game
4) Kobes 81 point game was his 666th career reg season game - the rest of his team scored 41 points
5) Lebron passed kobe in points on 1-25-20 in PHILADELPHIA where kobe is from. kobe and his daughter "die" one day later ?
6) Lakers win the championship that same season on October 11th 2020 which was a holiday Called FATHER DAUGHTER DAY
You probably are blue pill and think all of this is just "coincidence" but I assure you I have more than 50 more examples regarding Kobe, Lebron, and yes even Jordan that I can use
Because The media is 100% right. MJ and Kobe was just Average, if not even Below average Basketball players that can Easily be replicated. LeGoat James is and will forever be the only Player that’s so flawlessly dominant, he’s never lost even a single NBA Game at any point in his 20 year career. Nobody’s ever gonna replicate that.
@@xaviervega468 a ignorant never take things seriously
just go seek help dude u lost
Im 1000% with you, the Kobe slander is ridiculous!! And the fact that he passed away and all people say “he’s only high in the list because he died”. He’s been a in the conversation for top 2, the media are the only people saying otherwise
he never been in that conversation
he never been in that conversation
Only Kobe fanboys ever had him top 2.
He was never looked at as top 2
Man Kobe had the whole city hurt when he passed I never seen LA like that but he hurt the world wit that, Long live the greatest 8/24
You are definitely keeping these topics alive and I appreciate you.
You remember this is when the Tim Duncan debates vs Kobe also started. If u rock with Tim then fine but for the ppl who have been having Jordan Kobe, and Kobe Bron debates idk how they suddenly act like Tim was ever in those conversations.
Preach
Kluth sports pays good $$ he lost to Duncan twice same as Curry they got push how “great” both of them were
There was the MJ spin shot that everyone said "Kobe" to whenever they tried it 😂 that was one of many huge influences Kobe had
Everyone said Kobe when they were shooting
@@asundelgun3487 Depends how old you are... I remember doing Dr J George Gervin Finger rolls, Then it was either Magic or Bird... Then It was Jordan, and then Kobe...
I also noticed that when Lebron was going to beat Kareems all time scoring record that all of a sudden Nick Wright started putting Kareem at number 2 after Lebron so it justifies Lebron at number 1 because he beat his all time record.
When guarded by LeBron
Kobe: 65 points on 50%FG
LeBron when guarded by Kobe
LeBron: 27 points on 38%FG
Kobe>
Now do record
@sosaraycharles358 team accomplishments matter or not because when we bring up rings bronsexuals say it's a team accomplishment. Man to mN 1 on 1. ME vs You kobe owned the queen
Preach it brother. The disprespect for my guy Kobe Bean Bryant was real. Anyone who watches and knows basketball knows greatness. I feel like they just be doing all of that for views
Every player that got love for Kobe need let it be known when they on TV that they ain’t tolerating no more disrespect towards Kobe. Ong! AI, KG n them OG’s legends been on it. ✊🏾
Please stop disrespecting a rapist. wTF????
Just in the NBA draft today, players named after Kobe and listed Kobe as their favorite player. It was crazy.
Cause if Kobe Bryant won all 7 NBA Finals the narrative about who would be The G.O.A.T would be completely different
True
Same thing for Tim Duncan. Sad they tear people down to try and build someone up.
@@titancheatFr. Had Tim went 6-0, he would be propelled in the goat discussion.
That's why I have MJ, Kareem, Kobe and Duncan ahead of LeBron
@@jeremyjames3633 lebron is not even in my top 5...
I 100% agree, people just keep on disrespecting KOBE.
Your analysis on Kobe was spot on. Truly a savant. Kobe definitely a top 3 man. I’m baffled by the constant disrespect. It truly never made sense to me.
Kobe was so damn good that when you shoot a fade you yelled “Kobe” lol
He was never top 3 stop it he’s barley top 10 💯
I think your on point with this take saying "Kobe was the guy they needed to move out of the Equation of the Goat Debate" but the problem is you can't sit up there and say a 3 peat and back to back without duo and significantly less talented team (in my opinion) doesn't factor in he was never better than LeBron and I don't know why or how this started I just know its blasphemy
Dude. You seemed a little mad😂😂 It's not that serious. All these lists, including yourself, are OPINIONS!! The same way you feel Kobe is at the top, someone else can find reasons for him to NOT be in that top 5 spot. It's all opinions & you seem a little upset that people don't feel the same way you feel. Like I said, it's not that serious. It's all opinions. Btw....every professional athlete gets booed. I seen Jordan get booed in Boston & I seen Kobe get booed in Denver. Kobe wasn't a popular player when he was playing. People didn't appreciate him until after he retired & that's the same thing that's going to happen to Lebron after he retires.
lechock didn't show up for kobe's passing shows lechock hated kobe and he was happy kobe was gone. who pays media and put 2 face to a friend. only lechock would do this bs.
Redeem team doc came out and no one in the media talked about it … cause of how it highlighted kobe and specifically made clear he was the game changer to bringing gold back … media didn’t say a thing . While the coaches , Lebron, wade , and so many other players in that documentary said he has that guy
Which is why this idea that Lebron is paying the media to bash Kobe's legacy is pants on head RETARDED. Lebron and DWade PRODUCED the Redeem Team documentary.
My guy this is one of the best Kobe videos you’ve dropped and I’ve been rocking with you for a minute. You word for word stated what I’ve been saying for years about this topic.
Lebron will never be better than Kobe or Jordan 💯
He’s better than both 😂 but hey it’s your opinion lol
He's not better than Jordan, but imo he is greater than Kobe (& I'm a huge Kobe fan. he's my favorite player) I think if you look at it objectively with non biased eyes lebron's resume is greater.
@TheJohnWick1 if you're going by resume then bill Russell is the best right
@usa5439 I thought it's was statistics, so Kareem was the goat not Jordan right?
@usa5439 come on now we are better than that. Use context, no disrespect to Bill he was great in his era but it was completely different back then. 2 playoffs series, Conference Finals & Finals, 8 teams, just a different time.
This guy just hates Lebron. He's a black Skip Bayless.
Man I genuinely miss Kobe a lot. He is the legend of the NBA. The golden child. A world wide icon. The legend of legends.
You know who don’t miss him?? The girls he raped. That’s who.,,,
CHARLES 😂🙌🏾 You on your stuff comrade !!! You even called out the fake condolence announcement Nick Wrong made when Kobe passed 🤣 this is why your that dude! Love it.
🤦♂️ Both Chris Paul and LeBron James look like clowns playing with the children of their peers. Chris Paul is desperate for just one championship and LeBron James is desperate for just one more championship to at least tie Magic Johnson and the late Kobe Bryant, because as is, if he retired right now, then he wouldn’t even be a close #2 to Michael Jordan. Six titles to four titles would put LeBron at a distant #2 to MJ, or maybe retiring with 4 rings would force LeBron out of the Number 2 spot.
No it would not.
@@frandonfrank10Yet you LeBron people would have a meltdown if he retired today. You all secretly don’t want him to retire right now because LeBron James is too far behind.
@@rollandcurtisoffExpoInThe30s If only you have dumb sounds trying to guess what I'm thinking because that has nothing to do with it. You obviously know nothing about basketball and speaks on your feelings you at least.
LeBron doesn’t have the number 2 spot.
The media keeps repeating that over and over until people have started believing it just cause they hear it so much.
This makes the most sense of why ppl are dissing Kobe.
Why does lebron deserve dosrespect though. Doesnt have to be your fav, but its always disrespect against mj or kobe, but never lebron? That man is human too
Lebron is disrespectful
After winning a title for Cleveland he did say that made him the greatest of all time. Never heard Jordan or Kobe say that ...public or rumor wise.
@757bigj how is he disrespectful
That's why Asians loved Kobe, In China, Vietnam, Philiipines... people only knew Kobe, not Lebron!
They hate Kobe for the same reason they hate Kareem it’s because they didn’t kiss asses. Notice how before Colorado the media loved a Kobe but after that they hated him same thing happened to Kareem when he came out as Muslim and both Kareem and Kobe noticed how the media switched up so they wouldn’t give interviews so they labeled them as luffs bad teammates.
LOL they hated Kareem because of his religion and because he spoke out on civil rights. They hated Kobe because he got caught cheating on his wife and caught rape charges. Not nearly the same thing.
@@xaviervega468 my point is the media love them before those things and afterwards they switched. A lot of nba players cheat it’s the fact Kobe “rapped” a white girl had she been black nobody would’ve cared. In a country where a white woman can call a police for a black man walking in park
@xaviervega468 They hated Kobe cause it was a YT woman that accused him of rape.
@@Beastmde_83 The woman had bruises on her neck, and Kobe admitted putting them there. That's hard to ignore.
Kobe was still having current nba players going to his academy guys like booker kawhi etc.. the level of respect for him was crazy he definitely surprised me too see how popular he was during the 08 Olympics I hated his ass honestly but respected him more when he won ring number 5 he shot terrible so he affected the game in other ways to win
M.j.and Kobe had that killer instinct on the court something lebron never had but when you tell these lebron fans that lebron never had that same killer instinct they will always try to find a way to talk bad about m.j and Kobe game.
Kobe said,"Me,Wilt,and Mike".I couldn't agree more.
Kobe way better than Lebron James
You’re awesome! Great job again! 👏😊
You said it. He has the best story in sports. The way he developed as a player and person. It was beautiful to see even post career.
Except for that rape thing in Colorado
@@lamarstapleton6222 He didn't rape the white girl 🙄 it was consensual sex. A cheating encounter. They tried to pull my boy Kobe down, but it didn't work.
I grew up in the Kobe era and memory of 90's MJ godlike status was still vivid at the time, so I used to take for granted that a player of era-transcending, epoch-defining excellence would always be around. I was not able to appreciate the mental fortitude, toughness and workethic behind the scenes that was ultimately responsible along with talent for the winning and the accumulation of championships. It was not until I saw the careers of LeBron, KD and Curry pan out that I began to appreciate the true all-time greats.
Awesome content and insight have a fantastic and blessed safe night my brother Kobe don’t like Lebron like that so their the hate from Nick and Shannon now Kobe can’t defend himself this is so disgusting and disrespectful by Nick and Shannon
Imma be honest I am lebron stan and this video got me rethinking somethings .....🙏🏾Rip Kobe
Organic love is real, manufactured love goes Away. So true Charles
Please. This vid was pure emotional dribble. Bordering on conspiracy theory.
@@xaviervega468 you watch it clown 🤡 🤣
That’s what’s up!
^__^
Much love from Chi-Town 😎😎🥰😎😎
I agree with you about Kobe especially when they dis him to elevate Lebron. Kobe GREAT two way player. Lebron not so great on D in my opinion.
Black mamba > Bron 24/7 365, it ain't even close. I get so pissed with these media clowns like Nick Wrong pushing the same bullcrap narrative.
Keep exposing them. Kob's the goat of this generation, period.
One more thing you Gotta stop bringing up old tweets from 10 years ago Obviously people’s opinion change when the guy they’re talking about proceeds to win a couple more championships and MVPs 🤡
That's fine if 1 active player is still building his legacy, but it doesn't make any sense at all to drop from 2, down to 9 when most of the players on that list haven't suited up to play since the early 2000s at the earliest 😂
@@ResidentNick Kobe was never #2. Only his fanboys ranked him that high. It was hardly a consensus.
So now Kobe was never BOOED?! You gon get emotional & just lie like it's okay?? 😂😂 he got booed in Philly (where he claims but not really from. Its actually the suburbs outside of Philly) & said his feelings where hurt. He played up there wit them soft white boys
Kobe was the 🐐 he was legit and robbed of possibly 2-3 mvps crazy man when u don’t kiss tail what happens 😅
Robbed when he didn't deserve them
@@melvynsngltn27 stop it. Stop it
@derrickjones2486 stop what telling the truth
@@melvynsngltn27 naw bro your a Kobe basher and laker hater talking about u been a fan for 32 yrs man stop that bull loli
The only MVP that might be a legit robbery is 2006. 2005 he missed the playoffs entirely.
Kobe introduced the word “physicality” to the nba. I remember when he used it, whoever was commentating asked the audience “is that a word”.
Because Shannon and Nick wright are obviously on lebron payroll this was set up by lebron it’s so obvious
12:49 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks Charles I needed that laugh!!!
Hey Charles, now that is great. One thing is wrong, it's just not some people, millions of people around the world know Kobe is way more better than Le fluffy and Kobe is also a top 3 NBA great of all time. You see, kobe even went to a place in South east Asia where the Basketball court is in a not so good community. Yet he went there to show no matter who he was that day, he didn't forget the places where he went when he was 19. He's that kind of person. Saw him lot of times in person, he even threw a basketball right beside me as a price to one of his events. Unfortunately I got 2 digi cams that's why I wasn't able to get the Basketball. But yep, just shout his name as loud as you can in a loud crowd and he would still try to find you. Shannon James and Nick rong can have their false narratives againts Kobe. But nope a True NBA legend Kobe will always be remembered and protected by the one's that he inspired. Just go back to the video of Nick rong againts Jim Jackson in 2018. Look at how a kobe discreditor againts a former NBA player who played 14 seasons clashed. Nick schooled by Jim, and Nick's last effort is explain how kob doesn't let some one off the hook if he let Lakeshow Lakers loss game 7 againts suns in 2006. If Jim, just said you got what you want right? You don't want Kobe to shoot that's the end result. 4 yrs later Kobe eliminated Steve Nash And The suns in their home floor and kobe went to win his 5th title in 7 finals apperances. In hia 14th season. Phoenix suns 0 titles till today. Easy!
Mentality is what makes a man a man. The ability to turn up and put more weight on your shoulders than any other man can do!
Tom Brady gets booed a lot
please dont compare Brady to Lebron. Have some shame
@@DREAMERSPRO I wasn't trying to lol I was just giving an example of a goat being booed.
As a big fan of Kobe and Lebron I hate these discussions. I'll say this Kobe was by far the most hated player until he won those last 2 rings. After he won those rings it's a lot of Kobe haters that had to shut up for a long time, then when Lebron began to get his rings it was a rush to move Kobe aside. Like those people started to creep back out tryna push his legacy aside but you can't do that when damn near every young star in the league is wearing his sneakers and will tell you they was heavy influenced by him.
no one ever thought Kobe was going to surpass MJ because Kobe’s first three titles were led by Shaq. MJ fans always knew MJ was far better because of his 6 finals MVPs.
True that was shaq's the offense ran through a prime shaq but he still did his thing during those championship years he did not carry kobe bryant at all I remember when shaq fouled out against the pacers and outplayed reggie miller so that tells me shaq was the man no doubt but in big games especially when was in foul trouble
he sealed the deal and then later on that decade proved shaq never carried him at all by winning his 4th championship and his first finals mvp
@@jimmycharlotin7050 He did not carry Kobe, but those were Shaq's teams. Kobe said as much himself, that's why his rings with Pau meant so much to him.
@xaviervega468 but you got to admit that 2000-01 playoff up until the nba finals against the sixers kobe was the best player in the playoffs I'm talking about back to back 40 point plus games and ten plus rebounds against the lakers biggest rivals the kings and spurs I don't if you watched those series but it did he was playing incredible basketball that 00-01 laker team get overlooked in history I got alot of respect for the 95-96 bulls and 2016-17 warriors but the 2000-01 lakers were great also
Bro whoever you talking about making videos about you. It’s kinda annoying: I watch every video you produce: I come here for your thoughts. Please don’t worry about them
I’m sorry but Kobe is not in the same stratosphere as MJ when it comes to his proficiency as a ball player. It tells me a lot if you assert that Kobe was even on the same level as Jordan as a shot creator. There’s a reason that jordan shot far more efficiently. Kobe fans go at Bron fans like they’re the delusional ones and I think Kobe fans are just as bad
I wouldn't say Kobe isn't in the same stratosphere as MJ because, ultimately, he's just a slightly lesser version of MJ.
@@ResidentNick No he's a much lesser version of jordan
@wangtang12 Nonsense. A pantheon great player like Kobe is miles closer to the GOAT(MJ) than to almost any player that's ever stepped on the hardwood. Use some logic here, buddy.
He has the same skill as Jordan, but he dosen't have Jordan's freakish athleticism. Whereas Lebron has Jordan's freakish athleticism, but not his skill.
@ResidentNick go study the history of the game and learn something then comeback and comment. Kobe is nowhere close to being on Jordan's level. He's not even top 5.
12:49 they boo'd his ass lmao😂😂bruhh i lost it that was too damn funny
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Kobe had a killer mentality in him
The biggest difference between MJ and Kobe was he was less efficient. Mike would take better shots with the ball.
Kobe was a highly competitive, high volume shooter. He was great but no where near MJ or Lebrons level. RIP
Leflop isn't in Jordan's league.
@@Tamburello_1994Lebron will eat Jordan alive. Little MJ won’t have nothing for Lebron if he was in todays game. MJ PLAYED bums. Lebron beat the best team ever assembled while MJ beat the SuperSonics lol
Nothing but facts 💯
Thank you for posting this!💯🐍🐐
Kobe at any time between 2001 to 2011> Lebron's whole career. He was that dude.
I like how you reference 01-11 when he started in 96 and retired in 2016. Good job.
This is so refreshing to hear Kobe talked about like this . Thank you 🙏🏾
Rip Kobe, he was my favorite player, was the first player I ever watched play around 04 05 as a kid (was born in 97) although i do disagree with Kobe being over LeBron I ain't mad if someone perfers Kobe he's a mf killer on the court period, it's also crazy that top 10 list have him 9th or 10th that's absurd, Kobe should never be lower than top 7.
My Personal Top 5, Jordan, Kareem, Lebron, Magic, and Kobe.
I have him 11-15
@@melvynsngltn27 🤡🤡
Thats exactly where i have kobe. Good list man
You are 1 trillion percent correct sir!!! 😁👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Just listening to this title, i could not stop 😂. Kobe is no threat to lebron and legacy what's so ever
I agree I love Kobe but Objectively I think lebron's body of work and resume is greater than Kobes (Doesn't take away from Kobe he's still top 5 top 10 easily) I think the problem people have with lebron is when people try to put him above jordan. (Imo Jordan is still the goat, and you shouldn't be in the debate until your career is done)
I agree with you. Kobe is above him, so he had nothing to do with how high or low LeBron is below him and MJ.
@@J23LA24 How the h*** is Kobe above him, please explain.
@@frandonfrank10 more rings, better scorer, better defender, won with less help, tougher, better ball handle, better shooter, better post player, better in the clutch, better finals record, and won titles during LeBron’s prime while they were in the league together. Easy argument.
LeBron is a better rebounder cause of his size and position, and has more assists based on his usage rate and being surrounded by shooters.
@J23LA24 Lebron. has one last ring but has two more finals MVP S AND 3 MORE MVPS.LeBaron 27.2PPG
KOBE BRYANT 25 PPG. ADVANCED LEBRON. Kobe Bryant heaven less help is also a lie, He had shaquille o'neal and phil jackson which is way more than lebron ever had. He's definitely not tougher than lebron cause. He missed more games due 2 Injury, so that is a lie. blah. Lebron is a far more versatile defender and can defend more positions. The only thing you've got right in this argument was Is kobe Was a better ball handle ,and a better post player that's it. You lost this argument badly
I LOVE THIS!!!! This dude reminds me of me! Lmaoooo!! Gotta love the Dreamerspro show! Keeps it real all day everyday!!
Kobe was overrated fanboy get over it
Dude was spittin facts... I was once a Kobe hater because of how he destroys oppositions which at that time I was cheering his opposing team 😂 but towards the end I realized the value of what he brought and man was I dead wrong... he was special. A true MJ heir apparent
Lebron is better than Kobe
More FMVPS
MVPS
PPG
RPG
APG
LEBRON IS 16-6 against Kobe
And average more than Kobe in Every Category
dont forget about those 100 playoff loses
Hahahaha.... Fool's!!!!
@@DREAMERSPRO Those 100 playoffs losses includes series he Won in 6 or 7 😂 your a hater dawg give it up
@@MeezyfBaby dont bring up the word "won" with dude, they dont go together. Son is 4-6, you cant be ahead of Kobe with a losing finals record
@@DREAMERSPROo you also identify with those who believe it’s better to miss the playoffs or lose before you make the finals. Got it and you say Nick just says anything for views lol
When you mention Susette, it feels like a WWE promo that R-Truth is cutting Ft Lil Jimmy LOL Hahahaha!
Kobe was booed around the league by fans after the rape allegation. Lol
This guy is clueless. 😂😂
This is PAINFUL! First of all I don't follow Nick Wright, but people listen, Shannon Sharpe never ever disrespected Kobe! Charles, why do you keep doing this crap! & AGAIN, IF LEBRON IS SO TERRIBLE & HE NOT WORTH A DAMN & YOU CONSTANTLY GET YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE UP! THEN WHY THE HELL YOU KEEP COVERING LEBRON?????? IF I WAS LEBRON I BE WORRIED, EITHER YOU'RE FAKING TO GET LIKES FROM LEBRON HATERS OR IT'S SOMETHING SERIOUSLY WRONG?! IT'S THE NBA DRAFT & WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEBRON! IT'S NOT JUST YOU, BUT DAMN IS IT THAT SERIOUS, SERIOUSLY!!! I KEEP COMMENTING BECAUSE I THINK YOUR SHOW CAN BE GREAT!!! I LOVE BRON, BUT I CAN'T TURN ON A TV, RADIO, PODCAST, ETC WITHOUT LEBRON! I'M TIRED OF HEARING BOUT HIS ASS! IF KOBE YOUR FAVORITE PLAYER, THEN WHY DO YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT HIM WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING HIM TO MJ & OR LEBRON? WHY CAN'T YOU DO SEGMENTS JUST BOUT KOBE! THAT MAN HAD AN ALL TIME GREAT TOP 3 CAREER, THERE'S PLENTY TO TALK ABOUT CONCERNING MR BRYANT! KOBE R.I.P MY BROTHER!!!
Most analytics nerds put Kobe down. That’s when he really started getting pushed out the GOAT debate because I definitely remember it being Kobe MJ debates in the 2000s and early 2010s now he’s not better than Tim Duncan tf 😂
We have to be the ones to make sure they don't diminish Kobe.
Thank you! Facts