I say aliens like Armodrillo is what you should be doing with strong aliens. Like yes he’s strong, but the way he uses that strength with his pistons for creative attacks. It’s not just punching the enemy really hard, it’s digging underground or causing a shockwave, or a charged up punch. I’d also argue swampfire kinda turned into a strength alien, a lot of physical combat in the first couple appearances in alien force. Same with Chromastone.
One thing no one seems to remember about Frankenstrike is that he is canonically smarter than Brainstorm! In fact, the writers have said he is smarter than the Omnitrix’s sample of the Naljian, making Frankenstrike second only to Grey Matter. While people are out there looking at him for his strength or electric power, his smarts will outclass you any day. Some strong guys you missed: Shocksquatch; Shockrock; Slapback.
Pretty sure nobody said they were smarter than the Naljian transformation. In fact, that would make them smarter than Grey Matter, because Naljians have knowledge transcending the 3rd dimension of space. Even the Omnitrix would be a child's toy for them. Don't just come up with stuff, mate.
@@anonimo.4134 no. The writers stated that Grey Matter is the smartest transformation in the omnitrix and that Frankentrike is the second smartest. I didn’t make this up. Now, yeah Naljian’s are incomprehensibly intelligent, but because Ben will always only be a fetus in their developmental cycle he will never have that intellect. Alternatively, intelligence in Ben 10 is measured by understanding of concepts, which could easily be something that Frankenstrike or Grey Matter surpass Naljians in.
@@SomeRandomKydd Pretty sure Frankenstrike's, and by extension the Transylian species' intelligence was from a Ken 10 pop-up. Which was contradicted on-screen in Omniverse, so, it's not really canon anymore.
@@SomeRandomKyddThat's not true. Old pop-up facts stated that Transylians were the 2nd smartest species, the 1st being the Galvans. Later, Derrick J. Wyatt (art director of Omniverse who sadly passed away) stated that Transylians aren't super smart, and that Viktor is just an exception.
One thing I don't think people realize is just how strong Wildmutt is. In Permanent Retirement, he tossed a fully-loaded dumpster through the air at a group of Limax. That might not sound impressive... until you realize that an empty dumpster of that size weighs nearly 2,000 lbs. Combining that strength with his super senses, speed, and agility, and it's honestly a shame Wildmutt got relegated to just being a vector for dog jokes later on in the franchise, because he could easily be considered one of the most effective fighters in the Omnitrix. 😔
Unironically Spider-moneky is in a similar boat, mainly for his scene where he bat's Ultimate Kevin with a lamp post like he's playing baseball. Overall huge acrobatics and flexibility along with an underlying unappreciated super strength 😔
@@moonflower595 For REAL though, even if Spidermonkey is basically just considered Ben 10's version of Spider-Man, you've gotta factor in that Spider-Man has immense physical strength. Spidermonkey never got enough love. :
@@Hi_Phantasy I find it funny how when Alien Force started I had to correct myself cause I always kept on tripping comparing Spider-moneky to Fourarm's because of the arms but then I'd say "he's good but nowhere near as strong" Then Ultimate Alien came around and I was like "Huh maybe little me had a point". 🤣
I loved the strong guys when I was a kid, they always had the best fights. There was nothing more exciting than seeing Four Arms go blow for blow with another strong guy
I feel like part of the appeal of strong but grounded aliens is that thier power is more hands on and impactful, they aren't shooting lazers or manipulating surfaces ,they just beat up their opponent 😂.
@@DrWardy four arms isn't stronger than base humungousaur and it wasn't dwayne who said it, it's derrick wyatt the art director and that was his own opinion at that time, while dwayne confirmed vaxasaurians can lift to'kustars unlike tetramands, as can also be seen from the scene of challenging to lift the sword in the stone, not to mention humungousaur isn't the only stronger alien than four arms, rath has overpowered and defeated looma much quicker than him, armodrillo defeated trombipular and aggregor used his strenght alone to beat two tetramands forms of ben, not to mention ult spidermonkey already beat him.. And the personal feelings aside this isn't downgrading him, otherwise would be downgrade for other aliens you put them behind of his shadow
Going off of just strength alone, I always think to that one time where Bloxx ripped apart a Dimension 12 robot by himself. Like Bloxx is nowhere near the strongest or durable alien in the omnitix but he definitely A solid glass cannon
I would consider Eatle to be a "strong guy" alien. His main power is eating stuff and shoot energy blasts but he is also very strong and tough. I just remember in his debut episode when he used his horn to ram vilgax through a building.
1st (The Topic): This vid was really really good, but you forgot Shocksquatch. I call those aliens, The Brawler aliens because Ben mainly want them to brawl/rumble. Kickin Hawk and Bullfrag are trash (By feats) and should never be put in the same league or category (Brawler aliens) as those aliens. 2nd (My Ranking For The Brawler Aliens): * Humungousaur (McDuffie is straight up wrong if you consider feats from the actual show) (Humungousaur scale above Bigchill, which Bigchill's frost breath overpowered Exo Skull's laser which his laser is stronger than his punches and rhino charge (Exo Skull beat Four Arm, bullied Rath in wrestling, fought Shocksquatch, and was equal in physical strength to Armordrill)) (Humungousaur also scales to Warlord VIlgax, which Warlord VIlgax one-shotted Ultimate Spidermonkey (Ultimate Spidermonkey beat Shocksquatch 2x and physically stronger than Four Arms)) (Implied 2nd to Waybig in strength) * Four Arms (Implied 2nd to Humungousaur and Implied 2x above Shocksquatch (Ult SM and Looma)) * Shocksquatch (Implied to be 2nd to Four Arms (Ult SM and Looma) and did better than Armordrill against Looma) * Armordrill (One-shotted Khyber, which Khyber fought near evenly with Rath and equal in physical strength to Exo Skull, which Exo-skull bullied Rath in wrestling) * Rath (Does better than Frankenstrike against the circus Trio) * Frankenstrike 3rd (Aliens You Mentioned Beginning Of Video): Why do you think Atomix and Clockwork are above Waybig and why do you think Feedback is top 5 strongest alien. He is trash (Compared to them and Humungousaur) without energy and he is trash (Compared to them and Humungousaur) with minimum energy. And why didn't you mention Eatle. 4th: Do you have a discord because I would love to chat with you about Ben 10 (Lore, Designs, Story, Characters, and Power Scaling)
thankyou so much ! i hadnt thought of shocksquatch when writing this video but im seeing a few people suggesting that transformation. I like the term brawler aliens. i do indeed have a discord ! discord.gg/rqcwhVrTj4
4:25 rath isn't the only transformation that alters his personality, there's also jury rigg and brainstorm (kinda) to name a few. Idk if you can count feedback because he does make it addictive to use because for Ben which alters his ego but his personality doesn't change too much apart from that.
I feel like Frakenstike suffers from being an electrical alien. Ben has a ton of electical aliens which makes Frakenstike seem irrelevant to use. Why use Frakenstike for power when you have Humongaur 4 arms and Rath while for electricity you can have Feedback, Buzzshock, and shocksquach. You can argue that Frakenstike is probably super intellegent but Greymatter, Brainstorm and Juryrigg exist. Its unfortunate that he's underuse because there are aliens that can fill the roles better. It's asham since I really like his design.
I’d say if anything that makes him a great all rounder. Super versatile. One of the strongest, smartest as well as being good in close up and long range fights
@DrWardy To be honest most of the intelligence comes from Dr. Victor but I'm assuming Frankenstrike is equally as capable as Dr. Victor and he's surprisingly powerful. Victor is shown inventing things and has good enough combat instincts to catch XLR8 and one shot Ultimate Big Chill with his electricity. The omnitrix always puts the species at it's best capabilities so Frankenstike should be as capable as Dr. Victor but I guess Ben neglected his alien's capabilities too much to make an impact. I do think Frakenstike is too underapreachated because he does have good potential but wasn't used at his best
Fun fact All of Ben's mid tier are above Planetary via Chain/Relative Scaling and they have MFTL+ reactions due to being comporable to 11 yr old feedback
Gravattack rarely uses physical strength, that's what separates him from these guys. He mostly relies on his gravity abilities and do so at a distance, we also see how he deals with physical strength aliens in close combat. Armodrillo when fighting Gravattack easily overpowered him and pinned Gravattack down.
I feel like Humungousaur even in base is stronger, Ben still chooses him over fourarms even when he doesn't use the growth ability along with the fact Humungousaur fights more stronger opponents. He fights a stronger Vilgax than the one in Classic, he fights Hybrid who are close in power to said Vilgax and he fights a stronger Malware. Also when trying to lift the sword out of the stone once Fourarms fails Ben goes to Humungousaur believing he's stronger. Ben actually should know who's stronger since he actually transforms into these aliens.
Thank you. Humungousaur (McDuffie is straight up wrong if you consider feats from the actual show) (Humungousaur scale above Bigchill, which Bigchill's frost breath overpowered Exo Skull's laser which his laser is stronger than his punches and rhino charge (Exo Skull beat Four Arm, bullied Rath in wrestling, fought Shocksquatch, and was equal in physical strength to Armordrill)) (Humungousaur also scales to Warlord VIlgax, which Warlord VIlgax one-shotted Ultimate Spidermonkey (Ultimate Spidermonkey beat Shocksquatch 2x and physically stronger than Four Arms)) (Implied 2nd to Waybig in strength)
swampfire is wildly powerful but i wouldnt say that strength is tied to his identity (no matter how insanely strong he is) as much as it is with these transformations.
I say aliens like Armodrillo is what you should be doing with strong aliens. Like yes he’s strong, but the way he uses that strength with his pistons for creative attacks. It’s not just punching the enemy really hard, it’s digging underground or causing a shockwave, or a charged up punch.
I’d also argue swampfire kinda turned into a strength alien, a lot of physical combat in the first couple appearances in alien force. Same with Chromastone.
creative outlets for strength are my favourite too. swampfire is wildly strong, he almost made it to the list.
One thing no one seems to remember about Frankenstrike is that he is canonically smarter than Brainstorm! In fact, the writers have said he is smarter than the Omnitrix’s sample of the Naljian, making Frankenstrike second only to Grey Matter. While people are out there looking at him for his strength or electric power, his smarts will outclass you any day.
Some strong guys you missed: Shocksquatch; Shockrock; Slapback.
thats a great point, i forgot to mention it.
Pretty sure nobody said they were smarter than the Naljian transformation. In fact, that would make them smarter than Grey Matter, because Naljians have knowledge transcending the 3rd dimension of space. Even the Omnitrix would be a child's toy for them.
Don't just come up with stuff, mate.
@@anonimo.4134 no. The writers stated that Grey Matter is the smartest transformation in the omnitrix and that Frankentrike is the second smartest. I didn’t make this up. Now, yeah Naljian’s are incomprehensibly intelligent, but because Ben will always only be a fetus in their developmental cycle he will never have that intellect. Alternatively, intelligence in Ben 10 is measured by understanding of concepts, which could easily be something that Frankenstrike or Grey Matter surpass Naljians in.
@@SomeRandomKydd Pretty sure Frankenstrike's, and by extension the Transylian species' intelligence was from a Ken 10 pop-up.
Which was contradicted on-screen in Omniverse, so, it's not really canon anymore.
@@SomeRandomKyddThat's not true. Old pop-up facts stated that Transylians were the 2nd smartest species, the 1st being the Galvans. Later, Derrick J. Wyatt (art director of Omniverse who sadly passed away) stated that Transylians aren't super smart, and that Viktor is just an exception.
One thing I don't think people realize is just how strong Wildmutt is. In Permanent Retirement, he tossed a fully-loaded dumpster through the air at a group of Limax. That might not sound impressive... until you realize that an empty dumpster of that size weighs nearly 2,000 lbs. Combining that strength with his super senses, speed, and agility, and it's honestly a shame Wildmutt got relegated to just being a vector for dog jokes later on in the franchise, because he could easily be considered one of the most effective fighters in the Omnitrix. 😔
Unironically Spider-moneky is in a similar boat, mainly for his scene where he bat's Ultimate Kevin with a lamp post like he's playing baseball. Overall huge acrobatics and flexibility along with an underlying unappreciated super strength 😔
@@moonflower595 For REAL though, even if Spidermonkey is basically just considered Ben 10's version of Spider-Man, you've gotta factor in that Spider-Man has immense physical strength. Spidermonkey never got enough love. :
@@Hi_Phantasy I find it funny how when Alien Force started I had to correct myself cause I always kept on tripping comparing Spider-moneky to Fourarm's because of the arms but then I'd say "he's good but nowhere near as strong"
Then Ultimate Alien came around and I was like "Huh maybe little me had a point". 🤣
I always wanted the writers to show us Ben aliens using their strength at maximum.
"Eating Baby's isn't cool"
-Rath
wise words
I loved the strong guys when I was a kid, they always had the best fights. There was nothing more exciting than seeing Four Arms go blow for blow with another strong guy
They got a lot of love. Especially in classic !
Humangosaur>Rath>4arms>armadrilo
I feel like part of the appeal of strong but grounded aliens is that thier power is more hands on and impactful, they aren't shooting lazers or manipulating surfaces ,they just beat up their opponent 😂.
for sure !
@@DrWardy wow ! I love your discussion videos dude ,keep up the great work🔥
@@DrWardy four arms isn't stronger than base humungousaur and it wasn't dwayne who said it, it's derrick wyatt the art director and that was his own opinion at that time, while dwayne confirmed vaxasaurians can lift to'kustars unlike tetramands, as can also be seen from the scene of challenging to lift the sword in the stone, not to mention humungousaur isn't the only stronger alien than four arms, rath has overpowered and defeated looma much quicker than him, armodrillo defeated trombipular and aggregor used his strenght alone to beat two tetramands forms of ben, not to mention ult spidermonkey already beat him..
And the personal feelings aside this isn't downgrading him, otherwise would be downgrade for other aliens you put them behind of his shadow
I’d like to add Spider-Monkey to the list too. Looks weaker but simeon showed us they can be quite strong
thats a great call. if i were to have an honourable mentions spidermonkey would be up there
Spidermonkey hit Ult Kevin with a light post and sent him flying too.
Going off of just strength alone, I always think to that one time where Bloxx ripped apart a Dimension 12 robot by himself. Like Bloxx is nowhere near the strongest or durable alien in the omnitix but he definitely
A solid glass cannon
That’s good point. I always forget how strong he is
I would consider Eatle to be a "strong guy" alien. His main power is eating stuff and shoot energy blasts but he is also very strong and tough. I just remember in his debut episode when he used his horn to ram vilgax through a building.
He is more powerful than I realised while working on this video. He may be appearing in an upcoming video
Let me tell you something, great 👍 work
;) thanks
@@DrWardy Your welcome
1st (The Topic): This vid was really really good, but you forgot Shocksquatch. I call those aliens, The Brawler aliens because Ben mainly want them to brawl/rumble. Kickin Hawk and Bullfrag are trash (By feats) and should never be put in the same league or category (Brawler aliens) as those aliens.
2nd (My Ranking For The Brawler Aliens):
* Humungousaur (McDuffie is straight up wrong if you consider feats from the actual show) (Humungousaur scale above Bigchill, which Bigchill's frost breath overpowered Exo Skull's laser which his laser is stronger than his punches and
rhino charge (Exo Skull beat Four Arm, bullied Rath in wrestling, fought Shocksquatch, and was equal in physical strength to Armordrill)) (Humungousaur also scales to Warlord VIlgax, which Warlord VIlgax one-shotted Ultimate Spidermonkey (Ultimate Spidermonkey beat Shocksquatch 2x and physically stronger than Four Arms)) (Implied 2nd to Waybig in strength)
* Four Arms (Implied 2nd to Humungousaur and Implied 2x above Shocksquatch (Ult SM and Looma))
* Shocksquatch (Implied to be 2nd to Four Arms (Ult SM and Looma) and did better than Armordrill against Looma)
* Armordrill (One-shotted Khyber, which Khyber fought near evenly with Rath and equal in physical strength to Exo Skull, which Exo-skull bullied Rath in wrestling)
* Rath (Does better than Frankenstrike against the circus Trio)
* Frankenstrike
3rd (Aliens You Mentioned Beginning Of Video): Why do you think Atomix and Clockwork are above Waybig and why do you think Feedback is top 5 strongest alien. He is trash (Compared to them and Humungousaur) without energy and he is trash (Compared to them and Humungousaur) with minimum energy. And why didn't you mention Eatle.
4th: Do you have a discord because I would love to chat with you about Ben 10 (Lore, Designs, Story, Characters, and Power Scaling)
thankyou so much ! i hadnt thought of shocksquatch when writing this video but im seeing a few people suggesting that transformation.
I like the term brawler aliens.
i do indeed have a discord !
discord.gg/rqcwhVrTj4
4:25 rath isn't the only transformation that alters his personality, there's also jury rigg and brainstorm (kinda) to name a few. Idk if you can count feedback because he does make it addictive to use because for Ben which alters his ego but his personality doesn't change too much apart from that.
youre absolutely right, id say rath alters it the most
I feel like Frakenstike suffers from being an electrical alien. Ben has a ton of electical aliens which makes Frakenstike seem irrelevant to use.
Why use Frakenstike for power when you have Humongaur 4 arms and Rath while for electricity you can have Feedback, Buzzshock, and shocksquach.
You can argue that Frakenstike is probably super intellegent but Greymatter, Brainstorm and Juryrigg exist.
Its unfortunate that he's underuse because there are aliens that can fill the roles better. It's asham since I really like his design.
I’d say if anything that makes him a great all rounder. Super versatile. One of the strongest, smartest as well as being good in close up and long range fights
@DrWardy To be honest most of the intelligence comes from Dr. Victor but I'm assuming Frankenstrike is equally as capable as Dr. Victor and he's surprisingly powerful. Victor is shown inventing things and has good enough combat instincts to catch XLR8 and one shot Ultimate Big Chill with his electricity. The omnitrix always puts the species at it's best capabilities so Frankenstike should be as capable as Dr. Victor but I guess Ben neglected his alien's capabilities too much to make an impact.
I do think Frakenstike is too underapreachated because he does have good potential but wasn't used at his best
Fun fact All of Ben's mid tier are above Planetary via Chain/Relative Scaling and they have MFTL+ reactions due to being comporable to 11 yr old feedback
Interesting ! I’ve never been much of a power scaler but that’s really cool to know
Rath would defeat everyone as long as they let him tell them something
Id put Gravattack too since he is one of his biggest aliens too. And also gravity punches.
Gravattack rarely uses physical strength, that's what separates him from these guys.
He mostly relies on his gravity abilities and do so at a distance, we also see how he deals with physical strength aliens in close combat.
Armodrillo when fighting Gravattack easily overpowered him and pinned Gravattack down.
Gravattack may be appearing in a follow up video.
You forgot shocksquatch, the other strong electric guy (I'd say he's just a little weaker than 4 arms)
thats so interesting. im finding a fair few people share this opinion, i never realised how strong he was
idk but i heard from somewhere saying the reason why ben always goes fourarms or humungosauour is becase he alwas wanted super strength
i wanna know where you heard that
Rath would jump down humungosaur's throat and knit his intestines into a sweater.
Nah bro Kickin' Hawk destroyed a building with a soccer ball. He's incredibly strong.
Shocksquatch should've been included.
im seeing thats the general consensus.
Although I massively prefer the classic design I love how much of an absolute tank frankenstrike (well actually Viktor) felt like in uaf
I love it too !
Make a video about bens electric aliens
Does wildmutt count I’d say he’s lil stronger than a bear tearing up cars and digging thru asphalt
i wouldnt describe it as super strength beyond the other aliens like stink fly and diamondhead.
Crash hopper no question
interesting, he can hit rather hard but is he physically strong?
Wheres my boy shocksquatch
i hadnt thought of shocksquatch in regards to his physical strength. interesting
Slapback, the more he duplicates the more heavier & stronger he gets
im unfamiliar with the reboot but great point
Burn the reboot to the ground
@@davidt00ns It's already over, move on lmao
@@gustavocards1552 no! I must erase it! Replace that series with the Chaquetrix and the Carnitrix!
@@davidt00ns Good luck with that lmfao!
Ghost freak while in space is godly strong
thats a great point, not as physically strong but very powerful
Didn't Ben as Humongosaur get his crap kicked in by Looma
Looma absolutely beat the crap out of Humongosaur, female Tetramands are typically stronger
lmao
I feel like Humungousaur even in base is stronger, Ben still chooses him over fourarms even when he doesn't use the growth ability along with the fact Humungousaur fights more stronger opponents.
He fights a stronger Vilgax than the one in Classic, he fights Hybrid who are close in power to said Vilgax and he fights a stronger Malware.
Also when trying to lift the sword out of the stone once Fourarms fails Ben goes to Humungousaur believing he's stronger. Ben actually should know who's stronger since he actually transforms into these aliens.
Thank you. Humungousaur (McDuffie is straight up wrong if you consider feats from the actual show) (Humungousaur scale above Bigchill, which Bigchill's frost breath overpowered Exo Skull's laser which his laser is stronger than his punches and
rhino charge (Exo Skull beat Four Arm, bullied Rath in wrestling, fought Shocksquatch, and was equal in physical strength to Armordrill)) (Humungousaur also scales to Warlord VIlgax, which Warlord VIlgax one-shotted Ultimate Spidermonkey (Ultimate Spidermonkey beat Shocksquatch 2x and physically stronger than Four Arms)) (Implied 2nd to Waybig in strength)
Where's Eatle?
could be appearing in a follow up video
kuro will tear you to shreds for not including swampfire who in base form just toppled the weathertower
swampfire is wildly powerful but i wouldnt say that strength is tied to his identity (no matter how insanely strong he is) as much as it is with these transformations.
Alien X will ofc be on Top
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