A couple of interesting observations. First, I am amazed that the Navy allows these guys to do the 4-ship takeoff with that kind of crosswind component. I know that the Air Force has all kinds of restrictions on the Thunderbirds that include issues such as crosswind, wet runway and even the proximity of the runway to the crowd. If any of those conditions are violated, they do a "Lightning Takeoff" instead, in which they take off individually at short intervals. Also, the smoke systems on these "Rhinos" seem to be even more finicky than they were on the legacy hornets. Not sure if the pumps are cavitating under G-loads or what is going on, but it is not uncommon for only one jet in the diamond to be smoking for brief periods. Also, a question for the Rhino experts.....is that gas I see venting from the tops of the vertical stabs during maneuvering? All of that aside, very impressive show. The Blues are a national treasure.
You asked about the fuel leak on one of the jets it correct. The Maintenance officer talked that that jet has that specific issue that they can’t figure out. And the smoke I believe is all pilot. I think it’s to show the ground safety team that they are out of position.
@@nickhubbard9150 Thanks! It looks as if the Rhino has fuel dumps up on the vertical stabs, so if something is leaking, it would make sense that it would come from there. With regard to smoke, that is interesting. The Blues have a lot of SOPs that the public doesn't generally know about. If the pilots are doing that to indicate when they are out of position, it certainly would make it stand out on the video they shoot for the debrief. I am just surprised they would do it during an actual public demo (seen this same phenomenon at a show), as it doesn't look right to the crowd. I know that both the AF and Navy place a lot of emphasis on the formations "looking right" from the crowd perspective, to the point of actually having the 4-jet deliberately flying out of position (cheating toward the right wing jet) during the Diamond 360/Pass-in-review, so the geometry looks right from the show line. It just seems strange that they would play with the smoke like that during a public demo, which is why I thought it was some sort of technical issue with the smoke system.
@@kevinmadore1794 the maneuver that you will see them cut smoke due to out of Position is the 5 plane line barest loop is the other end be that they use smoke as a reference
@@nickhubbard9150 Ah, OK. Then perhaps there is a technical issue with the smoke systems, because I see the smoke cutting off intermittently during a lot of maneuvers, including the Diamond 360, toward the beginning of your video. It used to happen on the C/D Hornets as well, but it seems to be more common on the Rhinos.
@@kevinmadore1794 I could very well be also some of the jets were the First ever built, they were test jets which means they never seen any combat so they were left out in storage hangers for years so that’s why they have some problems
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A couple of interesting observations. First, I am amazed that the Navy allows these guys to do the 4-ship takeoff with that kind of crosswind component. I know that the Air Force has all kinds of restrictions on the Thunderbirds that include issues such as crosswind, wet runway and even the proximity of the runway to the crowd. If any of those conditions are violated, they do a "Lightning Takeoff" instead, in which they take off individually at short intervals. Also, the smoke systems on these "Rhinos" seem to be even more finicky than they were on the legacy hornets. Not sure if the pumps are cavitating under G-loads or what is going on, but it is not uncommon for only one jet in the diamond to be smoking for brief periods. Also, a question for the Rhino experts.....is that gas I see venting from the tops of the vertical stabs during maneuvering? All of that aside, very impressive show. The Blues are a national treasure.
You asked about the fuel leak on one of the jets it correct. The Maintenance officer talked that that jet has that specific issue that they can’t figure out. And the smoke I believe is all pilot. I think it’s to show the ground safety team that they are out of position.
@@nickhubbard9150 Thanks! It looks as if the Rhino has fuel dumps up on the vertical stabs, so if something is leaking, it would make sense that it would come from there. With regard to smoke, that is interesting. The Blues have a lot of SOPs that the public doesn't generally know about. If the pilots are doing that to indicate when they are out of position, it certainly would make it stand out on the video they shoot for the debrief. I am just surprised they would do it during an actual public demo (seen this same phenomenon at a show), as it doesn't look right to the crowd. I know that both the AF and Navy place a lot of emphasis on the formations "looking right" from the crowd perspective, to the point of actually having the 4-jet deliberately flying out of position (cheating toward the right wing jet) during the Diamond 360/Pass-in-review, so the geometry looks right from the show line. It just seems strange that they would play with the smoke like that during a public demo, which is why I thought it was some sort of technical issue with the smoke system.
@@kevinmadore1794 the maneuver that you will see them cut smoke due to out of
Position is the 5 plane line barest loop is the other end be that they use smoke as a reference
@@nickhubbard9150 Ah, OK. Then perhaps there is a technical issue with the smoke systems, because I see the smoke cutting off intermittently during a lot of maneuvers, including the Diamond 360, toward the beginning of your video. It used to happen on the C/D Hornets as well, but it seems to be more common on the Rhinos.
@@kevinmadore1794 I could very well be also some of the jets were the First ever built, they were test jets which means they never seen any combat so they were left out in storage hangers for years so that’s why they have some problems
You’re excused at 1:09
Lol luckily wasn't me