"Find your grandparents or someone of age Pay some respects for the path that they paved To life, they were dedicated Now, that should be celebrated" This song it's just beautiful.
Growing up, Linkin Park was one of the first bands I became a fan of. There were even times when I would listen to nothing but LP. During the pandemic, I truly became a fan of Soundgarden as well, whose lead singer was the guy that Chester looked up to, Chris Cornell. And to think that almost 8 years after becoming a fan of Linkin Park, I’m here listening to twenty one pilots, who is pretty much the forefront of a newer generation of musicians who have the same messages that LP AND Soundgarden had. Sometimes, things come full circle, huh🥲 RIP Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell🙏🏼
He sounds PISSED in this, and I totally get it. He had a great chance to talk about this issue so directly, and he took it. I love that he cares enough to take the time and tell everyone that doing something so horrid and drastic of a decision is not the way out. This song doesn't feel like a song or rap. It feels like a speech or a discussion. It sounds like he sat down with a piece of paper and a pencil, wrote down every thought he was having on this issue, and spoke. It's so raw and almost vulnerable because it sounds like it was meant to be a poem rather than a song. It's almost as if he sat each of us down with him at a table and gave us a window to see into the truth.
This and friend please are so incredibly useful. Those who aren’t fans here listen to those songs and feel cared for. People who have never heard tøp before
The part where he says if he loses to himself😭😭 I was crying so hard but I didn’t want my roommate to hear so my throat is burning trying to stifle the pain
I think this is the rawest discussion of suicide I've ever seen. No prose, no pulled punches, nothing. Just speaking directly to the listener with a very, very sharp, concise message.
@@blurryfacetm3616 @Brayden Swope Eh i think this song sticks out a bit from their other songs. I think it'd be actually really silly to say that a lot of other twenty one pilots are as blunt as this song. I mean, the last two TOP albums are literally built around metaphors. Some of their songs that deal with suicide the most use extensive metaphors, like Trapdoor, Migraine, HLTY, etc. I'm not gonna act like this song doesn't beat around the bush at points or make use of figurative language, but this song is still extremely blunt compared to other TOP songs. And that's a good thing.
Em true!!!! he makes a lot of points in this song, one being that he could be tempted to commit suicide to get recognition ("i could go out with a bang, they will know my name") but at the same time complains about its over glorification and how life should be celebrated instead
The last verse is probably the most important; it is talking about how so many TOP fans glorify Josh and Tyler and not the lyrics/message: "maybe we swap out what it is that we hold so high" It is not about Tyler or Josh being gods of a culture, it's about living above the culture and bettering ourselves. The boys are just human like us; they never wanted to be worshiped and it's about time that we started taking their real message to heart... love yourself, not us.
I'm pretty sure that the last verse is about the people who say that tøp's music glorifies depression and makes kid's issues worse. He's saying that he wants a space for his own voice and his own beliefs.
It also finds a second meaning in that our culture glorifies young artists that die. IE, Mac Miller, xxtentacion, lil peep. The list goes on and on. So many of my friends love these guys just because they died. Don’t get me wrong there is a lot to love there, but Tyler is saying don’t love them simply because they died.
This is heavy. I had to take a break while listening to the album after this one. It’s such an important message and it’s delivered perfectly. It really makes you think.
As it's September 2020 as i'm writing this, It's currently National Suicide Prevention month, Not going to lie, It hits different. I've been so stressed lately Since school started, it's made me wanna give up. Twenty One Pilots as a whole made me feel safe, and proud. The cliche as a whole makes me happy. And Tyler, For giving This month a time to go back and honor this Month. Thank you, Tyler & Josh. And, thanks to whoever read this. Stay alive frens. I-/
The ending is so POWERFUL and I applaud Tyler for making this statement! The shows like 13 reasons why and other forms of “raising awareness for suicide” isn’t equating to prevention of it. It always paints this picture that the people around you didn’t try hard enough to save you so you should use suicide as a weapon against them. It’s toxic and it’s not helping in a society where we joke about wanting to die 24/7. Instead of glorifying death we need to put the focus back on how beautiful and worth it is to stay alive. |-/
You could interpretate the same message into "13 reasons why" though. Yes, it shows a person using suicide as a weapon but that person isnt the main character. The show mainly revolves around Clay dealing with the suicide->getting hit by that weapon.
This song hits me so hard. It really does explain how when someone commits suicide people glorify it, but when someone decides to continue living, nothing happens at all.
"Find your grandparents, or someone of age, pay them respects to the path that they paved, to *life* they were dedicated, now *that* should be celebrated." honestly one of my favorite quotes
Those of you worried about Tyler - I was too. But remember the lines: “neon gravestones try to call for my bones... *but they won’t get em.*” Tyler is strong. He will stay with us.
“Promise me this if I lose to myself you won’t mourn a day, and you’ll move on to someone else” dudeeee Edit: I’ve listened to this song over and over and this line hurts every time
I could give up Boost my reputation I could go out with a bang They would know my name They say "How could he go if he's got everything? I'll mourn for a kid but won't cry for a king." Promise me this: if I lose to myself, you won't mourn a day, and you'll move onto someone else
This song actually saved my life....... Remember suicide doesn't erase your pain it only passes it on As someone who struggles with depression and anxiety I would never want anybody to feel the way I do
Wish they'd play songs like this more on the radio, might actually help someone. I'll take Neon Gravestones over "Break up with your girlfriend, I'm bored" any day.
extra delux, 100% agree...the songs that now play on the radio rarely ever have a good meaning to them. All about partying and drugs. Hope they’ll play songs like this
@@wttdotcom8177 take your toxic self elsewhere. The clique is not supposed to be a negative space and I 100% appreciate what star said and will check out the band. Crawl back into your cave and come back when your attitude is fixed my dude.
@@Raccocooney Oof, not gonna happen my dude. Im not gonna "take my toxic self elsewhere" I enjoy Tøp and not all fucking clikkies want to be interupted with some promoting shit. Their reply had nothing to do with the comment, nothing.
Just report for advertising/spam and move on it's not that hard. I came here for replies that relate to the OP's comment not this. That being said, those lyrics hit hard.
This song opens up a new conversation about how important it is not to romanticise suicide/glorify it, and I feel like this was such a good way of getting this message across. The spoken word part at the ends hits so hard oml.
greenadrenaline6405 You could argue that 13rw discusses the idea of collective responsibility, but I feel like it almost sexualises suicide, and causes people to idealise something so tragic.
@@louisajones6105 It has glorified, idealized, romanticized, capitalized and institutionalized the act. Netflix got greedy with a second season when there was no reason for it other than to make money. It's despicable and don't even get me started on how they bastardized a great band like Lord Huron to make one of their most beautiful songs into a call to be sad and depressed together.
1:36 “I could give up and boost my reputation, I could go out with a bang and they would know my name.” He sounds like he’s about to cry there, it hurts me so much
''Find your grandparents or someone of age, Pay some respects for the path that they paved, To life they were dedicated. Now that should be celebrated.'' That gives me the chills.
'Find your grandparents or someone of age, Pay some respect to the path that they paved, To life they were dedicated Now that should be celebrated' Oh my God
That touched me in such a way. I have no grandparents left. My grandmother died this summer and she was such a good example of someone who thrived even in the hardest of times (she lived the spanish civil war as a kid on the loser band, the republicans... she cared for all her brothers and her parents when they were really old). She was such a strong and wise woman... She was there when I was depressed too, always motivating and caring for my well being.I really miss her. (Sorry for my english, guys!)
not really. Its Beethoven -moonlight sonata mixed in with tons of pop in it. The way the notes shift and hangs is rewashed pop done a mill times. The beethoven rip is fucking sad tho. I put 21-P on a high place in my music list and this is just a let down. ''Stressed out lyric : I wish I found some chords in an order that is new ~ '' So its a major let down.
I cannot express how much I appreciate this song and how TØP are using their influence to promote this. Suicide’s recent glorification (from recent suicides in the news and 13 Reasons Why) is so incredibly dangerous and evil and I love that TØP is speaking to us, the people who need to hear this, and loudly saying this is not okay. Suicide is a tragedy, not an escape. Suicide transfers pain to others. No matter how difficult what you’re going through is, the fact that you’re still alive right now shows that you CAN get through the pain. I swear it will end or you will be able to deal with it. Whether it’s internal or external, continue on. Be there for others and yourself.
Marie Top i completely agree. It breaks my heart when suicide is so romanticized and glorified; it makes people think that its a viable option when it’s ABSOLUTELY terrible. Twenty one pilots is so important; we need true artists like this to help cure our culture’s illness
I purely agree with the most of the things you are saying, but a person who tends to be suicidal, is thinking about what's feeling and how they cannot handle it anymore. It's selfish, but saying that it just transfers the pain it's the same. How do you expect for someone with that kind of thoughs to put somenone else's sorrow and pain above his own? It's somehow unffair
@@kyeo5925 I can see why you understand it that way, but I think you just didn't listen to the song enough. He does say 'neon gravestones try to call for my bones' (suicide is so glorified that it's tempting even for him to use it as a tool), but then later he says 'but they won't get them. No, they won't get them.' I believe 'them' refers to his bones - he's not going to let himself slip away like that. Also, the slight positive vibe at the end really makes me think that this song is, at the end, really hopeful.
This is my faveorite tøp song, not cause its "emo" or "edgey" but because it speaks truth and nothi g but. This system treats scuicide like its something to glorify, instead of trying to figure out how to stop it its almost a normal way of dying now. Thank you tyler joseph.
The song is not about the anger he feels for people who think suicide is a way out. It’s about the anger he feels towards people who “glorify” suicide rather than celebrate what’s still with us. Hence the last bit where he talks about finding your grandparents and paying “respects for the path that they made”. He feels people should praise the people who have stuck with us, rather than those who have lost the tragic battle against suicide.
This makes so much sense after that interview...the bishops have this religion vialism where they celebrate death...they want Tyler dead but Tyler is fighting them... the bishops religion represents Tyler's mental health and then there's jenna and josh trying to save him....and the blocks surrounding dema are graves
plus the fact Tyler and Josh risked their whole career for this song to exist. I don't know ... if I ever was on their position I don't think I could have shown this level of artistic integrity. I mean just imagine, what if this song was indeed misunderstood by the mass public? Keeping in mind the cancel culture that exists on the internet today , who knows what could have happened?
It’s not Tyler fighting it’s Clancy per the story line and it’s not Jenna and josh trying to save him it’s the banditos per story line. Just wanna clear things up :)
"Neon gravestones try to call for my bones." Tyler is describing the gravestone being covered in neon lights, fame, publicity, from the grave. Some people become more famous and are better remembered after they die, and people are almost always glorified after suicide. Tyler is saying not to let this be. Life should be more celebrated, glorified, and remembered. "I could give up," he could give up the fight. "and boost my reputation," think about how much publicity and fame it would bring. "I could go out with a bang, they would know my name" he would be remembered for a long time because of it. This song well puts a lot of what I think about. I'm not suicidal, but I've always thought it strange when people talk about it with glorification and talk about the person so highly while they never did while they were still alive. Let's celebrate life instead, speak of each other highly now, and realize we're flawed, but we can improve.
Rose GemHeart I’ve been having a hard time explaining the meaning to my friends(and why it’s like my favorite song in trench) and this is exactly what I was trying to describe. Thank you.
This song is so important and has to be heard by as many people as possible. For all the people who said that twenty one pilots glorify and romanticize suicide and mental illness. Tyler and Josh are one of the few genuine people in the music industry who didn't sell their values for fame and money. They believe in something bigger and they do everything to share it with us. I don't want any stupid hate going towards them anymore cause the only reason they're here is for us and for the lives they save every day. They truly deserve to be appreciated and this message deserves to be spread. Twenty one pilots doesn't glorify mental illnesses. Twenty one pilots is just two guys trying to save lost kids who are going through darkest times and find peace with their music. Please spread this song as much as you can!! I love you clique, stay alive |-/
This comment deserves more attention, because I feel so identified with the dark time thing Because I'm fighting depression, without a father (who dumped his family for a younger girl) and a mother that is very close-minded (I don't know if I said well the expression) And that is me. A guy who found months before some friends, and is trying to survive life
@@senorlechuga8832 aw I'm so sorry for all the bad things you're going through :( I'm sending you all the best wishes, I'm sure it'll get better, just hang on and remember to see good side in smallest things, gratitude is key to happiness
@@katodolidze1265 Thank you very much. Glad to see there is still goodness in humanity (it was goodness? I'm from Spain, sorry for my english) And, I don't know. Thank you. Also, I plan on doing things to make people happy when I'll get out of this. (Wanted to say it xP)
katusha x you are right for the most part, but there are a few tøp songs that don’t glorify suicide but still leave the listener feeling depressed because of the overall depressing tone. But for the most part, tøp is against suicide, and the lyrics for this song are good.
@@alexanderduran8982 well art is supposed to be emotional and make u feel things, it wouldn't be good without it. Although a song can't make someone depressed and if it does that just means that the person was already at bad mental state and needs help :/
"find your grandparents or someone of age, pay some respects for the path that they paved, to life they were dedicated, now that should be celebrated."
I love the part when he mentioned "Don’t get me wrong, the rise in awareness, Is beating a stigma that no longer scares us" As someone that has experienced in the mental health field I noticed that although is amazing to raise mental health awareness and lot of misconceptions come out from it. Lately I been seeing a lot people glorying some mental disorders and younger generations using suicide as a joke when it should not be and I think that's what Tyler says here we are not scare of the stigma of mental health anymore so maybe is has become easier to glorify certain mental illness.
"Promise me this, If I lose to myself, You won’t mourn a day, And you'll move onto someone else." damn crying "Find your grandparents or someone of age, Pay some respects for the path that they paved, To life they were dedicated. Now that should be celebrated." DAMN GREAT NOW I`M SOBBING!!!
I will never be able to get over how direct and upfront Tyler is. He doesn't care about the stigma around topics. He says what he's thinking and feeling and puts it into his music and it's amazing. I love it. It's helped me more times than I care to admit.
*”Promise me this, if I lose to myself you won’t mourn a day and you’ll move on to someone else.”* I talked with my friend about this specific line. At first we thought it was about Jenna, moving on if Tyler were to pass away. Then we said, what if he’s asking Josh to continue Twenty One Pilots? Then we thought... what if he’s asking *us*? That if Tyler were to die, he doesn’t want us to be depressed about it and hurt ourselves. He doesn’t want us to mourn him, he wants to be, in a sense, celebrated for the path he paved for us? Just food for thought :))
I think the first part is exactly right, but I would like to shed some light on the final lines. He says “find your grandparents or someone of age” then he says “to life they were dedicated, now that should be celebrated.” Tyler wants us to celebrate the elderly, and any other people that are still alive after struggling with depression. They dedicated themselves to life... they overcame their struggles and that should be celebrated.
I think it's more Tyler highlighting that if he was selfish enough to loose a battle to his own inner demons to not celebrate it. He's condemning suicide and saying we should support living long life, even when there is sometimes pain or struggle
slaydynbrooke nope. He doesn't want people to celebrate or mourn him because he gave up, your assumption makes sense, just not in the context of this song. He believes that if he gives up or "loses to himself" he shouldn't be mourned.
I was binge-listening to this album, but like after this song, I had to take a break. This song is so heavy. What a great message, but like this isn’t something that can just be listened to casually. This one hit hard my bois
Declan McGhee that’s literally where I’m at rn I spend the last 30 minutes after this specific song was released crying in a corner. (I’m not exaggerating)
For everyone who thinks that TOP glorifies suicide or in anyway supports it, just read the lyrics. Tyler literally tells us that if he does it, that we shouldn't even mourn or celebrate him. Only to celebrate those who lived their lives to the fullest. God, I love this band!
"They say "How could he go if he's got everything?" I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king." ..."Find your grandparents or someone of age, Pay some respects for the path that they paved, To life they were dedicated. Now that should be celebrated." ...such powerful writing, not to mention wicked sound. I love their use of piano, TOP band, YES!!
Its kinda weird that of all the song of the albums, this is the one that is on trending. I hope musical.ly kids dont find it but people who trully need it
Musically kids need it too. Didn't u ever sing in the mirror as a kid? That's all their doing. But they can share it. Doesn't make it less meaningful and beautiful to them. My mom went all in on my Daughter and Musically until I reminded her that her and her father lip synced and sung in the mirror (I don't think together. I think she got caught doing it. Was embarrassed and Grandpa said "I used to sing in the mirror too" to make her feel better) needless to say, once looked at like that mom stopped being a jurk. It's the same expression and emotion involved in the music, along with narcissism, (lol) it's just expressed on a slightly different platform. If we didn't have mirrors or Camera phones kids would sing along to music while looking in puddles or lakes.
@@Sheepbaj I so don't believe u. Lol. If you ever did any kind of dance you watched ur movement in mirror. So many things require a mirror to coordinate. Ever done a exercise class? So maybe u didn't ACTUALLY lip sync In the mirror, but u have done other like things.
"To life they were dedicated. Now that should be celebrated." I'm just in awe, I'm shaking. Fuck i might even cry haha, idk but i feel like i need to thank him. Well, I can't, but i needed to hear this. So thank you, yeah, I want to live.
it's been 2 years, and this still hits hard. what really got me was the "they say "how could he go if he's got everything?"" don't ignore the signs, and don't invalidate the feelings because of material reasons.
I just wanted to point out that the two words ‘suicide’ and ‘death’ aren’t used in this song nor in (nearly) any other song of ‘Trench’. While they were used kind of frequently before: ‘fear might be the death of me’ ‘they tried the suicidal session’ ‘Sundays are my suicide days’ ‘They are killing themselves’ ‘Everything I’ve ever made is dead now inside a grave’ ... So now I wonder whether that’s because he’s trying to make the point that exposing people to these topics involves a risk of either wrong presentation (eg 13 reasons why) or wrong interpretation (glorification). But the whole album doesn’t use direct expression like prior ones. And Tyler sings about what’s on his mind, so maybe death doesn’t feel as threatening to him anymore? That would also explain why he sounds so choked up (‘when they...’) instead of saying it point-blank. The point I’m trying to make is: I think he’s talking about mental health from an outsider’s point of view, not from one who’s currently going through it. Not anymore |-/
we sing to the sky also self harm. “They glorify them even more when they...” I think that blank is cutting. Also “it” in this song represents suicide and death, pretty sure that’s an obvious one
mackvnzie I first thought that the blank meant ‘when they are dead/gone’ but ‘when they cut’ fits as well. And yes, that’s what I was trying to say: that the lyrics are about suicide, death and self-harm but those words aren’t used explicitly and so the lyrics differ from older ones.
FlyingDeers that’s right, thank you for pointing it out! I forgot about Morph, my mistake 🙈 Event though you could argue that Morph is talking about suicide but steers clear of that word. But why avoid that word now when he literally yells it in earlier songs? I guess something changed between recording Blurryface and Trench. I might be interpreting way too much into it, but just wanted to share my thoughts |-/
LYRICS: What's my problem? Well, I want you to follow me down to the bottom, Underneath the insane asylum, Keep your wits about you while you got ‘em, ‘Cause your wits are first to go while you're problem-solving. And my problem? We glorify those even more when they.. My opinion, our culture can treat a loss, Like it’s a win and right before we turn on them, We give them the highest of praise, And hang their banner from a ceiling, Communicating, further engraving, An earlier grave is an optional way. No. Neon gravestones try to call for my bones. What's my problem? Don't get it twisted. It's with the people we praise who may have assisted, I could use the streams and extra conversations, I could give up, and boost up my reputation, I could go out with a bang, they would know my name, They would host and post a celebration. My opinion will not be lenient, My opinion, it's real convenient, Our words are loud, but now I'm talking action, We don't get enough love? Well, they get a fraction. They say "How could he go if he's got everything?" I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king. Promise me this, If I lose to myself, You won’t mourn a day, And you'll move onto someone else. But they won’t get them. No they won’t get them. Don’t get me wrong, the rise in awareness, Is beating a stigma that no longer scares us, But for sake of discussion, in spirit of fairness, Could we give this some room for a new point of view? And could it be true that some could be tempted, To use this mistake as a form of aggression, A form of succession, a form of a weapon, Thinking “I’ll teach them,” well, I’m refusing the lesson, It won’t resonate in our minds. I’m not disrespecting what was left behind, Just pleading that it does not get glorified, Maybe we swap out what it is that we hold so high. Find your grandparents or someone of age, Pay some respects for the path that they paved, To life they were dedicated. Now that should be celebrated.
@@carpenoctem796 sorry im so late oof but I believe Tyler is saying that people ignore depression and other mental health issues when they see famous or well off people commiting suicide because they think these well off people _should_ be happy. So they see it as an extreme measure for attention. An example of this thinking would be a person saying, "Why would a king commit suicide, he has power, money, and fame. He just got attention hungry there's no way he could be depressed, but I understand why this young boy would commit, he has stress from school and maybe trouble making friends, he has a reason to be truly depressed."
I liked what he had said before... let's glorify getting old instead. This song IS a conversation starter. Its true that in the desperate endeavor to raise awareness for things like mental disorders, they have become a key point that can bring fame to many. It has thus been normalized even though this is not something that should be normal (health wise). I mean you hear of a celeb suicide and the simple act of saying things such as "they're free" does actually glorify suicide because of what it implies. It takes away from the gravity of the situation. I can't remember but I heard a podcast that actually said celeb suicides DO raise suicide rates. To a minor extent I also hear so many of my classmates saying things like "I want to die" jokingly and obviously they don't do it with negative intents however someone who personally deals with some pretty severe thoughts won't be taken as seriously when they do try to speak out. Conversations are important but being logical and not glorifying is key. Let's begin to glorify living.
This _hurts_ too much. My grandmother survived the Holocaust and my grandfather fought in the Korean War. Tyler and Josh are so inspiring. We shouldn't glorify depression, self harm, anxiety, suicide. A lot of people brand them as promoting suicide and depression but they are trying to stop it. People say that we're all just cutter teens, but it's more. We are more than our labels. We are more than they see. Stay strong, stay alive. ||-// I love you, skeleton clique.
I agree. This world has turned mental health disorders into something that is okay and sometimes people will betray them as cool. They have turned serious problems into something that they are most definitely not.
I lost someone today: Mino. He was 98 years old and I met him one year ago because my mom was his caregiver. Since the first time I met him, I felt my grandpa sent me Mino to help me cope with his loss happened one year before. So Mino for me was another grandpa. He was so kind and humble. He was telling me the best stories about the sacrifices he had to go through when he was young and how children use to work and study at the same time to help their families, reaching his school walking miles away from home and same to go back home after school. There were no cars, only donkeys or your feet to use. After school, one back home, he had to help the parents with grazing animals and all the hard work there was behind farming. Everyday he was telling me about his lovely wife who padded away last September and for me was difficult to see his tears and couldn’t bring back to him. He shared with me the biggest love of his life and the hardest time he had growing up. Today the earth has lost a special human being. I will miss you Mino and I want to dedicate this song to you, especially the last part. Thanks for this year of pure love, you will be missed, Shana ❤
My favorite song, not just from the album, but from them ever. This is a hard subject but they always hit it perfectly. Because it is spoken from the heart and head. Stay alive friends.
Find your grandparents or someone of age. And pay your respects for the path that they paved, For life they were dedicated, That should be celebrated. I’m so happy that they are leaving this message. I love twenty one pilots and I will forever.
This song is a beautiful blessing masterpiece It’s like you can hear his anger, but not like he’s yelling not that type of anger the type when he’s really trying to tell you something, just listen to him.
Its like a desperate urgency. I cant help but picture him on his knees with his hands out, almost crying but still trying to be strong as he says these things, begging us to not go there
There's 2 types of anger, dry and wet. Dry anger is a parent/teacher/etc yelling stereotypically. Wet anger is what you described, the need for someone to understand
I had a fellow classmate that committed suicide today. I barely knew him but I had tiny conversations with him every once in a while. It's hard for me to process what's happening and all I can do is sit and do nothing about it. If you need help, then get help. Please. Rest in peace, my lost friend.
I Really Like That, Living In Seattle, Father of 2 & 1 Is Still Living The Other Is Gone. So Many "Musician?" Suicides Here & My Son In The Mix--I Couldn't Have Said It Better.
I Did However Take my son's Best Friend Growing Up To The Show at the Tacoma Dome 11/16/2018, He Liked The Show And Christopher would have too. I Took He & His Sister to over 60 concerts.......
This is BRILLIANT and BEAUTIFUL. Our society glorify the dead artists after they commit suicide, but don’t give a damn during their depression and calls for help
Mac Miller is a prime example no he didn’t commit suicide but he was obviously dealing with mental issues but no one gave a shit. He had a toxic attitude because of the drugs and his mental health. No one cared. I knew it he had problems but not drug problems. Such a shame. R.i.p.
It's sad that, out of the whole manifest against glorification of suicide and, by extension, depression that this song represents, people are focused on the "promise me this..." bridge, that is the only part vaguely sad/emo/suicidal. Yeah I know it's strong and deep, but in a song about not romantizing mental illnesses there's a lot of better lines to pick than the single part that kinda indulges it. For example, the final poetry/spoken word verse, that's actually powerful, gives us a lesson and has those optimistic final lines that are simply beautiful.
I think those lines perfectly fit the theme of the song. Maybe he's just saying that if I give up I don't deserve your mourning so don't do that. That sounds cruel but he tries to make people stay alive. I'm not saying that people who just pick those lines understand this.
@@alzbetaborkova1311 well, I somewhat agree with your interpretation, but I'm afraid about people misunderstanding or decontextualizing them, and they becoming a common emo/depressing instagram caption or tweet. Which imo would be the exact opposite of what Tyler wants with this song.
"Some could be tempted to use this mistake as a form of agression" That hit me differently, that line stood out because i know its true, i know that people would do it to tell people how much pain they caused them mentally and physically. This band helps me and it annoys me if anyone says their bad because their music was the onlything that understood me. Thanks TØP
I can't stop crying."Promise me this/If I lose to myself/You won't mourn a day" are similar words that are written in my goodbye letter.I never thought to make it after July this year....
On the other unpopular things to talk about are the unhealthy and bad uses of suicide. Well, the common instances are escape from pain but most of us seem to ignore that some use it to gain attention, or to threaten, or to gain something - which causes manipulation upon other people. And thats what Tyler warns other people not to use suicide for people to glorify and to romanticize.. it is never right. Rather, Tyler tells us, instead, to celebrate life as it happens and the way the elders paved the way for us and gave us lessons from their experiences. However, we often neglect our elderly and leave them alone in homes of the aged which deprives them of love and care... and that us what is also missing from us. Rather than giving love to those are still alive, we give them to those who are already lost.
John Appleseed are u dumb? do u realize the message about suicide behind this ? this and many of their songs speak abt not glorifying suicide . tired of ppl speaking abt fake depression take your nap cry and go
yall settle down. This song means something and should be talked about for what he is saying. unfortunately that is the problem with our culture, no one talks about these problems and that's exactly why he wrote this song. They don't talk about suicide ("it") or how people struggle with mental illnesses so those struggling feel alone or like they shouldn't find help which isn't the case. So i do think this song should be spread. So people can learn they're not alone.
@@JohnDoe-ov7jo you know I thought I could go the day without facepalming at something dumb.... You broke it. Lemme share my opinion. I entirely disagree with what you commented. It is not unhealthy to spread music about suicide. Look at a song that got really popular recently like Logic - 1-800-273-8255, now that song talked about suicide and spread a beautiful message. The title of the song is literally a suicide hotline so that people that were feeling like giving up could call it and get help. What kind of sick person thinks that's bad? Here, and with his other music Tyler shares what he thinks, how certain things bother him and how he feels, by doing that he gives a community. An entire place to feel not alone. Do you realize that the message he sings of is hope (ESPECIALLY WITH THE ALBUM THIS SONG BELONGS TO), a hope of getting better? The entire community created by Twenty One Pilots focuses on supporting each other. Whenever I see someone feeling down in the comment section (especially of something TOP related) I see a plethora of replies that simply say "Stay Alive friend I-/". That's because we have a place where we know others may be feeling what we are and that there's someone there to hear us and not disregard us because they may know what its like feeling like absolute shit and wouldn't wish that on anyone. That's what I get when I listen to their music. That someone is there for me... Not only Tyler and Josh. ADDITIONALLY, I find it rude that you assume the state of someones depression. Sure, as a teenager things that adults may see as minuscule depress us, because at that stage those things are the most we know, the most important things. Think about when you were a child, I remember being like 4 years old and feeling like I was the shit because I could count to 100 and spell 'community'. Because at that stage it was important. So don't discredit someone's feelings. You can never know what they've been through. AND PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS GLORIFIES DEPRESSION.
I honestly think tøp is one of the deepest bands ever.Heroes r not remembered because of compensation ,but because of what they did. “I’ll mourn for a kid, but won’t cry for a king
PLAISERG Steve bobby “but compensation feels a lot like rising up to dominate by track two at least they all know all they hear comes from a place” I’m sorry that just came to my head when you said compensate
I’m here after listening the discord interview. Now I can hear and understand this song from a totally new perspective. Tyler is a genius and I’m happy for him to take the risk and put this song on the album.
You know I’ve always thought Tyler was just preaching his past thoughts on depression and that he’s okay now. But going through such a thing and listening to all the lyrics they’ve wrote.. the sad truth is it never truly goes away. Instead you learn to live with it. And we are witnesses to their choice of living in their songs. And as they sing, countless lives are being saved. I’m so blessed to be listening to their story.
hi.. everyone out there, i'm sorry to disturb you but please replay NEON GRAVESTONES and Morph because they really deserve it.. these are songs that can save lives!! *spread the message if you can*
The Bandito concert was my first ever TØP concert I went with my big sister And during this she stated crying I’m pretty sure a lot of other people did This song is sad and touching
That_Happy_Child I know I will and maybe her too, I myself am on the same boat as im going to my first ever TØP concert in June, the Bandito Tour. I am also going with my older sister (as a very late birthday present lol) and I cry listening to this song just like this. I’m going to cry even more when I see it live
My first top concert was in 2013 during the Vessel era, I remember me and my gf balling our eyes out, same thing happend when we also saw them in 2017, now we’re waiting for top to come to vegas again and I’ll probably cry again haha
I never thought I'd live to my current age of 17. My current goal is to make it to 25. The last couple of lines made me think I might just have to push it a few more decades.
You can do it, it's absolutely worth it and rewarding. I'm so proud of you for making it this far, and i'm sure you can go on for a lot more🖤 stay alive.
I never thought I would see 18 and yet here I am. I'm so glad I kept holding on because this year has been the best one of my life. Please hold on because you literally do not know what could happen in a year.
Katie I’d gladly invite you to Eastern Europe, to Moldova or Romania. This trip might help you to rediscover the beauty of the world and of the nature. There are infinite reasons to be alive. Keep your head above the water. Warmest Greetings!
you, you are going to make it. i so freaking believe that you will. I'm almost 24 now and never EVER thought i'd make it past 17. i'm glad i stayed at least this long. i plan to stay much longer. i hope that you decide to, too. please.
When I was around your age, I never thought I could make it to 23. I was convinced I'd end my life by then because I was so miserable and in so much pain, the thought of living much longer with it seemed exhausting and impossible. I'm 32 now. I have two kids who are my everything. I have a husband who is also my best friend. I thank God every single day that I didn't give into that fear. I won't lie and say my life is completely better; I still have plenty of pain. But I now see the other side of it, I've gained perspective, and have reasons to be grateful to be alive. Life is a series of ups and downs. The ups make me so glad to be here still, and during the downs, hold on to those ups until the next one comes. I promise you; it will come.
I wanted to visit this song again to relive some memories I’ve been repressing. I remember listening to this song before my Suicide attempt back in October. I had been put on medication in august. The year before was the worst year of my life and I was still recovering. I just couldn’t do it anymore. That’s what I remember thinking. I wasn’t exactly stable on medication yet and I think that’s what made me go haywire. I took a handful of melatonin and wrote a Suicide note. I luckily survived, but I know some may not have been so lucky. This experience has put Suicide in a new light for me. I no longer see it as a solution, rather something that should never be considered. I never want anyone to make my same mistake. Remember to stay alive. ||-//
“i’ll mourn for a kid, but won’t cry for a king” oh.... my god
tyler i love you
I knowwwwwwwwwwwwww.... that part got me too!
OdeToTrash heavy love it
That part hit me too
"Find your grandparents or someone of age
Pay some respects for the path that they paved
To life, they were dedicated
Now, that should be celebrated"
This song it's just beautiful.
wassup ode
This is one of the greatest songs they've ever created.
That carries a lot of weight.
It's not better than sweet child o mine is it?
@Shaun surname You know you like Stressed Out.
Stressed out is not that original
Shaun surname Why can’t u express ur opinion where people want it I used to be like u you look like a idiot
@@shaunsurname8275 It's way better than sweet child of mine
Please stay with us. You are not alone
Depression Talks With Immanuel ❤️❤️
I saw you in a reaction video one time. Hi.
💛💛
You dont need to run
Chester was such a huge twenty one pilots fan, and it breaks my heart to think that he was probably a form of inspiration for this song.
Growing up, Linkin Park was one of the first bands I became a fan of. There were even times when I would listen to nothing but LP. During the pandemic, I truly became a fan of Soundgarden as well, whose lead singer was the guy that Chester looked up to, Chris Cornell. And to think that almost 8 years after becoming a fan of Linkin Park, I’m here listening to twenty one pilots, who is pretty much the forefront of a newer generation of musicians who have the same messages that LP AND Soundgarden had. Sometimes, things come full circle, huh🥲 RIP Chester Bennington and Chris Cornell🙏🏼
Finally someone mentioned this.. RIP Chester sir
my 2 favourite bands of all time. RIP Chester
Linkin park was my twenty one pilots before twenty pilots came out ♥️ I love them both so much
@@chem4Achange i hope it doesn’t come full circle
He sounds PISSED in this, and I totally get it. He had a great chance to talk about this issue so directly, and he took it. I love that he cares enough to take the time and tell everyone that doing something so horrid and drastic of a decision is not the way out. This song doesn't feel like a song or rap. It feels like a speech or a discussion. It sounds like he sat down with a piece of paper and a pencil, wrote down every thought he was having on this issue, and spoke. It's so raw and almost vulnerable because it sounds like it was meant to be a poem rather than a song. It's almost as if he sat each of us down with him at a table and gave us a window to see into the truth.
I 100% agree
Oh, this is
This is beautiful
Damn
2019 anyone? - 5k likes, thoughtful comment- not a glance
This and friend please are so incredibly useful. Those who aren’t fans here listen to those songs and feel cared for. People who have never heard tøp before
Damn this song physically hurts
feel it in my chest
I'm actually crying I don't understand
Donut Dragon it’s midnight where I’m at in Texas an I’m sitting in a literal corner on the floor crying to this song. Everything hurts.
it sure does
The part where he says if he loses to himself😭😭 I was crying so hard but I didn’t want my roommate to hear so my throat is burning trying to stifle the pain
this track has a special place in my heart.
Dylan Fallon same
I'm not trying to be rude but how?
😍😍😍
Akumusi ikr lmao it was released two mins ago what you mean dude
David M unless you indulged in the L word
"Promise me this,
If I lose to myself,
You won't mourn a day,
And you'll move onto someone else."
This hit my heart hard.
me too man, me too.
hey bandito!
Every time I hear this line I immediately tear up, every time.
I’m thinking about Josh when i heard this line.. :)
I think this is the rawest discussion of suicide I've ever seen. No prose, no pulled punches, nothing. Just speaking directly to the listener with a very, very sharp, concise message.
This is twenty one pilots
Welcome to twenty one pilots club🤗
@@blurryfacetm3616 @Brayden Swope Eh i think this song sticks out a bit from their other songs. I think it'd be actually really silly to say that a lot of other twenty one pilots are as blunt as this song. I mean, the last two TOP albums are literally built around metaphors. Some of their songs that deal with suicide the most use extensive metaphors, like Trapdoor, Migraine, HLTY, etc. I'm not gonna act like this song doesn't beat around the bush at points or make use of figurative language, but this song is still extremely blunt compared to other TOP songs. And that's a good thing.
ya, this band nurtures my ideations quite well.
@@platonicbuu7454 this band nurtures my love for poetic lyricism...they really are lyrical meisers
*MY EYES ARE WET*
PILLOW PILOTS your here FINALLY
*my eyes are sweaty*
ME TOO BROSKI, ME TOO😭😭
saaaaame
Same T°T
honestly "promise me this, if i lose to myself, you wont mourn a day, and you'll move on to someone else" hits me harder than a million G notes-
sAme
Em true!!!! he makes a lot of points in this song, one being that he could be tempted to commit suicide to get recognition ("i could go out with a bang, they will know my name") but at the same time complains about its over glorification and how life should be celebrated instead
It's actualy scary, is this a note to jenna 😟😟
Em ikr
Frfr same
The last verse is probably the most important; it is talking about how so many TOP fans glorify Josh and Tyler and not the lyrics/message: "maybe we swap out what it is that we hold so high" It is not about Tyler or Josh being gods of a culture, it's about living above the culture and bettering ourselves. The boys are just human like us; they never wanted to be worshiped and it's about time that we started taking their real message to heart... love yourself, not us.
@E Sommerville Deep 😞
@E Sommerville woah i thought this meme died years ago
amen amen! i wish this comment had more reads
@E Sommerville a train from the sky? ; )
@@emmaa8615 thx : )
I'm pretty sure that the last verse is about the people who say that tøp's music glorifies depression and makes kid's issues worse. He's saying that he wants a space for his own voice and his own beliefs.
Yeah agreed.
It also finds a second meaning in that our culture glorifies young artists that die. IE, Mac Miller, xxtentacion, lil peep. The list goes on and on. So many of my friends love these guys just because they died. Don’t get me wrong there is a lot to love there, but Tyler is saying don’t love them simply because they died.
@@InvokeCrisis this. I think this happens so much & it's sad.
*Promise me this,*
*If I lose to myself,*
*You won’t mourn a day,*
*And you’ll move onto* *someone else.*
Well carry on
Even though your dead and gone your. Memory will carry on. Mcr
I love this part in the song! It's my favorite line!
Promise me this
You'll stay with me
My blood
Promise me this,
You wont lose to yourself,
You'll keep on fighting,
And you'll be here for someone else
@@TosterTomer thank you.
This is heavy. I had to take a break while listening to the album after this one. It’s such an important message and it’s delivered perfectly. It really makes you think.
Yeah. True.
Ikr and I just woke up
exactly
;👍
break* but your comment is so true!
As it's September 2020 as i'm writing this, It's currently National Suicide Prevention month, Not going to lie, It hits different. I've been so stressed lately Since school started, it's made me wanna give up. Twenty One Pilots as a whole made me feel safe, and proud. The cliche as a whole makes me happy. And Tyler, For giving This month a time to go back and honor this Month. Thank you, Tyler & Josh. And, thanks to whoever read this. Stay alive frens. I-/
I know what you feel
Love you, hang in ,you gotz this💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Hey @Comisicz, 4 months after writing this, how are you feeling?
glad i found this comment, stay alive fren
My birthday is September
The ending is so POWERFUL and I applaud Tyler for making this statement! The shows like 13 reasons why and other forms of “raising awareness for suicide” isn’t equating to prevention of it. It always paints this picture that the people around you didn’t try hard enough to save you so you should use suicide as a weapon against them. It’s toxic and it’s not helping in a society where we joke about wanting to die 24/7. Instead of glorifying death we need to put the focus back on how beautiful and worth it is to stay alive. |-/
Bri totally agree!
Well said
Bri Completely agree👏
You could interpretate the same message into "13 reasons why" though. Yes, it shows a person using suicide as a weapon but that person isnt the main character. The show mainly revolves around Clay dealing with the suicide->getting hit by that weapon.
Jim reeves
Something about this album feels different. It's heavier. Tyler's message is clear and powerful. Im blown away.
Elizabeth McMains And all the falsettos😍😍😍
This album is the best music
It's like Blurryface was to draw attention and now he wants to use the fame for good
This song hits me so hard. It really does explain how when someone commits suicide people glorify it, but when someone decides to continue living, nothing happens at all.
That's crazy....me staying alive has helped me and my family...and according to Tyler that's something TO CELEBRATE.
It WAS HARD...BUT I STAYED THANK GOD.
420th like✋
(i'm sorry)
Same
People don't think about what it does to the people left behind who love them
"Find your grandparents, or someone of age, pay them respects to the path that they paved, to *life* they were dedicated, now *that* should be celebrated."
honestly one of my favorite quotes
One of mine too
It definitely is great, however the part before it is better and hits harder and deeper
Yeah I put the song on repeat sometime just for that line. I refuse to get deep in that hole again.
"if i lose to myself"
just imagining life without tyler or top makes me wanna cry.
Sir, you forgot the ø this is a warning....
@@ThWrdKds I can not do it on my cell phone.😢😢😢
tyler, josh or tøp you mean?
aquo exactly😶👍
I would relish the chance to live in a world without those pricks
Those of you worried about Tyler - I was too. But remember the lines: “neon gravestones try to call for my bones... *but they won’t get em.*” Tyler is strong. He will stay with us.
Annie Keller yea,because he has got money now
All the money in the world can't and won't keep a person alive
@@damasafaka3741 And the award for most frustrating comment goes to...
@@sodapopresaleshop So true, man.
@@1640-t8u Exactly.
“Promise me this if I lose to myself you won’t mourn a day, and you’ll move on to someone else” dudeeee
Edit: I’ve listened to this song over and over and this line hurts every time
That made me so sad
This hit me hard !!!
I could give up
Boost my reputation
I could go out with a bang
They would know my name
They say "How could he go if he's got everything? I'll mourn for a kid but won't cry for a king."
Promise me this: if I lose to myself, you won't mourn a day, and you'll move onto someone else
That part made me never want to make promises ever again.
Abbey E i literally saw this comment as that part started lol
This song actually saved my life.......
Remember suicide doesn't erase your pain it only passes it on
As someone who struggles with depression and anxiety I would never want anybody to feel the way I do
But it's sad how many people actually do.
True.
You are so strong we are fighting with you
I dont know if i am going to live to see 2021 but who knows..........If its my time its my time to go
Stay alive, Stay alive for me - Twenty One Pilots (Truce)
Wish they'd play songs like this more on the radio, might actually help someone. I'll take Neon Gravestones over "Break up with your girlfriend, I'm bored" any day.
extra delux, 100% agree...the songs that now play on the radio rarely ever have a good meaning to them. All about partying and drugs. Hope they’ll play songs like this
I honestly agree 100% Ari can get a little annoying but Tyler and Josh...... never
yes
Ari has a nice voice. Like Tyler's, it could be empowering if she just made the central message of her song just a bit more...meaningful
Nah dude ariana's voice just sounds like an xbox squeaker with autotune, pretty fucking annoying
"I’m not disrespecting what was left behind,
Just pleading that it does not get glorified"
@@_Listen_to_Solar_Kama_Sutra bruh really.
@@_Listen_to_Solar_Kama_Sutra no one gives a fuck. were all tryna listen to Neon Gravestones by the best band and be sad. Leave us alone.
@@wttdotcom8177 take your toxic self elsewhere. The clique is not supposed to be a negative space and I 100% appreciate what star said and will check out the band. Crawl back into your cave and come back when your attitude is fixed my dude.
@@Raccocooney Oof, not gonna happen my dude. Im not gonna "take my toxic self elsewhere" I enjoy Tøp and not all fucking clikkies want to be interupted with some promoting shit. Their reply had nothing to do with the comment, nothing.
Just report for advertising/spam and move on it's not that hard. I came here for replies that relate to the OP's comment not this.
That being said, those lyrics hit hard.
This song opens up a new conversation about how important it is not to romanticise suicide/glorify it, and I feel like this was such a good way of getting this message across. The spoken word part at the ends hits so hard oml.
It's why I condemn 13 Reasons Why so much.
greenadrenaline6405 You could argue that 13rw discusses the idea of collective responsibility, but I feel like it almost sexualises suicide, and causes people to idealise something so tragic.
Neon Cheetah Called Jason your pfp bothers me bc it’s not perfectly in the circle
Erin_LaneBoy I legit just noticed that, sorry :)
@@louisajones6105 It has glorified, idealized, romanticized, capitalized and institutionalized the act. Netflix got greedy with a second season when there was no reason for it other than to make money. It's despicable and don't even get me started on how they bastardized a great band like Lord Huron to make one of their most beautiful songs into a call to be sad and depressed together.
1:36 “I could give up and boost my reputation, I could go out with a bang and they would know my name.” He sounds like he’s about to cry there, it hurts me so much
Noo😭
There's something very wrong with how Netflix and the music industry have portrayed suicide. Thank you for speaking the truth
Netflix movies makes it seem like it's barely anything. It's honestly wrong how they do that. #StayAlive
Why netflix ?o;
I dont watch movies on netflix
@@shadowpriest300 Netfix "14 reasons why" made suicide out to be a martyrdom.
@_affluenza_ like I needed another reason 0_o
Unpopular opinion, every Netflix original series is like trash HBO
''Find your grandparents or someone of age,
Pay some respects for the path that they paved,
To life they were dedicated.
Now that should be celebrated.''
That gives me the chills.
Smooth Zebra same, when i first listened to that line i literally gasped lol
I’m shook
I’m crying
I'm crying man, this album is so good, ever since No Phun Intended we've been here, here's to the next. |-/
Same, its the best song lyric of the year tbh
Smooth Zebra I only have one grandparent who isn’t very old 👌😭
'Find your grandparents or someone of age,
Pay some respect to the path that they paved,
To life they were dedicated
Now that should be celebrated'
Oh my God
ana ja mislio jedinini odavde slusam top
That touched me in such a way. I have no grandparents left. My grandmother died this summer and she was such a good example of someone who thrived even in the hardest of times (she lived the spanish civil war as a kid on the loser band, the republicans... she cared for all her brothers and her parents when they were really old). She was such a strong and wise woman... She was there when I was depressed too, always motivating and caring for my well being.I really miss her. (Sorry for my english, guys!)
@@lillithjones3787 Tyler lost his grandfather a few months back...you are blessed to have had a grandmother like that....love to you ||-//
Some of the best words.
Best Name Ever Oof nisi jedini. Im here fren
I’ll mourn for a kid but won’t cry for a king.
RIP Liam of 1D
Those chords are heavenly
And the percussion too, thx Josh
.
thanks Pete
Jish*
@@blaisedavison3492 exactly
not really. Its Beethoven -moonlight sonata mixed in with tons of pop in it. The way the notes shift and hangs is rewashed pop done a mill times. The beethoven rip is fucking sad tho. I put 21-P on a high place in my music list and this is just a let down. ''Stressed out lyric : I wish I found some chords in an order that is new ~ '' So its a major let down.
I cannot express how much I appreciate this song and how TØP are using their influence to promote this. Suicide’s recent glorification (from recent suicides in the news and 13 Reasons Why) is so incredibly dangerous and evil and I love that TØP is speaking to us, the people who need to hear this, and loudly saying this is not okay. Suicide is a tragedy, not an escape. Suicide transfers pain to others. No matter how difficult what you’re going through is, the fact that you’re still alive right now shows that you CAN get through the pain. I swear it will end or you will be able to deal with it. Whether it’s internal or external, continue on. Be there for others and yourself.
Marie Top i completely agree. It breaks my heart when suicide is so romanticized and glorified; it makes people think that its a viable option when it’s ABSOLUTELY terrible. Twenty one pilots is so important; we need true artists like this to help cure our culture’s illness
i have bad news, I don't think he'll live long... he's suicidal if you read the lines you'll see. im sorry
I purely agree with the most of the things you are saying, but a person who tends to be suicidal, is thinking about what's feeling and how they cannot handle it anymore. It's selfish, but saying that it just transfers the pain it's the same. How do you expect for someone with that kind of thoughs to put somenone else's sorrow and pain above his own? It's somehow unffair
@@kyeo5925 where is it written is this song?
@@kyeo5925 I can see why you understand it that way, but I think you just didn't listen to the song enough.
He does say 'neon gravestones try to call for my bones' (suicide is so glorified that it's tempting even for him to use it as a tool), but then later he says 'but they won't get them. No, they won't get them.' I believe 'them' refers to his bones - he's not going to let himself slip away like that. Also, the slight positive vibe at the end really makes me think that this song is, at the end, really hopeful.
This reminds me of the old TwentyOnePilots days... Regional at Best and Vessel.
You feel that vibes?
Wish we could turn back time, to the good ol' days..
@@MajorJack92 these are good days too... Same twenty one pilots art 💛
I know fam, I was jk. This album is sick as frick.
Rise their new music reminds me of a mixture of ALL of their music (newer and way older). It’s amazing and takes my breathe away.
This is my faveorite tøp song, not cause its "emo" or "edgey" but because it speaks truth and nothi g but. This system treats scuicide like its something to glorify, instead of trying to figure out how to stop it its almost a normal way of dying now. Thank you tyler joseph.
And now suicide is the 10th most common cause of death in the united states
@@babatunde6950 😔
"Promise me this, if I lose to myself, you won't mourn a day, and you'll move on to someone else"
*_who rubbed onions in my eyes_*
@The Large Beast ay look, TH-cam decided not to notify me that you replied! Lol. ||-//
I think it was Tyler that rubbed onions in your eyes
Tyler doesn’t make songs, he makes onions. Tyler is an onion.
sorry Tyler i dont wanna lose you and i mourn all days in a future for you
@The Large Beast wow my name is Ayla too lol. Stay alive fren |-/
The song is not about the anger he feels for people who think suicide is a way out. It’s about the anger he feels towards people who “glorify” suicide rather than celebrate what’s still with us. Hence the last bit where he talks about finding your grandparents and paying “respects for the path that they made”. He feels people should praise the people who have stuck with us, rather than those who have lost the tragic battle against suicide.
Out of the whole entire album this song is #3 trending. That says alot. People need to hear it. *All of it.*
It's probably the only song besides the pre-released songs that is both meaningful and interesting.
Brian McHaney Leave the City? Smithereens?
This makes so much sense after that interview...the bishops have this religion vialism where they celebrate death...they want Tyler dead but Tyler is fighting them... the bishops religion represents Tyler's mental health and then there's jenna and josh trying to save him....and the blocks surrounding dema are graves
plus the fact Tyler and Josh risked their whole career for this song to exist. I don't know ... if I ever was on their position I don't think I could have shown this level of artistic integrity.
I mean just imagine, what if this song was indeed misunderstood by the mass public? Keeping in mind the cancel culture that exists on the internet today , who knows what could have happened?
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@@nicolasbourbaki8251 if cancel culture finds this, we should defend
Yes, it’s basically his mind, what is going on
It’s not Tyler fighting it’s Clancy per the story line and it’s not Jenna and josh trying to save him it’s the banditos per story line. Just wanna clear things up :)
"Neon gravestones try to call for my bones." Tyler is describing the gravestone being covered in neon lights, fame, publicity, from the grave. Some people become more famous and are better remembered after they die, and people are almost always glorified after suicide. Tyler is saying not to let this be. Life should be more celebrated, glorified, and remembered. "I could give up," he could give up the fight. "and boost my reputation," think about how much publicity and fame it would bring. "I could go out with a bang, they would know my name" he would be remembered for a long time because of it. This song well puts a lot of what I think about. I'm not suicidal, but I've always thought it strange when people talk about it with glorification and talk about the person so highly while they never did while they were still alive. Let's celebrate life instead, speak of each other highly now, and realize we're flawed, but we can improve.
Hope my little interpretation resonates with some people. I love finding deeper meanings in writing or songs.
thats what i have been saying
Vincent van Gogh is a good example of this
I totally agree with your interpretation
Rose GemHeart I’ve been having a hard time explaining the meaning to my friends(and why it’s like my favorite song in trench) and this is exactly what I was trying to describe. Thank you.
This song is so important and has to be heard by as many people as possible. For all the people who said that twenty one pilots glorify and romanticize suicide and mental illness. Tyler and Josh are one of the few genuine people in the music industry who didn't sell their values for fame and money. They believe in something bigger and they do everything to share it with us. I don't want any stupid hate going towards them anymore cause the only reason they're here is for us and for the lives they save every day. They truly deserve to be appreciated and this message deserves to be spread. Twenty one pilots doesn't glorify mental illnesses. Twenty one pilots is just two guys trying to save lost kids who are going through darkest times and find peace with their music. Please spread this song as much as you can!! I love you clique, stay alive |-/
This comment deserves more attention, because I feel so identified with the dark time thing
Because I'm fighting depression, without a father (who dumped his family for a younger girl) and a mother that is very close-minded (I don't know if I said well the expression)
And that is me. A guy who found months before some friends, and is trying to survive life
@@senorlechuga8832 aw I'm so sorry for all the bad things you're going through :( I'm sending you all the best wishes, I'm sure it'll get better, just hang on and remember to see good side in smallest things, gratitude is key to happiness
@@katodolidze1265 Thank you very much. Glad to see there is still goodness in humanity (it was goodness? I'm from Spain, sorry for my english)
And, I don't know. Thank you.
Also, I plan on doing things to make people happy when I'll get out of this. (Wanted to say it xP)
katusha x you are right for the most part, but there are a few tøp songs that don’t glorify suicide but still leave the listener feeling depressed because of the overall depressing tone. But for the most part, tøp is against suicide, and the lyrics for this song are good.
@@alexanderduran8982 well art is supposed to be emotional and make u feel things, it wouldn't be good without it. Although a song can't make someone depressed and if it does that just means that the person was already at bad mental state and needs help :/
"find your grandparents or someone of age, pay some respects for the path that they paved, to life they were dedicated, now that should be celebrated."
They sung this bit right as I clicked on this comment
This lyric really hit me . I should've done that earlier . I regret everything . 🙁
That’s the lyric that brings tears to my eyes. They saved a lot of lives with this song
Tin Man so sad that you spread such negativity. I only wish you find positive actions in your life
That lyric hits me hard as a hammer.
I love the part when he mentioned "Don’t get me wrong, the rise in awareness,
Is beating a stigma that no longer scares us" As someone that has experienced in the mental health field I noticed that although is amazing to raise mental health awareness and lot of misconceptions come out from it. Lately I been seeing a lot people glorying some mental disorders and younger generations using suicide as a joke when it should not be and I think that's what Tyler says here we are not scare of the stigma of mental health anymore so maybe is has become easier to glorify certain mental illness.
There is no problem with making jokes with suicide, it's just humor.
@@vicho5960 There's difference between making simple jokes to cope and jokes that mock/make light of suicide
its not even they think of it as a joke, they think its an escape
which to me is scarier
"Promise me this,
If I lose to myself,
You won’t mourn a day,
And you'll move onto someone else."
damn
crying
"Find your grandparents or someone of age,
Pay some respects for the path that they paved,
To life they were dedicated.
Now that should be celebrated."
DAMN GREAT NOW I`M SOBBING!!!
“An earlier grave is an optional way”
“No.”
This is literally a beautiful verse. PREACH 🙌🙌🙌
The words in this song are amazing
preach
Neon gravestones try to call
Neon gravestones try to call for my bones
@@sorryimissed"but they won't get them, no they won't get them"
This album gives me self titled/regional at best/no phun intended vibes and I’ve never been happier
Casey Galloway I agree. It’s almost like they made this album for the fans that were around before Blurryface.
Same sameee
I will never be able to get over how direct and upfront Tyler is. He doesn't care about the stigma around topics. He says what he's thinking and feeling and puts it into his music and it's amazing. I love it. It's helped me more times than I care to admit.
*”Promise me this, if I lose to myself you won’t mourn a day and you’ll move on to someone else.”* I talked with my friend about this specific line. At first we thought it was about Jenna, moving on if Tyler were to pass away. Then we said, what if he’s asking Josh to continue Twenty One Pilots? Then we thought... what if he’s asking *us*? That if Tyler were to die, he doesn’t want us to be depressed about it and hurt ourselves. He doesn’t want us to mourn him, he wants to be, in a sense, celebrated for the path he paved for us? Just food for thought :))
I think the first part is exactly right, but I would like to shed some light on the final lines. He says “find your grandparents or someone of age” then he says “to life they were dedicated, now that should be celebrated.” Tyler wants us to celebrate the elderly, and any other people that are still alive after struggling with depression. They dedicated themselves to life... they overcame their struggles and that should be celebrated.
I think it's more Tyler highlighting that if he was selfish enough to loose a battle to his own inner demons to not celebrate it. He's condemning suicide and saying we should support living long life, even when there is sometimes pain or struggle
I wasn't crying until you mention the poor and cute Josh :(
slaydynbrooke nope. He doesn't want people to celebrate or mourn him because he gave up, your assumption makes sense, just not in the context of this song. He believes that if he gives up or "loses to himself" he shouldn't be mourned.
My heart aches
I was binge-listening to this album, but like after this song, I had to take a break. This song is so heavy. What a great message, but like this isn’t something that can just be listened to casually. This one hit hard my bois
Declan McGhee that’s literally where I’m at rn I spend the last 30 minutes after this specific song was released crying in a corner. (I’m not exaggerating)
I woke up at 5 just to wait on this notification.
Same
Heavy song with an important message. I can't sleep on this one. I'll cry all night.
Same. I've been crying this whole album, just by reading along the lyrics with the song... but this one. Damn.
For everyone who thinks that TOP glorifies suicide or in anyway supports it, just read the lyrics. Tyler literally tells us that if he does it, that we shouldn't even mourn or celebrate him. Only to celebrate those who lived their lives to the fullest. God, I love this band!
It's an anti suicide song
"They say "How could he go if he's got everything?"
I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king." ..."Find your grandparents or someone of age,
Pay some respects for the path that they paved,
To life they were dedicated.
Now that should be celebrated." ...such powerful writing, not to mention wicked sound. I love their use of piano, TOP band, YES!!
Yasssss I agree
Its kinda weird that of all the song of the albums, this is the one that is on trending. I hope musical.ly kids dont find it but people who trully need it
Kids struggle with suicidal thoughts too.
Musically kids need it too. Didn't u ever sing in the mirror as a kid? That's all their doing. But they can share it. Doesn't make it less meaningful and beautiful to them.
My mom went all in on my Daughter and Musically until I reminded her that her and her father lip synced and sung in the mirror (I don't think together. I think she got caught doing it. Was embarrassed and Grandpa said "I used to sing in the mirror too" to make her feel better) needless to say, once looked at like that mom stopped being a jurk. It's the same expression and emotion involved in the music, along with narcissism, (lol) it's just expressed on a slightly different platform. If we didn't have mirrors or Camera phones kids would sing along to music while looking in puddles or lakes.
Riot Girl i like your way of putting it i just wish they werent so sexual sometimes
@@Sheepbaj I so don't believe u. Lol. If you ever did any kind of dance you watched ur movement in mirror. So many things require a mirror to coordinate. Ever done a exercise class? So maybe u didn't ACTUALLY lip sync In the mirror, but u have done other like things.
Fuck that *everybody* has sung in the mirror! If you say u haven't ur lying. Lol.
"To life they were dedicated.
Now that should be celebrated."
I'm just in awe, I'm shaking. Fuck i might even cry haha, idk but i feel like i need to thank him. Well, I can't, but i needed to hear this. So thank you, yeah, I want to live.
notso sunny me too
Stay living my g!!! Im here if you need me! :)
i cant speak for the rest of the clique but this is how i know i and lots of others feel so yeah okay
I might cry? Well, i cried
*In trench I’m not alone.* 🌻
it's been 2 years, and this still hits hard. what really got me was the "they say "how could he go if he's got everything?"" don't ignore the signs, and don't invalidate the feelings because of material reasons.
'I'll mourn for a kid but won't cry for a king" IM SOBBING HELP
I dont really understand that lyric, could you explain?
I just wanted to point out that the two words ‘suicide’ and ‘death’ aren’t used in this song nor in (nearly) any other song of ‘Trench’.
While they were used kind of frequently before:
‘fear might be the death of me’
‘they tried the suicidal session’
‘Sundays are my suicide days’
‘They are killing themselves’
‘Everything I’ve ever made is dead now inside a grave’
...
So now I wonder whether that’s because he’s trying to make the point that exposing people to these topics involves a risk of either wrong presentation (eg 13 reasons why) or wrong interpretation (glorification).
But the whole album doesn’t use direct expression like prior ones. And Tyler sings about what’s on his mind, so maybe death doesn’t feel as threatening to him anymore?
That would also explain why he sounds so choked up (‘when they...’) instead of saying it point-blank.
The point I’m trying to make is: I think he’s talking about mental health from an outsider’s point of view, not from one who’s currently going through it. Not anymore |-/
we sing to the sky also self harm. “They glorify them even more when they...” I think that blank is cutting.
Also “it” in this song represents suicide and death, pretty sure that’s an obvious one
we sing to the sky but morph starts with "can't stop thinking about if and when i die"
mackvnzie I first thought that the blank meant ‘when they are dead/gone’ but ‘when they cut’ fits as well.
And yes, that’s what I was trying to say: that the lyrics are about suicide, death and self-harm but those words aren’t used explicitly and so the lyrics differ from older ones.
FlyingDeers that’s right, thank you for pointing it out! I forgot about Morph, my mistake 🙈
Event though you could argue that Morph is talking about suicide but steers clear of that word. But why avoid that word now when he literally yells it in earlier songs?
I guess something changed between recording Blurryface and Trench. I might be interpreting way too much into it, but just wanted to share my thoughts |-/
|| - //
“this song will save at least one persons life” indeed.
spicy italian meatball literally what I thought.... fav song
i can also confirm.
I don’t see it in the lyrics what part is that at?
Well it’s about how the news glorifies all these school shootings to push an agenda. So it could actually “save” far more.
Or it might end one😞
LYRICS:
What's my problem?
Well, I want you to follow me down to the bottom,
Underneath the insane asylum,
Keep your wits about you while you got ‘em,
‘Cause your wits are first to go while you're problem-solving.
And my problem?
We glorify those even more when they..
My opinion, our culture can treat a loss,
Like it’s a win and right before we turn on them,
We give them the highest of praise,
And hang their banner from a ceiling,
Communicating, further engraving,
An earlier grave is an optional way.
No.
Neon gravestones try to call for my bones.
What's my problem?
Don't get it twisted.
It's with the people we praise who may have assisted,
I could use the streams and extra conversations,
I could give up, and boost up my reputation,
I could go out with a bang, they would know my name,
They would host and post a celebration.
My opinion will not be lenient,
My opinion, it's real convenient,
Our words are loud, but now I'm talking action,
We don't get enough love? Well, they get a fraction.
They say "How could he go if he's got everything?"
I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king.
Promise me this,
If I lose to myself,
You won’t mourn a day,
And you'll move onto someone else.
But they won’t get them. No they won’t get them.
Don’t get me wrong, the rise in awareness,
Is beating a stigma that no longer scares us,
But for sake of discussion, in spirit of fairness,
Could we give this some room for a new point of view?
And could it be true that some could be tempted,
To use this mistake as a form of aggression,
A form of succession, a form of a weapon,
Thinking “I’ll teach them,” well, I’m refusing the lesson,
It won’t resonate in our minds.
I’m not disrespecting what was left behind,
Just pleading that it does not get glorified,
Maybe we swap out what it is that we hold so high.
Find your grandparents or someone of age,
Pay some respects for the path that they paved,
To life they were dedicated.
Now that should be celebrated.
*_I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king._*
I replayed that line so many times. It hits me so hard.
i dont get it.. is it a reference to something i missed? can you explain?
I really don't mean to bother you but do you know the meaning?
@@carpenoctem796 sorry im so late oof but I believe Tyler is saying that people ignore depression and other mental health issues when they see famous or well off people commiting suicide because they think these well off people _should_ be happy. So they see it as an extreme measure for attention. An example of this thinking would be a person saying, "Why would a king commit suicide, he has power, money, and fame. He just got attention hungry there's no way he could be depressed, but I understand why this young boy would commit, he has stress from school and maybe trouble making friends, he has a reason to be truly depressed."
@@riyyahinglis3148 sorry i took forever but i answered it now lol
“Promise me this
If I lose to myself
You won’t mourn for a day
And you’ll move onto someone else”
😭😭
this part gets me 😭
AAAAHHHHHHHHH
this part gets me, too
Sorry, no can do. If Tyler dies, I'ma forever.
I can't do that. I hope that Tyler knows that none of us can do that.
notice how he never says "suicide" or anything along the lines of it. he simply skips saying the word (0:41) or just calls suicide "it" (3:40)
wow soo deep 😤😤😤
@@eduards9379 'gloriafieing'
please tell me where did you get this photo what was the app
@@ayanoaishi1932 they tried lol
I think it is because strsight up saying it is cheesy, they use metaphors or, for example that, to make it less cheesy
Only a few people realizes how powerful Trench songs were. Will forever be my favorite
I love it so much when the piano starts playing and Tyler is talking. I feel like it adds such an emotional connection to the song.
Kaylee McCabe car radio vibes
Kaylee McCabe Taken By Sleep vibes
Jøëŷ Përëz I agree
I liked what he had said before...
let's glorify getting old instead.
This song IS a conversation starter. Its true that in the desperate endeavor to raise awareness for things like mental disorders, they have become a key point that can bring fame to many. It has thus been normalized even though this is not something that should be normal (health wise). I mean you hear of a celeb suicide and the simple act of saying things such as "they're free" does actually glorify suicide because of what it implies. It takes away from the gravity of the situation. I can't remember but I heard a podcast that actually said celeb suicides DO raise suicide rates.
To a minor extent I also hear so many of my classmates saying things like "I want to die" jokingly and obviously they don't do it with negative intents however someone who personally deals with some pretty severe thoughts won't be taken as seriously when they do try to speak out.
Conversations are important but being logical and not glorifying is key.
Let's begin to glorify living.
What if it's true what do you do
Tell them to stop then see them die
To a blade of there own knife
Amen
Thank you.
This _hurts_ too much.
My grandmother survived the Holocaust and my grandfather fought in the Korean War. Tyler and Josh are so inspiring. We shouldn't glorify depression, self harm, anxiety, suicide. A lot of people brand them as promoting suicide and depression but they are trying to stop it. People say that we're all just cutter teens, but it's more. We are more than our labels. We are more than they see. Stay strong, stay alive. ||-//
I love you, skeleton clique.
Nice
@Craze Vlogs a SPOON?! now, that's awesome
why did this get 123 likes wtf
@@micasong453 Because it's important. That's why.
I agree. This world has turned mental health disorders into something that is okay and sometimes people will betray them as cool. They have turned serious problems into something that they are most definitely not.
I lost someone today: Mino.
He was 98 years old and I met him one year ago because my mom was his caregiver.
Since the first time I met him, I felt my grandpa sent me Mino to help me cope with his loss happened one year before.
So Mino for me was another grandpa. He was so kind and humble. He was telling me the best stories about the sacrifices he had to go through when he was young and how children use to work and study at the same time to help their families, reaching his school walking miles away from home and same to go back home after school. There were no cars, only donkeys or your feet to use.
After school, one back home, he had to help the parents with grazing animals and all the hard work there was behind farming.
Everyday he was telling me about his lovely wife who padded away last September and for me was difficult to see his tears and couldn’t bring back to him. He shared with me the biggest love of his life and the hardest time he had growing up.
Today the earth has lost a special human being. I will miss you Mino and I want to dedicate this song to you, especially the last part.
Thanks for this year of pure love, you will be missed,
Shana ❤
TRENCH IS OUT OMG. I LOVE THIS. I HAVENT EVEN PLAYED IT YET. IM CRYING AHHHH
DestroyerZ564 WHAT ITS OUT AAAAHAHHA
Same dude i NEEDED this tonight
TBH HERE, ITS 12PM AND IM WAITING FOR MY MERCH BUNDLE TO ARRIVE BUT HOLY SHIT IM CRYING
me: im not going to cry this time
*song*:
To life they were dedicated.
Now that should be celebrated.
me: -oh shit, here we go again-
same
Yep, I'm okay until that very line. Every single time.
Without this song the oceans would be empty
Find your grandparents or someone of age,
Pay some respects for the path that they paved,
To life they were dedicated.
Now that should be celebrated.
Yeas!!! To goosebumps and tears
That hit so hard
True, fren!)
That one hit hard because my grandma died when I was 6 and I use to fight with her. I wasn't able to say "thank you"
Amen.
"I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king"
that is one of the best lyrics i've ever heard
My favorite song, not just from the album, but from them ever. This is a hard subject but they always hit it perfectly. Because it is spoken from the heart and head. Stay alive friends.
But most of all the end. Everyone take something from that lesson.
Kyla M you’re so right but I like tonight more 😉
Find your grandparents or someone of age.
And pay your respects for the path that they paved,
For life they were dedicated,
That should be celebrated.
I’m so happy that they are leaving this message. I love twenty one pilots and I will forever.
**now* that should be celebrated
Juniør Puppy you really gotta be that person huh.
This song is a beautiful blessing masterpiece
It’s like you can hear his anger, but not like he’s yelling not that type of anger the type when he’s really trying to tell you something, just listen to him.
Its like a desperate urgency. I cant help but picture him on his knees with his hands out, almost crying but still trying to be strong as he says these things, begging us to not go there
It's that deep seated anger you got over the shouting and the screaming because no-one listened but your not calm yet
There's 2 types of anger, dry and wet. Dry anger is a parent/teacher/etc yelling stereotypically. Wet anger is what you described, the need for someone to understand
I had a fellow classmate that committed suicide today. I barely knew him but I had tiny conversations with him every once in a while. It's hard for me to process what's happening and all I can do is sit and do nothing about it. If you need help, then get help. Please. Rest in peace, my lost friend.
same his name was dominik and he was so nice
*I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king*
The clique is crying
I Really Like That, Living In Seattle, Father of 2 & 1 Is Still Living The Other Is Gone. So Many "Musician?" Suicides Here & My Son In The Mix--I Couldn't Have Said It Better.
I Did However Take my son's Best Friend Growing Up To The Show at the Tacoma Dome 11/16/2018, He Liked The Show And Christopher would have too. I Took He & His Sister to over 60 concerts.......
b l u e d a y s because a king has so much going for him, that there’s no reason for a king to commit suicide.
Do u say clique like this?= cl-A-qu
@@skkye_09 I think it's pronounced like click
This is BRILLIANT and BEAUTIFUL. Our society glorify the dead artists after they commit suicide, but don’t give a damn during their depression and calls for help
Your comment sums it all up perfectly
Not only celebrities, but even regular people.
Mac Miller is a prime example no he didn’t commit suicide but he was obviously dealing with mental issues but no one gave a shit. He had a toxic attitude because of the drugs and his mental health. No one cared. I knew it he had problems but not drug problems. Such a shame. R.i.p.
THANK YOU
It's sad that, out of the whole manifest against glorification of suicide and, by extension, depression that this song represents, people are focused on the "promise me this..." bridge, that is the only part vaguely sad/emo/suicidal. Yeah I know it's strong and deep, but in a song about not romantizing mental illnesses there's a lot of better lines to pick than the single part that kinda indulges it. For example, the final poetry/spoken word verse, that's actually powerful, gives us a lesson and has those optimistic final lines that are simply beautiful.
I think those lines perfectly fit the theme of the song. Maybe he's just saying that if I give up I don't deserve your mourning so don't do that. That sounds cruel but he tries to make people stay alive. I'm not saying that people who just pick those lines understand this.
@@alzbetaborkova1311 well, I somewhat agree with your interpretation, but I'm afraid about people misunderstanding or decontextualizing them, and they becoming a common emo/depressing instagram caption or tweet. Which imo would be the exact opposite of what Tyler wants with this song.
@@javihernandez2755 Yes, you're right.
Also "but they won't get em"
agree, the point of that is the following contrast: they wont get them.
"Some could be tempted to use this mistake as a form of agression" That hit me differently, that line stood out because i know its true, i know that people would do it to tell people how much pain they caused them mentally and physically.
This band helps me and it annoys me if anyone says their bad because their music was the onlything that understood me.
Thanks TØP
I can't stop crying."Promise me this/If I lose to myself/You won't mourn a day" are similar words that are written in my goodbye letter.I never thought to make it after July this year....
Isabell EST I thought I was dying in February
Stay with us
I'm so glad you two are still with us ♡ I'm so proud of you guys :D
I'm proud of you💛
Stay with us, NEVER give up
Reminds me alot of the self-titled album
00 darthboi yeah me too. But I think it also has kind of a regional at best vibe
PREACH IT.
YES
The whole album sounded like a mix of regional and self titled, and I absolutely loved it.
the way he says "it".. *im not okay*
which one 'it'?
"Just pleading that 'it' doesn't get glorified."
When?
I'm not okay.... I promise👏👈
@3:40 “it”
On the other unpopular things to talk about are the unhealthy and bad uses of suicide. Well, the common instances are escape from pain but most of us seem to ignore that some use it to gain attention, or to threaten, or to gain something - which causes manipulation upon other people. And thats what Tyler warns other people not to use suicide for people to glorify and to romanticize.. it is never right.
Rather, Tyler tells us, instead, to celebrate life as it happens and the way the elders paved the way for us and gave us lessons from their experiences. However, we often neglect our elderly and leave them alone in homes of the aged which deprives them of love and care... and that us what is also missing from us. Rather than giving love to those are still alive, we give them to those who are already lost.
that last verse is 100% the most important verse of the year. so much truth and power said so beautifully
@ all you locals watching this because it’s on trending. Please support this. Support them. These are the type of bands that should be heard.
John Appleseed are u dumb? do u realize the message about suicide behind this ? this and many of their songs speak abt not glorifying suicide . tired of ppl speaking abt fake depression take your nap cry and go
John Appleseed imagine caring so much abt what ppl diagnose themselves with and not minding ur business darn
yall settle down. This song means something and should be talked about for what he is saying. unfortunately that is the problem with our culture, no one talks about these problems and that's exactly why he wrote this song. They don't talk about suicide ("it") or how people struggle with mental illnesses so those struggling feel alone or like they shouldn't find help which isn't the case. So i do think this song should be spread. So people can learn they're not alone.
@@JohnDoe-ov7jo you know I thought I could go the day without facepalming at something dumb.... You broke it. Lemme share my opinion. I entirely disagree with what you commented. It is not unhealthy to spread music about suicide. Look at a song that got really popular recently like Logic - 1-800-273-8255, now that song talked about suicide and spread a beautiful message. The title of the song is literally a suicide hotline so that people that were feeling like giving up could call it and get help. What kind of sick person thinks that's bad? Here, and with his other music Tyler shares what he thinks, how certain things bother him and how he feels, by doing that he gives a community. An entire place to feel not alone. Do you realize that the message he sings of is hope (ESPECIALLY WITH THE ALBUM THIS SONG BELONGS TO), a hope of getting better? The entire community created by Twenty One Pilots focuses on supporting each other. Whenever I see someone feeling down in the comment section (especially of something TOP related) I see a plethora of replies that simply say "Stay Alive friend I-/". That's because we have a place where we know others may be feeling what we are and that there's someone there to hear us and not disregard us because they may know what its like feeling like absolute shit and wouldn't wish that on anyone. That's what I get when I listen to their music. That someone is there for me... Not only Tyler and Josh. ADDITIONALLY, I find it rude that you assume the state of someones depression. Sure, as a teenager things that adults may see as minuscule depress us, because at that stage those things are the most we know, the most important things. Think about when you were a child, I remember being like 4 years old and feeling like I was the shit because I could count to 100 and spell 'community'. Because at that stage it was important. So don't discredit someone's feelings. You can never know what they've been through. AND PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS GLORIFIES DEPRESSION.
STFU@@JohnDoe-ov7jo
*#3 on trending...* THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT
Seth Reid 4 now
@@jubbsticks sadly
emma bridgers yesh
8 now..
Seth Reid I saw it was #8
I tear up every time I listen to this song. The words are so powerful and so beautiful.
I honestly think tøp is one of the deepest bands ever.Heroes r not remembered because of compensation ,but because of what they did.
“I’ll mourn for a kid, but won’t cry for a king
Then you remember they also made songs like TB Saga and Coconut Sharks In The Water
PLAISERG Steve bobby “but compensation feels a lot like rising up to dominate by track two at least they all know all they hear comes from a place” I’m sorry that just came to my head when you said compensate
“
Yes it is
How can something be sad but so fire
Because Tøp exist
Tyler Joseph, that's how.
Tyler's bath was worth it.
Very much so.
indeed.
Okay not the right song to comment this on but that's still hilarious 😂
this is my fav song so it was the right song to comment on for me XD
I’m here after listening the discord interview. Now I can hear and understand this song from a totally new perspective. Tyler is a genius and I’m happy for him to take the risk and put this song on the album.
You know I’ve always thought Tyler was just preaching his past thoughts on depression and that he’s okay now. But going through such a thing and listening to all the lyrics they’ve wrote.. the sad truth is it never truly goes away. Instead you learn to live with it. And we are witnesses to their choice of living in their songs.
And as they sing, countless lives are being saved. I’m so blessed to be listening to their story.
Demi Lovato also released sober...then she was taken in hospital :/
"Does TØP glorify suicide"
_NO_
"Is suicide the answer"
_NO_
"Engraving an earlier grave is an optional way"
_N_
_O_
have the artists you listen to made a six-minute song about taco Bell
nO
@Random Person ummmmmmmmm try again
I am the TRUE viper
Find your grandparents or someone of age. Pay some respects for the path that they paved. To life, they were dedicated. Now that should be celebrated
hi.. everyone out there, i'm sorry to disturb you but please replay NEON GRAVESTONES and Morph because they really deserve it.. these are songs that can save lives!! *spread the message if you can*
The Bandito concert was my first ever TØP concert
I went with my big sister
And during this she stated crying
I’m pretty sure a lot of other people did
This song is sad and touching
That_Happy_Child I know I will and maybe her too, I myself am on the same boat as im going to my first ever TØP concert in June, the Bandito Tour. I am also going with my older sister (as a very late birthday present lol) and I cry listening to this song just like this. I’m going to cry even more when I see it live
This is beautiful... 😊
Same
Damn girl, not a long time ago I went on a concert with my sis, but I was crying all the time just because I understood how much I love 'em💔
My first top concert was in 2013 during the Vessel era, I remember me and my gf balling our eyes out, same thing happend when we also saw them in 2017, now we’re waiting for top to come to vegas again and I’ll probably cry again haha
IN MEMORIAM OF MY SON. I LOVE YOU, DUSTIN.
I'll mourn for a kid, but won't cry for a king
Tyler's voice opens you up and Josh's beat hit right where it hurts.
I never thought I'd live to my current age of 17. My current goal is to make it to 25. The last couple of lines made me think I might just have to push it a few more decades.
You can do it, it's absolutely worth it and rewarding. I'm so proud of you for making it this far, and i'm sure you can go on for a lot more🖤 stay alive.
I never thought I would see 18 and yet here I am. I'm so glad I kept holding on because this year has been the best one of my life. Please hold on because you literally do not know what could happen in a year.
Katie I’d gladly invite you to Eastern Europe, to Moldova or Romania. This trip might help you to rediscover the beauty of the world and of the nature. There are infinite reasons to be alive. Keep your head above the water. Warmest Greetings!
you, you are going to make it. i so freaking believe that you will. I'm almost 24 now and never EVER thought i'd make it past 17. i'm glad i stayed at least this long. i plan to stay much longer. i hope that you decide to, too. please.
When I was around your age, I never thought I could make it to 23. I was convinced I'd end my life by then because I was so miserable and in so much pain, the thought of living much longer with it seemed exhausting and impossible. I'm 32 now. I have two kids who are my everything. I have a husband who is also my best friend. I thank God every single day that I didn't give into that fear. I won't lie and say my life is completely better; I still have plenty of pain. But I now see the other side of it, I've gained perspective, and have reasons to be grateful to be alive. Life is a series of ups and downs. The ups make me so glad to be here still, and during the downs, hold on to those ups until the next one comes. I promise you; it will come.
I wanted to visit this song again to relive some memories I’ve been repressing. I remember listening to this song before my Suicide attempt back in October. I had been put on medication in august. The year before was the worst year of my life and I was still recovering. I just couldn’t do it anymore. That’s what I remember thinking. I wasn’t exactly stable on medication yet and I think that’s what made me go haywire. I took a handful of melatonin and wrote a Suicide note. I luckily survived, but I know some may not have been so lucky. This experience has put Suicide in a new light for me. I no longer see it as a solution, rather something that should never be considered. I never want anyone to make my same mistake. Remember to stay alive. ||-//
thank you for sharing. i hope you’re doing well 💛 stay alive everyone ||-//