Bryan Kohberger Affidavit: Roommate Sees Killer in Idaho
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- Digging deeper into Bryan Kohberber's arrest affidavit. What clues did law enforcement find, what evidence is still missing and what about the roommate who says she saw the killer? University of Idaho students Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin were stabbed to death in their rooms.
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How was Bryan's Sister aloud on the crime scene 🤔
Brian sisters are both mental health providers… I don’t know why she would be on the crime scene unless she was called in to offer support to the survivors at the moment… The fact that her brother is the murderer or is the suspect suspected of murdering is completely irrelevant… Weirdly coincidental, but completely unconnected
I’m very curious as to how Bryan knew. How did he know they’d be home? How was he comfortable that door dash or something like it wouldn’t arrive mid crime? Is there a cyber trail that would prove he knew they were home because he knew about the door dash order. I think there will be more evidence that comes out of his phone.
Let's go pickup his dad.
And throw him in jail.
Ok? & See what he says
To our law enforcement officers. Vin? Will the DA prosecute his father?
What the hell was his dad,
Taken Bryan back to the
Poconos? & running away from, crime scene, & our authorities?
You can't say that DM just thought it was a drunk guy at a party house because then she wouldn't have been frozen stiff with fear when she saw him.
@Real, I had a similar experience in college. Woke one night to find a man I’d never seen before in my shared bathroom. I shared that bathroom with three other women and just assumed he was there to visit one of them. I was scared enough to lock my door, but not scared enough to call police. Dylan probably felt the same. As women we are scared of being vulnerable when strange men are around, but that doesn’t mean we feel they are going to kill us right then and there. The man didn’t threaten me, and the man probably didn’t threaten Dylan, so she overlooked it. In hindsight she probably wishes she had reacted differently.
Xana was awake! She must have been terrified seeing a masked man come into the room 😢 Poor girl ❤
I’m so sick of hearing peoples thoughts on why the surviving roommate didn’t call 911. I used to work in EMS for many years. I was a PAID PROFESSIONAL. On 9-11 I was one of the first medical rescue teams called to the scene .
After those buildings fell and I barley escaped with my life, not knowing if my crew made it…( one didn’t ) , I was basically a zombie for hours. 20 years later, I still have severe PTSD.
My reaction afterwards was I sat on a curb for hours unable to speak. It took years of therapy before I was able to even remember parts of that morning. That’s what shock and trauma does..so to all of you in the peanut gallery saying horrible things…just shut up ….your ignorance is showing.
Proof?
On the flip side, 16 yo Dominique Navarro didn't call 911 when she heard her mother being beaten to death in the middle of the night.
She claimed she didn't call 911 because she sat on the end of her bed frozen in fear for 2 hours, then she ran to a neighbor's house who called 911.
8 months later LE found a witness who was present while Navarro and her 18 yo boyfriend plotted to murder her mother.
They were both convicted of murder.
It is possible to lie about being frozen in fear.
Did you help the victims of 911?
And I'm sick of hearing pathetic excuses as to why no help was called for
Thank you for your service!! I agree. We need to stop judging her. I’m sure we’ll all find out what happened in those 3hrs between her seeing BK and calling 911. We need to pray for her and everyone involved that God will give the strength to continue on and start the healing.
Thank you for saying this. I'm tired of hearing it too. Too many people think that they would do so much better in a situation that they will likely never have to suffer through. I personally passed out while being an assaulted as a child. It can absolutely happen.
I've moved past being shocked DM didn't call 911, to now being shocked based on her room location that she wasn't killed. Her room is the first room he comes to walking in the place, has to pass it to upstairs, has to pass it back down to Xana's and then pass it to leave. Why did the killer avoid the easiest room location?
The killer had to walk pass DM room atleast 3 to 4 times to get to the deceased victims I agree!
Because she wasn't the target.
Possible she has her door locked. And he tried to get in. Or maybe thought it wasn't a bedroom. Plenty of plausable explanations.
He had stalked the house for weeks if not months
He had to know she left there, but thank God that she’ll survived
@@kekeinthehole Exactly what I was going to say. It’s OBVIOUS!! He was targeting the 3rd floor, Kaylee and Maddie. May they all R.I.P. Kaylee✨🕊️ Madison✨🕊️ Xana✨🕊️Ethan✨🕊️.
I don't think it's irrelevant she didn't call the police. If she called the cops roght away maybe she would save someone's life.
I have some young roommates right now and it's appalling how little they can do for themselves. They can't figure out what to do when the toilet overflows or they lose their keys-- I can't begin to imagine how they would handle an actual emergency.
And who's fault is that? Parents All children so unprepared for anything. Parents buy the participation trophies, parents don't tell their kids the truth about the world, they coddle them. Most of these kids all need to go thru military basic training of sorts. They can't make a bed, do laundry or even cook for themselves
The only thing parents teach their children these days is to be good little consumers. It’s a generation of zombies fixated on Range Rovers and cheek fillers and $$$$$.
This made me chuckle. 😂
Ok I can understand that. But I don't understand how come she didn't hear the victims screaming, asking for help, etc. The police wants us to believe that he killed four youngsters who are known for making loud noises, and the only thing that was heard was, - it's ok, I'll help you and , " there is someone here. That's it.
But young kids are experts with phones tho so NO EXCUSES
It was said some of the victims had defensive wounds. Having food brought in and on tictok it seems like that person was not asleep? And shared the room . No yelling or screaming puzzles me. This is such a sad and tragic story.
Right, so Xana likely had defensive wounds and probably wasn't in bed with Ethan who probably didn't have defensive wounds. But we don't know for sure and won't know until trial. Assuming Xana was in bed with Ethan is based on nothing. BK probably surprised Xana who was wide awake and not in the bedroom or having just entered when he attacked her. Ethan was likely unaware until it was too late, whether he was killed before or after Xana.
Here's what I think happened: Killer entered through sliding glass door, directly walking upstairs & quickly killed those two precious girls. Seconds later, he heard the Door Dash delivery and remained quiet upstairs until he heard the front door close. I think he wanted to just walk down those stairs and get out of dodge, but he unexpectedly ran into Xana, killing her while Ethan tried to protect her. He didn't expect Ethan....Xana fought hard..... It all happened so very quickly....he then walked past DM focused on getting out of there as fast as he could and walked out the same sliding door he entered through, and ran to his car while driving off very quickly. That's my take.
That’s exactly what I think happened! The only thing that makes total sense.
Well, aren't you special ...
I agree with that, but not necessarily the order which could have either way imo. He probably didn't know who was in what brm or that Ethan was there, but I think he killed Xana first and Ethan was out of it. Ethan was found dead in the bed, only Xana wasn't (apparently). I think he saw Ethan as more of threat and killed him more for that reason. the target seems to be one or all of the girls. If it turns out he didn't say anything to Dylan as he passed, he probably didn't see her and this would fit with rumors that he had told others online that he had night blindness. Also, he might have wanted to get out of there to avoid anymore boyfriends behind any more doors and the likelihood that any others in the house were awake at that point, plus just being done.
Exactly
Doordash delivery happened several minutes before BK parked his car.
I really don't think he would have left her or the other surviving victim alive, had he known the two were there.
Especially if she saw his face!
@@LB-lt3pz yes and thank God he didn't know she saw him. I think he was in such a fixed mind set to get in, commit these terrible crimes and get out, that he didn't even see her.
thank you to the man that said the roommate not calling the police is irrelevant!!
I don't think the roommate heard Kaylee playing with her dog. I think she heard some loud movement and just assumed it was her playing with the dog (maybe that's when the loud thump and whimper happened the neighbors camera caught?) If you just heard rustling around you wouldn't assume someone was being murdered. Your mind would associate it with a normal noise. I also think the only reason Xana and Ethan died was because Xana actually came out of her room or he saw her at her door when he was coming back down. I also think if Ethan was awake BK would of had a bigger fight on his hands. I have a feeling whatever happened to Xana happened quick, and Ethan was prob passed out, they had all gone out having fun and partying that night, and he didn't wake at all or in enough time to get up and fight.
I also think the only reason the Dylan didn't get killed is because she was prob in the shadows and he had tunnel vision heading out, he prob would have been amped up and extremely focused. I cant even imagine what she is going through right now. She obviously wasn't involved so I wish people would stop giving her a hard time. She may have been drunk (nothing wrong with that, you're suppose to go have fun in college) and when she locked herself in her room while she was waiting she passed out.
This is along the lines of what I was thinking, except I was thinking he killed X/E first and that she probably wasn't in the bedroom, since she had ordered food. I think E was completely out of it too and that's why he was killed in bed, while Xana was on the floor. I"m thinking maybe BK was in the house slightly before the food came and that noise helped to mask his movements. I agree the main point is that Dylan's brain would naturally assign normal activity to the sounds she was hearing, but she may have just felt a little unsettled anyway. Like some people do about bumps in the night, while others don't. An interesting thing I picked up on Reddit (I think) is that in posts BK made a few years ago, he said he had night blindness, which could explain why he walked by Dylan's door. He was exhausted too probably (his pings, etc show he likely hadn''t slept for 24+ hours) and just wanted to get out of there and carry on with disposing of evidence. The mob is going after Dylan because the mob is also a psychopath. People need to stop joining in with it. This is exactly why we have a history of stringing lynchings in this country. Same dynamic.
It never said she heard K.playing with the dog, it says she THOUGHT she heard K.playing with her dog.
Obviously 🤦♂️ way to state the obvious
I wish news outlets would stop reporting on the same things! Nothing new has been discovered 😒 can y’all just wait for the actual trial to continue reporting on this case!? It’s tiring to see all these click baits reporting on the SAMETHING!
you really think this will go to trial? I bet it doesn't.
Press👇of button.
If you have roommates who probably hook up with people you don't know, seeing someone in your house isn't something that will make you call the cops immediately.
Well, in fairness, no one expects mass murder to be going on under their roof.
@@mtaylor7307 that's my point. Noone is expecting that. It could have been just another friend of your roommate's.
@@RickityKricks Throwing in the hook up part seems a little like slinging mud. That's a little insensitive. We don't know these people.
@@mtaylor7307 it only seems like slinging mud if you think someone hooking up is a bad thing. Don't project sex negative ideas onto a comment where it didn't exist.
@@RickityKricks Thanks for the clarification. Perceptions for the living and dead traditionally run differently. For the living too. Consider the people trashing the roommate that saw the killer leave and closed her door in shock. Why would anyone do that either?
When I was in my early twenties I had separated from my husband and lived in a house with two small children. One night I fell asleep on the sofa. Suddenly, I was awoken with an unknown man's hand over my mouth saying, "Don't scream I have a knife!" He next pulled me off the sofa and began choking me from behind. I fought like crazy. Suddenly my young daughter woke crying, "Mommy!" He stopped, smashing my face into the floor. I saw him flee, jumping out my dinning room window head first. He had cut the screen. I didn't call the police until hours afterward. My children were young, I didn't want to awaken them. I didn't call until after I had taken them to daycare and I had gone to work. At the time the police that came to speak with me didn't really believe me, because I waited so long to call. The point I'm trying to make is, you have no idea what Dylan's reasons were. They might not make sense to you.....but you weren't there!
Wow, I’m so sorry that’s so traumatic , I just also posted about my experience when the towers fell on 9-11. I know this isn’t go to be a NON ISSUE . They will have every expert collaborate what you and I unfortunately know from first hand experience.
I can’t imagine what you went through, it’s terrifying. The brain has its own way to prioritise and protect us so the decisions aren’t always logical. I maintain that Dylan’s institution probably told her “danger!” but after closing the door she tried to rationalise it until she finally fell asleep. It’s a shared house of university students and noises like the ones she described hearing aren’t that outlandish.
Ps..don’t pay any mind to the idiots making comments about “ holes” in your story.
@@Nikki30288 uh oh, did you feel the need to declare yourself smart this morning, while offering no evidence? I’m sorry kiddo, who hurt you?
Wow! Next time seek help immediately otherwise you putting yourself and others in danger.
If Dillon didn't know anything bad had happened to her roommates, then why was she frozen in fear?
Why didn't she even text any of them to see if they knew that random guy she saw?
Why didnt she ask Xana if she was ok?
None of it makes sense unless she passed out from fear, and that's what the other roommate called 911 about, but why call friends over first? It still doesn't add up.
Need to hear from Dillon and the other one
Great coverage as always thanks
I feel so bad for the DM girl. I really think that some of her brain probably was in fear and the other half, probably thought it was nothing. THe house was a well known party place with strangers in and out and a lot of people still wear masks. She probably did not realize until after the fact that the guy she saw was the killer. People need to leave her alone. She will be haunted by this the rest of her life, and from what they said, the 4 students would have died immediately or within minutes and had she called 911 it would not have saved their lives. You have to remember the crying she heard could have just been, in her mind, Eathen and the other girl talking. It is just so heartbreaking the whole thing
Feel bad for Dylan?
Are you stu pid?
She may not have known that murders took place until after she woke up about 11 am.
@@leonfloyd2236 doesn’t matter whether she knew the murders happened why didn’t she call her roommate’s upstairs call text FaceTime? No she waited hours and then called other friends over to the house and that’s when 911 was called. Seems off don’t ya think but of course questioning that is wrong and blasphemous right?!!🥴🙃😒
@@antoniogrant200 I think all of us have questions about that. They haven’t come out and said much about it. I’m just saying fear can cause us to react strangely sometimes. She might have been frozen with fear or maybe at the time she didn’t think this could be a murderer. Our minds are so complex. But I don’t think this 19yr old just didn’t care and went to bed.
@@leonfloyd2236 exactly. People are spending more time being angry at this 19yr old than the actual murderer. Police interviewed her for 9 hrs is what they said. The things she saw and heard she might not have put it together until after she found them murdered😞
She didn't know anyone had been killed! For all she knew, that creepy guy could have been a door dash driver , or someone else. But she got frightened and lock the door and went to bed.
how romantic
@@CowneloAlvaroid you seem to know it all
She was able to make out his build, weight and bushy eyebrows. The knife sheath was left at the scene, on one of the beds. So he obviously must have walked out with that knife. The knife was heavy and huge. Did she not see the knife?? In addition, if he cleaned the knife off and left, he would've remembered the sheath that went with it. If he did not clean it, that knife would've been covered in blood and Dylan would've seen it. The type of knife, the sheath being left and Dylan's account are the most troubling and confusing aspects of this case.
Miss Dylan did not see the knife in BCK's hand.
End of story.
No conspiracy theories needed.
I bet he disposed of the bloody knife, bloody clothing, bloody gloves, bloody van sneakers etc… somewhere during the 3 hour period that his cell was off around Johnson, ID. It must be buried in that rural area somewhere. It’s a large area to cover. The knife is metal they can use hand held metal detectors on ground that looks to be disturbed. Also can satellite technology help. Satellites have been used in other criminal investigations before. If one cases warrants the use of it again it’s this case for sure. He may have also disposed of it immediately after the murders on his ride home. His phone was turned off for two hours after the murders. That most likely is when he was disposing of all the incriminating evidence. I would think any murderer would want to get rid of all the bloody incriminating evidence asap.
Thought and prayers for the families and surviving roommates 🙏😔
And Bryan
Love you - Vinnie & Chanley! Great coverage.
I think Dylan might have been intoxicated and thus doubted her own instincts, should she have felt some thing uncomfortable in her gut.
Whatever the reason, she is not the murderer, and it’s going to be hard enough for her to adjust her new life now. Let’s not pile more on her that she needs to cope with.
I think she was tripping which would have been horrifying
Yeah but she called friends over first. Give me a break geez!!
My guess is BK was upstairs with KG and MM doing what he did. At that time is when door dash arrived and XK said " There's someone here " talking about the order and maybe that's when BK heard her and thought he needed to handle her and her boyfriend as well. Going to be interesting to see how this all unfolds at trial. RIP to the 4 :( so heart breaking
Thats plausible for sure
That makes alot of sense
No it can't have happened that way. He was still parking the car when the door dash arrived.
@@CasuallySleuthing Xana could have still been referring to the door dash when she said someone was here.
If he talks
I don't think he saw her because he was looking and headed toward the door
Problem is if she was in fear Frozen in fear, then he had to be covered in blood and if she thought he was just some party guy she wouldn't have been in fear
right... can't have it both ways, frozen in fear; or lack of urgency because no need for help.
Frozen in fear + lack of urgency + no need for help + frozen in fear doesn't really make sense.
She never said she was frozen with fear. She said she was in a frozen shock phase. Could simply be from the stranger in her house with a mask walking toward her that caused it.
@COUR TV Why haven't we heard from the roommate on the 1st floor, was there no other roommate on the first floor?
DM could have passed out and woke up later trying to put together if it's safe to come out. She likely saw he had blood on him too.Adrenalin does all kinds of things to your body physically. I had 2 horrific things happen in my life, I had a miscarriage at 5 months where the baby was tiny but looked like a baby and the hospital slid it off the table into a trash can, I went into a coma for 2 days, the other my son was hit by a car and seeing how hurt he was, I passed out and came to about 1/2 hour later with medics working on me. Don't judge her, no one knows what trauma does to your body, it shuts down to protect you!
Um did you call your friends over first?
Did you open the door 3 times but yet say you were frozen with fear?
I honestly think it's a little weird that she kept opening her door when she was hearing certain phrases and certain things but never walked out there. I just feel like most people don't think something horrific like that is going on so they're Natural Instinct would maybe be to go check it out thinking that it's nothing crazy like that or if you don't I would think maybe after the first time hearing something you wouldn't go open the door again after that, just thinking nothing of it. I'm not sure if that makes sense but I feel like she had to have an idea that something was wrong if she kept opening the door to hear what was going on but never went out there. Why she didn't call 911 is a little weird to me too if she did have access to a phone. I would think even in shock or in fear the Instinct would still be to get help
It’s not to say she was in on it like the defense lawyer said. It’s questioning if she saw what she claims. It was a party house so she was used to random people. Why freeze if she didn’t suspect a problem. The defense wants to create doubt. So I see their line of thinking is ‘he saw you, you saw him, why didn’t you call if you felt threatened after you came to your senses’. Why call your friends instead of LE and allow your friends to enter the home’, were you intoxicated or under the influence’ or dreaming. This is a crazy case but I wouldn’t be surprised with some unexpected declaration. 🤨
Ohh thank God logical thinking people with reasoning skills in this comment thread!!!
Exactly ...
I think this Dylan person was up to no good. Not calling the po po until noon the next day? Wad up with that?
I'm not so much wondering about 911, as she didn't want to create panic but in her words, she was frozen with fear and locked her door. Why? Did she look out the window after this and get a better look of him? Tbh I wouldn't call 911 but I WOULD check on my friends especially after hearing the crying. So something is off, not that she was involved but there is more to this.
@Faffinoodle Something is definitely off.
Dylan was no dim wit. She might have been 😱, but no way and no how, no matter how you slice it, (no pun intended), could you not call the po po until noon the next day. Give me a break ....!!!
This individual is NOT going to be credible in court.
Thank you for covering this case i watch every case you cover I am forever grateful to you again and again Thank You
Is it likely he came with the intent of harming just one of the girls on the third floor (possibly Kaylee since she might have had a stalker) but then found Maddie with Kaylee resulting in a second victim… and then ran into Xana who we know was awake and resulted in murders of Xana and Ethan.
Yep there may have been a sexual assault if things went according to plan.
The fact that he returned to the scene even before the police was called makes me think, did he know the police was not there yet? Did he know DM hadn't said anything yet? It would be so risky to lurk in the area with many police officers searching the entire town.
In every report on the Affidavit, it’s assumed that Kaylee saying “There’s someone here” at 4am is referring to Bryan. Door dash delivered to Xana at 4:00 too, so I think it’s also possible her pooch alerted to that and her statement could be as innocuous as the “someone” was the delivery guy. Tightest timeline ever!
Kudos to the reporter!
I had no idea they did 4AM DoodDash deliveries in Idaho! I would expect that in metro areas like NYC, LA, MIA, etc.
It's a college campus and town so I imagine it's good business
The fact that the roommate had to call friends over the next morning, seems to indicate that she did not know what to do on her own. She wasn’t sure if there’s another perpetrator in the house. She didn’t benefit from the picture that we have now discussing the situation. She was in it! She froze. She locked her self in her room. She might’ve tried to call friends who never picked up. She probably didn’t know what to do. She definitely doesn’t not have the insight that we have now. She is a key witness in this. Her well-being is paramount at this point so online bullying and media speculation does not help her or this case at all.
Why wouldn't she call 911 the morning of if that were the case ?
She didn't call 911 asap! 🤡🤡
This 11am call is way weird to me ….
What if some of the roomates were still alive and could of made it if they had medical help? I don't know how she could wait 8hrs.
There should be an immediate ban on discussing DM.
Why would he calmly walk out the door in front of her when his adrenalin must have been pumping out of control and he was in a murderous rage? I also would like to know his motivation to target that group of people. I think he did it at this point, what connects him to this group of people tho?
What are the chances he was familiar with the house lay out? Was he in there before?
I found the entire layout of the house interior in 3D on a realtor's site. He probably found the same when he was stalking them.
@@novelist99 scary to think they've were being watched for 12 weeks or however long they they said his phone pinged there.
Dylan doesn’t make sense. Even if she was afraid, even though she didn’t call 911. We are talking about a young adult. She would have at the very least have texted her roommate.
If DM had been male, I wonder if they'd view her actions differently, or suspect her of being in on it. And they "hope" the jury doesn't suspect her -- why do they hope this?
He definitely isn’t as smart as he wants everyone to think he is.
Seriously, DUDE! Why are you making a mountain out of a molehill? DM NOT calling the police is a *"BIG HAIRY BUTT NOTHING 🍔!"* GAWD! 🙄
Like the guy on your program said & that's exactly what I've always thought. This is several young colllege students sharing a huge house. Having people come & go at all hours of the day & night is probably the standard quo in the home. I am sure that each roommate doesn't report every visitors coming & goings to one another. Its young college students for christsakes. I am sure there was a lot of late night hookups going on there. So, to see a guy wearing a mask (yes, some people still are wearing masks bc of covid) leaving a shared roommates house in the middle of the night. Where there was no screaming, yelling &/or frantically calling out in the ether for help! Why would this young woman immediately freak out & hit the panic button & call 911? Yes, She froze when She saw the guy, a stranger to Her in the house. But, She really had no reason to jump to a conclusion of anything criminal going on . Its not like She said She saw the guy leaving with a TV &/or stereo to surmise He was a robber, let alone a guy who just murdered 4 ppl. Persons who are questioning & making a big deal of this, like you are, are nothing more than zealots who either forgot what it was like to be young, had roommates or just plain ole nosey *"Gladys Kravitz"* who calling the 🚔 over every lil infraction! Can you say President of an HOA! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dylan's involuntary "frozen shock phase" certainly prevented her from being able to take action however it did NOT change any of the facts in this case nor the exorbitant amount of evidence against the suspect. I believe the unfair criticism on social media ultimately comes from a place of frustration, intolerance and longing for a different outcome.
It's not criticism against this poor girl, it's just curious she saw all this, froze in shock and 8 hours later ended up passed out in the yard.... I think she was on drugs but this isn't criticism. No matter what she was doing nobody deserves to be put in this position poor girl.
DM felt something was wrong, that why she opened her door 3x. She should have called the police because that person looked suspicious to her or go check on your roommates because you heard someone crying. At least 1 person could've been saved
Why do people keep assuming that DM knew Brian had murdered anyone? The affidavit only states that she saw him walking past. It doesn't say she said she saw a knife or blood or bodies. And people keep forgetting that it has come out that their house was known as a party house and often filled with strangers. She only states she was creeped out and locked the door. She probably had no idea what had just happened, and had no reason to call 911. She didn't hear screaming, she didn't hear calls for help, she didn't hear anyone say "I'm being stabbed! Help!" She heard some noises that she thought were familiar and similar to other experiences she had while living in that house with those roommates, and therefore was not alarmed. There was no reason, from her perspective at that moment in time, to call 911. Unfortunately, she has probably been beating herself up since that night, and now she's probably being virtually beaten up by the masses who are judging her for inaction when we only NOW have the advantage of knowing what was happening at that moment.
Yeah I think this is what happened and now she has the whole internet jumping to conclusions. No one said she saw blood on him or any of the details people are claiming
@@danidiaz2377 THANK YOU!! I've been searching for anyone to say what I've said, and I haven't heard any of the true crime channel peeps say anything like it. Many have said "Now, none of us know what we would have done in that situation...fight, flight, or freeze...etc, etc" but nobody has considered the missing information, which is that she never said she saw him kill anyone. She said she SAW him and got creeped out and locked her door. For all she knew, he could have been one of the other girls' dates or something.
These kids were just all very young. Students,studying. Playing, getting drunk, having fun,laughing. Their minds are not like full adults yet. At 20 we don’t think like we do at 30. They were drunk that night. Hazy. Not clear thinking. In her drunk haze, she might not have reacted ,like an adult that was thinking straight.
A death sentence will be to easy for him. He must get a life sentence for each, plus the rest. And he must serve each one after the other. He must suffer. This is a sad sad story, 6 students have gone through such terrible things. What did he think? To through away his life like this. And the parents foregive him. But he don't even say a word. This kind of killers always think they can fight back, they always think they are clever. The poor students.😪Can't stop thinking about their parents and families. Even his family. This is so so bad.😪😪
An ‘Eye for an eye’ sentence would be ideal…it’s likely the only sentence he’d actually fear.
Maybe if he knew this was an option he would’ve thought twice about becoming an evil madman.
He doesn’t deserve to exist anymore. Unfortunately today’s society has made sentences far too light..we’ve lost ability to actually punish and therefore any effective deterrents.
There’s too many people with an absurd amount of empathy for these evil criminals.
If ‘eye for an eye’ sentence is too ‘uncivilized’ for us…
Then I hope they develop a method to give him the electric chair..revive him and repeat for each victim.
I agree. The amenities are much better on death row. Sometimes inmates in genpop have killed just to get transferred. I don't want him watching himself forever being analyzed on tv in his private cell for the next 30 years or the kids' parents going to parole hearings for the rest of their lives.
he's going to be so excited to finally have community. he'll love prison.
He's smart he wants to be receiving free room and board while us the tax payers pay for his life sentence
If I had a murderer or some unknown person in disguise in my home, my survival instinct in my brain would shout "HIDE AND BE QUIET!! DON'T BE SEEN, DON'T BE HEARD!!!!!" It would not be"call 911" until I was sure that unknown person was gone!
Nobody has the guts to say the truth!
Someone online said there was a neon light on the wall that would have been facing Brian when he walked by Dylan’s room. That would explain why she saw him and he didn’t see her.
That's an excellent point. The sign, ironically enough, says "Good Vibes..."
Poor Dylan. The freeze response. Can only imagine, backing into her room, locking the door and hoping he doesn’t come through it. Wondering if he is still in the house. Hoping to go unnoticed. Now all this scrutiny. My heart goes out to her. Bless her.❤
That's called hiding. Lots of mammals besides humans do that to avoid predators.
Thats true but then again all of that worry would have been resolved with one 911 call and that is if she had her phone with her...
My only question is why didn’t she call 911 why did she wait so long before calling 🥲
@@Red-ct6wx maybe she waited until it was light outside and she heard her neighbors walking around outside? She wanted to be sure no one was still on the house and that there would be people outside to help her.
@@Red-ct6wx she called her friend to come over. if u feared a killer was in the house, how does someone call their friend 8 hours later rather than 911. Im guessing there were substances present that she panicked about. Just a guess.
The 911 call stated there was an unconscious person...maybe that unconscious person was Dylan...
NewsNation reported that she did: She passed out and was hyperventilating after seeing what happen in the morning.
She was in shock and fear, at some level I think she hoped she was just having a nightmare....
Yes, or she could have thought that once it was quiet, all was ok.
It's a CHEAP SHOT, VERY CHEAP SHOT, Vinnie Politan to keep drilling down on that poor, traumatized young victim. So unprofessional of you.
Her claiming she thought she was dreaming IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT IN COURT.
The defense is going to absolutely grill witnesses on 1. Inconsistencies in testimony/hypocrisy and 2. Failure to render due aid with a potential 3rd Q. of Aiding and abetting.
The prosecution better hope they have more DNA than just that sheath. The DNA on that sheath comes back to his father and is considered latent (touch) DNA, which is often dismissed as evidence in court due to its inaccuracy. You’d be surprised how many cases I’ve been involved in that have turned around based on technicalities like that. The phone pings in/around the home also are not enough, nor is the car. He could have been picking someone up. Dropping someone up. Seeing someone. This case could go either way and both sides are going to have a very hard time with this trial.
Again, the defense is going to ask about 1. Inconsistencies in testimony/hypocrisy and 2. Failure to render due aid with a potential 3rd Q. of Aiding and abetting.
Other questions that will be asked:
I remember Bryan’s downstairs neighbor reporting that he’d seen Bryan come home with a girl a couple times and could hear them talking from his apartment. Who was that? He seemed to know his way through the house so fluidly - knew exactly which bedrooms to hit. How?
The “frozen shock phase” is a survival response and the brain wouldn’t have even thought to lock the door in that state. That’s not how the freeze response works.
He just so happened to ignore *that* bedroom (the closest one to the stairway and the sliding door) THREE TIMES and went into the far one? How were his dark eyebrows seen so well in the dark? How was his physical build when he was wearing all black seen in the dark? No footsteps were heard going up or coming down the HARDWOOD stairs right next to *that* bedroom?
One more time: the defense WILL grill on 1. Inconsistencies in her testimony/hypocrisy and 2. Failure to render due aid with a potential 3rd Q. of Aiding and abetting.
That’s the REALITY of this. It is NOT victim-blaming to question what does NOT MAKE SENSE. “Dreaming” isn’t going to cut it in court.
Furthermore, the family who keeps going to the media really need to cut it out and stop while they’re ahead. They’ve already hurt the prosecution calling the police “inadequate” and numerous other atrocities. I wouldn’t put it past them to call out the mother/sister for all the makeup either. I’ve seen it happen before. They need to be careful.
Yes especially in a student house with lots of activity - it's also highly unlikely that she imagined her roommates were being stabbed to death, particularly in a small window of time (20 mins), especially after one of them answered the door to a doordash just before.
I think she plugged her phone in one of the outer rooms to charge and she didn’t have it and sure as heck wasn’t going out there
I believe Kohberger had inside help from the surviving roommates? Why was DM in shock phase when she seen the Suspect but did nothing? She didn't think anything was wrong enough to go back to sleep for nearly 8hrs what was the shock? She didn't call or text her roommates to see if they were ok? Then calls her friends when she wakes up to come over? Why, if she was ok to sleep all night why did she need friends to come help check the house? The bodies lay in the home for nearly 8 hours, I'm sure the smell of the home was not Normal at that point. Then DM calls police and describes an UNCONSCIOUS PERSON? Anyone knows the difference between unconscious and dead for 8 hours... Things aren't adding up, I hope ALL suspects get their day in court!!
Eternal Angels, gone but never forgotten Maddie, Kaylee, Xana, & Ethan.
Rest In Peace 🕊️
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Roommate not calling earlier was destiny in catching the killer in the area once again!
Ok, however, the noises DM heard were her friends literally fighting for their lives, their breath, very different than party noises. I get she was traumatized but I think we can wonder why 911 wasnt called before 11am as it became quiet and light out. And where in the world is Bethany and what is her story??
Many know it alls here. She could not imagine what really had happen, who would?
I totally agree with Cynthia. 11 am.before trying to help her Friends???
@@J-ellO she likely waited until she heard neighbors outside that would make her feel safe enough to leave her room.
@@uubish Naw, no way
@@johnnyalexander5219 Most are never far from their phones..I would imagine that if I heard bloody murder sounds that I would lock my door and punch in 911 even from my closet given that I saw the man leave and could describe him.
Everyone that is saying the room mate did something wrong. Don’t blame this evil act on her!! She did the right thing. She was not sure that guy was not going to come right back in. She locked her door. If he had seen her I have no doubt she would be dead.
I'm glad she's alive.
Yo Vinnie. You’re like Spring air. It’s a pleasure to hear your voice (easy on the ears) and sensitive but realistic assessment of DM as a state’s witness.
Thinking of the survivors 💙💙 sending lots of love and my prayers of strength as well as for the families & loved ones 🦋🦋🦋🦋
It is very scary to send your kids away for college..
I guess when you didn’t teach them any real world skills then yes that would be the case. 🙄
The entire world is a scary place. Colleges are still safer than driving around in a car.
@@jswan312 Bingo.
On page 4 of the affidavit (I think) it says “D.M. Stated she ORIGINALLY went to sleep in her bedroom on the southeast side of the second floor.” Next sentence says, “D.M. Stated she was awoken at approximately 4am….” It is very interesting the chose of words for that first sentence, where they say D.M stated she ORIGINALLY went to sleep in the room mentioned…. Perhaps after seeing the killer she hid in her closet in her room with her bedroom door locked (maybe he even tried to get in after she shut the door… we don’t know) and she hid in her closet for hours terrified to come out…. Perhaps she did eventually come out and saw Xana and Ethan and freaked out again and hid in a different place…both times she didn’t have her phone on her and she was too scared to come out of hiding to find it…this would account for the wording of “originally” went to sleep in her room….It would make sense if they said she originally went to sleep at a certain time but then was awoken …. But they specifically say she originally went to sleep in a certain location…. Which means there must of been another location that wasn’t the original…at least that’s how I read it…Also, if she believes the killer to still be in the house- she may have been scared to make a phone call to 911 in case the killer was still in the house and heard her…. I know I would hide wherever for however long and try to keep quiet if I witnessed what she probably did….I really hope she can get past this one day and I hope there aren’t cruel people out there making it worst for her … 24:42
Very excellent point & line of thinking. I hadn’t thought about that but I do believe the roommates are NOT INVOLVED and are VICTIMS themselves.
Yeah, her not having a phone while hiding makes sense imo. Also nowhere did they say where she went to sleep, people assume she literally went in her bed, chilled and slept like normal or something
Yah her phone could have been plugged in the outlet in the living area. It might have been dead because she forgot to charge it. She might have lost it earlier that night. Maybe she dropped it and broke it and had planned on replacing it in the morning. I’m sure there is an explanation why things played out the way they did and eventually it will be known.
@J Squirrel I don't understand that excuses can be made for DM but not for Kohberger...he has already been found guilty by most. Interesting enough the serial killer The hunter went free for most of his life and someone did 20 years jail time innocently. I wish everyone would presume innocence until found guilty....and even then in my mind there is doubt unless it has hard evidence because of so many people innocently jailed and even killed on death row. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.
I agree with you, I really truly believe she was terrified and hiding and if she phoned the police, her survival instinct told her he would find her by hearing the phone call. She probably just hid and stayed quiet. Think about it, if a murderer hears you calling cops, they will likely kill you. I think her survival instinct kicked in. Many survivor's don't call cops.
He was exhausted that's why he walked past her.
How does someone kill 4 young healthy adults and noone hear anything? Each person killed by a knife, not often a quick or easy way to die, there would be chaos and screaming and a fight for their lives! How did the people who were not harmed yet or not at all not hear this brutal murder?
I'm wondering the same thing,none of them had time to scream for help?
@@mrsTraveller64 I am perplexed by this and has not come across any other inquiries about this. Everyone was sleeping? and he just went from person to person and stabbed them multiple times with not a sound? I read that their were defensive wounds found on the victims hands and one girl found on the floor so their had to be a feral like fight for their lives!
Nevermind the people that were getting stabbed, they often can’t make a loud sound or scream, especially if they’re stabbed in the chest - but the killer had to have been making crazy sounds. Stabbing people multiple times takes a lot of energy and effort, he had to have been making grunts at the very least
@@spiritfly7111 that makes me wonder too, if one person is beeing stabbed and fights back,doesn't the other one wake up and scream? But apparently they didn't, was he too fast jumping from victim to victim, or did he first do something to them like slashing their throuths one by one so they couldn't scream,and then stabb them one by one? Was Dylan alone in her room, did she wake up the other girl, they were two survivors right?
@@kpeezyforsheezy Just even the movement or aggression of the assault. Soo awful. But I don’t hear these questions being discussed. Even if they were wasted drunk. How was he able to do this?!
Dylan not calling is actually understandable if you stop to think from her perspective.
In Dylan’s mind she was only 1 of 6 roommates…it’s highly likely she simply thought if there was an issue someone else would’ve spoke up, done something.
The farthest thing from her mind was that that person just killed 4 out of 6…leaving her and one more alone.
She may have thought intruder was just some weird frat guy doing some strange prank or a weird guy the girls brought him from the bar? Wearing all black I doubt there was any blood showing..and it’s not like she says she heard screams of terror. She heard whimpering and crying and followed by someone say “I’ll help you”.
I believe the next morning upon seeing bodies..Dylan ran outside and passed out hyperventilating just before 911 operator couldn’t hear details…neighbor or friend took over the call but as survivors were in such shock..didn’t know about bodies yet…therefore the call was for Dylan and/or Funk being unconscious.
I keep saying the exact same thing! From her perspective the last person this guy would ever be and her mind would be a murder When sharing a home with sex college kit's who party constantly have random people over. My friend being drunk with her boyfriend and friends crying wouldn't be something completely out of the ordinary either. If I didn't know the people walking around outside of my bedroomI would have felt uncomfortable and afraid I would have blocked myself in my room till the next day too. Everyone of those girls had their own bedroom with the keypad lock and the rest of the house was pretty much common area. If it were a family home and she didn't call the police that would be odd but this is more like an off campus dormitory for college kids. On top of that they are only giving us the bare minimum in that affidavit and there is so much information we have not gotten yet. When This all 1st happened everybody was criticizing the police departmand saying everything doesn't makextends but when the affidavid came out it cleared up a lot of computer so it's going to be the same with future information that we do not have yet. We are only getting a few small clips of what happened.
@@ladysquirrel9277 Exactly right.
I think there’s a lot of people who never actually lived in a party house..and have issues comprehending.
Ive been thinking the same thing! There was no mention of screams..and she didnt know until she got up. I cant believe that nobody else has mentioned that.
Hey man, I have been in situations where I have felt something weird happening in my neighborhood and I kept peeping out the window but no way in hell was I going out there to investigate. Her intuition was probably screaming 'danger!' and there was no way she was going to leave her room, but she kept anxiously peeking out hoping nothing was happening whenever she heard something odd. Anyone with anxiety will avoid that which they fear. So, it is likely that she was terribly anxious the next morning and didn't want to go outside her door because she was afraid of what she would see. And, she was likely terrified that the person would come back. She probably debated calling the police, as the dispatcher would likely have asked her why she thought something happened, and then would ask her to go look, and she didn't want to. So, she avoided the whole situation by hiding in her room until someone came over.
Yea she was frozen stiff with fear but called her friends instead of 911. She was so frozen in fear she opened the door 3 times but couldn't move her finger 3 times to punch 911 number. Gimme a break!
@@pamelaremme38 I am guessing someone, at some point, will honor that request.
EASY FIX: use 1 finger and push 911 OR....text your friends to see if they are ok or if there is anything to be concerned about! No one said to go approach him. It is cowards like yourself that shut the door on people that need medical attention IMMEDIATELY but you COWER. She could have saved some lives! Have you every watched I Survived series? Might I suggest you watch it? Many people with 1, 2 and 3 bullets to the head and multiple stab wounds and neck slashed and STILL LIVE to tell their story. Many haves slit throats and are also BURNED but survive. I Survived is on every Sat and you can marathon watch on TV on Court TV channel.
Bullsh**. She acted cowardly and didn't care about what happened to her roommates. If she cared, she would have texted them.
@@catherinelw9365 Describe something heroic you have done commensurate to the situation in question.
Yes you have one quiet girl who has her room alone with a lock on it. She's the wise one and may not be partying like all these others, this lifestyle is ridiculous. When I went to college it was all girls in the dorm and you had to sign in if you were coming in late. I think we signed in and out for the night if it was in the evening. And and they'd be looking for you if you didn't sign in at the curfew time which was set I think weekdays were 10 p.m. and weekends were maybe 12:00 or 1:00. This way they are living is insanity. There's always going to be one girl you know , that is more conservative is in a room by herself and doesn't live show openly. It's bound to run into trouble one way or another.
Guy in the blue shirt, she said she froze so apparently she knew he wasn't supposed to be there .
First of all, if DM would have called 911 the second she saw the intruder, it would not have changed the outcome since he was on his way out of the house having already stabbed the 4 students and by that time they were dead I think. While we have no way of knowing that for sure, I would bet he made sure of that before he left. The police had slim to no chance of catching him leaving the scene unless there happened to be a patrolman in the area at that particular time, which is unlikely. Also, I think it's important to remember that this young girl had no way of knowing what had occurred and was likely in self preservation mode just because she had seen a stranger in the house. Nothing she could have done at that point could have saved the lives of her roommates and blaming her for what she may or may not have done is not only unwarranted and cruel, but it will never bring them back.
Very good diagram simple to follow thanks Chanley. 😅
I'm just wondering if the person who ordered door dash has to be the one to receive it ?
No they don’t. As long as they know the person’s name and most of the time they don’t even ask for that. They’ll say my name to me and I’ll say yes. Technically I could take anybody’s food or they could take mine. There’s also options for them to just leave it at the front door so there’s no contact at all
I hope DM is getting some serious therapy at this moment...she's been through a hectic traumatic event. I would've locked myself up and sit frozen for hours!!! She was probably waiting for him to come break through her door. Poor child 😢🙏🏻❤️
I hope she doesn't, I hope she is NOT made to relive that and finds pleasantness. from everyone. suffocate bryan with what he has done
If you already know that you’d lock yourself up and hide, seek help know. Someday someone’s life may depend on you not freezing up.
How is she in shock if she didn't yet know about the murders? It was reported that random people in the party house at all hours was normal.
Exactly! And if she did get scared, why didnt she text or even go knock on xanas door?!! She was literally across the hall.... i find it hard to believe stabbing people is a silent murder.... especially with xana and ethan since they were up!!!
You the man! I prefer a paper map so I can see the BIG picture! Thanks, Benny!
Actually, Vinnie, we DO "have an idea." She said she went into a "frozen phase." She froze. Pure and simple, natural self-defense. Can you imagine the fear in that poor girl's mind as she probably sensed a huge danger. We will learn what happened after she saw the killer later. But we must never, ever "blame" her for anything that happened that night.
there are serious questions that demand answers. such as: why did it take several hours (like 7 of them) to call the police? thats deeply suspicious.
Ehh that depends on what her cellphone activity looked like after 4am. If it was non existent or only her texting her roommates to see if they were okay then you are 1,000 correct. If it shows any type of social media activity with no activity of her texting the roommates.. Then nah she gets all the smoke too.
Fear is very powerful. I believe she was in shock. Possibly the killer did not see her in his rush to leave the scene his adrenaline was probably pumping so fast he just wanted to get out of there as fast as he could. She is a very powerful witness. Prayers for the families of these victims.
Obviously🤦♂️affidavit said she was frozen in shock However Dylan then UNFROZE herself, then went back in her room and then locked her door.
So you really think she froze herself up again for 8 hours?🤦♂️🤦♂️ Have common sense plz
@@CowneloAlvaroid you have some common sense. If you heard people being murdered and knew the doors and windows were likely unlocked, would you walk out there to investigate? And make yourself an obvious target? Especially if you were intoxicated and knew you were not in a state to fight back? Ask yourself that. And be honest. Quit blaming the victims.
@@CowneloAlvaroid Some people can be frozen for days.
Years ago my husband was out of town and I was awoken by our dogs barking outside. Afer looking out the window in our LR I saw a man crouched on the front porch by a large bush we had. I then looked again and he had moved but I could hear the dogs outside in the back continue to bark. so I knew he was going to the backyard. I turned on a large spot light in the backyard and after about 30 min I did not see him again and the dogs stopped barking. I have no idea to this day why I did not call the police, but I layed awake for hours in fear. So I can honestly say sometimes in fear maybe you don't react normally. I do not judge that girl as I feel she had a lot of fear that some intruder was in the house in the dark and possibly he did not see her.
@@CowneloAlvaroid lmfaooo thank you ughh someone with common sense!!
He had no idea what room or victim he left the sheath case in.he went back to retrieve it.
This guy is probably going to say that he doesn't remember anything
Well he probably won't take the stand so he doesn't need to say anything.
But you're right he may have told that to his appointed lawyer.
Good point.
Thank you.
@@hkschubert9938 I sure wouldn't doubt it
I think the reason he just walked by her was because his mind was racing maybe didnt even notice her as he was in the get out of there frame of mind..
I'm also thinking the reason why the roommate didn't call the police right away is because there were probably people that went in and out of the house here and there maybe she was scared and locked herself in her room until it was she thought it was safe to come out I don't know but one thing I do know is that guy looks guilty as hell and the look on his face reminds me of the same look that I've seen on serial killers faces before like Ted Bundy their eyes there's something about the eyes and it's so obvious that he's guilty I don't know how he can try to get out of it..but if found guilty..like one of the parents said ..he doesnt deserve life in prison
He needs to just be taken off this earth..
He has visual snow which makes it hard to see in the dark.
At that point Dylan didnt know there was a crime, after hearing crying she heard its ok im going to help you. Kaylee playing with dog, then man in black, she may have been afraid to call 911 that she would be heard on the phone. So she may have been frozen and stayed locked in her room til other room mate woke up.
Ok if she thought there was no crime, then why would she freeze up shock phase , if she thought the uni student was just another kid walking around in the house . If we agree she didnt see anything all the blood, no screaming etc. She wouldn't have been that shocked not to call the police .
So at this point from her information, she heard crying, thumps, dog barking, crying again and then saw BK was so shocking that he was robbing the place and still should of called police , because she saw nothing horriffice at that point, she would only have known that her friends would have been hurt by him from all the noise and screaming and barking that took place wether it was a robbery, a beat up etc. She still could have called police. This is why her story does not make sense
why was she "frozen in fear" if she didn't think there was a crime?
@@JK-jj9ko EXACTLY. That's EXACTLY why it doesn't make sense.
It is relevant the waiting period between when the crime happened and the police were called because one or more of the kids could’ve still been saved
She may or may not have heard crying. The remark, "there's someone here," was probably in response to the food delivery. Even if she did hear crying, she probably mistook it for a fight between her roommate, and her roommate's boyfriend, Ethan.
As for seeing someone she didn't recognize in the hallway; Is that so unusual for a known party house, with people in and out of the place all the time? All she had to do was open her door a crack to see the killer walking by. After brutally stabbing four people to death, that freak might not have even noticed someone watching him from a barely opened door.
The talking heads seem to think the mask is a big deal, but it sounds to me like the surgical mask thousands are wearing in the age of Covid. PhD boy, so afraid of eating out of pans that once cooked meat, was probably equally terrified of catching Covid from his victims.
Finally, as for not calling the police.... Mistaking everything she heard for completely different situations, WHY would she feel compelled to call the cops??? It's not as if she admitted to hearing death screams, but chose to ignore them. The people passing all these judgements on her now, are the same types who pointed their fingers at everyone EXCEPT the actual killer! Only a few of us suspected a stranger from the start and said so. The people so quick to judge her now, need to do something they apparently have a hard time doing. They need to----STFU!!!!!
SHE SAID she was frozen in fear. If nothing she observed was scary and all was explainable, why was she frozen & afraid? Was she fearful or was she not. How is she so fearful she's frozen but also doesn't think she should get help? For 8 hours. Trauma or not, it doesn't make sense.
@@julzwonders How much of that fear was induced through a retrospective review of the events? That has to be taken into account. Memory is a tricky thing. Unfortunately it's affected by the present, not just the past. I think the important factor here is the police reaction. They haven't cast shade on her. Until the facts come out in court, I think we all need to hold back on making any rash judgements. Her story might sound odd, only because we haven't heard all the facts yet.
Dylan was Apparently, Absolutely Terrified, and Too Petrified too make the 911 Call. She was So Afraid of being Heard by the Murderer.
How can Anyone FAULT this Poor Girl ????
She probably was unsure if he left or had maybe come back waiting to pick off her and the other roommate. The back door wasn’t locked and he could have easily came back, so how was she to know if he was still in the house? People need to have some empathy and respect for the remaining victims.
Vinny you don’t know if he seen her.
My prayers for the two survivors now they have to go to the trial. GOD BLESS THEM 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🌹
I’ve been baffled by the roommates response and I will continue to be, I wasn’t there. Her trauma must be immense.
Until you go through a traumatizing experience, you'll never understand the "weird" decisions one makes. I know how to take care of myself well, in my 33 years on earth I've managed to stay safe. However, a couple years ago when I went to the USA to visit my boyfriend, I was walking alone back home in NYC and a man started following me. There were other people but I thought maybe I'm just overreacting. I saw a store and figured I'd cross the street and go into the store, but I said nah... What if he comes after me in the middle of the road and attacks me, and I kept on walking. Then all the other people walking on that street left and I was left alone with that man, he said "excuse me miss" and I freaked out. Thank God a police patrol stopped right in front of me, and after I broke down and told the officers what happened, the first thing they said was "next time go to a store and stay there". I felt like they were a bit judgy, but even though you know what's the best route, you Don't always take it for several reasons. I was so scared I couldn't make the right decision even though I knew what to do.
Nice story.
NYC is a very dangerous place.
@@hkschubert9938 right now I can laugh at what happened but in that moment I was terrified. I was the type of person to probably judge this poor girl in the Idaho case, but after what happened to me I understood that was makes sense, doesn't translate to what you actually do. :(
I’m still baffled as to why it took so long for the police to be called. I get she didn’t want to come out of her room but surely after a couple of hours she would have known the intruder had left? Unless she fell asleep and if I was terrified I would have tried to notify the police somehow. In the UK you can contact the police without having to speak. I am not blaming her for what happened - it is not her fault.
DM helps catch the killer. Her fate was to catch a serial killer jack. The ripper would not be continued. She is a hero she had no idea that her roommates were murdered: she thought that it was a quarrel and that the stranger had left the house and the treat was over.
I thought about why she didn't call 911 a lot. Like most, my first thoughts were that that was crazy and somethings up with that. HOWEVER, the more I've thought about it, I think I've figured it out. We all rehearse we would call 911 in danger, but when in that situation, I believe she was in survival mode and she probably was terrified he would hear her or that he would hear the 911 operator but her survival told her to stay quiet, to not draw attention to herself. If he heard her calling 911, she was at risk to him breaking down the door and killing her. I truly believe this is what happened. And she is going through so much right now that chances are she doesn't even understand that to explain now.
Surviving is calling for help if you can't handle the situation on ur own! Call for help immediately!
I've thought about this a lot too. How many times do we watch "thrillers" or horror movies that are based on an omniscient monster stalking and killing a helpless woman? We're conditioned to think the monster will win in any contest and women are the prey.
She could've texted somebody.
@@CowneloAlvaroid Staying alive is surviving... I got a feeling, that you're already on your 9th life... You're just too dumb, not to realize it
@@CowneloAlvaroid No, that's not called "surviving", that's called "probably dying" coz the murderer just outside the door heard you talking to 911.
Amazing that the prosecution doesn’t have to prove motive of the killer but the roommate is getting crucified by a lot of Karen’s over what motivated her actions. Let it go, she’s a victim and is not on trial.
If Bryan went towards the roommate, she had the chance to close her door, and the hall was dark
Hind sight is 20/20!! The guy explained it well. When she heard what she did and then saw him. Im sure the last thing on her mind was that he just stabbed 4 people!! She was probably freaked out then didn’t hear anything else and by that time it was close to 439am she most likely fell asleep and didn’t ever think she would wake up to what she did. Al of us are commenting on it after we know what happened. None of us can say what we would or wouldn’t do. Im just so over so many folks coming down on her!!! Imagine the trauma and the amount of survivors guilt she has!!!!!!!
I wonder... does Bryan have access to the internet and is he watching the world's reaction to this case?
I have heard so many people trying to blame the surviving roommate for not calling the police!! I don't understand it. THANK GOD she was not killed because tho she is going to need years of therapy she will be an intricate piece of the puzzle. Why this happened? I don't think he will ever really say I think he is so full of himself. I pray this will be a death penalty case because anything short of that is disrespectful for the parents, survivors and most importantly the victims. Thoughts and prayers to everone this senseless tragedy affected. 📿🙏💔💔
Wrong🤡 1st) Dylan is NOT one of the victims, she is one of the 2 survivors🤦♂️
2nd) Asking why she didn't call 911 is simply a question ya goof
@@CowneloAlvaroid people like you (that always have to be right) I really don't care to converse with......
Also try to stay away from name calling. I am sorry.... Does it make you feel better?????
I agree with somebody freezing up when they see something but why did it take six hours for that person to wake up the other roommate and go check on their roommates?
These are young college kids from homes that may not have ever had to call the police for anything. Very different from kids that grow up in rough neighborhoods that have to call police for crimes against them, family, friends, property, etc. very different worlds. She was in shock and in survival mode. Be mindful of your hurtful comments. These kids are not use to the violence that kids in some neighborhoods are unfortunately experiencing. It will shock someone who never experienced a break in, witnessed an assault, etc. versus those that see awful behavior almost daily and hear gunshots daily, etc. Your background experience does matter when you get out in the world.