I really like the music in this version, both NES and MSX versions of this game are jewels, But the Famicom port was king with the story cinematic, map screen between levels and small graphical changes like trees blowing in the wind and more.
I actually played this game all the way through despite playing the NES version a million times. This was due to the fact it changes a lot of things around like weapon drops let you choose which gun you get. The only major complaint I had was with the lack of scrolling where the game kept spawning enemies from the side of the screen you were near. Though the lack of scrolling in and of itself wasn't bad. It just felt like one of those NES games like Snow Bros. or Bubble Bobble where you go from room to room which was cool.
I never saw these graphics, colours or speed movement in my old MSX. And I couldn't imagine it was possible. This looks like more a NES game than a MSX one.
@@jendorei , and ditto for Contra, as the NES/FDS port of Contra came out a full year before the MSX version of the game. Still, I would love to see a much longer alien base and have the levels that came after the alien boss at the end of NES/FDS Contra that are in this MSX port of the game, as well as the extra levels that are in this port of the game as well, be before you get to the alien boss. Honestly, it would not be that difficult to add in the extra levels, since the same sprites are used in those parts of the game as they are elsewhere in the game.
This true original contra~ im not said about gameplay~ Let thinking for it~ MSX computer is a first developed on japan~ First Metal Gear came from it system too~ On it version stage 9 after destroyed alien heart, bill was discover secret walk way hiding alien heart below map thought deep-sea, TRUE alien nest was build nearly to lava arena because they needed high temperature place (you can watch the ending stage) And normal version bill after destroyed alien heart (stage 8) was evacuated~ he become hero saved the world but... he didn't destroy (didn't know) true alien nest was in deep-sea... That how contra story still continues... (Super-C) Sorry my bad English~ i just wanna let you know~ maybe... Maybe this is easter egg~ "well done konami, and now looking you !"
I do not consider this game to be the true Contra game...it is a decent port, certainly, but it honestly could have been handled better, and this port is also essentially the same thing that is also on the IBM PC from back in the day +Yu KiRo. Yes, it had a few good things, namely a life gauge, the ability to switch guns on the fly, the ability to keep said guns even AFTER you die in the game, a gun that could fire from the front AND rear, which should have appeared as a "D" power up in the NES/Famicom versions of the game, and a "V" if you wanted to up the ante and have a four way directional gun, AND more levels than any other version of Contra, but the enemy reactions in this port of the game were too slow, the turret guns were too lazily designed, the enemies, including the bosses, kind of are lazily designed, they lack the variety of their NES/Famicom counterparts, and it moved not unlike Super Mario Brothers Special for the NEC PC 98, which is to say, too damn slow to be any good (though, to its credit, NOT as badly as Haunted Castle for play on arcade systems, and its controls are also much better than that game). The music, while recognizable, honestly could have also benefitted from a bit more work.
Actually, the Famicom version of Contra (which wasn't a direct port like the NES one but rather a major enhancement) actually had a message that could be activated I believe with a button combo at the end which directly leads to the events of Super C.
Funny how the info says " Im amazed they dont have Final Fantasy on this console" First, it's not a console, it's a computer. Second, it does have Final Fantasy :D Both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest got ported to the MSX.
I actually didn't expect another incomplete version of the theme at 18:32. Even moreso as while it is at the same tempo as NES, it is also in the same key as arcade.
@ValisHD yeah its just...disturbing..a gun that shoot front and rear...so the guy is not getting killed by his own gun but can get hit by others bullets...nice >.> lol
Gosh, the imitations this console has compared to the nes, but nonetheless it still a pretty good version of Contra. Really like the ability to switch guns whenever and having a health bar.
Airsh Bornely The MSX's limitations are a bit of an odd beast -- the MSX1 was basically a Colecovision, the MSX2 (as pictured here) was like an NES with better sound but no hardware support for horizontal scrolling (though a lot of developers found creative ways to program around this), the MSX2+ was the same as the MSX2 but with horizontal scrolling support and a few other added features (thus making it technically superior to the NES in most regards), and then finally, the MSX turboR was an absolute beast that almost felt like a predecessor to the TurboGrafx-16. The longevity of the MSX platform in Japan made for a huge variety in its gaming library -- from "primitive" games to titles that could potentially fool people into thinking they're 16-bit (look up footage of Space Manbow sometime!). It all depends on when the game you're playing was made, and how ambitious the developers were with the hardware.
Ramiro1992 (Mr_X) Not in the West, but it was HUGE in Japan. It was easily the Famicom's biggest competitor, blowing away the Sega Master System and pretty much everything else. That's why it survived in the marketplace over there for like, 12-13 years, and got so many upgrades and expansions during that time -- because people just kept buying it!
@Sholmesher Or play the best version on the Amstrad CPC and preferably on a 14" CRT TV for smoother graphics. The CPC had almost 16-bit machine graphics on this game, which was amazing for the time; loads of colour and detail etc.
In deed was longer than the original Contra but the level designs get sacrificed a lot (and not even talking about how repetitive they get)... also, do we ever get the shotgun in this game?
@The100thAttempt Within November 1985, Windows Had debuted on the IBM. It didn't have a Direct X to be running those type of programs, other wise on the DoS; is that what you had meant? It would of been way more superior than this MSX on an IBM DoS Prompt 256 color. Before Windows on an IBM, it was in person that I had witness a Windows OS on a big floppy to run directly from the format; made for an Apple II. Thats a lot of RAM for MSX at its time! But Nintendo is stronger made in the same year
Wrong! It's Gryzor only in European arcade version and some home computer ports. The MSX version is not one of them. This game is actually still called Contra; the video title is wrong.
Can someone please help me? I was trying to play this game on a MSX emulator. It works, but I don't know the controls, I can't read the manual because it's on Japanese. So the Spacebar is shoot, but what key is for the jump?
this dosent look like a msx game....msx 2 maybe but definetly not a msx 1 game. its not unusual for people to list msx 2 games as just msx, but there is a difference
Cubex, can you please change the title of this video? The game is not called Gryzor; it's still called Contra. This MSX version is called Contra, despite what the ROM says. The title screen reads Contra. The only versions of Contra that are "Gryzor" are European arcade version, CPC, C64, ZX Spectrum and DOS versions.
It's completely LAUGHABLE how the MSX hardware can provide superior background graphics but can't handle scrolling due to a weak processor that is inferior to the ones found in the NES and Famicom. The difficulty is literally NON-EXISTENT. Like "handling you very gently with 3-layers of kid's gloves Non-Existent".
MSX doesn't have hardware scrolling as it was a home computer not a games console. MSX hardware (audio, cpu, video chip setup) is almost identical to Master System except for the scrolling.
@@gunma747j not totally true, there were hardware kits that transformed msx1 computers into msx2, 2+ and turbo-r, this were quite common in Brazil in the 80's
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I really like the music in this version, both NES and MSX versions of this game are jewels, But the Famicom port was king with the story cinematic, map screen between levels and small graphical changes like trees blowing in the wind and more.
I know, right? Aren't the VRC mappers awesome?
4:44 almost looks like a teenage mutant ninja turtle trying to stop you.
I prefer the NES version,but this is a decent version of Contra.
Try the Famicom one!! The BEST!
Well this was a interesting version on Contra. Not only they changed somethings, they added more levels. Neat!
Thanks for showing this game to us.
Verdade
I actually played this game all the way through despite playing the NES version a million times. This was due to the fact it changes a lot of things around like weapon drops let you choose which gun you get. The only major complaint I had was with the lack of scrolling where the game kept spawning enemies from the side of the screen you were near. Though the lack of scrolling in and of itself wasn't bad. It just felt like one of those NES games like Snow Bros. or Bubble Bobble where you go from room to room which was cool.
MSX isn't the fastest computer on earth, but its hear is in the right place. The soundtrack is a great rendition!
Cubex, in relation to the description, there actually is a final fantasy port for the msx. It's looks and sounds nice. The soundtrack is on TH-cam.
Looks nice, but also incredibly choppy, as the MSX doesn’t seem to be able to do scrolling.
wow. MSX version has a life gauge now!
it’s because it’s not from Konami!!!! :D
@@PauloSilva111 But it's still hard as hell!!!! (Just kidding)
Wow, I never knew this game existed on MSX! What a cool find!
The only game I ever played on the MSX was the original Metal Gear. I never knew Contra came out on the MSX as well!
Lots of (Konami, but also Capcom, Namco, etc.) games that were released on the NES also had MSX counterparts.
Say what you will about the rest of this game, "Vicious Space" is one of the most awesome final stage names ever.
I never saw these graphics, colours or speed movement in my old MSX. And I couldn't imagine it was possible. This looks like more a NES game than a MSX one.
Well, that is, much like Vampire Killer and Castlevania, this game did get an NES port, +carajillodwsq.
MSX 2
@@paxhumana2015 In the case of Castlevania, the one on the NES is the original…
@@jendorei , and ditto for Contra, as the NES/FDS port of Contra came out a full year before the MSX version of the game. Still, I would love to see a much longer alien base and have the levels that came after the alien boss at the end of NES/FDS Contra that are in this MSX port of the game, as well as the extra levels that are in this port of the game as well, be before you get to the alien boss. Honestly, it would not be that difficult to add in the extra levels, since the same sprites are used in those parts of the game as they are elsewhere in the game.
So musically accurate to the Arcade and sound effects being similar to the NES version.
Side scroller without sidescrolling FTW!
This true original contra~
im not said about gameplay~ Let thinking for it~ MSX computer is a first developed on japan~ First Metal Gear came from it system too~
On it version stage 9 after destroyed alien heart, bill was discover secret walk way hiding alien heart below map thought deep-sea, TRUE alien nest was build nearly to lava arena because they needed high temperature place (you can watch the ending stage)
And normal version bill after destroyed alien heart (stage 8) was evacuated~
he become hero saved the world but... he didn't destroy (didn't know) true alien nest was in deep-sea... That how contra story still continues... (Super-C)
Sorry my bad English~ i just wanna let you know~ maybe... Maybe this is easter egg~ "well done konami, and now looking you !"
I do not consider this game to be the true Contra game...it is a decent port, certainly, but it honestly could have been handled better, and this port is also essentially the same thing that is also on the IBM PC from back in the day +Yu KiRo. Yes, it had a few good things, namely a life gauge, the ability to switch guns on the fly, the ability to keep said guns even AFTER you die in the game, a gun that could fire from the front AND rear, which should have appeared as a "D" power up in the NES/Famicom versions of the game, and a "V" if you wanted to up the ante and have a four way directional gun, AND more levels than any other version of Contra, but the enemy reactions in this port of the game were too slow, the turret guns were too lazily designed, the enemies, including the bosses, kind of are lazily designed, they lack the variety of their NES/Famicom counterparts, and it moved not unlike Super Mario Brothers Special for the NEC PC 98, which is to say, too damn slow to be any good (though, to its credit, NOT as badly as Haunted Castle for play on arcade systems, and its controls are also much better than that game). The music, while recognizable, honestly could have also benefitted from a bit more work.
Actually, the Famicom version of Contra (which wasn't a direct port like the NES one but rather a major enhancement) actually had a message that could be activated I believe with a button combo at the end which directly leads to the events of Super C.
@@paxhumana2015 He wasn't talking about gameplay, he was talking about story.
This is why they should of had a PC Engine port of Contra.
Ironically, Konami owns the rights to the PC Engine and TurboGrafx-16 since Hudson Soft merged into Konami back in 2012.
@@ValentinesEve1996 what good would that do now?
What
Woah, you could select weapons on the MSX version? Now that's awesome.
@bl00derly That's because it is Contra. The original title was called Gryzor everywhere but the USA.
This version would be great if the levels scrolled rather than using a flick-screen system.
excellent classic Contra
Funny how the info says " Im amazed they dont have Final Fantasy on this console"
First, it's not a console, it's a computer.
Second, it does have Final Fantasy :D Both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest got ported to the MSX.
you’re forgetting Zemina - it was a console, it was an msx, and it was from the 80's
The msx had "turbo" sound back then.
I actually didn't expect another incomplete version of the theme at 18:32. Even moreso as while it is at the same tempo as NES, it is also in the same key as arcade.
Doesn't the music in this version of Contra sound exactly like a TurboGrafx 16 video game?
Sucks that it didn't utilize the scrolling feature on MSX2. Is there any other tech hurdle about this?
8:20 What?! That was it?!
an interesting version that actually wasn’t coded by Konami, only the game assets were from them - it used the same game engine as Mon Mon Monster
@ValisHD yeah its just...disturbing..a gun that shoot front and rear...so the guy is not getting killed by his own gun but can get hit by others bullets...nice >.> lol
But, if the true end of Contra I is this, we won't have Super Contra, Force...
no there is a only bad ending in contra.....the cpc version as I remember....
I mead ,there won't be any aliens left
It's an actual version. Look it up.
Still have the original to this one.
Oh God, it was so different from the NES version!
Note:Something has similar to Metal Gear on MSX2 such as screen change when move to the corner of the screen
Gosh, the imitations this console has compared to the nes, but nonetheless it still a pretty good version of Contra. Really like the ability to switch guns whenever and having a health bar.
Airsh Bornely The MSX's limitations are a bit of an odd beast -- the MSX1 was basically a Colecovision, the MSX2 (as pictured here) was like an NES with better sound but no hardware support for horizontal scrolling (though a lot of developers found creative ways to program around this), the MSX2+ was the same as the MSX2 but with horizontal scrolling support and a few other added features (thus making it technically superior to the NES in most regards), and then finally, the MSX turboR was an absolute beast that almost felt like a predecessor to the TurboGrafx-16.
The longevity of the MSX platform in Japan made for a huge variety in its gaming library -- from "primitive" games to titles that could potentially fool people into thinking they're 16-bit (look up footage of Space Manbow sometime!). It all depends on when the game you're playing was made, and how ambitious the developers were with the hardware.
+Airsh Bornely this is not a console, it's a computer
Ramiro1992 (Mr_X)
Yeah, but let's face it, most people treated it like a console that just so happened to have a keyboard and a disk drive. ;)
Wyrdwad maybe but the msx was very unpopular compared to the nes, even with the master system the msx was not popular at all
Ramiro1992 (Mr_X)
Not in the West, but it was HUGE in Japan. It was easily the Famicom's biggest competitor, blowing away the Sega Master System and pretty much everything else. That's why it survived in the marketplace over there for like, 12-13 years, and got so many upgrades and expansions during that time -- because people just kept buying it!
cubex55: there *is* Final Fantasy for MSX... Just play it...
@The100thAttempt Wow, but MSX has that superior sssoound
Inferior, you mean?
@Sholmesher
Or play the best version on the Amstrad CPC and preferably on a 14" CRT TV for smoother graphics. The CPC had almost 16-bit machine graphics on this game, which was amazing for the time; loads of colour and detail etc.
In deed was longer than the original Contra but the level designs get sacrificed a lot (and not even talking about how repetitive they get)... also, do we ever get the shotgun in this game?
RRROFL LAUGHABLE MSX... It feels like A SUPERIOR APPLE Computer of the 90s!! -eimaXe
Hey! That doesn't look half bad!
@2hakkabakka
This might foreshadow the events of Super Contra/Super C
Is this a one hit death type game like the rest? It looks as if you have a life bar at the bottom of the screen.
@The100thAttempt Within November 1985, Windows Had debuted on the IBM. It didn't have a Direct X to be running those type of programs, other wise on the DoS; is that what you had meant? It would of been way more superior than this MSX on an IBM DoS Prompt 256 color. Before Windows on an IBM, it was in person that I had witness a Windows OS on a big floppy to run directly from the format; made for an Apple II. Thats a lot of RAM for MSX at its time! But Nintendo is stronger made in the same year
It's an MSX 2 game.
#TrueEnd
Wrong! It's Gryzor only in European arcade version and some home computer ports. The MSX version is not one of them. This game is actually still called Contra; the video title is wrong.
only one enemy on screen, yeah i can get used to this
Can someone please help me?
I was trying to play this game on a MSX emulator. It works, but I don't know the controls, I can't read the manual because it's on Japanese. So the Spacebar is shoot, but what key is for the jump?
try "m" key - is the same second key as used on Nemesis trilogy, and etc.
not enough ram to have choice in the underpass????
this dosent look like a msx game....msx 2 maybe but definetly not a msx 1 game.
its not unusual for people to list msx 2 games as just msx, but there is a difference
was pretty sure it was, thankyou
this is good version of contra better color more detail every where...
this looks like contra
i love this
The worst mistake about this version, no damn spread gun! it's not Contra without the shotgun
As terrible as this port was, "Vicious Space" is the most awesome final stage theme I've ever seen.
They do have Final Fantasy.
SCC ftw
wait it also sounds like contra
Rear gun? wut?
asphalt jungle? wtf?
Cubex, can you please change the title of this video? The game is not called Gryzor; it's still called Contra. This MSX version is called Contra, despite what the ROM says. The title screen reads Contra. The only versions of Contra that are "Gryzor" are European arcade version, CPC, C64, ZX Spectrum and DOS versions.
Um, no, the FDS version of the game was called Gryzor and, in PAL regions, specifically, Germany, the game was called Probotector.
@@paxhumana2015 100% correct
amigo de que consola es ese juego
morrison chele de un ordenador llamado msx.
Zemina sold msx hardware as game console in South Korea, back in the 80's too
敖厂长的观众顶一下！
...水下八關的真面目....
火把汽油就位！
刚看完他火箭车的视频，就来找这个了
Inferior Contra port. No scrolling screen?
contra, yay! =D
So weird that there's no scrolling. It's like playing a Zelda game.
Castlevania "Vampire Killer" also hadn’t
What is MSX?
Which is better: Arcade, this or NES?
The NES always wins
In contra msx ver bill lizer has long hair
@homie3star thanks for the info
I know this game is named contra is this a copy or somethin?
Vlad, The Aesthetic Starman no,dats a arcade port
Looks and sounds miles better than the NES port.
Good music but too many door
the music is very good too bad nes couldn't compare it sorry.
This version is garbage compared to the contra we all know and love.
This port of the game honestly has a few things that are going in its favor.
Wow, this port is kind of a mess.
La música es buena el apartado gráfico
No tanto
#水下八关
Very hard
MSX 2
It's completely LAUGHABLE how the MSX hardware can provide superior background graphics but can't handle scrolling due to a weak processor that is inferior to the ones found in the NES and Famicom.
The difficulty is literally NON-EXISTENT. Like "handling you very gently with 3-layers of kid's gloves Non-Existent".
MSX doesn't have hardware scrolling as it was a home computer not a games console. MSX hardware (audio, cpu, video chip setup) is almost identical to Master System except for the scrolling.
1:05
It's an MSX 2 game. Your MSX probably was an MSX 1.
This is actually a very weak port of the game IMO. There are more impressive games for MSX 2.
Rafael Lima msx 1 can't run msx 2 games
@@gunma747j not totally true, there were hardware kits that transformed msx1 computers into msx2, 2+ and turbo-r, this were quite common in Brazil in the 80's
@Jonathan Carter More levels that were nothing special, and surely Konami could put more effort to create the extra bosses
Are you fucking kidding? The same music track over and over at every level? Besides, the game is really crap on C64.
i guess Konami didn’t provide all the game assets to Bit2 then! :D
Msx version sucks
juego pirata...
NES is way better!
Damn, this version is very bad. Not even close to the NES. Terrible controls and pathetic hitbox detection, guess nobody played msx back then
this version is awful
I agree totally!!!
Is just an opinion, instead I really like this port, especially the songs
Piece of shit, just like almost every single other game on the MSX. It’s no wonder that shitty computer got released in the US.