I'll say this again, I have said it before. Jony Ives! Since he has left Apple, it's like a completely different design philosophy. Apple has stopped trying to come up absurd designs that affect the functional user experience of the actual product. All the things you mentioned i.e. MacPro Trashcan, Magic Mouse, No ports, Touchbar all decisions that are being rolled back to get the actual functional experience better. And for once, I'm loving this new Apple!
I've also made that conclusion. He left in 2019. LITERALLY after he left, we started getting much more functional design. He left and we immediately started seeing better Macbook Pros that actually fit the Pro name. We got iPhones that actually do shit and are able to hold their own against Android phones respectively in all aspects.
Wow you are so right!! I never thought about that. Mac design/performance was such a step back from 2016-2019 And now apple is making thicker, more efficient products with insane performance. Absolutely loving it!!
It's possible and it appears that way but I would imagine Apple thinking a lot further into the future when it comes to products. It's not like they design everything they showed in the past year or so. But at any rate, as long as we benefit, I don't care what happens.
He’s still doing work for,Apple from his own company. In fact, Apple remains his largest customer. So,we really don’t know what he’s done for,them since he’s left. He’s also don’t some of the very best work Apple ever did.
@@pr0ject25o1 If Apple doesn't go with the M1 Ultra Instinct or Ultra Magnus for it's Mac Pro, a little nerd-dork part of me will be devastated (though not surprised).
I'm tired of people complaining about the names Apple used. Just be thankful they're not using Sony style naming. The new chip could be called the "The Apple M1-PX-439-H2SSV4 chip!"
In my opinion, I can deal with an extra pound as long as the machines is cooled properly. As we know, a proper cooled chip has extreme potential. What do you think?
I feel like they are gonna call the m1 chip for the mac pro "M1 Goliath" and they are gonna make it just a bunch of m1 maxes fused together. I can totally see Apple doing this
2027: Apple comes out with the M1 Exodia, you need to have 5 different Apple products with the chip in in your hand order to activate it but once you draw them all in the same hand, you immediately win the duel.
Wouldn't it be crazy if Apple had built in a wireless magsafe charger in the top of the Mac Studio, so you could charge your phone there while you're working on something? And maybe for heat management, the wireless charging only activates, if the NFC chip of the iPhone talks to the magsafe system on the Studio when it detects that an iPhone is resting on its top... That would be nice imo
Extra ports, yes. A typical Mac Pro Tower will have quite a few extra cards installed in the back (video capture cards, for example). When Apple talks about this being a "Modular Setup", it's kinda like the original mac compared to PCs of the late 80 / early 90s… those modems, zip drives, etc, etc on a normal PC would have been installed internally by the user, whereas with these Modular Mac Desktops they're thunderbolt / USBC devices that connect in with a cable and sit somewhere else on the desk. Really, it's the same theory apple used with the G4 cube, the trashcan Mac Pro, and the original iMac from 1998 where it was no longer possible to install expansion cards inside your Macintosh.
@@waltonks8172 yeah that’s what they meant but calling it modular is dumb and misleading bc by that logic, all computers minus all-in-ones are modular when you can plug them into a display. “Modular” implies you can change the components in the mac studio so they shouldn’t have presented it like that
M1 is the generation. There are four models of M1 so far, and max is one of them. Once all M1 models Are launched, M2 will be launched. It is a very clever way to manage product variations. If you buy M1 ultra today, M2 will come soon, which is less in performance, so customers will not feel bad. So it will take more than a year for a model to become old generation.
I can imagine these being the center of extremely high end studio workstations. Imagine the amount of tracks running with stacks of effects in pro tools and logic pro. A squid of thunderbolt docks coming out the back and routing to all the cables, as God intended it really.
If only Apple would support MST we could daisy chain between monitors. Instead we are forced to plug every monitor into the back of the Studio. Maybe this is a feature they are holding back for second revision of Apple Silicone? Also missing from their display is a second Thunderbolt to achieve daisy chaining on their displays.
I really think we might get a "X1" instead of a M series chip for the Mac Pro considering they might have to redesign the Max chip for more Ultra Fusion links in order to attach more dies together. Edit: This moniker could work well as it replaces the "Xeon" chips Edit 2: This could be very likely now
If I remember it correctly, they said in the March event, that M1 Ultra is the last M1 chip. What I think is, that they are gonna redesign the M1 Max die with the latest features, that came from an A16 and then interconnect four of those redesigned M1 dies together to create a single chip, possibly called X1. The multithreaded performance is going to be unparalleled while they are going to beat both Intel's and AMD's chips in single threaded work loads for the next two years. Also, I think, that the top tier Mac is going to feature high speed cores only and use the A16 architecture with higher clocks. In my opinion, this is the most reasonable next step even when you consider game theory. If they are capable of delivering higher single threaded workloads they should deliver them as soon as possible, preferably in their top tier product using a distinct branding. X1 would sound fire.
@@mk_mason Ya most probably, but I was just thinking about it, they could probably use the "X" in line with the Xeon chips offered in the current Mac Pro. As in it would make more sense if they addressed it by saying that the X moniker replaces the "Xeon" in terms of a new performance standard and a differentiator like with Intel.
@@jurajchobot It really depends on the release schedule, if it's June/July it's gonna use the M1 arch, if it's late this year or next year, it might use M2 arch. But I do think that they might use the M2 arch base and use that to form derivatives that go into the macbooks, iPads and the Mac Studio moving forward, almost like a trickle down effect.
The new Mac Studio tops out at 128GB of RAM. For an average desktop user, that’s huge. But the current Mac Pro tops out at 1.5TB of RAM. Similar PC workstations top out at 2TB of RAM and we’re on the verge of having workstations that top out at 4TB of RAM. For the computing tasks that require that much RAM, the Mac Studio isn’t powerful.
Just listen to what Apple actually said... they NEVER said the Mac Studio is modular... Apple said that many want a modular system and display so that they can get the perfect setup for them. Which literally just meant that the Mac and its Display are no longer in one body but two separate devices...
Well the Studio is modular because it's not an AiO like the 27-inch 5k iMac which it is replacing. You can choose your own peripherals, accessories or in other words BYODKM(Bring your own display, keyboard and mouse).
M1 MacBook Air is still the best laptop or a computer device in the market & this is coming from a developer. For example I can use Xcode, Chrome and Visual studio C simultaneously even now. So, If you are looking high performance laptop just by MacBook Air and rest are just hype numbers.
At this point I feel like the graph choices are intentional to say “hey, don’t believe our graphs too much but this is what we were able to find internally”
When Apple finally comes out with a front facing port design “Macmini”, why on earth would you think of putting the box as a backpack on the display? Kind of defeats the reason for the design… Might as well wait and get an iMac pro with the M1 ultra (which is bound to come out one day, probably later in the year or next year) …
It looks alright , one thought comes to mind , with those small perforations around the bottom for the air inlet , how long is it going to take for dust to choke it up , not all environments are clinical dust free areas , and should we need to blow it out internally , how do we go about it , does it have a removable plate on the base ?
I have been using Windows machines for about 25 years and am now using a mac book pro for the first time as UK businesses are dishing them out as a 'perk'. So the hardware is pretty good, battery life good, nice screen, etc. But the software is appalling. OSX is just not a mature operating system compared to Windows. So many keyboard shortcuts are 3 or 4 keys!! I can't find a half decent free image editor. There's sooo many bugs everywhere. I am in hell!!
Calling this TINY thing "tall" is quite the flex. Seriously. This thing is nothing but extremely small. The Mac Studio is probably less than HALF the smallest Windows PC you can get that has usable amount of power. Let alone a PC that has as much power as this thing throws on the table. A similar powered Windows PC would need a GPU that by itself is almost twice as big in volume than the entire Mac Studio.
Apple said that the M1 Ultra is the last chip of the lineup so I would say that it will have just the exact same M1 Ultra. But in a bigger body for more and real modularity. The M1 Ultra is literally 2 M1 Max chips but they still gave it its own name so there's no way they would do 4 M1 Max chips but not give it its own name. And the design of the M1 Max doesn't even allow 4 chips. They only have one connector at the bottom. But there's also no way that the Mac Pro will feature an M2 chip of some sort because that would mess up the ENTIRE naming scheme.
Apparently, online people think the "Modularity" is the IO, with the large selection of ports. I guess we'll have to wait to see what they mean by "modularity".
We don’t have to wait and see. It’s blindingly obvious. There is no internal expansion of any kind. You buy a particular configuration and that’s it. The only way it’s different from a non-modular iMac is that the monitor is separate. That’s it.
"Modular" here meant relative to iMacs. Basically pair your own computer with external monitor (Studio Display) instead of everything in an all-in-one like the iMac 27". It's basically them trying to justify killing the iMac 27" lineup. But yeah the terminology is misleading at best.
When he says "modular" he's comparing it to a MacBook and talking about peripherals (display, keyboard, input device). It's a matter of perspective and a completely valid use of the word even if it's not the kind of modularity we'd all prefer. External vs internal modularity.
I agree. Its certainly more modular than an iMac which you basically have to give/throw away even though it has a perfectly good display that you may want to keep. Modularity doesn't always mean being able to open the thing up to add things.
My concern is that the fan seems to be burried and difficult to service and clean. There also doesn’t seem to be any prefiltation. So that is going to be an ongoing problem of cleaning by design. Am I wrong?
I thought the "modularity" claim would manifest into an endlessly stackable system. Like.... physically stacking macs on each other. But it would require some form of an "Ultra-Connect" cable to tap into that Ultra-Fusion Architecture and actually realize such a "modular" system.
Doubt it. I think they're done with their naming here. M M Pro M Max M Ultra Apple said on the keynote that the M1 Ultra is the last chip of the lineup. And there's no way that the chip in the Mac Pro will be M2 because that would mess up the entire naming scheme.
@@Raja995mh33 It's possible that Mac Pro gets its own name designation for its chipset. Separate from the M2. I'm guessing it's gonna be the 4-Die version of the 2-Die M1 Ultra, but with a modified chip that makes the base different from M1 Max, but they're gonna name it something different. Like M Extreme or MX, or something. Sort of like Intel Xeon, a specific name for the top of the line
Now would actually be the prime time for Apple to jump into the server market. A non-GUI version of MacOS, run exclusively on their server hardware, running M1 chips. The chips are perfect for server architecture. Fast, minimal heat, and low-powered. They've competed with Windows/PC for ever, and are killing it. Now it's time to look in the direction of Linux and offer competition for that market (big-business server) too.
FWIW - the weight difference between the studio max and ultra is due to a copper heat sync on the Ultra and an aluminum heat sync on max version. This has been known for a few days already. Can’t believe yall weren’t aware.
this was their first reaction video, and the video has been out for a few days, this is a clip from that video, why do you think they are obligated to know this?
I am looking forward to the M1 Ultra stress tests. Also, I'm pretty sure people will still need to add a hub or Thunderbolt doc to fit a bunch of their current stuff, unless they go out and purchase new stuff. Apple is good for convincing you to go buy new stuff to fit the new thing you just bought from them LOL! Also, the modularity could mean using the Studio in render farms or datacenters. Consider 1 studio as 1 complete module. Buy 1000 of them at a discount and have a small efficient supercomputer that rivals what we already have. Buy 10000 for 40 million, and have the worlds fastest, most efficient supercomputer. Yes, consider 1 Studio, as 1 module.
Well I understand that for small time miners and enterprises you could do this, but supercomputers of 100+petaFLOPS all have custom made boards that can fit 30+ processors each, which are mounted in server racks that can hold a good amount of these boards. You are talking about thousands of cpus dedicated to processing power. There’s no amount of Macs, regardless of generation or power, than can hold a candle to a supercomputer
@@qwertpoiuy430 - TH-cam keeps removing my response to you. Please look up the Apple G5 Supercomputer at Virginia Tech. They already did what I was referring to, and with this new stuff, I am looking forward to someone doing it again. If I had a million dollars to donate to my Alma Mater FAMU, I would build one and fund a few students education too. Also check out Macstatdium.
@@michaelbyrd4004 The G5 Supercomputer doesn't hold a candle to any modern day Supercomputers, it was only #3 in the month it debuted because supercomputers back then were just hundreds of computers acting as nodes. That isn't how (most) of them work today, and the fastest ones that exist today aren't even made by Intel or AMD or any consumer brand chipmaker, they're made by companies that literally only make supercomputers and similar tech.
Hey but 12 south could make a mount that hooks it to the stand on the studio display. So you can reach the button still easy and not actually behind the monitor, but attached to the stand.
Pro, Max, Ultra,... By biggest problem is it's not immediately clear which is best. If it were me I'd copy the anniversary hierarchy, so have M1 paper, M1 iron, M1 Silver, M1 Gold , M1 platinum, etc
@@redsoxers if they had not attempted to replace the tower with the cylinder form factor they would not have had to cram so much heat into such a small form factor. It wouldve been the compact mid range device they now clearly understand they have lacked basically forever. Every other computer company has a mid range desktop. Apple basically builds a Ford Escape (mini) and an Expedition (mac pro) and now they finally have an Explorer (studio). The trash can was an Explorer but they thought it was the Expedition.
You can buy spiral conduit to cable manage behind desk to ground, so you have just a 1 to 2 foot lead from PC to behind desk, then run conduit down to last few feet where cables split off to various plugs.
Think about the thunderbolt ports are all hub ports, so with the max you can take the back four 40GBps ports to sixteen 40GBps ports! On the ultra that’s 6 to 24 full speed thunderbolt ports!!
Literally the day before the announcement my boss told me they ordered a new Mac Pro for me to use and all I can think is how they could’ve saved so much more money and (most likely) had a better computer if they just waited and asked me. I’m a graphic designer so the current Mac Pro will be fine and I love the look of it but I’d like to see how long the support for these go when I know the M1 computers will keep getting support for years to come
They are truly prepping for virtual reality with these nuts GPUs. We need 8k for good AR and VR so these computers will really allow creators to make the new age media!
not true. 8k is technically 4 times the amount of pixels of 4k (it sounds odd but it really is. look it up.) 4k with good antialiasing per-eye displays would be a mere fraction of the pixel count of 8k in each eye, and indistinguishable in quality difference due to the PPI we are dealing with here. this is theoretically will be light work for the m1 ultra though.
@@funknugget6334 that makes sense. What I’m imagining virtual reality being is not goggles but high quality displays like the current XDR display. I believe our brains will be perfectly okay with “bezels” for our virtual reality experience. 4K(or higher quality) processing will be essential for building and interacting with these worlds. Let me know what you think!
@@funknugget6334 I’ve seen 8k, and there is no question that it’s better. The 20/20 eye can definitely distinguish the difference. 8k will be a AR/VR standard. I doubt society will demand more than 8k, but there are already 12k cameras and more!.
VR is never getting wide adoption. It's not the pixel density that is the problem, it's that focal length of the eye is a critical cue for depth perception and it's utterly missing in VR where you're just staring into infinity the whole time, but weirdly things that are just "feet away" are still in focus. Half the population is nauseated and there are no feasible solutions.
@@codediporpal thats one of my points, NO headsets in the future. If you happen to have access to one of the new ipads with the mini led (or the macbooks) try turning off all the lights in the room so it's pitch black. Then watch a youtube video by veritasium. My experience was incredible. Truly felt like I was in the video because of his use of 3D effects. felt like VR to me without a headset
Hey Marques! been following you since your NEXUS 5 review! Just commenting to say enjoying your videos more and more and they've been very helpful! Thanks
Us creatives are sometimes computer 'geeks' but not usually. We just want to do our work as fast as possible, and these new Studio Macs fit the bill with no upgrades. I think they totally get us, finally.
Off subject, I’ve been listening to podcasts the past few hours with some headphones.. and the quality of richness of your podcast is mind blowing. Well done 👏🏻
Question: Please tell us when using the Photoshop Magic Brush, is there any difference in performance between the Mac Studio Max Vs Ultra? The Magic brush uses GPU power so it should be much better on the Ultra. Thanks
Modular? They should have made this like a nuc. When the m2 or m3 systems come, let you swap out your existing m1 ultra board, reuse chassis + psu + heatsink.
I’m thinking a under-mount for a desk setup would be super badass u can keep your access in the front for sd card slot and might have better cooling. As well
If you consider this to be the replacement for the iMac Pro then the ‘system’ it is replacing includes the display, and this is more modular than that.
Unless you're in the niche vertical market that will make use of it it's rather meaningless though. Take the M1 iPad. No reason to put the M1 in an iPad except as a marketing tool. For 2/3 of users the M1 MacBook Air is already perfect, ports aside. Techies love big numbers but it's more important to know if you'll use those numbers. Its why despite Apple on ARM Windows and Android are doing just fine.
Well, there could be a lot of reasons why. For instance, due to IC shortages surrounding the iPad lineup, this change could possibly alleviate strain on the supply chain. The M1 reduced the need for many discrete ICs on the Mac PCB, I don’t immediately see why it couldn’t also do the same for the iPad Air PCB. This is great news for those seeking a base model iPad. But putting speculation aside, at least the retail price hasn’t increased.
@@gagec6390 what are you realistically going to notice between the two chips on a mobile OS? The a15 is more power efficient anyways. Pretty sure no consumer could see a difference in capabilitie or performance with routine usage. The M1 is just an a14 with more cores slapped on it anyways...
Reserving control over the efficiency cores, and locking in four additional performance cores for baseline OS management is all you'd really need, so I think you'd be wasting money adding efficiency cores.
@@t.a.7970 Apple is weird. They've long placed themselves in the "Premium" gear camp while low-balling h/w during the Intel era. I will say this, though... I've got all of my old Apple gear for the last 40 years or so, and most works. I've got maybe a 3rd of my PC gear from that same time period, and most of it's useless. I've always spent more on Apple gear, but I've almost always gotten a lot more value out of it in comparison, and it doesn't just come down to build quality.
It's kind of getting to the point where it's an overkill.What is the point of having that many graphic core's if you can't play AAA Game titles unless you edit a lot of Videos?
It’s not overkill. Developers just need to get off their ass and port their games over. Also, MacOS is primarily a productivity machine. It’s basically made for Professionals and Developers like myself.
Thats chicken and egg situation - The reason you never had any AAA games was fact that hardware was to weak, so now you have decent hardware and devs have incentive to port their games to use it.
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I'll say this again, I have said it before. Jony Ives! Since he has left Apple, it's like a completely different design philosophy. Apple has stopped trying to come up absurd designs that affect the functional user experience of the actual product. All the things you mentioned i.e. MacPro Trashcan, Magic Mouse, No ports, Touchbar all decisions that are being rolled back to get the actual functional experience better. And for once, I'm loving this new Apple!
I've also made that conclusion. He left in 2019. LITERALLY after he left, we started getting much more functional design. He left and we immediately started seeing better Macbook Pros that actually fit the Pro name. We got iPhones that actually do shit and are able to hold their own against Android phones respectively in all aspects.
Wow you are so right!! I never thought about that. Mac design/performance was such a step back from 2016-2019
And now apple is making thicker, more efficient products with insane performance. Absolutely loving it!!
It's possible and it appears that way but I would imagine Apple thinking a lot further into the future when it comes to products. It's not like they design everything they showed in the past year or so. But at any rate, as long as we benefit, I don't care what happens.
He’s still doing work for,Apple from his own company. In fact, Apple remains his largest customer. So,we really don’t know what he’s done for,them since he’s left. He’s also don’t some of the very best work Apple ever did.
Jobs passed away too. He was all about aesthetics too.
M1 Ultra... Instinct? A chip so fast it processes without your input.
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best comment ever HAHAHAHA
You’re a dork…. And so am I. LOVE IT!
@@pr0ject25o1 If Apple doesn't go with the M1 Ultra Instinct or Ultra Magnus for it's Mac Pro, a little nerd-dork part of me will be devastated (though not surprised).
I'm tired of people complaining about the names Apple used. Just be thankful they're not using Sony style naming. The new chip could be called the "The Apple M1-PX-439-H2SSV4 chip!"
to be fair it would be more inline with playstation rather than their audio division
so Apple Chip 1 2, etc etc
Is that annoying for you. Do you call for help in forums to choose what color should you buy?
Exactly what we need, tech reviewers speaking about the product as is and not whining about the name of the product (also pointing @the verge)
lmao i died but u have a point 🫡
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The ultra is two pounds heavier because of the copper heat sink instead of aluminum.
In my opinion, I can deal with an extra pound as long as the machines is cooled properly. As we know, a proper cooled chip has extreme potential. What do you think?
Yep, clearly this was filmed before Apple answer the question.
@@clacorson the extra weight is worth it. It's a desktop computer not moving around many times.
It's two pounds heavier.
@@aninditabasak7694 Thanks, I fixed my previous comment.
Now with M1 Ultra, the “max” it’s not max anymore.
Max ie, maximum they can get from the M1 architecture. Ultra means beyond the limit - they had to stitch two chips together to achieve that.
@@ghas4151 it’s a good point
@@ghas4151 Smartass ...... leave some women for us
They should have called it the M1+ Ultra
@@ghas4151 Maybe the Mac Pro will get the M1 Ultra Duo
All i can think about is the new 27inch iMac we didnt get.
I feel like they are gonna call the m1 chip for the mac pro "M1 Goliath" and they are gonna make it just a bunch of m1 maxes fused together. I can totally see Apple doing this
2027: Apple comes out with the M1 Exodia, you need to have 5 different Apple products with the chip in in your hand order to activate it but once you draw them all in the same hand, you immediately win the duel.
@@oddmerit6530 LMAO
Surely they should call it the M1 Voltron “Extreme Form”
@@nicklaskowalski When they run out of those adjectives they'll just call it the "m1 sexy" !
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Wouldn't it be crazy if Apple had built in a wireless magsafe charger in the top of the Mac Studio, so you could charge your phone there while you're working on something? And maybe for heat management, the wireless charging only activates, if the NFC chip of the iPhone talks to the magsafe system on the Studio when it detects that an iPhone is resting on its top... That would be nice imo
I think what they meant by “modular” is the addition of extra ports
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They meant “BYODKM” (Bring Your Own Display, Keyboard, and Mouse)
Extra ports, yes. A typical Mac Pro Tower will have quite a few extra cards installed in the back (video capture cards, for example). When Apple talks about this being a "Modular Setup", it's kinda like the original mac compared to PCs of the late 80 / early 90s… those modems, zip drives, etc, etc on a normal PC would have been installed internally by the user, whereas with these Modular Mac Desktops they're thunderbolt / USBC devices that connect in with a cable and sit somewhere else on the desk.
Really, it's the same theory apple used with the G4 cube, the trashcan Mac Pro, and the original iMac from 1998 where it was no longer possible to install expansion cards inside your Macintosh.
@@waltonks8172 yeah that’s what they meant but calling it modular is dumb and misleading bc by that logic, all computers minus all-in-ones are modular when you can plug them into a display. “Modular” implies you can change the components in the mac studio so they shouldn’t have presented it like that
@@extra4542 Agree
M1 is the generation. There are four models of M1 so far, and max is one of them. Once all M1 models Are launched, M2 will be launched. It is a very clever way to manage product variations. If you buy M1 ultra today, M2 will come soon, which is less in performance, so customers will not feel bad. So it will take more than a year for a model to become old generation.
Apple could have a BM and some people would say it was very clever
@@deViant14 Apple's success is not by luck but they are not angels also.
the option with the m1 ultra version has a copper heat sink instead of an aluminum heat sink in the m1 max version.
I can imagine these being the center of extremely high end studio workstations.
Imagine the amount of tracks running with stacks of effects in pro tools and logic pro.
A squid of thunderbolt docks coming out the back and routing to all the cables, as God intended it really.
Funny I think thin clients are the way God intended professional work. Certainly more scalable.
@@deViant14 I can agree with that.
If only Apple would support MST we could daisy chain between monitors. Instead we are forced to plug every monitor into the back of the Studio. Maybe this is a feature they are holding back for second revision of Apple Silicone? Also missing from their display is a second Thunderbolt to achieve daisy chaining on their displays.
I really think we might get a "X1" instead of a M series chip for the Mac Pro considering they might have to redesign the Max chip for more Ultra Fusion links in order to attach more dies together.
Edit: This moniker could work well as it replaces the "Xeon" chips
Edit 2: This could be very likely now
If I remember it correctly, they said in the March event, that M1 Ultra is the last M1 chip. What I think is, that they are gonna redesign the M1 Max die with the latest features, that came from an A16 and then interconnect four of those redesigned M1 dies together to create a single chip, possibly called X1. The multithreaded performance is going to be unparalleled while they are going to beat both Intel's and AMD's chips in single threaded work loads for the next two years. Also, I think, that the top tier Mac is going to feature high speed cores only and use the A16 architecture with higher clocks. In my opinion, this is the most reasonable next step even when you consider game theory. If they are capable of delivering higher single threaded workloads they should deliver them as soon as possible, preferably in their top tier product using a distinct branding. X1 would sound fire.
@@jurajchobot possible but the M is for Mac so I think it could be MX1 or just MX Gen 1
@@mk_mason Ya most probably, but I was just thinking about it, they could probably use the "X" in line with the Xeon chips offered in the current Mac Pro. As in it would make more sense if they addressed it by saying that the X moniker replaces the "Xeon" in terms of a new performance standard and a differentiator like with Intel.
@@jurajchobot It really depends on the release schedule, if it's June/July it's gonna use the M1 arch, if it's late this year or next year, it might use M2 arch. But I do think that they might use the M2 arch base and use that to form derivatives that go into the macbooks, iPads and the Mac Studio moving forward, almost like a trickle down effect.
They should really make a special chip for the pros alone just like the Xeon was, something to distinguish it from all the others
Please call Dev2D on your studio.. everyone would love ❤️ if MKBHD and Dev talk on new stuff.
Knowing Apple, the next level M1 chip may be called M1 Ultra Max, which is basically four M1 Max slapped together.
This seems so powerful... why even wait for the Mac Pro? What the hell will that be?
M 1 Hyper
The new Mac Studio tops out at 128GB of RAM. For an average desktop user, that’s huge.
But the current Mac Pro tops out at 1.5TB of RAM. Similar PC workstations top out at 2TB of RAM and we’re on the verge of having workstations that top out at 4TB of RAM.
For the computing tasks that require that much RAM, the Mac Studio isn’t powerful.
Now their users can scroll their social media even faster I guess
Mac Studio is modular according to Apple? I guess iPhones are also modular, since you can nowadays choose your own charger!
lol, anything except a one single unit is modular according to apple
Just listen to what Apple actually said... they NEVER said the Mac Studio is modular...
Apple said that many want a modular system and display so that they can get the perfect setup for them. Which literally just meant that the Mac and its Display are no longer in one body but two separate devices...
Well the Studio is modular because it's not an AiO like the 27-inch 5k iMac which it is replacing. You can choose your own peripherals, accessories or in other words BYODKM(Bring your own display, keyboard and mouse).
M1 MacBook Air is still the best laptop or a computer device in the market & this is coming from a developer. For example I can use Xcode, Chrome and Visual studio C simultaneously even now. So, If you are looking high performance laptop just by MacBook Air and rest are just hype numbers.
Yup. Agreed.
Super glad that i bought that.. and people be like: lets play valorant💀.. anyways i dont like windows laptop that lasts 3 hrs💀💀💀
And i dont like gaming 💀💀💀
Does modularity mean you can connect as many mac studio boxes together as you want?
but is it more powerful than the mk ultra chip? that one has served me flawlessly for years and I really don't feel like upgrading yet.
At this point I feel like the graph choices are intentional to say “hey, don’t believe our graphs too much but this is what we were able to find internally”
When Apple finally comes out with a front facing port design “Macmini”, why on earth would you think of putting the box as a backpack on the display? Kind of defeats the reason for the design… Might as well wait and get an iMac pro with the M1 ultra (which is bound to come out one day, probably later in the year or next year) …
It looks alright , one thought comes to mind , with those small perforations around the bottom for the air inlet , how long is it going to take for dust to choke it up , not all environments are clinical dust free areas , and should we need to blow it out internally , how do we go about it , does it have a removable plate on the base ?
Good point
@@tpf352 Thank you .
I have been using Windows machines for about 25 years and am now using a mac book pro for the first time as UK businesses are dishing them out as a 'perk'. So the hardware is pretty good, battery life good, nice screen, etc. But the software is appalling. OSX is just not a mature operating system compared to Windows. So many keyboard shortcuts are 3 or 4 keys!! I can't find a half decent free image editor. There's sooo many bugs everywhere. I am in hell!!
The next step: two M1 Ultras together.
🙂
Calling this TINY thing "tall" is quite the flex. Seriously. This thing is nothing but extremely small. The Mac Studio is probably less than HALF the smallest Windows PC you can get that has usable amount of power. Let alone a PC that has as much power as this thing throws on the table. A similar powered Windows PC would need a GPU that by itself is almost twice as big in volume than the entire Mac Studio.
Nah ryzen integrated graphics have rly improved lately due to the gpu crisis
@@bamb8s436 Improved somewhat, but not even close to the level of a desktop 3090 which is Apple's claims with the M1 Ultra.
How would the M1 on the Mac Pro would be named? M1 UltraMax, omega? Sort of feels like competition with the Primes of transformers lolz.
M1 Alpha Male
Apple said that the M1 Ultra is the last chip of the lineup so I would say that it will have just the exact same M1 Ultra. But in a bigger body for more and real modularity.
The M1 Ultra is literally 2 M1 Max chips but they still gave it its own name so there's no way they would do 4 M1 Max chips but not give it its own name. And the design of the M1 Max doesn't even allow 4 chips. They only have one connector at the bottom.
But there's also no way that the Mac Pro will feature an M2 chip of some sort because that would mess up the ENTIRE naming scheme.
That is why I was joking on the name thing. Just want them to release it and see how it goes lolz :)
M1 Sigma
I'm guessing M1 ultimate
Apparently, online people think the "Modularity" is the IO, with the large selection of ports. I guess we'll have to wait to see what they mean by "modularity".
We don’t have to wait and see. It’s blindingly obvious. There is no internal expansion of any kind. You buy a particular configuration and that’s it. The only way it’s different from a non-modular iMac is that the monitor is separate. That’s it.
@@williamp6800 OK. I was just curious.
"Modular" here meant relative to iMacs. Basically pair your own computer with external monitor (Studio Display) instead of everything in an all-in-one like the iMac 27". It's basically them trying to justify killing the iMac 27" lineup. But yeah the terminology is misleading at best.
When he says "modular" he's comparing it to a MacBook and talking about peripherals (display, keyboard, input device).
It's a matter of perspective and a completely valid use of the word even if it's not the kind of modularity we'd all prefer. External vs internal modularity.
I agree. Its certainly more modular than an iMac which you basically have to give/throw away even though it has a perfectly good display that you may want to keep. Modularity doesn't always mean being able to open the thing up to add things.
My concern is that the fan seems to be burried and difficult to service and clean. There also doesn’t seem to be any prefiltation. So that is going to be an ongoing problem of cleaning by design. Am I wrong?
iphone 14 pro max ultra
I can see that iphone 14 ultra coming
Modular because you can make every peripheral the same shape and stack them together in a tower, you can stack a few computers into a supercomputer.
That feeling when a monitor has a more powerful SOC than the Apple TV
I love all the Dave2D shout outs.
I thought the "modularity" claim would manifest into an endlessly stackable system. Like.... physically stacking macs on each other. But it would require some form of an "Ultra-Connect" cable to tap into that Ultra-Fusion Architecture and actually realize such a "modular" system.
Well, maybe the next one will be called M1 Extreme, 2 M1 Ultra.
Doubt it.
I think they're done with their naming here.
M
M Pro
M Max
M Ultra
Apple said on the keynote that the M1 Ultra is the last chip of the lineup. And there's no way that the chip in the Mac Pro will be M2 because that would mess up the entire naming scheme.
@@Raja995mh33 It's possible that Mac Pro gets its own name designation for its chipset. Separate from the M2. I'm guessing it's gonna be the 4-Die version of the 2-Die M1 Ultra, but with a modified chip that makes the base different from M1 Max, but they're gonna name it something different. Like M Extreme or MX, or something. Sort of like Intel Xeon, a specific name for the top of the line
randomly clicked on this video while another one was playing and my god the difference in quality is jarring. the audio is so ~crisp~
Now would actually be the prime time for Apple to jump into the server market. A non-GUI version of MacOS, run exclusively on their server hardware, running M1 chips. The chips are perfect for server architecture. Fast, minimal heat, and low-powered. They've competed with Windows/PC for ever, and are killing it. Now it's time to look in the direction of Linux and offer competition for that market (big-business server) too.
FWIW - the weight difference between the studio max and ultra is due to a copper heat sync on the Ultra and an aluminum heat sync on max version. This has been known for a few days already. Can’t believe yall weren’t aware.
this was their first reaction video, and the video has been out for a few days, this is a clip from that video, why do you think they are obligated to know this?
Yo relax bro lol
I’m looking forward to the next CPU: the M1 Max Pro Ultra. 😂 In the new Mac Pro.
M1 Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
😅😅 Love the name
@@laurencegr9978 🤣
@@sinlokemp thank you. 😊
after doing it "subscription added" - "subscription removed" kept popping up in the left bottom corner for a solid 15 sec at least...
I think for the Mac Pro chip that comes out fusing M1 Ultra’s together should be called something like the M1 Exclusive or M1 Signature
Wait... Can anyone tell me when did pewdiepie roasted mkbhd's setup?
I am looking forward to the M1 Ultra stress tests. Also, I'm pretty sure people will still need to add a hub or Thunderbolt doc to fit a bunch of their current stuff, unless they go out and purchase new stuff. Apple is good for convincing you to go buy new stuff to fit the new thing you just bought from them LOL! Also, the modularity could mean using the Studio in render farms or datacenters. Consider 1 studio as 1 complete module. Buy 1000 of them at a discount and have a small efficient supercomputer that rivals what we already have. Buy 10000 for 40 million, and have the worlds fastest, most efficient supercomputer. Yes, consider 1 Studio, as 1 module.
Well I understand that for small time miners and enterprises you could do this, but supercomputers of 100+petaFLOPS all have custom made boards that can fit 30+ processors each, which are mounted in server racks that can hold a good amount of these boards. You are talking about thousands of cpus dedicated to processing power.
There’s no amount of Macs, regardless of generation or power, than can hold a candle to a supercomputer
@@qwertpoiuy430 - TH-cam keeps removing my response to you. Please look up the Apple G5 Supercomputer at Virginia Tech. They already did what I was referring to, and with this new stuff, I am looking forward to someone doing it again. If I had a million dollars to donate to my Alma Mater FAMU, I would build one and fund a few students education too. Also check out Macstatdium.
@@michaelbyrd4004 The G5 Supercomputer doesn't hold a candle to any modern day Supercomputers, it was only #3 in the month it debuted because supercomputers back then were just hundreds of computers acting as nodes. That isn't how (most) of them work today, and the fastest ones that exist today aren't even made by Intel or AMD or any consumer brand chipmaker, they're made by companies that literally only make supercomputers and similar tech.
Hey but 12 south could make a mount that hooks it to the stand on the studio display. So you can reach the button still easy and not actually behind the monitor, but attached to the stand.
Why can't all companies make their PC's power supply external in order to lower the weight & size of the PC?
Is there a clip of PewDiePie reacting to MKBHD's setup??
Pro, Max, Ultra,... By biggest problem is it's not immediately clear which is best. If it were me I'd copy the anniversary hierarchy, so have M1 paper, M1 iron, M1 Silver, M1 Gold , M1 platinum, etc
I always believed they shouldve sold the trashcan mac pro alongside the tower mac pro. Now my dream is finally coming true.
The trash can Mac Pro was a failure do to a flawed design that created overheating issues.
@@redsoxers thx captain obvious
@@dgw4049 Well “genius”, if it was a flawed product why would they sell it alongside its replacement? Logic isn’t your strong suit, is it kid?
@@redsoxers if they had not attempted to replace the tower with the cylinder form factor they would not have had to cram so much heat into such a small form factor. It wouldve been the compact mid range device they now clearly understand they have lacked basically forever. Every other computer company has a mid range desktop. Apple basically builds a Ford Escape (mini) and an Expedition (mac pro) and now they finally have an Explorer (studio). The trash can was an Explorer but they thought it was the Expedition.
You can buy spiral conduit to cable manage behind desk to ground, so you have just a 1 to 2 foot lead from PC to behind desk, then run conduit down to last few feet where cables split off to various plugs.
Think about the thunderbolt ports are all hub ports, so with the max you can take the back four 40GBps ports to sixteen 40GBps ports!
On the ultra that’s 6 to 24 full speed thunderbolt ports!!
This is why I hate tech. The new thing will ALWAYS be better.
Literally the day before the announcement my boss told me they ordered a new Mac Pro for me to use and all I can think is how they could’ve saved so much more money and (most likely) had a better computer if they just waited and asked me.
I’m a graphic designer so the current Mac Pro will be fine and I love the look of it but I’d like to see how long the support for these go when I know the M1 computers will keep getting support for years to come
You can probably still sent it back tho
@@Mopsie this
ASK HIM TO SEND IT BACK,
They are truly prepping for virtual reality with these nuts GPUs. We need 8k for good AR and VR so these computers will really allow creators to make the new age media!
not true. 8k is technically 4 times the amount of pixels of 4k (it sounds odd but it really is. look it up.) 4k with good antialiasing per-eye displays would be a mere fraction of the pixel count of 8k in each eye, and indistinguishable in quality difference due to the PPI we are dealing with here. this is theoretically will be light work for the m1 ultra though.
@@funknugget6334 that makes sense. What I’m imagining virtual reality being is not goggles but high quality displays like the current XDR display. I believe our brains will be perfectly okay with “bezels” for our virtual reality experience. 4K(or higher quality) processing will be essential for building and interacting with these worlds. Let me know what you think!
@@funknugget6334 I’ve seen 8k, and there is no question that it’s better. The 20/20 eye can definitely distinguish the difference. 8k will be a AR/VR standard. I doubt society will demand more than 8k, but there are already 12k cameras and more!.
VR is never getting wide adoption. It's not the pixel density that is the problem, it's that focal length of the eye is a critical cue for depth perception and it's utterly missing in VR where you're just staring into infinity the whole time, but weirdly things that are just "feet away" are still in focus. Half the population is nauseated and there are no feasible solutions.
@@codediporpal thats one of my points, NO headsets in the future. If you happen to have access to one of the new ipads with the mini led (or the macbooks) try turning off all the lights in the room so it's pitch black. Then watch a youtube video by veritasium. My experience was incredible. Truly felt like I was in the video because of his use of 3D effects. felt like VR to me without a headset
Hey Marques! been following you since your NEXUS 5 review! Just commenting to say enjoying your videos more and more and they've been very helpful! Thanks
Us creatives are sometimes computer 'geeks' but not usually. We just want to do our work as fast as possible, and these new Studio Macs fit the bill with no upgrades. I think they totally get us, finally.
Off subject, I’ve been listening to podcasts the past few hours with some headphones.. and the quality of richness of your podcast is mind blowing. Well done 👏🏻
Question: Please tell us when using the Photoshop Magic Brush, is there any difference in performance between the Mac Studio Max Vs Ultra? The Magic brush uses GPU power so it should be much better on the Ultra. Thanks
Modular? They should have made this like a nuc. When the m2 or m3 systems come, let you swap out your existing m1 ultra board, reuse chassis + psu + heatsink.
I reckon "Godlike" will be the moniker attached to the die they put in the Pro.
M2 Collosus (named after the movie computer), M2 Nexus, M2 Black, M2 Platinum, M2 Crimson, M2 Crescendo, M2 Royale...
Ed from Tech Source said he would help out with Cable management if you need it
I wish it was the m1 pro max ultra
Apple in 2077: M1 Blue Eyes White Dragon
I dont know about you guys but the lack of upgradability or even parts exchange in case of failure just does not rub me the right way.
I’m thinking a under-mount for a desk setup would be super badass u can keep your access in the front for sd card slot and might have better cooling. As well
Is this thing gonna go inside a laptop if not whats it gonna do with that efficiency.
If you consider this to be the replacement for the iMac Pro then the ‘system’ it is replacing includes the display, and this is more modular than that.
Missing space grey line on those new products
maybe they'll double that again for the Mac Tower and since they're "borrowing" names maybe theyll call it Quattro
Why do I feel like Ive seen this video before but its saying it was only uploaded today? Am I crazy?
They are taking things to a whole new level.
I wish they would of put the headphone jack on the front of the mac studio... They used to do it back in the day...... Just makes it easier
@08:50 Why not just mount the mac pro underneath the desk?
"Literally" oh "literally" yea, "LITerally" and "literally"
Can’t get the chip for anything but apples, and the prices are absurd. Pretty much useful to no one except Mac users, so relevant to very few.
What's the point to mounting it in the back if the sd card is in the front 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤯
When did the Mac mini have an sd card slot?
The M1 Ultra is heavier than the Max because of the cooling system made of copper.
Greetings
Call it "Barney" for all I care. Barney's amazing. Barney's great stuff.
Joshua Weissman definitely had something to do with the thicccc 4 C's
Unless you're in the niche vertical market that will make use of it it's rather meaningless though. Take the M1 iPad. No reason to put the M1 in an iPad except as a marketing tool. For 2/3 of users the M1 MacBook Air is already perfect, ports aside. Techies love big numbers but it's more important to know if you'll use those numbers. Its why despite Apple on ARM Windows and Android are doing just fine.
What other chip would they put in the ipad?
@@rowanstrang8072 a15 like the iPad Mini.
Well, there could be a lot of reasons why. For instance, due to IC shortages surrounding the iPad lineup, this change could possibly alleviate strain on the supply chain. The M1 reduced the need for many discrete ICs on the Mac PCB, I don’t immediately see why it couldn’t also do the same for the iPad Air PCB. This is great news for those seeking a base model iPad.
But putting speculation aside, at least the retail price hasn’t increased.
@@herb414 So… you’re asking why they aren’t giving you less?
@@gagec6390 what are you realistically going to notice between the two chips on a mobile OS? The a15 is more power efficient anyways. Pretty sure no consumer could see a difference in capabilitie or performance with routine usage. The M1 is just an a14 with more cores slapped on it anyways...
is it still better value for money to build a comparable PC in 2022?
Weight difference is due to copper v aluminium for the heat sink in the ultra
apple has confirmed that we're talking copper vs aluminum for cooling, that's why the weight difference (M1 MAX vs M1 Ultra).
M1X a visualization of the interconnected chips in the top tier performer. Just a guess.
Now imagine apple designing the M1 ultra as a single chip and merging them together with another M1 ultra for even faster performance
Keep that intake clean. A vacuum absent of air is a great insulator.
You need to check the EQ on your voice. There's a very awful rumble on the low ends. Especially with good headphones, it's hard to listen to.
Reserving control over the efficiency cores, and locking in four additional performance cores for baseline OS management is all you'd really need, so I think you'd be wasting money adding efficiency cores.
@@t.a.7970 Apple is weird. They've long placed themselves in the "Premium" gear camp while low-balling h/w during the Intel era. I will say this, though... I've got all of my old Apple gear for the last 40 years or so, and most works. I've got maybe a 3rd of my PC gear from that same time period, and most of it's useless. I've always spent more on Apple gear, but I've almost always gotten a lot more value out of it in comparison, and it doesn't just come down to build quality.
It's kind of getting to the point where it's an overkill.What is the point of having that many graphic core's if you can't play AAA Game titles unless you edit a lot of Videos?
it's the most capable gaming computer without any games :(
It’s not overkill. Developers just need to get off their ass and port their games over. Also, MacOS is primarily a productivity machine. It’s basically made for Professionals and Developers like myself.
many people use Macs for rendering editing, many controls towers even use Macs, its basically used for everything but gaming
I wish that companies will start to make Mac games, now that the user base is growing and an average mac is being more performant.
Thats chicken and egg situation - The reason you never had any AAA games was fact that hardware was to weak, so now you have decent hardware and devs have incentive to port their games to use it.
Yes, modular. What was that about I was expecting things to slot out and replace parts but your right I guess the IO was the only modular parts lol.
I think that the ¨Modular¨Mac they were talking about in the presentation is actually the upcoming M1 Mac Pro.
There will be one more chip for the Mac Pro which will be 2x M1 Ultra.. That could be the M1 Extreme. (Jace 4C-Die)
In 5 years Apple will have Apple Quantum MacBooks
1st one to mac a polycarbonate enclosure reminiscent of the Apple-cube without compromising thermals and I/O for the mac studio wins.
it is modular. if the ssd fails you can keep the monitor