Producers feeding her all the way as well. Of course they want the drama. Kinda sad to see her talking to them here so innocent. Girl they’re not here to give you healthy advice. They’re here to make drama and money :(
Makes me wonder how much influence the producers have? We don’t normally get to see behind the scenes stuff like this. Maybe this happens more than we know.
I don’t think you realize she really likes him, has deep emotions for him and fell for him quickly and if you ever been in that situation before you would know it’s not that easy
They wasted too much time on this drama.. She has several amazing men to choose from and she is wasting her time with this guy.. I'm surprised more of them haven't left yet..
She’s not ignoring the red flags. 🚩She’s aware of them as she’s mentioned several times. Her mistake is thinking it’s something that can be worked through. She keeps trying but she’s just wasting her time. I think she’s finally starting to realize that. I laughed when she said “Let’s go look at this ___ castle.” She sounded really fed up! 😂
Agreed, everything he says has no substance. Out of the entire date, all I remember is him saying the word clarity over and over again. I Hope she sees his true colours soon bc its frustrating to see him manipulate her. I think the producers are making her keep him on bc I just don't get how she can still be into this douche, especially when guys like Tyler C and Peter are on the show lol.
@@57andstillkicking yeah,i saw that interview by Chris too. he said that they connected a lot because of their faith, that makes a lot more sense as to why he's there for so long bc i don't get the vibe that any of the other guys are as religious as Hannah. I'm so annoyed by how they're editing this season. If you're going to show Luke so much, at least show the connection between Luke and Hannah so we're not confused why she's keeping his dumbass for so long!. they're being super stupid for making the bachelorette the luke show, all my friends said they would skip next episode, the only reason im not is bc im a huge hannah b fan but im done w this season.
Hannah is right about the whole ‘all we talk about is deep stuff’ I agree, it’s constantly I love you, I care about you not as playful or relaxed.. always so intense
she actually meant that its just shallow words...that are packaged as deep and meaningful. But she doesn't know any of the deeper stuff about him like what he's actually like and all.
It makes me irritated watching it that she ignores all the signs . Maybe he isnt as bad of a guy as he is made out to be , but he isnt the guy for her (I think its Tyler ) but she will realize eventually
Luke P. isn't pyscho. He's arrogant, used to getting his own way, un self-aware, overly competitive and can't turn it off-hence his butting heads with the guys. I also don't think he understands that Hannah is a real person- not an idea. He decided she's who he wants and he's gonna win her other guys be damned and he's trying to win her by feeding her what he thinks she wants hear- even though they have zero emotional compatibility. And he's familiar to her. Like the guys she's likely dated in the past and she's attracted to him and trying to make it work...as one does at 24. She'll let him go...eventually but in another setting, she'd probably date him for awhile before realizing he is who he is and isn't going to be who she wants/needs him to be. Thank goodness she's got other guys like Tyler there or she may have ended up with a guy like Luke.
gulc04 not a psycho. Likely a sociopath not to mention a bit narcissistic who has trouble with emotion and everything he does is a manipulation to get what he thinks he should have or want. He takes no accountability and twists words. When you really listen to him he doesn’t really say anything at all! He just repeats what Hannah says to him and gaslights every situation he’s in!
gulc04 I think you’re right. When she realizes he’s like the mistakes she’s made in the past it will be an epiphany. We saw this with other bachelorettes like Rachel.
He is not a psychopath, but he is definitely a narcissist. It’s hard for people to differentiate personality disorders, so they automatically label people as a “psycho.” And although I get it, “don’t diagnose someone over the internet,” he shows all the signs of narcissistic personality disorder. People with NPD have this “picture perfect” idea in their head, and nobody will ever satisfy that. He’s obsessed with the way she makes him feel. It has nothing to do with her-only how she makes him feel. Although it seems innocent at this stage, these relationships often turn abusive. He’s incredibly possessive and lacks empathy. He talks in circles and doesn’t actually listen to what she’s really saying-meaning it doesn’t register in his head. Don’t be mistaken though, people with NPD are just as dangerous as psychopaths. The red flags are not clear to most people in the beginning stages.
I think Hannah had already decided that Luke was “the one” from the beginning and doesn’t want to accept that she could be wrong . She seems to be trying in every way she can to get him to be that person she wants him to be.
I think that to. We could all se the Magic passionated connection between them in the beginning. I think that they both are in love. But both are afraid, Luke has hes walls up and Hannah is afraid that he dont feel the same.
When you have amazing men like Tyler C, Jed, Peter, Connor S, Mike and Garret, HOW can you be this desperate for a man like this? Never has the bachelorette had so many good picks to choose from. Makes me so annoyed haha!
It is not just attraction. Luke is the only man there who she can talk to about their common faith. They have had deep conversations about that but it hasn’t been shown. Chris Harrison shared all of that in an interview. You can bet that they will show those conversations only if they become negative because that fits in with the narrative they have laid out.
Seriously! Every episode has been putting so much focus into Luke P. I understand that he's the "villain" of this season but god damn. There are other men in the house it's not just him.
That is because the other men are more obsessed with Luke P than Hannah. They all kind of wish they were him. I suspect some of these men are bisexual. Remember how well Mike twerked in a speedo? That was not his first time.
Because of the guys. They should be focus on hannah and let psycho luke p be himself cause sooner or later she is going to see the real luke. If she doesn’t then she deserves luke p and none of the other guys.
He's emotionally immature, still loads of growing up to do. Maybe it's the editing but he dodges most of her questions because he's not emotionally equipped to answer them. He will definitely get the boot soon, so hopefully he will use this as a learning experience and first find himself.
This is starting to remind me of the Cassie and Colton situation. Despite hearing so many red flags about Cassie from the other women, Colton decided to keep her week after week because he was in love with her and was just waiting for her to say the right things. Hannah is just making more excuses for Luke P. She doesn't want to get rid of him because she obviously really likes him and she's waiting for him to change. That is her biggest mistake. You never want to wait for anybody to change. Plus is this the Hannah show or the Luke P show? Because every episode so far has been focused on Luke... Really starting to get tiring and I might not even watch anymore if this continues.
You are right...but Cassie isn't a sociopath being violent with other women and faking a whole relationship to win over Colton. Cassie NEVER saw I love you much less on the first date. Cassie always told her real feelings. This guy is actually dangerous and hannah is getting so many more red flags.
dammee I don’t think she’s right at all. Luke P is personality disordered, Cassie is not. Not even close to the same situation. I agree with everything else you said.
I love Hannah as the Bachelorette. She’s smart and she calls people out in their shit. The only reason she kept this going was because she was so infatuated with him at the beginning and she wants to keep believing that’s how he is
Who amongst us hasn't chased a guy trying to get him to be who we think he can be/ want him to be? You learn as you grow- don't waste your time on potential. People are who they are. I think she's learning through this process. I like her a lot.
She’s probably caught up with the suspense of him, not realizing he won’t open up about himself and the deep real communication for life will be absent from someone like him. There’s a shallowness. In real life there will be down periods and if he is nothing but talk and on self rather than others in deep caring and connection, in principles....it’ll be an empty relationship....as in acting, not authentic.
I see people are confused in the comments so I’ll clear things up to people who don’t get it. He’s a narcissist, and most likely has narcissistic personality disorder. I think it’s very obvious to those who have been there. It’s not “emotional immaturity” or that he’s just young, it’s a personality disorder. People with NPD are incredibly manipulative and often are abusive towards their partners after the honeymoon stage. They say everything you want to hear, because they don’t know how to be authentic. They have this perfect idea in their head of what a relationship should be, but it’s literally impossible to achieve the perfection a person with NPD expects. He literally doesn’t know how to be his true self. He just wants to “win” her over. I’m glad she’s picking up that something is wrong, but she can’t pinpoint it and may not. It’s extremely confusing when you’re in it. I did the same when I met my ex husband, to the point where I would constantly confront him and ask why I’m not really getting to know him. He was so charming though and knew how to manipulate me. I knew something was off from the beginning though-trust your instincts. If you’re a single woman reading this, educate yourself on personality disorders, specifically NPD. Maybe you won’t end up in that type of relationship, but if you do, you won’t know what’s happening unless you’re aware of the red flags. How Luke P is acting is not normal and Hannah is picking up on that.
This is why the concept of 'the one' is so damaging. It makes us hold on to people that are not good for us because we are afraid that we are 'supposed to be with them.' When you realise that the idea of 'the one' is holding you back, you will be free to choose people who suit you a lot more and you will create a happier life together.
If it’s this hard at the beginning why is she trying so hard? It’s one thing if they were together for years and then had a rough patch but why starting on a bad foot?? I don’t get it
Infatuation she wants to believe in who she thinks he really is or who he could be instead of seeing him at face value. Been there done that never again
Listening to Luke P talk makes me want to stick my head in the blender. Hannah seems a bit immature and doesn’t seem to realize that falling in love is fun and exciting. Not confusion and drama right off the bat.
Amen Holly love should make you happy feel butterflies forget about all your troubles.. I see that with her and tyler and peter and Mike .. they just dont have compatibility and its easy to see
At this point I don't feel sorry for Hannah,she seems slow(My opinion) or she likes him so much that she doesn't want to see the signs. He has taken every other person's time too.
I'm getting annoyed by her too but I just think it's hard for her to let go off him bc their initial chemistry was so intense and since he also had the first impression rose. Def listen to the podcast she did with Nick Viall. It gives a lot of insight to why he's still there, I think she has a problem with thinking she can change a guy to becoming a better person.it also seems like the producers are encouraging her to keep him since they know he brings the drama.
Far more entertaining than most seasons in my opinion but I hope next episode has less Luke drama bevause I'm tired of hearing his name every two seconds aha
Too much effort on this 1 guy who deserves zero of Hannah, I don’t understand why she’s spending all this time on him🤷🏻♀️ it makes me angry too continue watching!! OMG she has too see and has too know especially after all the other guys are telling her what a POS💩he is!! Somebody tell me when he finally leaves and then I’ll watch the rest of the season!! I’m coming in hot and boiling mad becuz she’s got some really great guys who deserve her time instead of this boy!!
ALA Daum hey because it’s hard trauma bond relationship get it? :) it’s her original wounding in life, to deal with narcissists so she can’t have an easy time leaving. Been there done that that’s what people work on when they go to therapy. Hahhaha
@@jakepaulpound-for-pound9418 Hahaha trumps wall Good One. I Like Luke P so dont get me wrong, i think that Luke P is the one for Hannah. But he sure have some walls up. But Hannah should understand, she was just like that with Colton.
Hannah you're very smart, but he's not giving you what you want emotionally! You giving him a chance to save himself, but he lack conversation, love shouldn't be so stressful. Especially in the beginning. Red flag!! I love your strength, ❤❤good luck!!:
"Love" should NEVER be this hard love should be fun blissful.. happy and whimsical not frustrating and stress inducing. I feel irritated just watching this. I'm only 20 and I can see the red flags she needs to know her own worth . Seems to me that he is in love with the idea of her and she suffers from the same problem .
Holly McGrath Love is rarely blissful. Trust me, if you haven’t occasionally thought about killing the person you love as much as you have thought about dying for the person you live than you are not in true love. It’s rarely easy or simple. It can be a messy roller coaster and an incredible risk all at the same.
@@jakepaulpound-for-pound9418 I'm gonna have to disagree I think love when it's the right person isnt a cake walk but it's not like what you see in the clip where you cant even have any conversations with the person without it turning into a fight . Healthy disagreements every once in a while are normal but this honestly to me looks like shes babysitting him and neither can fully supply what the other wants. I think Luke is made out to be worse than he is but at the same time you shouldn't excuse abusive behavior because of it on both ends . I think its a total lack of compatibility
I think you can love a person who is sweet and stable OR a person who is a roller coaster ride of crazy... But YOUR life will be mostly peaceful or mostly rollercoaster, depending on what YOU value and on who you spend most of your time with. I'd pick a PEACEFUL attitude like grattitude within myself, and a peaceful partner!! Who needs the health problems that a bunch of drama produces? Not me.
@@christianone6611 I think you make a valid argument I think that its individual of the person what type of person you fall in love with .. but I think when two people are in love vs lust its easy to see .. they dont look at each other with love or passion really just angry frustration and hostility and I think it's easy to see they aren't right for each other
Hannah is time for you to grow up .Men in general are jealous if you see someone talk to you a this matter you're lucky. Or others never talk about because they don't care at all.That means they fix anything and let you the way you are without fine a good relationship and walk away all together.This topic sex is big and keep your mouth shut in this matter you can find later more trouble you can expect.
Why can't these people speak without using the word ''like''? Sounds ridiculous when she claims wanting to talk about something deeper and yet speaks like a fricking 5 year old...
Hannah: Can someone talk to him about what it means when I say how do you feel? Luke: It hurts me. Hannah: I don’t want to hear that. Audience: Well, what do you want Hannah? Because that’s him talking about his feelings.
@@joyh4 She literally said nothing about his race. And Luke P. is extremely obvious. He likes that she is a Southern, Christian beauty queen. He doesn't know her and he isn't even really trying to get to know who she really is. He clearly likes the idea of her and he's too young and arrogant to even try.
She has lost control of her show. She’s letting these guys overshadow her having any connection with any of them. She needs to send them home. She is wasting a lot of time☹️
I think eventually and very soon, Luke P is going to get sent home. I think Hannah is not used to of a guy being hard to express his emotions and so in some way is intrigued. I'm sure she feels some sort of deep connection with him that we all can't see. Also, everyone is hating on Luke P; who knows what his story is. He has his issues and maybe this show is a turning point for his life.
Luke p got looks but no brain like seriously at first I was rooting for him since he was genuine n sweet but now since the show progress luke reveals his true colors 1 his immature 2 too young don’t know what he wants 3 cocky/douchbag 4 being a liar 5 being a manipulative twisting his words trying to make himself innocent 6 lastly being fake showing no emotion plus I’m tired of him already stealing Hannah show everything revolves around him n what happened with the guys n Luke s like I never seen him talking his family niece n past relationship at all with Hannah Come on Hannah open your eyes on the next elimination don’t give him the rose he don’t deserve to be there or with u u have other guys diserve u n are worthy of u n make u happy unlike Luke who make u sad hurts n unhappy
Peter, Jed or Tyler for next Bachelor! The other guys aren't worth looking at! They can't keep out of the Luke P drama and they are bullies with the constant verbal abusing of Luke P.
Wake up Hannah before it's too late. Luke P. is doing nothing but lying to you. Hannah please send Luke P. home. He's a snake. I can't make it any plainer to you. He will hurt you so bad. Please wake up before you do something you will regret.
Honestly if it weren’t for the Luke S drama, this one on one definitely would have been the push they needed, but nah he had body slam him for some reason.... and everyone hating him set the tone for this date. Which sucks cause I think in a different real life setting these two could be a real couple. Just not on the show... right people but wrong place and time
Some men just aren’t that deep. This conflicted feeling is her answer. Usually the beginning of a relationship is supposed to be some of the best moments and look how rocky it’s been 😞
Perci M I believe she already knows his true colors, and at least she’s seeing it right now, unlike the others who portraying like so kind and sweet but the truth maybe they are far worst than him, imo.
Hannah, see the real men. Seriously, there are some men in your midst and there are insecure boys. Luke P. He's already said he wanted to leave because he wasn't getting enough attn.
that’s not what she said. She said “what if I let go of Luke but he’s who Im supposed to be with?” She’s probably thinking that because she gave him the first impression rose
A envelope with no letter. As a woman I know it is easy to keep digging where there is nothing. Please let go.what you are realizing it real trust me.let him go. No letter! No offense. Love you all
I think he just talks in circles, no real meaning behind his words, not getting to know each other, not having fun because hes so obsessed with getting her to feel a certain way about him... Hes not a real person, if he showed that, she would see manipulation, anger and hate
Years of eating junk food is finally taking a toll on Americans. The beauty standards of Americans have drastically declined and this show is a proof of that.
But Peter was a good person. Luke P. is only playing the game he doesn't know Hannah and he is not listening to her. He is not even trying to change for her.
I thought Hannah was a smart woman. But she's letting Luke P. Manipulate her all the time. Can't she see him for who he really is? I would hate to see her pick him. He's such a sneak and a liar. I hope she sees through him soon. Her life would be miserable with him. He hasn't been honest with her at all. He's not a good guy at all. He's such a fake and i don't think she sees that.
She seems like she mad at Luke p and still let’s him stay knowing he gonna start some more stuff! Like why?! Y’all haven’t had any good bonding time together... you sent jpj home and kept Luke p... Are you keeping him from what happening in the beginning of the season? Gosh I’m so confused why hes still in this show... I feel like if she’s watches episode 4 and see he was lying and still keeps Luke p...
Hannah doesn’t seem to realize it shouldn’t be this hard.
He's the one Wendy!
braxtomania 😒😒😒😠😠😠
@@braxtonlong9519 hmmm we'll see I think otherwise
That's every woman.
Producers feeding her all the way as well. Of course they want the drama. Kinda sad to see her talking to them here so innocent. Girl they’re not here to give you healthy advice. They’re here to make drama and money :(
Hannah really showed her immaturity by asking the producers to talk to him.
Right ? If you have to ask the producers to help you talk to him huge red flag
Makes me wonder how much influence the producers have? We don’t normally get to see behind the scenes stuff like this. Maybe this happens more than we know.
I think it was more so a rhetorical question
Josie Kurosky I don’t think so. She was super frustrated and practically begging them for help.
This is so sad to watch he is emotionally manipulating her. She is feeling and saying all the right stuff man this hurts
Everyone is to hard of Luke P. There is something there between them
Lmao it ain’t that deep sis. Just send him home
Exactly. Haha. Like wtf....the difference between a women and a man.
I don’t think you realize she really likes him, has deep emotions for him and fell for him quickly and if you ever been in that situation before you would know it’s not that easy
@@Glorias_finds I agree... But I also think she created the emotions in her head...he just wants her cookie
It’s not easy they had strong connection in the beginning!
These producers are just trying to keep him here longer saying “it takes time” mmmk sure
They wasted too much time on this drama.. She has several amazing men to choose from and she is wasting her time with this guy.. I'm surprised more of them haven't left yet..
Debra Carnahan s healthy man wouldn’t be attracted to a woman who spends this much time with Luke P. She clearly ignores red flags
She’s only ignoring the red flags because of her attraction to him. And to be honest most girls do that.
I don‘t think she will stuck with whoever she chooses
She’s not ignoring the red flags. 🚩She’s aware of them as she’s mentioned several times. Her mistake is thinking it’s something that can be worked through. She keeps trying but she’s just wasting her time. I think she’s finally starting to realize that. I laughed when she said “Let’s go look at this ___ castle.” She sounded really fed up! 😂
He’s so vague. And he’s spouting the formula he thinks he has to say. The stuff he says is circles
Agreed, everything he says has no substance. Out of the entire date, all I remember is him saying the word clarity over and over again.
I Hope she sees his true colours soon bc its frustrating to see him manipulate her. I think the producers are making her keep him on bc I just don't get how she can still be into this douche, especially when guys like Tyler C and Peter are on the show lol.
He. Is. A. Narcissist. Seriously though. They talk in scripts, he has no idea how to be authentic. It’s infuriating to talk to people with NPD.
Unfortunately they are not showing the deep conversations they do have, according to Chris Harrison, and that is aggravating.
@@57andstillkicking yeah,i saw that interview by Chris too. he said that they connected a lot because of their faith, that makes a lot more sense as to why he's there for so long bc i don't get the vibe that any of the other guys are as religious as Hannah.
I'm so annoyed by how they're editing this season. If you're going to show Luke so much, at least show the connection between Luke and Hannah so we're not confused why she's keeping his dumbass for so long!. they're being super stupid for making the bachelorette the luke show, all my friends said they would skip next episode, the only reason im not is bc im a huge hannah b fan but im done w this season.
Oh my goodness! I was trying to think what it was! He not saying anything just spouting the formula.. Excellent!!
Hannah is right about the whole ‘all we talk about is deep stuff’ I agree, it’s constantly I love you, I care about you not as playful or relaxed.. always so intense
Aaliyah x They should do a push-up challenge.
It's like brah how can you be so deeply in love if you never penetrated the surface
she actually meant that its just shallow words...that are packaged as deep and meaningful. But she doesn't know any of the deeper stuff about him like what he's actually like and all.
Girl u are wasting your time. Seriously
It makes me irritated watching it that she ignores all the signs . Maybe he isnt as bad of a guy as he is made out to be , but he isnt the guy for her (I think its Tyler ) but she will realize eventually
@@hollymcgrath1337
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Luke P. isn't pyscho. He's arrogant, used to getting his own way, un self-aware, overly competitive and can't turn it off-hence his butting heads with the guys. I also don't think he understands that Hannah is a real person- not an idea. He decided she's who he wants and he's gonna win her other guys be damned and he's trying to win her by feeding her what he thinks she wants hear- even though they have zero emotional compatibility. And he's familiar to her. Like the guys she's likely dated in the past and she's attracted to him and trying to make it work...as one does at 24. She'll let him go...eventually but in another setting, she'd probably date him for awhile before realizing he is who he is and isn't going to be who she wants/needs him to be. Thank goodness she's got other guys like Tyler there or she may have ended up with a guy like Luke.
gulc04 not a psycho. Likely a sociopath not to mention a bit narcissistic who has trouble with emotion and everything he does is a manipulation to get what he thinks he should have or want. He takes no accountability and twists words. When you really listen to him he doesn’t really say anything at all! He just repeats what Hannah says to him and gaslights every situation he’s in!
Tyler comes off like Luke but when he opens his mouth he is sweet and genuine I like Tyler
gulc04 I think you’re right. When she realizes he’s like the mistakes she’s made in the past it will be an epiphany. We saw this with other bachelorettes like Rachel.
yes! i think you analysed him perfectly! you should be a therapist
He is not a psychopath, but he is definitely a narcissist. It’s hard for people to differentiate personality disorders, so they automatically label people as a “psycho.” And although I get it, “don’t diagnose someone over the internet,” he shows all the signs of narcissistic personality disorder. People with NPD have this “picture perfect” idea in their head, and nobody will ever satisfy that. He’s obsessed with the way she makes him feel. It has nothing to do with her-only how she makes him feel. Although it seems innocent at this stage, these relationships often turn abusive. He’s incredibly possessive and lacks empathy. He talks in circles and doesn’t actually listen to what she’s really saying-meaning it doesn’t register in his head. Don’t be mistaken though, people with NPD are just as dangerous as psychopaths. The red flags are not clear to most people in the beginning stages.
“I wanna talk about whether you like macaroni and cheese or spaghetti more, you know the real stuff” I love hannah
I think Hannah had already decided that Luke was “the one” from the beginning and doesn’t want to accept that she could be wrong . She seems to be trying in every way she can to get him to be that person she wants him to be.
I think that to. We could all se the Magic passionated connection between them in the beginning. I think that they both are in love. But both are afraid, Luke has hes walls up and Hannah is afraid that he dont feel the same.
Perfect arm candy but a souless vessel harboring the spirit of jezebel ( narcissist)
When you have amazing men like Tyler C, Jed, Peter, Connor S, Mike and Garret, HOW can you be this desperate for a man like this? Never has the bachelorette had so many good picks to choose from. Makes me so annoyed haha!
Barchies Gurl Luke P is the realest.
It is not just attraction. Luke is the only man there who she can talk to about their common faith. They have had deep conversations about that but it hasn’t been shown. Chris Harrison shared all of that in an interview.
You can bet that they will show those conversations only if they become negative because that fits in with the narrative they have laid out.
@@57andstillkicking ahhhhh I wish we could see the raw footage that shows what theyre really like instead of this
Emma -
Yes!
This didn’t age well....
Change the name to The Luke P Show where Hanna tries to win his emotions cause that’s all this is...
Seriously! Every episode has been putting so much focus into Luke P. I understand that he's the "villain" of this season but god damn. There are other men in the house it's not just him.
The men are making it ALL about him.
@@crazycatlady2234 to be fair the other men are talking about Luke P kind of forcing the issue. They need to just not pay him any mind
That is because the other men are more obsessed with Luke P than Hannah. They all kind of wish they were him. I suspect some of these men are bisexual. Remember how well Mike twerked in a speedo? That was not his first time.
Because of the guys. They should be focus on hannah and let psycho luke p be himself cause sooner or later she is going to see the real luke. If she doesn’t then she deserves luke p and none of the other guys.
HANNAH he is not for you.
the "it takes time" shit means the producers are telling her to keep him for the ratings
Luke is a control freak and she knows it.
I cannot with him he makes me literally soooo mad like he's either a psychopath or.. like idk I do not understand him
Andre King He's a man who is used to expressing with the body not words. In olden times he would have been a knight.
He's emotionally immature, still loads of growing up to do. Maybe it's the editing but he dodges most of her questions because he's not emotionally equipped to answer them. He will definitely get the boot soon, so hopefully he will use this as a learning experience and first find himself.
Psychopath definitely
This is starting to remind me of the Cassie and Colton situation. Despite hearing so many red flags about Cassie from the other women, Colton decided to keep her week after week because he was in love with her and was just waiting for her to say the right things. Hannah is just making more excuses for Luke P. She doesn't want to get rid of him because she obviously really likes him and she's waiting for him to change. That is her biggest mistake. You never want to wait for anybody to change. Plus is this the Hannah show or the Luke P show? Because every episode so far has been focused on Luke... Really starting to get tiring and I might not even watch anymore if this continues.
You are right...but Cassie isn't a sociopath being violent with other women and faking a whole relationship to win over Colton. Cassie NEVER saw I love you much less on the first date. Cassie always told her real feelings. This guy is actually dangerous and hannah is getting so many more red flags.
@@dammee yes I agree. Two different people
dammee I don’t think she’s right at all. Luke P is personality disordered, Cassie is not. Not even close to the same situation. I agree with everything else you said.
Bro it’s Luke’s episode even after he gets sent home🤣🤣
I'm sorry but he is not real he is a bully, can no one see it , he is not marriage material she needs to wise up
I love Hannah as the Bachelorette. She’s smart and she calls people out in their shit. The only reason she kept this going was because she was so infatuated with him at the beginning and she wants to keep believing that’s how he is
Who amongst us hasn't chased a guy trying to get him to be who we think he can be/ want him to be? You learn as you grow- don't waste your time on potential. People are who they are. I think she's learning through this process. I like her a lot.
She’s probably caught up with the suspense of him, not realizing he won’t open up about himself and the deep real communication for life will be absent from someone like him. There’s a shallowness. In real life there will be down periods and if he is nothing but talk and on self rather than others in deep caring and connection, in principles....it’ll be an empty relationship....as in acting, not authentic.
She needs to stop saying things like "I don't know" and "I need more". Send the boy home and focus on the men!!!
Tyler and Peter are focusing on Hannah and wisely staying out of the drama.
I see people are confused in the comments so I’ll clear things up to people who don’t get it. He’s a narcissist, and most likely has narcissistic personality disorder. I think it’s very obvious to those who have been there. It’s not “emotional immaturity” or that he’s just young, it’s a personality disorder. People with NPD are incredibly manipulative and often are abusive towards their partners after the honeymoon stage. They say everything you want to hear, because they don’t know how to be authentic. They have this perfect idea in their head of what a relationship should be, but it’s literally impossible to achieve the perfection a person with NPD expects. He literally doesn’t know how to be his true self. He just wants to “win” her over. I’m glad she’s picking up that something is wrong, but she can’t pinpoint it and may not. It’s extremely confusing when you’re in it. I did the same when I met my ex husband, to the point where I would constantly confront him and ask why I’m not really getting to know him. He was so charming though and knew how to manipulate me. I knew something was off from the beginning though-trust your instincts. If you’re a single woman reading this, educate yourself on personality disorders, specifically NPD. Maybe you won’t end up in that type of relationship, but if you do, you won’t know what’s happening unless you’re aware of the red flags. How Luke P is acting is not normal and Hannah is picking up on that.
sara H exactly
Lol my thoughts exactly the entire time
Unfortunately you have to have been the to see how blatantly obvious his NPD is
This is why the concept of 'the one' is so damaging. It makes us hold on to people that are not good for us because we are afraid that we are 'supposed to be with them.' When you realise that the idea of 'the one' is holding you back, you will be free to choose people who suit you a lot more and you will create a happier life together.
Narcissists suck...He ain't all that. Seriously. Move on from the six pack...go for a real man...
If it’s this hard at the beginning why is she trying so hard? It’s one thing if they were together for years and then had a rough patch but why starting on a bad foot?? I don’t get it
Infatuation she wants to believe in who she thinks he really is or who he could be instead of seeing him at face value. Been there done that never again
She wants him to be someone he's not
Listening to Luke P talk makes me want to stick my head in the blender. Hannah seems a bit immature and doesn’t seem to realize that falling in love is fun and exciting. Not confusion and drama right off the bat.
HAha yes it’s very frustrating I’m squeezing the remote like say something man stop being such a robot 😆
Amen Holly love should make you happy feel butterflies forget about all your troubles.. I see that with her and tyler and peter and Mike .. they just dont have compatibility and its easy to see
Same. Ohmagosh.
"I need the real.." Real doesn't happen on reality tv y'all!
So true. People are always like "I want to find a real relationship", and I'm like "THEN WHAT THE CRAP ARE YOU DOING ON THE BACHELORETTE!?!".
There is absolutely nothing about Luke P to like except maybe a picture. She should just take a picture to look at and send the empty shell home
But he is literally trying to explain himself and she shuts down every single thing he does and says
But he repeats himself like hes some kind of robot
HANNAH OPEN YOUR EYES HES A ROBOT HE HAS NO EMOTIONS WHATS SO EVER GAHHH DONT BE BLIND 🤦🏽♀️
At this point I don't feel sorry for Hannah,she seems slow(My opinion) or she likes him so much that she doesn't want to see the signs.
He has taken every other person's time too.
I'm getting annoyed by her too but I just think it's hard for her to let go off him bc their initial chemistry was so intense and since he also had the first impression rose. Def listen to the podcast she did with Nick Viall. It gives a lot of insight to why he's still there, I think she has a problem with thinking she can change a guy to becoming a better person.it also seems like the producers are encouraging her to keep him since they know he brings the drama.
He's like her younger brother lol--he's no way mature enuf for her. She cud be better with a man in his 30s
plantec smiths your spelling skills kills me
This is childish lmao
i feel like hannah needs to read that "when people show u who they are, believe them" quote
stop trying to make Luke P happen Hannah
She is already emotionally tied to him and he can do what he wants
Crazy
He's narcissist.
This season is more raw then the other seasons!!!!
Far more entertaining than most seasons in my opinion but I hope next episode has less Luke drama bevause I'm tired of hearing his name every two seconds aha
Too much effort on this 1 guy who deserves zero of Hannah, I don’t understand why she’s spending all this time on him🤷🏻♀️ it makes me angry too continue watching!! OMG she has too see and has too know especially after all the other guys are telling her what a POS💩he is!! Somebody tell me when he finally leaves and then I’ll watch the rest of the season!! I’m coming in hot and boiling mad becuz she’s got some really great guys who deserve her time instead of this boy!!
ALA Daum hey because it’s hard trauma bond relationship get it? :) it’s her original wounding in life, to deal with narcissists so she can’t have an easy time leaving. Been there done that that’s what people work on when they go to therapy. Hahhaha
Luke P is a good man.
Oooeeeeeewwwwww smelly!
It's a wall he has it up, sometimes it's hard to break.
Loved By You Trump could save billions and just send Luke P to the Mexican border.
@@jakepaulpound-for-pound9418 Hahaha trumps wall Good One. I Like Luke P so dont get me wrong, i think that Luke P is the one for Hannah. But he sure have some walls up. But Hannah should understand, she was just like that with Colton.
When you re 23 years old you tolerate nonsense 32 year old Hannah will know better
She's 24
Hannah you're very smart, but he's not giving you what you want emotionally! You giving him a chance to save himself, but he lack conversation, love shouldn't be so stressful. Especially in the beginning. Red flag!! I love your strength, ❤❤good luck!!:
"Love" should NEVER be this hard love should be fun blissful.. happy and whimsical not frustrating and stress inducing. I feel irritated just watching this. I'm only 20 and I can see the red flags she needs to know her own worth . Seems to me that he is in love with the idea of her and she suffers from the same problem .
Holly McGrath Love is rarely blissful. Trust me, if you haven’t occasionally thought about killing the person you love as much as you have thought about dying for the person you live than you are not in true love. It’s rarely easy or simple. It can be a messy roller coaster and an incredible risk all at the same.
@@jakepaulpound-for-pound9418 I'm gonna have to disagree I think love when it's the right person isnt a cake walk but it's not like what you see in the clip where you cant even have any conversations with the person without it turning into a fight . Healthy disagreements every once in a while are normal but this honestly to me looks like shes babysitting him and neither can fully supply what the other wants. I think Luke is made out to be worse than he is but at the same time you shouldn't excuse abusive behavior because of it on both ends . I think its a total lack of compatibility
I think you can love a person who is sweet and stable OR a person who is a roller coaster ride of crazy...
But YOUR life will be mostly peaceful or mostly rollercoaster, depending on what YOU value and on who you spend most of your time with.
I'd pick a PEACEFUL attitude like grattitude within myself, and a peaceful partner!! Who needs the health problems that a bunch of drama produces? Not me.
@@christianone6611 I think you make a valid argument I think that its individual of the person what type of person you fall in love with .. but I think when two people are in love vs lust its easy to see .. they dont look at each other with love or passion really just angry frustration and hostility and I think it's easy to see they aren't right for each other
When he says enough said but nothing is literally said. He looks so smug like she's over it now, I win.
Hannah is time for you to grow up .Men in general are jealous if you see someone talk to you a this matter you're lucky. Or others never talk about because they don't care at all.That means they fix anything and let you the way you are without fine a good relationship and walk away all together.This topic sex is big and keep your mouth shut in this matter you can find later more trouble you can expect.
Why can't these people speak without using the word ''like''? Sounds ridiculous when she claims wanting to talk about something deeper and yet speaks like a fricking 5 year old...
Do you like Mac and cheese. ..
No answer
I swear if Luke P. doesn't go home next episode...
He won't, he still has way more trailer footage. Sorry to break it to ya.
@@speedude0164 True. I'm just tired of seeing him. It's just turned from the bachelorette to the Luke P. show. Everything just seems to be about him.
She needs to dump him he is the type that would be abusive and controlling. Say bye..bye.. to him
Luke P looks like Colton Underwood , that explains why she likes him .
At least colton opens up
G • Dèsireè _729 He just looks likes Colton , but he is not him )
Hannah is just... overly emotional and gets pissy easily.. I mean part of it is her fault for how she is dealing with it.. lol
I love how she prefaced the rose ceremony with her being a strong woman and then she chooses him. I swear the producers are making her keep him.
She says she's strong but she's making weak ass decisions. This ain't that hard.
Why can't hannah send this lunatic home😵 Ugh😲
He's fake af.
Get rid of this guy....all his screws are loose ......
I've been thinking that Luke P has been acting that way to be different and it's working on Hannah he played the mysterious card. I've been there lol.
Hannah: Can someone talk to him about what it means when I say how do you feel?
Luke: It hurts me.
Hannah: I don’t want to hear that.
Audience: Well, what do you want Hannah? Because that’s him talking about his feelings.
Am I the only one who thinks Luke P truly loves Hannah?
Joy Hasan yes
Yep it’s just you
He does love Hannah. He's definitely flawed but so misunderstood.
Yes, you alone in that boat. Luke thinks he is in love, but he’s not so clearly specially to us, the audience
@@joyh4 She literally said nothing about his race. And Luke P. is extremely obvious. He likes that she is a Southern, Christian beauty queen. He doesn't know her and he isn't even really trying to get to know who she really is. He clearly likes the idea of her and he's too young and arrogant to even try.
Hannah wake up & smell the coffee go with your instant & do what your heart tells you to do
Antonie!
He's a narcissist
She has lost control of her show. She’s letting these guys overshadow her having any connection with any of them. She needs to send them home. She is wasting a lot of time☹️
You can not get to the real stuff when all you do is get physical. ..
I think eventually and very soon, Luke P is going to get sent home. I think Hannah is not used to of a guy being hard to express his emotions and so in some way is intrigued. I'm sure she feels some sort of deep connection with him that we all can't see. Also, everyone is hating on Luke P; who knows what his story is. He has his issues and maybe this show is a turning point for his life.
Luke p got looks but no brain like seriously at first I was rooting for him since he was genuine n sweet but now since the show progress luke reveals his true colors 1 his immature 2 too young don’t know what he wants 3 cocky/douchbag 4 being a liar 5 being a manipulative twisting his words trying to make himself innocent 6 lastly being fake showing no emotion plus I’m tired of him already stealing Hannah show everything revolves around him n what happened with the guys n Luke s like I never seen him talking his family niece n past relationship at all with Hannah
Come on Hannah open your eyes on the next elimination don’t give him the rose he don’t deserve to be there or with u u have other guys diserve u n are worthy of u n make u happy unlike Luke who make u sad hurts n unhappy
Whether you see this man as misunderstood or dangerous says more about who you are and what you've been through than who he is.
Why is that?
He's a raging somatic NPD! Great case study for understanding narcissist and their entire make-up. Scary stuff.
Peter, Jed or Tyler for next Bachelor!
The other guys aren't worth looking at! They can't keep out of the Luke P drama and they are bullies with the constant verbal abusing of Luke P.
I think Tyler will win I really hope so but kinda hoping peter would be the next bachelor
Aspergers...?
On his part ?.
Wake up Hannah before it's too late. Luke P. is doing nothing but lying to you. Hannah please send Luke P. home. He's a snake. I can't make it any plainer to you. He will hurt you so bad. Please wake up before you do something you will regret.
2:57 he's LITERALLY doing it right now.
Interesting that this may be the first time the first impression rose doesn’t “win” on the bachelorette side of things.
Hannah...plisss NEXTTTT
Omg he is not into the drama and doesn't want to and doesn't have to deal with it.
Luke P knows what he want, but Hanna doesn't know want she want.
He ain't the one honey.
That's why he got the first impression rose she really liked him but omg he's not all together in his head ,the was he processes things is crazy
P
I absolutely love Luke!
Send him home.
That's what I keep yelling at the tv.
Honestly if it weren’t for the Luke S drama, this one on one definitely would have been the push they needed, but nah he had body slam him for some reason.... and everyone hating him set the tone for this date. Which sucks cause I think in a different real life setting these two could be a real couple. Just not on the show... right people but wrong place and time
the "it takes time" shit means the producers are telling her to keep him for the ratings
Some men just aren’t that deep. This conflicted feeling is her answer. Usually the beginning of a relationship is supposed to be some of the best moments and look how rocky it’s been 😞
He is too young.
I feel like i could like Luke if he didn't look like he was about to punch everyone that didn't agree with him. I'm sure he is an absolute gentleman.
This is a classic example of the girl falling for the wrong guy
I like him and she wants him.
Perci M I believe she already knows his true colors, and at least she’s seeing it right now, unlike the others who portraying like so kind and sweet but the truth maybe they are far worst than him, imo.
Actions speak louder than words, Luke!!
Luke is constantly trying to defend himself because he knows he’s messed up psychologically.
Hannah, see the real men. Seriously, there are some men in your midst and there are insecure boys. Luke P. He's already said he wanted to leave because he wasn't getting enough attn.
“What if I let go of luke...who am I suppose to be with” like are you for real. I had hopes for this season but everyone was right about her
that’s not what she said. She said “what if I let go of Luke but he’s who Im supposed to be with?” She’s probably thinking that because she gave him the first impression rose
A envelope with no letter.
As a woman I know it is easy to keep digging where there is nothing. Please let go.what you are realizing it real trust me.let him go. No letter!
No offense. Love you all
Shes going to pick Luke p at the end.
I know he will go far but I dont tnink he will win .
Nope
I think Tyler C will win. But I do think Luke will make it to hometowns.
@@jaelynisfeelingsweet I saw the spoilers if they're correct I'm incredibly happy with the outcome aha
@@jaelynisfeelingsweet geez. Spoiler warning please
I think he just talks in circles, no real meaning behind his words, not getting to know each other, not having fun because hes so obsessed with getting her to feel a certain way about him... Hes not a real person, if he showed that, she would see manipulation, anger and hate
wtf?
Years of eating junk food is finally taking a toll on Americans. The beauty standards of Americans have drastically declined and this show is a proof of that.
Why can’t she see what all of us watching this are seeing. He is acting
This sounds like Rachel and peter omg .is hard when you like someone but they not there yet
But Peter was a good person. Luke P. is only playing the game he doesn't know Hannah and he is not listening to her. He is not even trying to change for her.
I thought Hannah was a smart woman. But she's letting Luke P. Manipulate her all the time. Can't she see him for who he really is? I would hate to see her pick him. He's such a sneak and a liar. I hope she sees through him soon. Her life would be miserable with him. He hasn't been honest with her at all. He's not a good guy at all. He's such a fake and i don't think she sees that.
She seems like she mad at Luke p and still let’s him stay knowing he gonna start some more stuff! Like why?! Y’all haven’t had any good bonding time together... you sent jpj home and kept Luke p... Are you keeping him from what happening in the beginning of the season? Gosh I’m so confused why hes still in this show... I feel like if she’s watches episode 4 and see he was lying and still keeps Luke p...