+Matt Janovic Look around you Menippus, our democracy is a lie! The parties and bankers have controlled and pre-planned everything! Why, this money isn't even backed by anything!
@@redeye4516 Ah I see you’re a Colin Robinson style energy vampire. Whenever someone starts a self righteous rant about politics I feel my life force slipping away.
I am greek. We have this saying that when someone is planning or already is taking advantage of your labor, he/she drinks your blood. I don't know if the saying is derived from vampirism, bats and mosquitos or maybe both of them corerllated. I wonder if the story with the philosopher and the student, is actually told figuratevely, as in, the woman pretends to have all these lavish expensive things and beauty, but the philosopher was able to see through her lies and deception for what she really is, a monster in disguise. It could be said for many people of today, who pretend to be famous or rich on social media, who through their fake appeal along with their fake personas, only try to manipulate others, to drain them.
All I know is, the smart women should realize when they got it good, because dislike or avoidance of others may not have a good reason to compare or make alike to themselves, it's already fake enough. Just take it for what it is.
In the version of the "Bride of Corinth" I read, when discovered, the lady actually talks to her parents and says that she wasn't doing anything against the wishes of the gods or something to that extent. More than a vampire story, it seems like the story of a restless soul that had died before her time, without fulfilling her life goal of being a lover and a wife. At least that was my impression and that is a recurring theme in antiquity.
Was that Goethe's version? (I still haven't read that, though I've been meaning to...) In any case, the story as told by Phlegon of Tralles implies much the same thing - that the dead girl wanted to return to the life that had been torn from her. But the implication of the story seems to be (at least to judge from the alarm of the townspeople, who demanded that her body be burned) that she had returned as an empousa.
@@toldinstone It was in "Magic, Witchcraft, and Ghosts in the Greek and Roman Worlds", Daniel Ogden, 2002 Oxford University Press. In there, the girl says, before dying (again) “Mother and father, it is unfair of you to have begrudged me spending three days with the guest in my father’s house. I was causing nobody any trouble. As a result of this you will grieve afresh, because of your interference, and I shall return to my appointed place. For it was by the will of the gods that I came here.” . It also says that the guy she visited committed suicide from despair. And yes, the reaction of the townsfolk wasn't good : the girl's body had to be burned outside the city's limits and everyone purified. The book also says that Goethe makes her into a vampire in the "Bride of Corinth". My bad for confusing Goethe's title of the story with Phlegon of Tralles story.
@@BlackMasterRoshi It doesn't say, but I'd say no for a couple of reasons : 1) After speaking "So much did she say before dying at once, and her body was stretched out on the bed for all to see." 2) When the townsfolk go to the family vault to check whether she was missing, "It was not yet six months since the girl had died. When we had opened up the vault into which all her relatives were put on death, we saw the bodies lying on the other biers, or the bones in the case of those that had died long ago." 1) doesn't seem like the way you talk about a skeleton and the fact that it specifically mentions bones for the longer dead relatives makes me think that, upon her second death, Philinnion (the girl) was not just bones, otherwise it would have probably been mentioned for her too.
Fascinating to hear about how old these stories of blood-drinkers are. I wonder if it's really allegories about how youth and love will end up drained out of people, no matter how beautiful their lover is, and how deep their love is at the beginning, since these vampires are enchanted with the look of beauty, riches and youth. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
it's about celestial events in the past. The Sun of the ancients was Saturn a red dwarf star. then Saturn went nova and turned off into the gaseous giant of today. Then the solar system of Saturn was captured by today's Sun, and in the process planet Mars came close to Earth for many centuries, and with it a reddness - Mars' northern hemisphere is excavated to 6 km lower than its southern hemisphere. Being red - hebrew name of Mars is Ma'adim - the one who reddens, the myths about Mars are about blood drinking, blood shedding, baptism in blood, wine drinking and so on
Nah, I like to believe that vampires are real but with less fantastical methods and the lack of plans for wider domination allowing them to remain mostly a myth in most parts of the world.
There was a story by Clark Ashton Smith that was published in Weird Tales in the 1930's called "The End of the Story" about a young scholar who finds a beautiful woman while exploring some old ruins. She takes him to her house and feeds him and he starts falling in love with her and getting drowsy and stuff when suddenly a Benidictine monk the young scholar had befriended earlier came in to rescue him. The monk banished the woman's illusions and her home was nothing more than a dirty dark hole and she was revealed to be a blood sucking lamia. She flees from the monk who tells the young scholar he was rescued just in time and he would've been killed that night if the monk hadn't found him. So they go back to the monastery and the rest of the monks help pack everything up and they send the young scholar home. But as soon as he gets home the young man immediately starts making plans to return to the ruins to reunite with the woman/lamia.
Basically, the warning is this - You are not all that. If a hot girl comes onto you, it's a trap. She either wants to scam you for drinks and money, or she's a vampire and is going to murder you. If a hot girl ever comes onto you, just run away. It's served me well for years. I've had lots of hot girls come onto me in bars, and not one of them has ever taken my blood. As soon as they suggest going back to their place I shout out, "BACK TO HELL, YOU SHE DAEMON!!!!" and then throw alcohol into their face. That is why they've never gotten to me.
these are really neat stories! it's so refreshing not hearing about the same old vampires but instead some more creatives varieties of bloodthirsty and undead monsters from antiquity.
While not typically counted as vampires, the blood-drinking ghosts in The Odyssey might very well classify as such. That being said, Odysseus and his crew actually did travel to Hades in the first place rather than the dead returning to the world of the living, so it's almost more necromancy on Odysseus' part (by the instructions of Circe) than anything else.
I found your channel a couple of weeks ago and it's quickly become one of my favs. You always choose interesting and unique topics that most of us would've never learned without you.
Your channel has grown immensely in the last month or so, and for good reason! You make impeccable videos with and excellent delivery! Many thanks! Can’t wait to read your book!
I love there ls always a theme with vampire stories, one of the earliest novels (1871) Carmilla by Sheridan La Fanu has seductive lady vampire who feeds on a lady night after night... Happy Halloween 🎃
Man. This is so interesting. I've been looking for something like this. Ancient stories of various subjects. But this is even better. Vampires in ancient Greece. ❤️ Good job man! 👍
Fascinating video, but what truly amazed was the gorgeous frescoes, many of them i had never seen before. Could you give us some references, please? Thank you for this beatiful Halloween gift.
You're very welcome. Many of the images came from my collection of photos from the Naples Archaeological Museum, and most of the rest were public domain images of the same wonderful collection. Is there any particular image you'd like to know more about?
@@toldinstone You are always so kind to respond so quickly! The paintings that leave me speechless are those of the minute: 0:10 It looks like the outskirts of a shrine, with different altars, hanging offerings even from the trees. 1:50 What I imagine are characters walking around the necropolis on the outskirts of a city. 3:05 One person making an offering at an altar while another collects berries with a curious hat. 4:00 It looks like a fight or battle scene in a wetland, presided over by a sculpture or a deity. These paintings are truly an open window to that time, what was life then, how they represented it and the way they did it. The fast traces of the brush, the dynamism of the figures, the landscapes, the scale of the human body in well-composed settings that perfectly combine architecture and nature. Sometimes it seem to me that i am contemplating Impressionist paintings. Responding to your question, I'd like to know more about every one of them! Hahahaha! Have a nice day!
@@carleslazaro6117 They really are remarkable frescoes - so different, in both style and content, from the more familiar public art of the classical world. A bit of detail on the images you mentioned: The first image (from the villa of Agrippa Postumus in Boscotrecase) is a generic "sacred landscape," notionally set in Egypt, with a shrine in the background. You're right about the offerings in the trees. The second image (also from the villa of Agrippa) is a detail from another "sacred landscape" scene. The large vase stands on the steps of a sanctuary laden with offerings. The third image (from the Sanctuary of Isis in Pompeii) is yet another idyllic sacred landscape, with what appears to be a satyr standing in front of a small altar and a fisherman in a broad-brimmed hat in the background. The fourth image, finally, is a badly-faded depiction of Theseus saving Andromeda from the sea monster. The figure of Andromeda has faded to an eerie pale silhouette.
This is fascinating. The core concept of an alluring monster sucking life in a beautiful woman's form is so similar to the Chinese or oriental concept of the Fox. I know very similar stories from Chinese folklore. Could there have been some cultural influences via Hellenistic Asia? On the other hand, the main source of our current cultural notion of the vampire, stemming from Central and Eastern European folklore, is quite different - vampirs, upirs, upiors were usually un/dead rising from their graves, or frequently just „normal“ living men and women possessing sinister magical powers, which they used to make harm to their community, sucking the life energy, blood or health at night in a changed form (usually that of moth, wolf of other animal forms). However in Balkan and Eastern Europe, sometimes they were also called strigs (strigon, strega, strigona), so there is a possible connection to this Ancient Greek cultural heritage. Bram Stoker's concept, which formed our present-day notion of the vampire, is mostly a mixture of Slavic and Balkan folklore with other influences, such as these ancient traditions, and stories about historical figures like Elisabeth Bathory or Vlad Tepes (Dracula)...
Oh, this reminded me of Arnaut Pavle. He was a Serbian mercenary who claimed that he encountered a vampire in Greece, fought it and defeated it. Soon after he returned to his village nearby Svilajnac he died. Suddenly people in the village started mysteriously dying. People were in panic and a commission was formed to examine his body. The body wasn’t decomposing, as well as several others that the people thought were turned by Pavle. All corpses had hawthorn stakes (only wood that kills vampires) driven trough their hearts and then were burned. Around the same time we have the first ever officially recorded vampire - Petar Blagojević.After his death in 1725 nine people in the village suddenly died. His widowed wife claimed that he visited her one night and she got so scared that she run away to another village. Because that part of Serbia was under Austrian occupation at the time the Serbian villagers had to ask for permission to dig up his body and said they would all leave the village if that wouldn’t be granted to them. The same thing happened to Petar like what happened to Pavle. The ritual vampire killing of Petar Blagojević was attended by Austrian authorities that recorded it and got frightened when they saw that Petar’s mouth was bloody and his hair and nails were still growing after his death. This story was printed in newspapers all over Europe and that’s how the vampire panic spread across the whole continent. The most famous Serbian vampire is definitely Sava Savanović. Fun fact, the first Serbian horror film Leptirica is based on stories about him. My late great grandmother would tell me stories about his when I was little, in the same way those stories were told to her when she was little. Oh, and the word vampire is of Serbian origin (vampir/вампир). Today we associate Romania with vampires because of Bram Stoker’s novel Dracula, but the “modern day vampire” comes from Serbian mythology. There are some vampire stories from Romani thou, Serbia and Romania are friendly neighboring countries and mixing of cultures and mythology is normal in those occasions.
I'm noticing a gendered pattern concerning ancient greek monsters... Gorgon, Empousa, Mormo, Brimo, Stryx... ancient greek men really were terrified of women (not to mention "meddling, sneaky witches" like Circe , Graeae and Medea, whos name actually comes from the greek verb "to plot carefully")... Baubo is my favourite, apparently she appears a "gigantic, nocturnal spectre"... basically a huge, lanky shadow that sneaks around in the night, absolutley chilling to me. I forgot from where, but i remember reading that these are all epithets for Hekate, which would make sense, her being the "goddess of witches and spells". Baubo literally means "barker" or "roarer", after the greek version of the onymatapaieic word for the sound baying dogs make - "bark" - "βαύ" - this is because apparently Hermes once tried to force himself on Hekate and she roared so loud he ran away... badass. i love all your videos! this one was great, i'm gonna have to get your book all this stuff is just so interesting to me.
Fascinating... In Lithuanian mythology is some scare mythical creature call "Baubas" (word itself is masculine gender). And verb "baubti" is one version of "to roar" in lithuanian
That’s super interesting cuz I know there’s also Baubo the “goddess of mirth” who’s associated with ritual sexual humor, and possibly with the figure of Iambe in the Homeric ode to Demeter, and iambic poetry? Which is a very different picture of women than the monster and witch stories, and given some of the ritual obscenity in honor of Demeter seems to have been a feature of exclusively female cults might have something to do with how Greek women saw themselves, as opposed to how men saw them.
@@DrFranklynAnderson it's not really even when we're talking about monsters. Most of those you listed are rather mythical creatures or species of men and also had a female counterpart (Typhon-Echidna, Satyrs-Maenads and I'm sure there were female Cyclops and centaur but maybe not), like there's no male counterpart to Medusa, Brimo etc they are specifically female and specifically monsters ie actively hunt down men.... Also look how the women who are r*ped are treated in Greek myth... Medusa was a normal woman before she was r*ped, blamed for said r*pe then turned into a monster that literally no on can even look at. There's another myth concerning how the constellation Ursa major came to be, a girl longed to live with Artemis, but was then r*ped by Zeus, and because Artemis felt "betrayed" by her for not being a virgin like her anymore (because, I remind you, she was r*ped by a god), Artemis turned her into a fking bear!! The myth of that one is long and very interesting if not fking depressing... oh and god knows how many women Hera punished for daring to be r*ped by her husband... My point is, yes there were male monsters and mythical figures who are severely punished for being horrible people, but if you look at the backstories for basically any Greek myth, chances are there will be some pronounced sexism and misogyny... it's informative and helpful for our own cultural development to accept this. I mean, beside myth,they really did treat women really abusive and oppressively. I love Greek myth but it's impossible to deny they hyper masculin, homo erotic and very misogynistic culture that was critical to their culture and it's development.
@@TNCo230 raaa that is interesting! There absolutely has to be a connection there! Great thing about folkloric characters is that the state/church has no way to stop the spread and transmission of their stories so they last for ever! Lithuania isn't really close to Greece either is it? Would be interesting to see if other neighbouring cultures have their own version too.
I feel like the narrator is treating our hero a bit unfairly. On their first meeting the Vampire presents herself as 1) hot, 2) rich, 3) available, and 4) possibly in to him. Most of us would fail to maintain higher brain functions in that scenario.
@@chemskiesukvol.2covid19isbs hey everybody! This person is special and "can see through the media!" Drop what your doing, disregard all bodies of academic knowledge, burn your degrees and just do what they tell you!
@@jimbochungus more than a grade nine dropout who doesn't understand the levels of academic rigour that goes into historical research, so he thinks that reading some unsubstantiated claims on the internet makes him an expert, but also, deep down inside, he is aware that he'll never be recognized as an expert, so at every opportunity he makes vague inferences of a conspiracy amongst the elitist gatekeepers of knowledge to exclude him?... Ok.
I especially liked the visuals that accompanied your telling of the stories. There is something about roman painting of human characters that is upset-ling. Take @6:20 for example. the bodies a perfection of grace and elegance in a dance especially the woman. But the faces. The faces always have a stern intense and severe look from anachronistic eyes. It's the look of fear and intimidation. I could venture an interpretation of it, but it would be a guess. I've seen that expression on roman paintings before. I believe this is the a glimpse into these people's psychology and i see something we do not have today. Something in between civilization, and barbarism, something in between anarchy and the social contract of society.
In Theravada Buddhism, there is a traditional practice known as Sacca-kiriya or an “act of truth,” a type of protective blessing that involved chanting something incontrovertibly true, and then saying, “By the power of this truth, may there be such-and-such.”
The Gene Wolfe novel "The Sorcerer's House" is based on this particular Lamia story, and is one of my favorite Wolfe novels. The whole narrative is a trick within a trick. Would highly recommend. Horror and Fantasy, but really just a Horror novel under it all.
I never knew about this. Very interesting stuff. I am not a fan of horror, normally. Vampires are, however, symbolically interesting. I guess that is why they appear in so many literary traditions. Excellent video! I posted it on Twitter. 🙏
You know, that first story really reminds me alot of a couples stories I heard about Jorogumo in Japanese folklore. Some things are universal. Keep an eye out for strange women.
Very glad you enjoyed the video! As far as I can tell, vampires were always female in Greek myth and folklore. Then again, our stock of stories is very small...
Only part I didn't get was how the vampire in the first myth was a wife of a Venetian. The timeline doesn't add up if we take into account that the story is ancient.
Local philosopher DESTROYS vampire with FACTS and LOGIC.
Vampires hate him. Learn one amazing philosophical trick……
We could use that philosopher right now for our current social malaise.
+Matt Janovic
Look around you Menippus, our democracy is a lie! The parties and bankers have controlled and pre-planned everything! Why, this money isn't even backed by anything!
@@redeye4516 Ah I see you’re a Colin Robinson style energy vampire. Whenever someone starts a self righteous rant about politics I feel my life force slipping away.
+Chimp in a Neckbrace
It's called a joke, please take one
“He was charmed, and, as we have said, not terribly perceptive.”
A fellow 21st century hopeless romantic
@Belenus3080 I was scrolling through comments and got to this one right at the exact time it was being said in the video.
I think you mean Simp
I am greek. We have this saying that when someone is planning or already is taking advantage of your labor, he/she drinks your blood. I don't know if the saying is derived from vampirism, bats and mosquitos or maybe both of them corerllated. I wonder if the story with the philosopher and the student, is actually told figuratevely, as in, the woman pretends to have all these lavish expensive things and beauty, but the philosopher was able to see through her lies and deception for what she really is, a monster in disguise. It could be said for many people of today, who pretend to be famous or rich on social media, who through their fake appeal along with their fake personas, only try to manipulate others, to drain them.
Great insight, thank you
I think that's a term used in the west as well, except we call them leeches. Like "How long you going to let him/her leech off you"
There are only vampire bats in latin America , I think.
@@satansjihad6353 you're right! Then the saying must come from the mythological sense of vampirism or maybe leeches or mosquitos?
All I know is, the smart women should realize when they got it good, because dislike or avoidance of others may not have a good reason to compare or make alike to themselves, it's already fake enough. Just take it for what it is.
“The lady dissolved into a snake-like monster, and vanished with a whale.”
The same thing happened to my ex. 👍
*wail lol
Lmao
🙏🏼❤️😆😆😆😆
Would that be an orca or a sperm whale?
😂
In the version of the "Bride of Corinth" I read, when discovered, the lady actually talks to her parents and says that she wasn't doing anything against the wishes of the gods or something to that extent. More than a vampire story, it seems like the story of a restless soul that had died before her time, without fulfilling her life goal of being a lover and a wife. At least that was my impression and that is a recurring theme in antiquity.
Was that Goethe's version? (I still haven't read that, though I've been meaning to...) In any case, the story as told by Phlegon of Tralles implies much the same thing - that the dead girl wanted to return to the life that had been torn from her. But the implication of the story seems to be (at least to judge from the alarm of the townspeople, who demanded that her body be burned) that she had returned as an empousa.
@@toldinstone It was in "Magic, Witchcraft, and Ghosts in the Greek and Roman Worlds", Daniel Ogden, 2002 Oxford University Press.
In there, the girl says, before dying (again) “Mother and father, it is unfair of you to have begrudged me spending three days with the guest in my father’s house. I was causing nobody any trouble. As a result of this you will grieve afresh, because of your interference, and I shall return to my appointed place. For it was by the will of the gods that I came here.” . It also says that the guy she visited committed suicide from despair.
And yes, the reaction of the townsfolk wasn't good : the girl's body had to be burned outside the city's limits and everyone purified.
The book also says that Goethe makes her into a vampire in the "Bride of Corinth". My bad for confusing Goethe's title of the story with Phlegon of Tralles story.
@@ozne_2358 does she still transform into a skeleton at the end?
@@BlackMasterRoshi It doesn't say, but I'd say no for a couple of reasons :
1) After speaking "So much did she say before dying at once, and her body was stretched out on the bed for all to see."
2) When the townsfolk go to the family vault to check whether she was missing, "It was not yet six months since the girl had died. When we had opened up the vault into which all her relatives were put on death, we saw the bodies lying on the other biers, or the bones in the case of those that had died long ago."
1) doesn't seem like the way you talk about a skeleton and the fact that it specifically mentions bones for the longer dead relatives makes me think that, upon her second death, Philinnion (the girl) was not just bones, otherwise it would have probably been mentioned for her too.
Fascinating to hear about how old these stories of blood-drinkers are. I wonder if it's really allegories about how youth and love will end up drained out of people, no matter how beautiful their lover is, and how deep their love is at the beginning, since these vampires are enchanted with the look of beauty, riches and youth.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
it's about celestial events in the past. The Sun of the ancients was Saturn a red dwarf star. then Saturn went nova and turned off into the gaseous giant of today. Then the solar system of Saturn was captured by today's Sun, and in the process planet Mars came close to Earth for many centuries, and with it a reddness - Mars' northern hemisphere is excavated to 6 km lower than its southern hemisphere. Being red - hebrew name of Mars is Ma'adim - the one who reddens, the myths about Mars are about blood drinking, blood shedding, baptism in blood, wine drinking and so on
@@criztu none of this is true. The gas giants were not stars
Blood was an important symbol of life and inheritance. One who loves too freely loses both.
Maybe this just actually happened back then...
Nah, I like to believe that vampires are real but with less fantastical methods and the lack of plans for wider domination allowing them to remain mostly a myth in most parts of the world.
The vampire lady and student story is like an allegory about chasing wealth and material items is an illusionary vampiric waste of life
Oh that is very observant. But I'd argue that without pursuing wealth you can't be much of a support for people in times of need.
@@da4mula885pursuing wealth to support others and chasing it for materialistic reasons are very different
1st century BC men: Oh boy I sure hope I'm not devoured by a Lamia
21st century AD men: Oh boy I wish I could be devoured by a Lamia
There was a story by Clark Ashton Smith that was published in Weird Tales in the 1930's called "The End of the Story" about a young scholar who finds a beautiful woman while exploring some old ruins.
She takes him to her house and feeds him and he starts falling in love with her and getting drowsy and stuff when suddenly a Benidictine monk the young scholar had befriended earlier came in to rescue him. The monk banished the woman's illusions and her home was nothing more than a dirty dark hole and she was revealed to be a blood sucking lamia. She flees from the monk who tells the young scholar he was rescued just in time and he would've been killed that night if the monk hadn't found him.
So they go back to the monastery and the rest of the monks help pack everything up and they send the young scholar home. But as soon as he gets home the young man immediately starts making plans to return to the ruins to reunite with the woman/lamia.
Death by poon ... I really hope the scholar knew what a labia is
For all we know, the 1st century BC men were into vore too.
Now all the Greek mythology stuff in Castlevania makes sense.
I love this comment
Really charming to hear that these stories go back that far, thanks again.
Not as charming as George Lincoln Rockwell. May he rest in peace.
@@vashlash6870 what does that mean
Why wouldn't stories extend this far back when vampires live forever?
They go all the way back to Mesopotamia, way before this
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Basically, the warning is this - You are not all that. If a hot girl comes onto you, it's a trap. She either wants to scam you for drinks and money, or she's a vampire and is going to murder you. If a hot girl ever comes onto you, just run away. It's served me well for years. I've had lots of hot girls come onto me in bars, and not one of them has ever taken my blood. As soon as they suggest going back to their place I shout out, "BACK TO HELL, YOU SHE DAEMON!!!!" and then throw alcohol into their face. That is why they've never gotten to me.
This is the best Halloween themed video that I’ve seen in years. Thank you.
Agree!
I just read the chapter in your book about whether or not they believed in ghosts. This was an awesome pairing to that
And what was the conclusion ?
these are really neat stories! it's so refreshing not hearing about the same old vampires but instead some more creatives varieties of bloodthirsty and undead monsters from antiquity.
I also absolutely recommend Apuleio's "Golden Ass" which is full of sub-stories, including many sinister supernatural ones.
^^^^
I shall be reading this one soon, looking forward to it
Enticing title
Or the "Metamorphoseon" (the same original title of Apuleio's script) of Ovid.
Yeah, I also absolutely recommend Apuleio's golden ass....
Keats' poem, Lamia, based on the story about the imperceptive student of Corinth, is well worth reading.
While not typically counted as vampires, the blood-drinking ghosts in The Odyssey might very well classify as such. That being said, Odysseus and his crew actually did travel to Hades in the first place rather than the dead returning to the world of the living, so it's almost more necromancy on Odysseus' part (by the instructions of Circe) than anything else.
I found your channel a couple of weeks ago and it's quickly become one of my favs. You always choose interesting and unique topics that most of us would've never learned without you.
Your channel has grown immensely in the last month or so, and for good reason! You make impeccable videos with and excellent delivery! Many thanks! Can’t wait to read your book!
It's amazing to hear the kinds of ghost stories from ancient times. Thank you -- this was so enjoyable
Really wish you could narrate the audiobook! I love listening to the way you tell stories.
Garrett, Thank you so much for relating these stories. I know Greek mythology and knew nothing about these vampire tales.
I love there ls always a theme with vampire stories, one of the earliest novels (1871) Carmilla by Sheridan La Fanu has seductive lady vampire who feeds on a lady night after night...
Happy Halloween 🎃
Cool book! Didn't think anybody else ever knew about that!
Patrician taste
I learned about this book at a monster erotica panel at a comicon....lol
God I wish that were me
Loved listening to this as I did the dishes tonight. Great imagery! Thankyou
Superb storytelling! Yes, I am like many others here beginning to think of your channel as one of my favorite’s.
Guy: I love this rich woman
Oh hey Menippus
SNAP BACK TO REALITY
where's my rich woman
This was a perfect video for this time of year. I really enjoyed it!
Just bought your book! Can't wait to read!
Myths about snakes with hypnotic powers everywhere. Greece. Egypt. India. China. Mesoamerica. Why is this theme so broad and so common?
All of these cultures were pretty well connected to each other, it should be noted
You have such a calming voice
Loving the original content. Learning something new every Friday.
Man. This is so interesting. I've been looking for something like this. Ancient stories of various subjects. But this is even better. Vampires in ancient Greece. ❤️
Good job man! 👍
Fascinating video, but what truly amazed was the gorgeous frescoes, many of them i had never seen before. Could you give us some references, please?
Thank you for this beatiful Halloween gift.
You're very welcome. Many of the images came from my collection of photos from the Naples Archaeological Museum, and most of the rest were public domain images of the same wonderful collection. Is there any particular image you'd like to know more about?
@@toldinstone You are always so kind to respond so quickly!
The paintings that leave me speechless are those of the minute:
0:10 It looks like the outskirts of a shrine, with different altars, hanging offerings even from the trees.
1:50 What I imagine are characters walking around the necropolis on the outskirts of a city.
3:05 One person making an offering at an altar while another collects berries with a curious hat.
4:00 It looks like a fight or battle scene in a wetland, presided over by a sculpture or a deity.
These paintings are truly an open window to that time, what was life then, how they represented it and the way they did it.
The fast traces of the brush, the dynamism of the figures, the landscapes, the scale of the human body in well-composed settings that perfectly combine architecture and nature.
Sometimes it seem to me that i am contemplating Impressionist paintings.
Responding to your question, I'd like to know more about every one of them! Hahahaha!
Have a nice day!
@@carleslazaro6117 They really are remarkable frescoes - so different, in both style and content, from the more familiar public art of the classical world. A bit of detail on the images you mentioned:
The first image (from the villa of Agrippa Postumus in Boscotrecase) is a generic "sacred landscape," notionally set in Egypt, with a shrine in the background. You're right about the offerings in the trees.
The second image (also from the villa of Agrippa) is a detail from another "sacred landscape" scene. The large vase stands on the steps of a sanctuary laden with offerings.
The third image (from the Sanctuary of Isis in Pompeii) is yet another idyllic sacred landscape, with what appears to be a satyr standing in front of a small altar and a fisherman in a broad-brimmed hat in the background.
The fourth image, finally, is a badly-faded depiction of Theseus saving Andromeda from the sea monster. The figure of Andromeda has faded to an eerie pale silhouette.
Such a great video! The narration was particularly good.
Being stuck home with COVID this channel is such a blessing
Hope you get better soon!
Get better soon!
Thank you so much for showing us so many wonderful ancient art works in your videos!
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Me: the bloodiest who in whoville.
A lively telling of a classic tale :) thank you
I just got your book and am half way into it. Excellent!
This is fascinating. The core concept of an alluring monster sucking life in a beautiful woman's form is so similar to the Chinese or oriental concept of the Fox. I know very similar stories from Chinese folklore. Could there have been some cultural influences via Hellenistic Asia? On the other hand, the main source of our current cultural notion of the vampire, stemming from Central and Eastern European folklore, is quite different - vampirs, upirs, upiors were usually un/dead rising from their graves, or frequently just „normal“ living men and women possessing sinister magical powers, which they used to make harm to their community, sucking the life energy, blood or health at night in a changed form (usually that of moth, wolf of other animal forms). However in Balkan and Eastern Europe, sometimes they were also called strigs (strigon, strega, strigona), so there is a possible connection to this Ancient Greek cultural heritage. Bram Stoker's concept, which formed our present-day notion of the vampire, is mostly a mixture of Slavic and Balkan folklore with other influences, such as these ancient traditions, and stories about historical figures like Elisabeth Bathory or Vlad Tepes (Dracula)...
The Student and the Vampire was well told and captivating, bravo sir
I am a big fan of vampire fiction and was unaware that they dated back so far, thank you for the education.
This is one of my favorite history videos. I would love to see more like this
Oh, this reminded me of Arnaut Pavle. He was a Serbian mercenary who claimed that he encountered a vampire in Greece, fought it and defeated it. Soon after he returned to his village nearby Svilajnac he died. Suddenly people in the village started mysteriously dying. People were in panic and a commission was formed to examine his body. The body wasn’t decomposing, as well as several others that the people thought were turned by Pavle. All corpses had hawthorn stakes (only wood that kills vampires) driven trough their hearts and then were burned.
Around the same time we have the first ever officially recorded vampire - Petar Blagojević.After his death in 1725 nine people in the village suddenly died. His widowed wife claimed that he visited her one night and she got so scared that she run away to another village. Because that part of Serbia was under Austrian occupation at the time the Serbian villagers had to ask for permission to dig up his body and said they would all leave the village if that wouldn’t be granted to them. The same thing happened to Petar like what happened to Pavle. The ritual vampire killing of Petar Blagojević was attended by Austrian authorities that recorded it and got frightened when they saw that Petar’s mouth was bloody and his hair and nails were still growing after his death. This story was printed in newspapers all over Europe and that’s how the vampire panic spread across the whole continent.
The most famous Serbian vampire is definitely Sava Savanović. Fun fact, the first Serbian horror film Leptirica is based on stories about him. My late great grandmother would tell me stories about his when I was little, in the same way those stories were told to her when she was little.
Oh, and the word vampire is of Serbian origin (vampir/вампир). Today we associate Romania with vampires because of Bram Stoker’s novel Dracula, but the “modern day vampire” comes from Serbian mythology. There are some vampire stories from Romani thou, Serbia and Romania are friendly neighboring countries and mixing of cultures and mythology is normal in those occasions.
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Bought your new book today, can’t wait for it to arrive! Keep it up buddy! :)
I'm noticing a gendered pattern concerning ancient greek monsters... Gorgon, Empousa, Mormo, Brimo, Stryx... ancient greek men really were terrified of women (not to mention "meddling, sneaky witches" like Circe , Graeae and Medea, whos name actually comes from the greek verb "to plot carefully")...
Baubo is my favourite, apparently she appears a "gigantic, nocturnal spectre"... basically a huge, lanky shadow that sneaks around in the night, absolutley chilling to me.
I forgot from where, but i remember reading that these are all epithets for Hekate, which would make sense, her being the "goddess of witches and spells". Baubo literally means "barker" or "roarer", after the greek version of the onymatapaieic word for the sound baying dogs make - "bark" - "βαύ" - this is because apparently Hermes once tried to force himself on Hekate and she roared so loud he ran away... badass.
i love all your videos! this one was great, i'm gonna have to get your book all this stuff is just so interesting to me.
Fascinating... In Lithuanian mythology is some scare mythical creature call "Baubas" (word itself is masculine gender). And verb "baubti" is one version of "to roar" in lithuanian
That’s super interesting cuz I know there’s also Baubo the “goddess of mirth” who’s associated with ritual sexual humor, and possibly with the figure of Iambe in the Homeric ode to Demeter, and iambic poetry? Which is a very different picture of women than the monster and witch stories, and given some of the ritual obscenity in honor of Demeter seems to have been a feature of exclusively female cults might have something to do with how Greek women saw themselves, as opposed to how men saw them.
The Minotaur, centaurs, satyrs, cyclopses, Typhon… guys like Ixion, Sisyphus, and Tantalus… it’s honestly a pretty even split, gender-wise.
@@DrFranklynAnderson it's not really even when we're talking about monsters. Most of those you listed are rather mythical creatures or species of men and also had a female counterpart (Typhon-Echidna, Satyrs-Maenads and I'm sure there were female Cyclops and centaur but maybe not), like there's no male counterpart to Medusa, Brimo etc they are specifically female and specifically monsters ie actively hunt down men.... Also look how the women who are r*ped are treated in Greek myth... Medusa was a normal woman before she was r*ped, blamed for said r*pe then turned into a monster that literally no on can even look at. There's another myth concerning how the constellation Ursa major came to be, a girl longed to live with Artemis, but was then r*ped by Zeus, and because Artemis felt "betrayed" by her for not being a virgin like her anymore (because, I remind you, she was r*ped by a god), Artemis turned her into a fking bear!! The myth of that one is long and very interesting if not fking depressing... oh and god knows how many women Hera punished for daring to be r*ped by her husband...
My point is, yes there were male monsters and mythical figures who are severely punished for being horrible people, but if you look at the backstories for basically any Greek myth, chances are there will be some pronounced sexism and misogyny... it's informative and helpful for our own cultural development to accept this.
I mean, beside myth,they really did treat women really abusive and oppressively. I love Greek myth but it's impossible to deny they hyper masculin, homo erotic and very misogynistic culture that was critical to their culture and it's development.
@@TNCo230 raaa that is interesting! There absolutely has to be a connection there! Great thing about folkloric characters is that the state/church has no way to stop the spread and transmission of their stories so they last for ever! Lithuania isn't really close to Greece either is it? Would be interesting to see if other neighbouring cultures have their own version too.
Needed this
What an excellent and timely idea for a little video...
I feel like the narrator is treating our hero a bit unfairly. On their first meeting the Vampire presents herself as 1) hot, 2) rich, 3) available, and 4) possibly in to him. Most of us would fail to maintain higher brain functions in that scenario.
Might become a history teacher now, who knows
They will only allow the teaching of false history now
@@chemskiesukvol.2covid19isbs hey everybody! This person is special and "can see through the media!" Drop what your doing, disregard all bodies of academic knowledge, burn your degrees and just do what they tell you!
@@josephbolton5199 you are cringe
@@jimbochungus more than a grade nine dropout who doesn't understand the levels of academic rigour that goes into historical research, so he thinks that reading some unsubstantiated claims on the internet makes him an expert, but also, deep down inside, he is aware that he'll never be recognized as an expert, so at every opportunity he makes vague inferences of a conspiracy amongst the elitist gatekeepers of knowledge to exclude him?... Ok.
@@josephbolton5199 major cringe bro
Ah! The Lamia! Always a good story!
One of my favorites.
this was great, id love to see a video on ghost stories in antiquity as well
6:23 he knew what was going down, dude was just cool with that tradeoff 😂
I especially liked the visuals that accompanied your telling of the stories. There is something about roman painting of human characters that is upset-ling. Take @6:20 for example. the bodies a perfection of grace and elegance in a dance especially the woman. But the faces. The faces always have a stern intense and severe look from anachronistic eyes. It's the look of fear and intimidation. I could venture an interpretation of it, but it would be a guess. I've seen that expression on roman paintings before. I believe this is the a glimpse into these people's psychology and i see something we do not have today. Something in between civilization, and barbarism, something in between anarchy and the social contract of society.
Lamias back then: horrific vampires that want to eat you
Lamias nowadays: cute waifus you want to be eaten by
Dude. That was awesome
Loving these halloween episodes thank you so much
This happened to my buddy Lazlo back in college.
Very interesting! Love your videos!
there needs to be a horror film set in ancient rome
Greece
"Sandy!"
I saw a movie called kingdom Or rampant set in josean Korea... I think something like that would be awesome set In ancient Greece
In Theravada Buddhism, there is a traditional practice known as Sacca-kiriya or an “act of truth,” a type of protective blessing that involved chanting something incontrovertibly true, and then saying, “By the power of this truth, may there be such-and-such.”
The Gene Wolfe novel "The Sorcerer's House" is based on this particular Lamia story, and is one of my favorite Wolfe novels. The whole narrative is a trick within a trick. Would highly recommend. Horror and Fantasy, but really just a Horror novel under it all.
I never knew about this. Very interesting stuff. I am not a fan of horror, normally. Vampires are, however, symbolically interesting. I guess that is why they appear in so many literary traditions.
Excellent video! I posted it on Twitter. 🙏
Thanks for the Halloween stories!
You are, without doubt, an amazing historian.
I'm buying that book.
Turning on these post notifications was one of the best decisions I've made lol
Good philosophical tale, well illustrated.
Those paintings are terrifying
But if Venice existed, does this mean it is a Byzantine myth rather than Ancient Greece?
Was Corinth a big trading city during Byzantine times?
Thank you for these vids sir
You know, that first story really reminds me alot of a couples stories I heard about Jorogumo in Japanese folklore. Some things are universal. Keep an eye out for strange women.
Darn Phoenicians and their trickery.
4:55 it's an actual dragon, feet and all, it's only missing is the wings!
Pretty crazy.
good storytelling. good images.
subbed! 👍🏼
Best yet!
Vampire stories are told in many, maybe all, cultures around the world. They must develop out of some universal human fear (or desire?).
Jesus drinks wine 🍷 do you want?
Weird ain’t it? Ye wonderful!
Just by the thumbnail i thought you would be talk about "the Grinch in ancient greece"
It's your boi HP Lovecraft back at you again with the fish people
That last story was legitimately creepy
The story is somewhat reminiscent of Lamia by Keats, in which the spell of the Lamia is detroyed by a philosopher
With its hypnotic "gaze" - sure, sure. Let's go with that.
someone in a discord server suggested this video because i was talking about a vampire story i'm working on
Rock on, Garrett!
*Would you like to join me for a dinner?*
What's on the menu?
*Well...something Greek for sure* 😈
the lamia is such a cool monster. if i were a gifted artist i’d sketch one munching on its latest meal coiled within its serpentine physique
Monster Girl Encyclopedia / Monster Musume / Monster Girl Quest artists:
"Best I can offer is a lamia "enjoying" its latest "meal" instead ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)."
I'm pretty sure there's a huge market for that kind of "art" on certain corners of the internet
We need a good director to make these stories into movies. dark horror supernatural with a touch of psychological film. Greetings from 🇨🇴
I recommend the movie Kwaidan 🍿
Love this channel
Really enjoyed the video! But are there only mentions of female shaped "vampires"? Or also of male? I can't find anything on this online
Very glad you enjoyed the video! As far as I can tell, vampires were always female in Greek myth and folklore. Then again, our stock of stories is very small...
The first story:
"I'm just a teeenage dir- Uh, ancient Grecian vampire babyyyy"
This channel is awsome
4:50 and big fat honkers
the philosopher released her genjutsu
“Like the horror movie character he is” LMFAOOO BYE-
Big brain content.
5:05 The Strix, sounds like basis for Jeepers Creepers.
Only part I didn't get was how the vampire in the first myth was a wife of a Venetian. The timeline doesn't add up if we take into account that the story is ancient.
I had no idea vampires were so ancient.
4:07 to 4:12
“I KNOW! That was the point!”