From what I heard, a lot less spells for rangers require concentration, as well as some spells being reworked, which i think could be a game changer. I'm hoping thats where rangers glow up is coming from
@@DaWishard I’ve heard the same thing and I know the hunters mark in the playtest had upcasting too (even though it also said it only worked on the FIRST attack each turn). I’m still hopeful. I feel like there’s got to be something there for them to have been this high on it.
Dont WotC own the Artificer? Why the blazes dont they just add ut?? Also did the Expert/ Mage/ Warrior/ Priest system get scrapped and why?? I loved the categorizing!
I wish the warlock cap stone ability let them regain one of their mystic arcanum. Being the only spellcaster that can cast two 9th level spells a day would go a long way in making up for having so few spell slots
The Sorcerer may have become my favorite class in the game with this update. Barbarian was already no. 1 for me in 5e, and that's mostly thanks to Rage & the reflavoring of it and subclasses. It was always so much fun to come up with how a character would express their rage, or the Giant Barbs size, or to make my own table for the Wild Magic Barbarian! Now they've made the Sorcerer feel even more like the Rage Mage I was asking for and I already liked the metamagic & subclasses they provided so this is great! The Warlock looks like it'll be the perfect class for players who enjoy more customization options in class features. It's the most pathfinder esque of any class, and not having to agonize as much over Invos & Pact Boons is such a nice change. The updates they made to GOOlock & Fiend are basically mirror images of my own homebrew (not that I'm accusing or anything ofc) so the transition there will be super smooth as well. Monk definitely got the upgrades it needed in the combat department and it's nice to see. Personally I don't like how they failed to address the bonus action economy problem, but at least those features themselves are improved. You along with many talk about flavor loss with Ranger, but I'd argue Monk is actually still suffering more. Outside of combat Monk practically got nothing, meanwhile at least Ranger can now use it's flavorful rituals now without cost. I would've liked to see some kind of meditation feature that gives you cool interactions outside of combat.
You make a keen observation about the monk outside of combat here! Although I do feel like their maneuverability and dexterity might make them fairly useful in exploration scenarios. I wonder if they're intentionally leaving room for the Ranger and Rogue to shine as skill experts.
@@ConstructedChaos Don’t know if you noticed but its possible for human rogues to have proficiencies in 13 skills at level 1, if they pick up Skilled twice at character creation.
Being a Sorlock main has never been so sexy...even without Hexblade's Curse, this combo looks insanely potent with a 2 level Warlock dip, just as before
Reading the text of twinned spell it seems that being able to use it on spells that can upcast for additional targets is a buff, not a restriction as it says "now allows" and not "can only be used on" thus removing the limitation that previously prevented using it on eldritch blast.
I have the book and I can tell you that my interpretation here is correct. What you're seeing is from the article WOTC published so it has a bit of positive spin on it.
AM Sorc joins the Paladin with having an ability that is as good as useless ... what does casting with sorc pts bring you, when there is only niche and **** spells avail to use it on. The only power "increase" it gets is from the base sorcerer updates, but AM & CW are now at least 1-2 tiers below draconic now
Aberrant Mind may now be the strongest spellcaster while they still have Sorcery Points. A level 6 Aberrant can cast their Aberrant spells using Sorcery points instead of using "Spell Slots." This bypasses the new spellcasting rule where "you can only cast one spell using a slot spell per turn." With quickened spell you could cast Fireball using a spell slot as a Bonus Action and then use your Action to cast your Abberant Hunger of Hadar for 3 Sorcery Points instead of using a spell slot. Boom, two strong level 3 spells on a single turn. Om nom's the Sorcery Points though.
While I absolutely love the new Sorcerer, the changes to the Aberrant Mind are a huge hit to the subclass both mechanically and flavor wise (same with the Clockwork Soul to a lesser extent). A lot of its versatility was taken away and none of the spells it gets changed. Quite a few of the spells are niche and won't see much use (clockwork soul gets off even worse in this regard). Since the spells are fixed, this ruins any character that wants to be a "generic psionic". The Aberrant Mind is the closest we are ever going to get to getting a psionic class, so taking away the ability to swap around the spells makes it far harder to pull that type of character off. If you do try, there is going to be a huge discinnect between you and your Jean Grey or Eleven type character being able to summon tentacles. Now every Aberrant Mind sorcerer is forced to stick with an alien theme (granted there has always been a bit of a disconnect with the 14th lvl feature, but most people don't get to play up to that level so it isn't a problem for most players). What makes it even worse is that the subclass was balanced around the fact that you could switch out the spells. It's part of the reason why the Clockwork Soul's and Aberrant Mind's other 1st level features are relatively weak compared. The very tiny change to telepathic speech doesn't make up for it being one of the weakest versions of telepathy a subclass can give you. Other versions of telepathy now either give you a much longer duration and/or allow you to target multiple creatures. Psionic Sorcery took an even bigger hit than than not being able to ignore non-consumed M components. Since we are no longer able to switch out spells, I lot of spells you'd normally want to subtle cast aren't available. Psionic spells doesn't have spells like charm person or suggestion. Sure, there are still a few spells on there that you may want to subtle cast, but that's a far departure from potentially all of the spells being worth subtle casting. What makes it even worse is that subtle spell was improved to ignore noncostly M components so psionic sorcery now offers you a worse version. The only reason to use it now is to technically reduced cost of subtle casting a spell. Personally, I think the Aberrant Mind is the worst sorcerer subclass in the 2024 phb. It's lost pretty much all of its good qualities. It honestly feels like a slap in the face considering how good the GOOlock turned out.
Aberrant Mind may now be the strongest spellcaster while they still have Sorcery Points. A level 6 Aberrant can cast their Aberrant spells using Sorcery points instead of using "Spell Slots." This bypasses the new spellcasting rule where "you can only cast one spell using a slot spell per turn" rule. With quickened spell you could cast Fireball using a spell slot as a Bonus Action and then use your Action to cast your Abberant Hunger of Hadar for 3 Sorcery Points instead of using a spell slot.
@@jaysonburke6839 I get what you are saying, but that would require a HUGE amount of sorcery points. If you use this on your highest level spell, that is going to drain you of all but 1 sorcery point. Since this is limited to Psionic Spells, there aren't many combos that would be worth using since a lot of the spells are focused on utility that aren't really meant for combat.
@jaysonburke6839 One neat interaction doesn't change the fact that the whole rest of the subclass looks clunky. And you're gonna get stuck with that subclass since you gotta dump 6 levels into it to pull off that maneuver. Six levels is A LOT. And, as it was mentioned, the whole reason a good chunk of players liked AM was because it was the best option for making a proper "psion" character thanks to it's spell-switching versatility, which is just gone now. I think the best option for making that type of character now is gonna be GooLock with maybe a 2 level dip in base Sorc for that cool "magic rage" feature and Subtle Metamagic. Happy for all you Lovecraft enthusiasts, you got nothing to worry about. But yeah, personally devastated by these AM changes.
@jaysonburke6839 One neat interaction doesn't change the fact that the rest of the subclass looks clunky. And you're gonna be stuck with a big chunk of said subclass since you gotta take 6 levels to pull off that maneuver. 6 levels is A LOT. Also, as was mentioned, a lot of people mainly liked AM due to it currently being the best option for making a proper "psion" character thanks to the option of switching out some spells. That's completely gone now. I'm happy for all you Lovecraft enthusiasts out there, y'all got nothing to worry about. But personally, I'm devastated by these changes...
I actually think that the new update to twin spell meta-magic is a secret buff. Before if you wanted to twin spell banishment, it would cost you 4 sorcery points, now it only cost 1. Although it restrict you from twinning spells such as disintegrate, other spells become significantly cheaper to twin. I think it’s a slight shift in play style more than a direct nerf
I like your outlook and I'm inclined to agree to a certain extent. I think I preferred the flexibility of the old version but only spending 1 only point on it does definitely make me feel better!
It'll be a case by case basis as some really strong options were still hit for optimizing. Overall though it was a smart change for making the whole metamagic lineup more balanced and cleanly worded.
@@malmasterson3890 I agree with you. I can absolutely see why people would be upset with the change. But overall, I think it is good for the health of the game. Also, great video, Mr. chaos. The formatting was wonderful, and you did a great job of outlining all of the new features in a clear and concise manner. 10 out of 10.
As a Sorc main, I could not be happier! My first toon from the new PHB is gunna be a Draconic bloodline Dragonborn. I'm actually hyped about pretty much every change to the Sorcerer and more specifically the DrConic Bloodline Sorcerer. Also, for the first time in years I'd actually be interested in trying a new class. The Warrior of the Elements Monks look pretty sick now. It feels like they are not only more viable in combat than ever but they also gave them more out of combat flavor as well with things like the Elementalism cantrip. It's gunna be a good year, I can feel it! Can't wait to try them both. Great video!!
I'm not happy. They nerfed the hell out of Clockwork Soul. Also, I'm not sold on the innate sorcery ability. Sure a +1 on the DC is nice, but not enough to push them into best class in the game status.
@@thedude0000 Yeah, I get the frustration but I bet a savvy DM would let you switch out your Clockwork spells. The rest of it is Big wins though; We get more spells prepared, we can trade out Meta-Magics and one Cantrip per level, not only does innate Sorcery give a + 1 to the Spell save DC but it also gives advantage on attacks with Sorcery Spells and after level 7 allows you to use a second Meta-Magic on a single Spell, improved Sorcerous Restoration at level 5 means I don't ever have to dip into friggin Warlock ever again. I'm honestly having a hard time finding anything to complain about...
@@PainCheeZe Now, I 100% do love the ability to do two meta magics on one spell. As for the advantage on attack spells, aside from a Sorlock, I don't think it'll be as big a deal as people think. Again, just my opinion.
Still left out Gem dragon ancestries from the Draconic Bloodli...erm Sorcery! Must be hard to just slot in officialy huh? I do it myself but prefer the weight the official print have ( also argument vs some DMs😂 ) BTW! I DONT get what they were smoking butchering the Ranger, adding Tasha stuff sure but smearing the pieces all over the levels and killing its identity. I say the Ranger should be able to conentrate on TWO consentration spells as 1 solution. Per short rest. Hunters Mark is neat but scales poorly and the capstone is a joke! Seems they have this dopamine OCD thing to NEED a bad class. 10 more years to MAYBE get a Ranger redeemed on par with new Monk? If, I bet they gut the Monk again or some other class. The Paladin is doing fine even though Smite is not AS unique..
@@ConstructedChaos The thing is they didnt even update the Draconic Bloodline in Fizbans with Gem Ancestries. Guess lack of space/ time. The Necrotic, Force, Psychic, Thunder, Radiant is no worse or better than Fire, Cold, Lightning, Poison and Acid. Sure force hit like a truck vs alot of monsters.. but! The force resistance you get is near useless vs the few besties that do use it. And necrotic, poison is crap offensive vs undead but a blessing getting those resistances😅 Be it as breath attacks/ spells and resistances/ immunites. It all balances it out in the end. Im playing as a Topaz dragonborn with Amethyst draconic bloodline ancestry. Necrotic Force ftw! Feels balanced actually in the 12 levels Ive progressed
Damn, Divine Soul and Kensai monk didn’t make it. Still hyped about the new monk and sorc! If they bring back Kensei, I think making the focus around adding emphasis on a single weapon, rather than a lot of them, would fit the class better. Kensei literally means (sword saint), yet it played more like a sohei (war monk). It’d also give us that roleplay fantasy as a wandering swordmaster
You're absolutely right about that. I actually didn't put two and two together until I was editing the video. it's the same feature but it works through the new magical cunning ability. Still, I think the other improvements warrant its place on this list, regardless.
So, what’s the Idea of warlock not choosing it pact until 3, or sorcerer for that matter. Your power is tied to the choice. RP wise it feels awkward. Do level 2 warlocks not have a patron yet, have lv2 sorcerers not manifested their bloodline?
@@whitehawkomega it is easy to roleplay you already having made a pact with a patron at lvl 1, but it not giving these specific powers until level 3, is it not? Other than that, warlocks can be considered to have arcane spellcasting like wizards/sorcerers at these earlier levels, just less developed, UNTIL their hungry minds start making these pacts for a power boost. I like the idea of the warlock being an arcanist that searchers for various external sources of power, which explains their invocations, pact boons etc. So I do in fact believe this is an improvement to the class rather than a detriment, as before, the pact magic feature entirely dependent on one single patron felt like a liability, as what would happen when you fall out of grace by said patron?
The idea is that between levels 1 - 3, the warlock might be dissatisfied with the patron and have buyer's remorse. At level 3, the warlock can now make a new (permanent) pact going forward.
NDA is supposed to end tomorrow. So is this based on actual PHB 2024 or UA Playtest and Interviews? Warlock has one (two at 11+ level) more spell slot per day and two more invocations (at least according to UA). The bigger invocation number is not so big buff for warlock, because you have to get your Pacts which are not free anymore So, why are Warlocks supposed to be "insane" now?
The NDA doesn't apply to me because I didn't sign one but I also wasn't given the book as a result. I'll be getting my copy tomorrow at Gencon so I'll start making specific class guides at that point but it's easy enough to figure out what's in there by comparing their articles, promo videos, and the playtests.
Paladin getting nerfed on Smites is fine with me now; we can take Celestialock and still get almost every benefit from Hexblade ON TOP OF three attacks at level 12 lock :D Good things
@@ConstructedChaos 2024 Warlock Invocations pretty much built Hexblade functions into the core class Warlock with attacks using charisma and multi-attack with Thirsting and Devouring Blade. Aside from losing the actual subclass class ability Hexblade Curse which just opens the crit range to 19-20 and heal on hexed enemy destruction, the spell Hex has been improved to nearly match how powerful the subclass ability used to be. :D I'm already ready for a strong Glory/Celestial Paladin Warlock Goliath
Yeah. Oathbreaker 8 or 7/Celestial 12 or 13 gets +cha attacks x3 with aura of hate, x2 smites per turn, +cha on divine smites, divine favor/magic weapon/elemental weapon x3, spirit shroud x3. So even if you don’t hive any smites left, you still deal a ton of damage.
I'd sure love to know what happened to summon dragon/draconic spirit; for how I like to play draconic sorcerers, that's the key feature. I really hope they didn't nerf it.
I believe this change was made to make it easier to play the game online using their proposed VTT. It made programming easier since all classes now have a similar template with 3rd level subclass options.
It may not be super flashy but tactical mind, tactical shift, studied attacks, and the 3 weapon masteries in the pocket at level 9 stack up. Plus the reworks for eldritch knight and even champion are almost perfect.
The only thing is sure is that at my table Twinned Spell and the Paladin’s Smite will be the 2014 version, why change into a worst version? By the way the new Monk seems pretty solid. 🤔
Imo, you are all sleeping on the Rogue because he is no longer a damage dealer. His new sneak atk debuffs sound awesome. Don't believe me? The new ancient green dragon has a +7 Con save. A 17th level rogue with 20 dex has a save DC of 19. That's a 60% chance of making a CR21 creature with 402hp unconscious with each hit. Worst case scenario, the dragon has to burn a legendary resistance on a normal melee atk that the rogue can use at-will. And now you get reliable talent and evasion at lv7, meaning two of the best 2014 rogue abilities will see way more playtime.
You lose ALL credibility when you say quivering palm is not a flat out terrible nerf in 2024. Its NOT that much damage given the resource cost. Its terrible. Monks got some buffs, but those are merely bringing it to the base effective level of 2014 and dont make them anywhere near top tier. So they didnt go far enough, the stunning strike nerf was not needed. If people just want to try stunning creatures let em...they'll run out of Ki. Further, they SHOULD have gotten an Unarmed Strike Weapon Mastery only for them, that would allow them to grapple or shove with an unarmed strike along with damage. It was RIGHT there given the changes they made to Unarmed Strike. Wasted potential. Warlocks...they STILL didnt actually address the core request of the Warlock class, is to give them more slots. They should have increased the slots to 6-8 make a smoother transition through the levels. Yes, that might give them more higher level castings 1-5 than other casters, but its off set by having a smaller list, and relient on short rests that a DM might or might not implement across all tables. As for Sorc and metamagic changes...ya more crap. Sure again, they may have some plus ups, but no way would I use the new Twin Spell option if ever given the chance not to. Dumb change.
Thanks for weighing in here! I appreciate your opinion but I do have to point out that this information was mostly based on what was released before the book came out. In any case, I stand by most of it. Quivering palm is definitely a downgrade from what it was before but I'm okay with that since the subclass is a bit more front-loaded now. Warlocks were adjusted in a way that feels unique rather than being just another spellcaster and I honestly dig the direction they went in (plus they're still going to be very strong as a multiclass thanks to the pact of the blade update). Oh, and don't sleep on the sorcerer. Other commenters have pointed out that twinned spell also only costs 1 sorcery point now. It's definitely not as good as it was but I stand by what I said in the video: It feels similar to the nerf that stunning strike got wherein it encourages using the other options (most of which got a boost). Anyway, thanks for watching! Even if we disagree, I hope you enjoyed the video!
@@ConstructedChaos Fair enough. But my issue is with all these nerfs that it is the devs seeing a game style they may not like and decided that they should force everyone else not to do it. I dont like that kinda of heavy handed tactics. If someone wants to spend all the resources stunning striking, let em...they will run out pretty quick. I dont think it leads to more interesting game play, which is why I am reversing the nerfs in my games. They had some decent thoughts, but taking the nerf bat to things that didnt need it, just doesnt sit well. Its just lazy to me.
@@shadowmancer99I disagree with you that it was lazy or that it won’t make the game more interesting but I fully support you in your endeavor to run the best game you can for your table! Happy adventuring and let me know how it goes with some of the nerfs reversed. I’m genuinely curious to find out!
@@ConstructedChaos I am making it simple for my players, use whatever version you want of a spell, feature, etc. Since they decided to NOT call it a new edition, I think its fair to think of this as one big buffet of rules, might as well let people play with all the toys.
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For real!! I'm still so upset they missed the mark there. But I should have the book in my hands tomorrow and I'll be able to know for sure.
From what I heard, a lot less spells for rangers require concentration, as well as some spells being reworked, which i think could be a game changer. I'm hoping thats where rangers glow up is coming from
@@DaWishard I’ve heard the same thing and I know the hunters mark in the playtest had upcasting too (even though it also said it only worked on the FIRST attack each turn). I’m still hopeful. I feel like there’s got to be something there for them to have been this high on it.
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I thought 2024 was gonna be my first time playing ranger. Guess I’ll wait for 2034.
I am very excited to try out each class. *sad artificer main noises*
I knowwwww!! But they have to sell more eberron books somehow haha. At least the old version is still compatible!
Dont WotC own the Artificer? Why the blazes dont they just add ut?? Also did the Expert/ Mage/ Warrior/ Priest system get scrapped and why?? I loved the categorizing!
They mentioned they're going to add artificer sometime after PHB with "fun new additions", so you shouldn't have to wait long
I wish the warlock cap stone ability let them regain one of their mystic arcanum. Being the only spellcaster that can cast two 9th level spells a day would go a long way in making up for having so few spell slots
The Sorcerer may have become my favorite class in the game with this update. Barbarian was already no. 1 for me in 5e, and that's mostly thanks to Rage & the reflavoring of it and subclasses. It was always so much fun to come up with how a character would express their rage, or the Giant Barbs size, or to make my own table for the Wild Magic Barbarian! Now they've made the Sorcerer feel even more like the Rage Mage I was asking for and I already liked the metamagic & subclasses they provided so this is great!
The Warlock looks like it'll be the perfect class for players who enjoy more customization options in class features. It's the most pathfinder esque of any class, and not having to agonize as much over Invos & Pact Boons is such a nice change. The updates they made to GOOlock & Fiend are basically mirror images of my own homebrew (not that I'm accusing or anything ofc) so the transition there will be super smooth as well.
Monk definitely got the upgrades it needed in the combat department and it's nice to see. Personally I don't like how they failed to address the bonus action economy problem, but at least those features themselves are improved. You along with many talk about flavor loss with Ranger, but I'd argue Monk is actually still suffering more. Outside of combat Monk practically got nothing, meanwhile at least Ranger can now use it's flavorful rituals now without cost. I would've liked to see some kind of meditation feature that gives you cool interactions outside of combat.
You make a keen observation about the monk outside of combat here! Although I do feel like their maneuverability and dexterity might make them fairly useful in exploration scenarios. I wonder if they're intentionally leaving room for the Ranger and Rogue to shine as skill experts.
@@ConstructedChaos Don’t know if you noticed but its possible for human rogues to have proficiencies in 13 skills at level 1, if they pick up Skilled twice at character creation.
@@malmasterson3890 a traveling/ teleportation monk through “the plains of existence”
Being a Sorlock main has never been so sexy...even without Hexblade's Curse, this combo looks insanely potent with a 2 level Warlock dip, just as before
Reading the text of twinned spell it seems that being able to use it on spells that can upcast for additional targets is a buff, not a restriction as it says "now allows" and not "can only be used on" thus removing the limitation that previously prevented using it on eldritch blast.
I have the book and I can tell you that my interpretation here is correct. What you're seeing is from the article WOTC published so it has a bit of positive spin on it.
AM Sorc joins the Paladin with having an ability that is as good as useless ... what does casting with sorc pts bring you, when there is only niche and **** spells avail to use it on. The only power "increase" it gets is from the base sorcerer updates, but AM & CW are now at least 1-2 tiers below draconic now
Aberrant Mind may now be the strongest spellcaster while they still have Sorcery Points. A level 6 Aberrant can cast their Aberrant spells using Sorcery points instead of using "Spell Slots." This bypasses the new spellcasting rule where "you can only cast one spell using a slot spell per turn." With quickened spell you could cast Fireball using a spell slot as a Bonus Action and then use your Action to cast your Abberant Hunger of Hadar for 3 Sorcery Points instead of using a spell slot. Boom, two strong level 3 spells on a single turn. Om nom's the Sorcery Points though.
While I absolutely love the new Sorcerer, the changes to the Aberrant Mind are a huge hit to the subclass both mechanically and flavor wise (same with the Clockwork Soul to a lesser extent).
A lot of its versatility was taken away and none of the spells it gets changed. Quite a few of the spells are niche and won't see much use (clockwork soul gets off even worse in this regard). Since the spells are fixed, this ruins any character that wants to be a "generic psionic". The Aberrant Mind is the closest we are ever going to get to getting a psionic class, so taking away the ability to swap around the spells makes it far harder to pull that type of character off. If you do try, there is going to be a huge discinnect between you and your Jean Grey or Eleven type character being able to summon tentacles. Now every Aberrant Mind sorcerer is forced to stick with an alien theme (granted there has always been a bit of a disconnect with the 14th lvl feature, but most people don't get to play up to that level so it isn't a problem for most players).
What makes it even worse is that the subclass was balanced around the fact that you could switch out the spells. It's part of the reason why the Clockwork Soul's and Aberrant Mind's other 1st level features are relatively weak compared. The very tiny change to telepathic speech doesn't make up for it being one of the weakest versions of telepathy a subclass can give you. Other versions of telepathy now either give you a much longer duration and/or allow you to target multiple creatures.
Psionic Sorcery took an even bigger hit than than not being able to ignore non-consumed M components. Since we are no longer able to switch out spells, I lot of spells you'd normally want to subtle cast aren't available. Psionic spells doesn't have spells like charm person or suggestion. Sure, there are still a few spells on there that you may want to subtle cast, but that's a far departure from potentially all of the spells being worth subtle casting. What makes it even worse is that subtle spell was improved to ignore noncostly M components so psionic sorcery now offers you a worse version. The only reason to use it now is to technically reduced cost of subtle casting a spell.
Personally, I think the Aberrant Mind is the worst sorcerer subclass in the 2024 phb. It's lost pretty much all of its good qualities. It honestly feels like a slap in the face considering how good the GOOlock turned out.
Aberrant Mind may now be the strongest spellcaster while they still have Sorcery Points. A level 6 Aberrant can cast their Aberrant spells using Sorcery points instead of using "Spell Slots." This bypasses the new spellcasting rule where "you can only cast one spell using a slot spell per turn" rule. With quickened spell you could cast Fireball using a spell slot as a Bonus Action and then use your Action to cast your Abberant Hunger of Hadar for 3 Sorcery Points instead of using a spell slot.
@@jaysonburke6839 I get what you are saying, but that would require a HUGE amount of sorcery points. If you use this on your highest level spell, that is going to drain you of all but 1 sorcery point. Since this is limited to Psionic Spells, there aren't many combos that would be worth using since a lot of the spells are focused on utility that aren't really meant for combat.
@jaysonburke6839 One neat interaction doesn't change the fact that the whole rest of the subclass looks clunky. And you're gonna get stuck with that subclass since you gotta dump 6 levels into it to pull off that maneuver. Six levels is A LOT.
And, as it was mentioned, the whole reason a good chunk of players liked AM was because it was the best option for making a proper "psion" character thanks to it's spell-switching versatility, which is just gone now.
I think the best option for making that type of character now is gonna be GooLock with maybe a 2 level dip in base Sorc for that cool "magic rage" feature and Subtle Metamagic.
Happy for all you Lovecraft enthusiasts, you got nothing to worry about. But yeah, personally devastated by these AM changes.
@jaysonburke6839 One neat interaction doesn't change the fact that the rest of the subclass looks clunky. And you're gonna be stuck with a big chunk of said subclass since you gotta take 6 levels to pull off that maneuver. 6 levels is A LOT.
Also, as was mentioned, a lot of people mainly liked AM due to it currently being the best option for making a proper "psion" character thanks to the option of switching out some spells. That's completely gone now.
I'm happy for all you Lovecraft enthusiasts out there, y'all got nothing to worry about. But personally, I'm devastated by these changes...
I actually think that the new update to twin spell meta-magic is a secret buff.
Before if you wanted to twin spell banishment, it would cost you 4 sorcery points, now it only cost 1.
Although it restrict you from twinning spells such as disintegrate, other spells become significantly cheaper to twin. I think it’s a slight shift in play style more than a direct nerf
I like your outlook and I'm inclined to agree to a certain extent. I think I preferred the flexibility of the old version but only spending 1 only point on it does definitely make me feel better!
It'll be a case by case basis as some really strong options were still hit for optimizing. Overall though it was a smart change for making the whole metamagic lineup more balanced and cleanly worded.
@@malmasterson3890 I agree with you. I can absolutely see why people would be upset with the change. But overall, I think it is good for the health of the game.
Also, great video, Mr. chaos. The formatting was wonderful, and you did a great job of outlining all of the new features in a clear and concise manner. 10 out of 10.
@@taylorsmith1720 thank you so much!! I can’t wait to put out some more as soon as I get my hands on the book tomorrow. I’m glad you enjoyed this one!
Just as a clarification, the range increase from the warrior of elements is 10 addition the feet.
@@jibbyjackjoe thank you! I’m actually working on my full monk guide right now and I’ll make sure to get that right there.
As a Sorc main, I could not be happier! My first toon from the new PHB is gunna be a Draconic bloodline Dragonborn. I'm actually hyped about pretty much every change to the Sorcerer and more specifically the DrConic Bloodline Sorcerer. Also, for the first time in years I'd actually be interested in trying a new class. The Warrior of the Elements Monks look pretty sick now. It feels like they are not only more viable in combat than ever but they also gave them more out of combat flavor as well with things like the Elementalism cantrip. It's gunna be a good year, I can feel it! Can't wait to try them both. Great video!!
Well said! I feel exactly the same way. Happy adventuring to you and your Dragonborn sorcerer!!
I'm not happy. They nerfed the hell out of Clockwork Soul. Also, I'm not sold on the innate sorcery ability. Sure a +1 on the DC is nice, but not enough to push them into best class in the game status.
@@thedude0000 Yeah, I get the frustration but I bet a savvy DM would let you switch out your Clockwork spells. The rest of it is Big wins though; We get more spells prepared, we can trade out Meta-Magics and one Cantrip per level, not only does innate Sorcery give a + 1 to the Spell save DC but it also gives advantage on attacks with Sorcery Spells and after level 7 allows you to use a second Meta-Magic on a single Spell, improved Sorcerous Restoration at level 5 means I don't ever have to dip into friggin Warlock ever again. I'm honestly having a hard time finding anything to complain about...
@@PainCheeZe Now, I 100% do love the ability to do two meta magics on one spell.
As for the advantage on attack spells, aside from a Sorlock, I don't think it'll be as big a deal as people think. Again, just my opinion.
Wow they really hate Ranger huh
Still left out Gem dragon ancestries from the Draconic Bloodli...erm Sorcery! Must be hard to just slot in officialy huh? I do it myself but prefer the weight the official print have ( also argument vs some DMs😂 ) BTW!
I DONT get what they were smoking butchering the Ranger, adding Tasha stuff sure but smearing the pieces all over the levels and killing its identity. I say the Ranger should be able to conentrate on TWO consentration spells as 1 solution. Per short rest. Hunters Mark is neat but scales poorly and the capstone is a joke! Seems they have this dopamine OCD thing to NEED a bad class. 10 more years to MAYBE get a Ranger redeemed on par with new Monk? If, I bet they gut the Monk again or some other class. The Paladin is doing fine even though Smite is not AS unique..
Haha Did they leave out the gem dragon ancestries? Damn! Why release fizbans if you aren't going to make it the status quo, you know?
@@ConstructedChaos The thing is they didnt even update the Draconic Bloodline in Fizbans with Gem Ancestries. Guess lack of space/ time. The Necrotic, Force, Psychic, Thunder, Radiant is no worse or better than Fire, Cold, Lightning, Poison and Acid. Sure force hit like a truck vs alot of monsters.. but! The force resistance you get is near useless vs the few besties that do use it. And necrotic, poison is crap offensive vs undead but a blessing getting those resistances😅 Be it as breath attacks/ spells and resistances/ immunites. It all balances it out in the end. Im playing as a Topaz dragonborn with Amethyst draconic bloodline ancestry. Necrotic Force ftw! Feels balanced actually in the 12 levels Ive progressed
Make it so rangers can conc on another spell only when also concing on HM if you really want to. Double conc on any spells is too OP.
Damn, Divine Soul and Kensai monk didn’t make it. Still hyped about the new monk and sorc!
If they bring back Kensei, I think making the focus around adding emphasis on a single weapon, rather than a lot of them, would fit the class better. Kensei literally means (sword saint), yet it played more like a sohei (war monk). It’d also give us that roleplay fantasy as a wandering swordmaster
HAH… “to kick things off” when talking about the Monk… don’t know if you intended the pun but I loved it anyways
Oh I always intend it hahaha I'm glad you enjoyed that one!
My only complaint about the Warlock is that its level 20 feature is not only just a boost of their level 2 feature, but it's exactly the same as 2015.
You're absolutely right about that. I actually didn't put two and two together until I was editing the video. it's the same feature but it works through the new magical cunning ability. Still, I think the other improvements warrant its place on this list, regardless.
The new twinned spell makes sense and is probably good for the game, though I will be sad to no longer twin guiding bolt as a divine soul sorcerer
Yeah I completely agree with you and their decision. It could even be better in some situations but it stings a little nonetheless haha
So, what’s the Idea of warlock not choosing it pact until 3, or sorcerer for that matter. Your power is tied to the choice. RP wise it feels awkward. Do level 2 warlocks not have a patron yet, have lv2 sorcerers not manifested their bloodline?
@@whitehawkomega it is easy to roleplay you already having made a pact with a patron at lvl 1, but it not giving these specific powers until level 3, is it not?
Other than that, warlocks can be considered to have arcane spellcasting like wizards/sorcerers at these earlier levels, just less developed, UNTIL their hungry minds start making these pacts for a power boost.
I like the idea of the warlock being an arcanist that searchers for various external sources of power, which explains their invocations, pact boons etc.
So I do in fact believe this is an improvement to the class rather than a detriment, as before, the pact magic feature entirely dependent on one single patron felt like a liability, as what would happen when you fall out of grace by said patron?
The idea is that between levels 1 - 3, the warlock might be dissatisfied with the patron and have buyer's remorse. At level 3, the warlock can now make a new (permanent) pact going forward.
NDA is supposed to end tomorrow. So is this based on actual PHB 2024 or UA Playtest and Interviews?
Warlock has one (two at 11+ level) more spell slot per day and two more invocations (at least according to UA).
The bigger invocation number is not so big buff for warlock, because you have to get your Pacts which are not free anymore
So, why are Warlocks supposed to be "insane" now?
The NDA doesn't apply to me because I didn't sign one but I also wasn't given the book as a result. I'll be getting my copy tomorrow at Gencon so I'll start making specific class guides at that point but it's easy enough to figure out what's in there by comparing their articles, promo videos, and the playtests.
Can you post the aberrant mind new list?
Anyone at all can answer this question... what species would you recommend for the new monk subclasses??
They will prob make weapon mastery for monk a kensei monk feature specifically to really set them apart from the other subclasses tbh
Paladin getting nerfed on Smites is fine with me now; we can take Celestialock and still get almost every benefit from Hexblade ON TOP OF three attacks at level 12 lock :D Good things
Worth noting that I don’t think you’d get hexblade subclass until warlock level 3 now but I’m not 100% sure on that… just 98%
@@ConstructedChaos 2024 Warlock Invocations pretty much built Hexblade functions into the core class Warlock with attacks using charisma and multi-attack with Thirsting and Devouring Blade. Aside from losing the actual subclass class ability Hexblade Curse which just opens the crit range to 19-20 and heal on hexed enemy destruction, the spell Hex has been improved to nearly match how powerful the subclass ability used to be. :D I'm already ready for a strong Glory/Celestial Paladin Warlock Goliath
@@ConstructedChaos you get it a level 1 with the pact of the blade invocation
Yeah. Oathbreaker 8 or 7/Celestial 12 or 13 gets +cha attacks x3 with aura of hate, x2 smites per turn, +cha on divine smites, divine favor/magic weapon/elemental weapon x3, spirit shroud x3. So even if you don’t hive any smites left, you still deal a ton of damage.
@@Paulo.Haller This is actually my current build but with hexblade, 9/3, +15 damage modifier, 2024 is going to go places lmao
another great video , thanks for the info .
Glad you liked it, Grym!! I’ll have more going up soon after I get my book today!
Warlock was already one of the strongest classes. Seems absolutely busted now.
The best class is the one you have fun playing 🙂
@@sortehuse Unless it's the ranger 😅
@@francescobanchini4281 I love rangers. That's one of my favourite classes 🙂 ... I think the 2024 beast master look really cool.
I'd sure love to know what happened to summon dragon/draconic spirit; for how I like to play draconic sorcerers, that's the key feature. I really hope they didn't nerf it.
It's pretty weird for Clerics and Warlocks to get your subclass at level 3, don't really like how they handled it.
I believe this change was made to make it easier to play the game online using their proposed VTT. It made programming easier since all classes now have a similar template with 3rd level subclass options.
My Wizard classes! No time or gold to add spells is nice but as far as I can tell they can’t copy what they want and only add spells when leveling.😥
Fighter should be up there as well. Its sooo good now.
It's funny you mention that! I almost put them in the video! I'm a huge fan of what they've done with fighter and weapon masteries in general.
It may not be super flashy but tactical mind, tactical shift, studied attacks, and the 3 weapon masteries in the pocket at level 9 stack up. Plus the reworks for eldritch knight and even champion are almost perfect.
@@michaelcolon4162 Playing EK rn and already convinced my DM to implement basically all the new tweaks before we even have the book.
The only thing is sure is that at my table Twinned Spell and the Paladin’s Smite will be the 2014 version, why change into a worst version?
By the way the new Monk seems pretty solid. 🤔
Did booming blade and green flame blade make it into the PHB? And if so, did they get fixed?
Didn’t make it, unfortunately :/
@@guyperson7487 Ty
I guess that was hoping for too much
@@johngallant1629 it is backwards compatible. You are still encouraged to use old things that weren’t included in the phb
Definitely improvements to the monk, but it's still a sad little class compared to the DC20 Monk.
Imo, you are all sleeping on the Rogue because he is no longer a damage dealer.
His new sneak atk debuffs sound awesome.
Don't believe me? The new ancient green dragon has a +7 Con save. A 17th level rogue with 20 dex has a save DC of 19. That's a 60% chance of making a CR21 creature with 402hp unconscious with each hit. Worst case scenario, the dragon has to burn a legendary resistance on a normal melee atk that the rogue can use at-will.
And now you get reliable talent and evasion at lv7, meaning two of the best 2014 rogue abilities will see way more playtime.
As a monk main, I'm kinda scared new players will think I pick monk because it's strong
The Monk looks like the most improved class
It needed it.
Magical Cunning should have been 1 action, not 1 minute.
Sorcerer is the only contender for the best class and even then the wizard and bard beats it
Does anyone, or has anyone played a ranger? 😂
Insane? Monk was weak sauce in 2014 now they are serviceable if you want op look at the bard
You lose ALL credibility when you say quivering palm is not a flat out terrible nerf in 2024. Its NOT that much damage given the resource cost. Its terrible. Monks got some buffs, but those are merely bringing it to the base effective level of 2014 and dont make them anywhere near top tier. So they didnt go far enough, the stunning strike nerf was not needed. If people just want to try stunning creatures let em...they'll run out of Ki. Further, they SHOULD have gotten an Unarmed Strike Weapon Mastery only for them, that would allow them to grapple or shove with an unarmed strike along with damage. It was RIGHT there given the changes they made to Unarmed Strike. Wasted potential.
Warlocks...they STILL didnt actually address the core request of the Warlock class, is to give them more slots. They should have increased the slots to 6-8 make a smoother transition through the levels. Yes, that might give them more higher level castings 1-5 than other casters, but its off set by having a smaller list, and relient on short rests that a DM might or might not implement across all tables.
As for Sorc and metamagic changes...ya more crap. Sure again, they may have some plus ups, but no way would I use the new Twin Spell option if ever given the chance not to. Dumb change.
Thanks for weighing in here! I appreciate your opinion but I do have to point out that this information was mostly based on what was released before the book came out. In any case, I stand by most of it. Quivering palm is definitely a downgrade from what it was before but I'm okay with that since the subclass is a bit more front-loaded now.
Warlocks were adjusted in a way that feels unique rather than being just another spellcaster and I honestly dig the direction they went in (plus they're still going to be very strong as a multiclass thanks to the pact of the blade update).
Oh, and don't sleep on the sorcerer. Other commenters have pointed out that twinned spell also only costs 1 sorcery point now. It's definitely not as good as it was but I stand by what I said in the video: It feels similar to the nerf that stunning strike got wherein it encourages using the other options (most of which got a boost).
Anyway, thanks for watching! Even if we disagree, I hope you enjoyed the video!
@@ConstructedChaos Fair enough. But my issue is with all these nerfs that it is the devs seeing a game style they may not like and decided that they should force everyone else not to do it. I dont like that kinda of heavy handed tactics. If someone wants to spend all the resources stunning striking, let em...they will run out pretty quick.
I dont think it leads to more interesting game play, which is why I am reversing the nerfs in my games. They had some decent thoughts, but taking the nerf bat to things that didnt need it, just doesnt sit well. Its just lazy to me.
@@shadowmancer99I disagree with you that it was lazy or that it won’t make the game more interesting but I fully support you in your endeavor to run the best game you can for your table! Happy adventuring and let me know how it goes with some of the nerfs reversed. I’m genuinely curious to find out!
@@ConstructedChaos I am making it simple for my players, use whatever version you want of a spell, feature, etc. Since they decided to NOT call it a new edition, I think its fair to think of this as one big buffet of rules, might as well let people play with all the toys.