How To Flick - Foil & Epee Fencing

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  • @marshallyaklin
    @marshallyaklin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    When I started fencing I wish there were more explanations like this out there. One thing though that I think is a potential pitfall in the way you explain the flick - at least for foil is how you're saying to tightly grip to accelerate the tip. For small shoulder and flank flicks it works but as soon as you start reaching for deeper target at closer distance if you grip too tightly you'll whiff or bounce out. I think it's important to note that you're pulling with your pinky and ring finger and almost pushing with your thumb and letting the grip move in your hand a little. This keeps your hand soft when the flick hits so the tip stays depressed longer. If you bait the counter attack and know you're going to finish deep to the back, if you tense your hand your flick only works at one distance. If you keep it soft with a really high hand, you can track closer target if someone is ducking and closing. If you tense your hand and wrist you'll never be able to hit back from infighting distance.

  • @travelfencerhokusai
    @travelfencerhokusai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Hello. I'm Japanese fencing coach. This video is so useful for me. I made video which shows those flick to Japanese fencer. (I link to your video and refer to you)Thank you.

  • @paradoxx5378
    @paradoxx5378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    just commenting so the TH-cam algorithm shows more of your awesome stuff

  • @Sabreyt-xm2gn
    @Sabreyt-xm2gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish you to continue doing these stuffs. Love you work!!

  • @ВалерийВалерьевич-в9в
    @ВалерийВалерьевич-в9в 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for your video. all time i was search fencing training video and now it begin!

  • @mediocreburger2893
    @mediocreburger2893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    So essentially for a flick I need to know
    *Inertia is a property of matter*

    • @sidthekid4394
      @sidthekid4394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BILL NYE THE SCIENCE GUY.........

    • @TheDeadline747
      @TheDeadline747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sidthekid4394 BILL! BILL! BILL! BILL!

    • @sidthekid4394
      @sidthekid4394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDeadline747 lol.... science rules

  • @mrhandsome1992
    @mrhandsome1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are extremely good coach. Thank you for video

  • @Lecotatuta
    @Lecotatuta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here before this brows up

  • @SH-bb9bm
    @SH-bb9bm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video,thanks for sharing

  • @coreyzhao61
    @coreyzhao61 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you make a video about primes? I couldn’t find anything about primes

  • @vikzxfficial6306
    @vikzxfficial6306 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ty for ur all videos

  • @netherportal6969
    @netherportal6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am an epee fencer who fence for 4 years and I know how to flick,actually flick the sword is just very easy,if you are a fencer,you know how to stab a hand,if you want to stab the upper part of the hand,you need to let the plate of the sword higher than the sword and the stabbing angle will be like at 20 degree,but flicking is a thing that you put some finger powers and wrist powers on the tip of your sword,good thing of flick is people are harder parry your sword and the bad thing is your hand will be stabbed easier because u will waste a little more time for having the momentum of the flick,so when you flick don’t make a motion like a bow,keep the momentum forward

  • @eoagr1780
    @eoagr1780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I say Whip it.....whip it good!..

  • @mikemorgan1332
    @mikemorgan1332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Please stress practice before actually attempting the flick in a bout, I had one of the small bones broken in my wrist by someone that was not quite proficient with it, and yes I had an FIE rated glove on.

    • @yeetus_queenus643
      @yeetus_queenus643 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      RandomThoughts ok wait you learned to flick only at your second year? Wow....

    • @def1ghi
      @def1ghi 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Amen. Our coach insists that we first work with her and then practice on willing opponents before we try in bouts.

  • @inscrutablemungus4143
    @inscrutablemungus4143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just to describe a different approach -- the technique in the video is not how I learned to flick. The way my coach usually teaches it, landing the flick is more about wrist angulation than about bending the blade so it lands. So, if you were trying to flick to the shoulder, you would move your wrist high and pull the point down on the shoulder with your finger (i.e move your wrist down a little bit, but the main downward motion is through your the grip moving in your hand if that makes sense). When you do it with speed, even if you overshoot the shoulder a little bit, the flex in the blade will generally land on the back.

  • @triclusters5293
    @triclusters5293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More important then all of these is good distance and footwork

  • @andrewchung8166
    @andrewchung8166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Flicking riposte is the best move i have

    • @UniversalDirp
      @UniversalDirp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew Chung opposition 6? Or 8?

    • @andrewchung8166
      @andrewchung8166 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Universal Dirp parry 6 flick to shoulder

    • @UniversalDirp
      @UniversalDirp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewchung8166 wait, do you do epee or foil

    • @karthikeyankr6458
      @karthikeyankr6458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very nice work coach.

  • @flch95
    @flch95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video

  • @davidlimtien8900
    @davidlimtien8900 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi @fencersedge Coach Tyler, as your épée is very flexible, would you be able to share the Épée brand and blade type?
    Please advise.
    Thanks!
    David

  • @krunalsheware3097
    @krunalsheware3097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes it is very helpful thanks for the tips 😊😊😊

  • @bubbahottep8644
    @bubbahottep8644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a hard time believing that the fencer in the video who had his foil blade actually pointing back behind him had "his point threatening valid target." I get it if his is the only light, but if the end result (the flick landing, in this case) is the determining factor of what is "threatening valid target," then any movement that lands can be defined as a threat. This makes right of way concepts virtually subjective.

  • @gokulmalik6496
    @gokulmalik6496 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best foil blade in flick

  • @Fencer._.1109
    @Fencer._.1109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any tip for how to prevent blade from rusting

    • @calebtheshamen7033
      @calebtheshamen7033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't soak in water 🌊

    • @Chilam.
      @Chilam. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Vinegar helps great to un rust, I'm guessing your not a sabre fencer because our blades usually don't live long enough to rust 😅

    • @nomyum7042
      @nomyum7042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coat it with a layer of zinc, painting it also helps but idk if thats allowed.

  • @markfox1608
    @markfox1608 ปีที่แล้ว

    What blade flexibility do you recommend?

  • @김재덕-s1t
    @김재덕-s1t 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think that marche always have to be short? I think that When i am trying to close the distance, long marche can be more better than the short.

  • @Wicked-0815
    @Wicked-0815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey, nice video. Thumb up. By the way, can you show us some useful epee lessons, we can do with a partner?

  • @UncleWally3
    @UncleWally3 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it fair (useful) to say “timing” is manufactured by distance?

  • @a-z2928
    @a-z2928 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir or anyone else who's reading,
    Do I have to choose 'Medium' blade to flick? Is it impossible to flick with 'Dure' blades?

  • @snuffman5497
    @snuffman5497 ปีที่แล้ว

    why do they do this instead of a regular thrust for a touch

  • @wilsonchung3872
    @wilsonchung3872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @falconmight339
    @falconmight339 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice, as usual, thanks. When i make flick i try do it with same biomechanic of saber hits. Work by wrist, not forearm, for not open it for counter. And cos it like hits, just maden by top of blade, i hit to the front of body or mask,from maximum distance . Way that you show appropriate for close fight, when opponent quickly short the distance, i think.

  • @weedywet
    @weedywet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What glove is that?

    • @damanegione
      @damanegione 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.allstar.de/en/de-luxe-glove.html

  • @mayurgurav8590
    @mayurgurav8590 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice 👍👍👌👌

  • @___wintermute
    @___wintermute ปีที่แล้ว

    Welp, I knew my MMA background might cary over a bit to fencing but I never thought my fly fishing background would.

  • @freddieleech5050
    @freddieleech5050 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know if my blade is flexible enough

  • @sairammurali1844
    @sairammurali1844 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sir how to flick back side
    Pls release a video about back flick

  • @VanessaDMusic
    @VanessaDMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk how you do it

  • @blocks4786
    @blocks4786 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The good thing about flick hitters, learn to do the double step prime hit in the groin.. flick hitters are trash..Beat and flick.. oh wait to flick won't work when you understand go forward not backward.. The first thing I learned, waving the blade behind your ear is not an attack.. Seeding parry they have zero replies, it's always about making the react.. Ps in epee go for the foot... Pointy bit first, they walk into it, but they need to extend that foot first.

  • @VanessaDMusic
    @VanessaDMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My foil isn’t that bendy

  • @PatriciaBaughman-k4n
    @PatriciaBaughman-k4n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @herozone2104
    @herozone2104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation as usual! Not a fan of the move though, as I've always considered it to be a cheat move, derived for the sport and not an actual martial attack. That's not to say it's not effective in the sport of fencing.

    • @gbennett58
      @gbennett58 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. It seems to me that fencing rules should reflect the original purpose of the art, which was dueling. In an actual duel, it is highly doubtful that this move would serve any purpose other than to cause the opponent to lose concentration, as he would temporarily be overcome with the giggles.

    • @suda2849
      @suda2849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      9D13 Ho Wang Clement KWOK your coach is wrong.

    • @weedywet
      @weedywet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      well this IS the sport of fencing, not martial arts.

    • @weedywet
      @weedywet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@suda2849 I know several Olympic medalists who think you're coach is ridiculously wrong.

    • @CptBerns
      @CptBerns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fencing is (or should be) a martial art. The art should be the ability to kill a person who's trying to kill you without getting killed. The art should NOT be to score a few points. Fencing is not (or should not be) a game that you can compare with tennis. It's this kind of moves, the silly rules and the weight and design of the weapons that turned fencing into tennis and caused the birth of HEMA. The FIE actually killed fencing.

  • @funnysecksnumber6998
    @funnysecksnumber6998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love olympic fencing, but this is where i draw the line. flicking to hit with the point instead of stabbing, with a flexible training analog, made to help you train fencing with a stiff, edgeless sword? if you really want to not stab every once in a while, youre welcome into sabre. or actually learn real fencing with historical fencing, if thats why you began fencing in the first place. a lot of people start sports fencing because they want to know how to use a sword and stuff, youre at the wrong place mate. HEMA is what youre looking for. if its just fun and skill based competition youre looking for, thats exactly what sports fencing is.

    • @miercolesmoder
      @miercolesmoder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      You're absolutely wrong because a flicking motion still works with stiffer blades, it just stings a bit more for your opponent if you fuck up the distance because you're basically smacking them with the flat of your blade.
      Flicking as a concept isn't exactly ahistorical, you're essentially thrusting with a rotating/cutting motion, instead of a purely linear motion which you seem to think thrusts always have to be. If you've fenced longsword at all, you should know there are techniques in KdF like zornhau and schielhau which are basically thrusts in opposition formed by cutting motions.

    • @mattmalco10
      @mattmalco10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shhhh let people enjoy things

    • @bubbybumble616
      @bubbybumble616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      mald, cry, shit your pants even

    • @jessinsurfgreen4964
      @jessinsurfgreen4964 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so you’re just against the progression of the sport? how fun