RetroN 5 System Review (Unboxing and Overview) - Gamester81

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  • @GoldGloves210
    @GoldGloves210 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review John, enjoyed how you tested out each of the game ports, the controller, the box and packaging, and your general thoughts! Looking forward to getting one of these eventually.

  • @TriforceRich
    @TriforceRich 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to your full review John.

  • @stephenbianchi7141
    @stephenbianchi7141 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew the minute I heard about the RetroN 5 that I could count on my man Retrogamer81 to review it in depth.
    Glad to know ahead of time that I shouldn't expect it to support a FDS, 32x, or Sega CD.

  • @gamerhood950
    @gamerhood950 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow, this is just awesome. Really thinking about getting this, to get back to the games I grew up on. Thanks for the review!

  • @vahn_legaia
    @vahn_legaia 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Small correction 11:53, the Super Game Boy only works with Game Boy games or Game Boy games with the extra color pallets, not the dedicated Game Boy Color games (with the bump).

  • @rawhide2803
    @rawhide2803 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice overview.
    It's looks like a fantastic piece of kit. I'll certainly be looking for one when they reach the UK.

  • @Wallcrawler
    @Wallcrawler 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes!!! A new review!!
    Good job John, can't wait for part 2. The Retron series of clones is very ambitious. Hopefully one day they will taler it to 32X and Sega CD games as well as PC Engine Duo. They seem to be learning adapt and compatibility with every new one that comes out.

  • @LeftoverCultureReview
    @LeftoverCultureReview 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn man, I gotta stop, I can't/won't watch part 2. This system looks so freaking sleek and awesome, I don't want to get emotionally invested, haha. You've certainly got an air of excitement in everything you check out on the show, and it feels infectious.

    • @Gamester81
      @Gamester81  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man I appreciate it. I enjoy your show too BTW.

    • @LeftoverCultureReview
      @LeftoverCultureReview 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John,honestly means a lot!

  • @spongebobfan190
    @spongebobfan190 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember seeing the Retron 3 at fye in a shopping mall about a year ago. In the same fye, they were also selling new unused N64 controllers.

  • @ItsjustAO
    @ItsjustAO 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just found out about this a few months ago. Thanks for reviewing this. Gonna buy this, it will look great in my game room, and at the same time spare me for alot of wires

  • @Larry
    @Larry 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So it has a Famicom port, but not a Master System one??? What the hell?
    I'm pretty sure the Master System sold more than the "Famicom" in the US.

    • @trailduster6bt
      @trailduster6bt 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It aparently will work w/ the power base converter in the genesis slot. So it can play master system games, sort-of.

    • @Motoskichimo1974
      @Motoskichimo1974 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can always buy the cheapo $30 one that looks like a game genie. It's still crap they didn't do anything for the master system.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tyler Beauregard
      Master System wasn't that popular here in North America. That is why it was not included.

    • @Larry
      @Larry 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      snake2006
      What I'm saying, they put a famicom port in there, a system that was never sold in the US, but not a console that was.
      They're also selling these in Europe, where the SMS obliterated sales of the NES.

    • @Larry
      @Larry 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *****
      Indeed!
      There is this notion from some Americans that if it didn't happen in the US, it's not relevant. Whereas the tiniest amount of research proves otherwise.
      It's bad enough they insist on calling it a "Genesis" on the unit.

  • @xINVISIGOTHx
    @xINVISIGOTHx 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    the only system-to-tv cable it has is HDMI?

  • @SeeJayAre
    @SeeJayAre 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I actually really like the controller, they're a huge upgrade from the Retron 3... I really like the clicky joystick, if you need something more precise for Mario or Mega Man you can use the original controller... Dear Retron, please send me a review system!

    • @CanadianRetro
      @CanadianRetro 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      And me too. Send me one PLZ.

  • @Skyk0rn
    @Skyk0rn 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    watched the second part of this review and i gotta admit they made a quality chunk of improvement in compare with retron 3. all those menus and filters and different options and features. clearly now the system is much more now than it ever was it's not longer just a few consoles on a chip. im not sure about buying it as for right now, but they sure got my attention and approval with this project.

  • @Zer0ducksgiven
    @Zer0ducksgiven 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really want one of these!

  • @scottrockers
    @scottrockers 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review.

  • @thedentist888
    @thedentist888 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to seeing what the video quality is like.

  • @GAMETIMEwithKyle
    @GAMETIMEwithKyle 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great overview as always Gamester!

  • @photoc
    @photoc 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    John, on your Testing and Review video on your site, at 19:16, the lettering on the screen says Sensative. Minor correction, it's Sensitive :) Great review by the way, this has helped me out a ton on whether to purchase this now or wait. Keep up the great work!

  • @rhodesy761uk
    @rhodesy761uk 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice looking system like the colour scheme

  • @G20GAN
    @G20GAN 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's the one I've been waiting for John :) looks sweet so far, I have seen some Facebook status' of yours regarding some problems but I wanted to see what you had to say about it first, on to part II :)

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched both parts of your review, and you did an excellent job! I'm not going to buy one right now; I own a Famicom AV console, and a reverse converter that let's me play American NES games. Hyperkin is making a DOS console, where you can put in the original disks-I've never owned or used a DOS PC, so I'm pretty excited about that!

  • @chrausis
    @chrausis 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if anyone has asked this but if you have a Mega Adaptor (Japanese equivalent to the Power Base Convertor) do you think the Retron would allow you to play SG-1000 and Mark III games?

  • @Jocaju3
    @Jocaju3 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    John, does the SD2SNES (or any other flash cart) works with Retron 5?

  • @ThePSXcollector
    @ThePSXcollector 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review, Ive really been thinking about getting into retro cart based gaming but knowing I would have to buy each individual system was a bit of a turn off. But not now :) I didnt even know this type of system existed :) great stuff!

  • @nicrrobinson
    @nicrrobinson 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you're wrong that you can't use snes controllers for genesis or vice versa. you can map any controller to play any system granted the controller has enough buttons, i've seen it done in a few other videos

  • @R3TR0R4V3
    @R3TR0R4V3 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I enjoyed it! At least I know what to expect when getting this down the road.. I say that because I own all of these original consoles and always prefer original hardware. However, an all-in-one solution is always a nice option to have available at your disposal, especially for someone who doesn't have the actual consoles and doesn't feel like tracking them down. Cheers-

  • @nowheremen22
    @nowheremen22 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realize that this kind of defeats the purpose of having the Famicom slot, but would it make it any easier on the Famicom carts if you used an adapter, like that found in early Gyromite carts?

  • @De5con
    @De5con 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its nice getting new consoles first.

  • @Lowmandavis
    @Lowmandavis 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    So is there not an adapter to adapt HDMI cables into composite video (the red , white, and yellow plugs) ?

  • @SMG4LIFE01
    @SMG4LIFE01 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the AC voltage on the adapter cause I want to buy this but not sure if it will work with a travel adapter in the UK

  • @Pmike404
    @Pmike404 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be cool if they made something like this that could support handheld games. A tiny micro console that could play all Game Boy, Game Gear, Wonderswan, and Neo Geo Pocket games and display them via HDMI would be really nice.

  • @meowskull
    @meowskull 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I might have to get this. I have all my retro consoles hooked up to a CRT in my retro game room so to have this in my modern gameroom hooked up to my 50 inch plasma would be awesome! I'm kinda iffy on that controller though.

  • @david4719
    @david4719 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know the there is enhanced audio, my question is, can you turn off the enhanced audio and listen to the way the games normally sound? I did read that you can use different controller for different systems. The is something in the menu I think u have to turn on. Can u confirm this? By the way there is a firm ware update already.

  • @TheSweatyYeti
    @TheSweatyYeti 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they had eject buttons for the cartridges. That would be nice.

  • @oddioblinker
    @oddioblinker 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to use the supplied Retron5 controller for GBA and Gameboy games?

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inserting/removing carts may be easier when using two hands.

  • @keithm3458
    @keithm3458 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    overall, would you recommend this or the super retro trio.

  • @dontackett
    @dontackett 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    what was the Contra game when trying out the grip ?

  • @Thunderwing88
    @Thunderwing88 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish there was one for pre NES systems so I could buy some old 2600 carts.

  • @R3SerialPro
    @R3SerialPro 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm, now all the Retron needs for the home menu is a means of connecting 2-4 players online. Kind of like how X-Band worked back in the day, before I was around, that is.

  • @UltraDTA
    @UltraDTA 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been waiting for this moment...for all my liiiiii-eeefff.....

  • @lactobacillusprime
    @lactobacillusprime 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice overview John. Don't particularly like the cartridge slot gripping the carts - pretty much death grip scenario. But I reckon those may loosen up over time.

  • @makedaevilmage
    @makedaevilmage 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol at the end of the vid i clicked in the top left, but there is no link to part 2 yet. Pretty nice review so far. When will there be a part 2? btw, i don't really like the look of the controller design, but i guess you can also use the original controllers :)

  • @solofalcon
    @solofalcon 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Real unboxing starts at 6:50

  • @adpainter77
    @adpainter77 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did I see a snes and nes controller port on the side? I am not sure if that is what it was and he never mentioned it. Maybe he forgot.

    • @shockwave16100
      @shockwave16100 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has two nes, two Snes, and two Genesis controller ports

  • @DerFlash001
    @DerFlash001 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done review :) keep it going man!! :)

  • @jameshetfieldserbia
    @jameshetfieldserbia 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like you,
    you are one of those people who has 'I am a really nice guy!' written all over your face!
    that is awesome :)

  • @the_original_Bilb_Ono
    @the_original_Bilb_Ono 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    does it play board games?

    • @Gamester81
      @Gamester81  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL, that's be great! :)

  • @jonathan2249
    @jonathan2249 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn did you preorder from amazon? I preordered from stone age gamer and I have to pay the 140 when it comes out, and hyperkin hasn't given stone age gamer preorders yet so we have to wait more.

  • @rafaleek100
    @rafaleek100 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like console which supports all cd and dvd based systems from the 6th gen and lower.

  • @eyescovered
    @eyescovered 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I preordered mine last year! Can't wait to get it and try it out for myself. Currently using a Retron 3.
    Hope the next version (years from now, I'm assuming) will have N64, Game Gear and TurboGrafx16. So that's the Retron 8, right? :)

  • @reesealien
    @reesealien 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was debuting about getting this system but now I'm not gonna get it because I just don't have 140+ to shell out for a retron 5 when I could just go get a gameboy or any other console listed their for much cheaper

  • @TheSuperRedCreeper
    @TheSuperRedCreeper 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know I am two years late but, I get lag on the Retron5 playing Super Mario World. Do you know how to fix that?

    • @ConnorsPiano
      @ConnorsPiano 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheSuperRedCreeper update the firmware or wipe the device

  • @bootista316
    @bootista316 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I use the ever drives or power pak in the retron5

  • @DetroitNerd
    @DetroitNerd 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never been a fan of these types of systems. I would much rather have 5 classic systems than one ugly new one. But that's just my 2 cents. Nice video!

  • @electricadventures
    @electricadventures 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will have to wait for part two, for how you went on playing titles on it, but at this stage it does not look too bad. The inconsistency with grip on the cartridges is a bit of a worry as it leads to possible build issues. If they are too tight it might damage the cartridges.
    Why they couldn't put a Master System slot in is beyond me. there really isn't a lot in the base converter.
    Not sure I like the look of the controller, but I suppose you can plug native ones in.

  • @IceKoldKilla
    @IceKoldKilla 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you guys read about the guy with the biggest video game collection in the world? He's selling it ALL! This morning the bid was over 5K but I imagine once the end gets near we'll see over 50K easily. Maybe 100K. I just hope someone rich pays him good. It's 35 years of hard work I think he said. It's officially the biggest video game collection according to The Guinness Book of World Records. In 2012 Guinness counted over 10K I believe and he claims it's now over 11K.

  • @tikifire
    @tikifire 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks cool!

  • @davidgregory4602
    @davidgregory4602 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure about this. It doesn't look to hold the carts very well. Like you said it held the famicom tight but it didn't even look like the snes was in correctly and the mega drive cart looked like you almost destroyed it.

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should have added an Atari slot on this..that would have given it at least another 3 systems on the RetroN meter.

  • @Pholiage
    @Pholiage 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a "emulator"? Like the Neogeo Gold X?

  • @shockwave16100
    @shockwave16100 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm probably gettin this which color?

  • @Brainfunkshun
    @Brainfunkshun 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, you can save a snes cartridge onto the console? If so, that's genius. I'm very ocd about the fact the battery dies in some of the older games.

  • @bongwithaname
    @bongwithaname 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing stopping me from a purchuse is the fact it usses emulation. I understand you have to go that way if you want to use hdmi but still.

  • @paulmitchell9795
    @paulmitchell9795 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does stoneagegamer.com send consoles internationally. I want a retron 5

  • @sarowie
    @sarowie 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    the super game boy does not play game boy color games. There games (-> black cartridge) which work on a game boy/super game boy and show color on the game boy color, but the clear cartridges only run on gameboy color or gameboy advanced.

  • @captainburble86
    @captainburble86 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Theres no analog connection.So what could I do

  • @jimbie5781
    @jimbie5781 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you play gba games using a snes controller?

  • @123ericn
    @123ericn 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you do when a games battery dies

  • @TVsMrNeil
    @TVsMrNeil 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gamester, I'd like to see you test Gameboy Donkey Kong in the system. The reason being that it has some Super Gameboy enhancements, and I'm curious to see if Hyperkin thought of that.

  • @mistermystery1999
    @mistermystery1999 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I buy this???

  • @IbukiBaby
    @IbukiBaby 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to record gameplay off of this?

  • @SageOwl
    @SageOwl 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everdrive or EZ Flash IV compatible?
    I am assuming not. Custom firmware in the future I can see though. If anyone actually cares enough to do it.

  • @RetroGameCrusader
    @RetroGameCrusader 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    =D looks sweet and i have been waiting for like ever for it but al still just wait till Christmas

  • @ZeroTradeinValueProductions
    @ZeroTradeinValueProductions 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on Review I washoping it was gonna be awesome when It came out, but it looks like it has some small issues with it. I'll hold off on getting it for now.

  • @shaniquabonitta565
    @shaniquabonitta565 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    wheres the other part?

  • @BlockABoots
    @BlockABoots 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, why you never look at the camera when talking?

    • @henrikmonkee
      @henrikmonkee 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he feels more comfortable looking at other way :)

  • @IceKoldKilla
    @IceKoldKilla 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you guys read about the guy with the biggest video game collection selling it all? Over 11,000 games and sooooo many system including stuff I've never heard of. Bidding is on some website I never heard of. Not eBay. Probably because eBay would take 20% from it I think. All I know it's a big % but I forget how much. Anyway, type it on Google. Guinness has officially titled him the person with the biggest collection.

  • @KSpade89
    @KSpade89 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    part 2?

  • @SockyNoob
    @SockyNoob 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They forgot one thing. A USB Port.

    • @0menchild
      @0menchild 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn your right! That's a huge mistake...

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wired controllers, a hard drive, ect, ect. Just about every modern console has a USB port. It's a must.

    • @ChiefDaFlippa
      @ChiefDaFlippa 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      SonicBoone56 This isn't a console for modern games so it's not a must, it comes with it's own controller which you can use wired if you want and also uses the original controllers which are wired and USB for a hard drive WHY? this isn't a pc for using mame which i think your're looking for.

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still it wouldn't hurt to have one. Wouldn't you like to charge your controller?

  • @AnalogX64
    @AnalogX64 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    all the original systems it emulates were using D-Pad right? it doesn't make sense why use an analogue stick unless its due to some sort of manufacturing issues.
    I would buy one if there was flashcart support.

  • @andrewhargreavrs3635
    @andrewhargreavrs3635 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    does it work with the 32x?

  • @Beliskner999psn
    @Beliskner999psn 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Their next system should definitely play all kinds of Atari games as well from 2600 to Jaguar :D

  • @Mchenrygames
    @Mchenrygames 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great review.
    The Retron 5 is just a glorified emulator with cartridge ports.

  • @SirAzur3
    @SirAzur3 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    it works just like a wii controller you should try a wii controller with it

  • @IAmNotAFunguy
    @IAmNotAFunguy 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would that thing work with the Gameboy Camera?

  • @Metal-Possum
    @Metal-Possum 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better yet, low power, low cost computers such as the Raspberry Pi can be configured to emulate most of these old consoles. Imagine having your game library in one central virtual location, and not having to get up to change game? Mind blowing huh?

  • @limbbizkit1
    @limbbizkit1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Retron 5s Now supports Sega Master System :-)

  • @solunasunrise
    @solunasunrise 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    price `?

  • @PolaireOfAstora
    @PolaireOfAstora 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh nice.

  • @liquidt3ch
    @liquidt3ch 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    so basically its like owning a modded original xbox loaded with emulators. except without all the fuss. this would make a great gift for my sis. personally im happy using my old xbox

  • @worldgate989
    @worldgate989 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Not paying 140 bucks for a chopped down android device with cartridge slots. Just not worth it. Rather just have the actual systems instead.

    • @wilsvgaddiction4456
      @wilsvgaddiction4456 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you! I have no idea who this is marketed for. As a collector, it seems pointless. Anyone who buys cartridges instead of downloading ROMs probably has the original console anyway. Convenience, maybe but I'd rather mess with a jumble of wires and TV switcher boxes than have a cheap piece of crap like that in my game room.

    • @Ninkyo893
      @Ninkyo893 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wil's VG Addiction I think it's good as a collector's piece. Something obscure. I think it will also benefit people who do game reviews or 'Let's Play' videos on TH-cam, as the HD resolution really makes the old games look fantastic. Also, if you're someone who has limited space, and doesn't want to have ten consoles plugged into their TV, this can be nice.

    • @worldgate989
      @worldgate989 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ninkyo893 But its an emulator, so people buy this thinking they are getting something good and end up getting an emulator instead. Plus, snes games and similar suffer from extreme pixilation when you blow them up to such a size. Realistically you can buy a wii, and do the same thing.

    • @zborgerd
      @zborgerd 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. I'm no fan of these "hardware" emulators. I've yet to see one that does the job with any degree of accuracy, especially when it comes to audio.
      If Hyperkin wants to get serious about this market, they'll stop making these silly multi-slot machines and create real modern versions of consoles that utilize proper hardware or FPGA instead of software emulation. No way you can have a proper console on some emulator that runs on some rinky-dink ARM chip.

    • @brpadington
      @brpadington 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a modded Xbox that did the same thing with better results. On top of that the Xbox wasn't known to damage real cartridges the way this thing does.

  • @toshineon
    @toshineon 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking at the controller for this, anyone else think it looks kinda... Wii-ish?

  • @dcareagamer
    @dcareagamer 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the SD slot can you play roms?

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. It is just for system updates and loading cheat codes.

    • @dcareagamer
      @dcareagamer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sucks. Maybe they or somebody will release a jailbreak!

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      DC Area Gamer
      More than likely since it is android based

    • @Gamester81
      @Gamester81  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I tried, doesn't play ROMs.

    • @dcareagamer
      @dcareagamer 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like that would have been a nice touch that would have made me want to run out and buy this system. Well I will now hope somebody jailbreaks it or they update it to support roms. Great review John!

  • @clintonwhite9816
    @clintonwhite9816 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVED IT

  • @trailduster6bt
    @trailduster6bt 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am still waiting for a genesis clone that also plays 32x games. It is just to much work to set up my 32x to play my beloved knuckles chaotix.

  • @maxwillson
    @maxwillson 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dam! Making me want to sell my original systems to buy this one! Too bad it doesn't play 64 games.

  • @chrisnightingale8383
    @chrisnightingale8383 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    i hope they will sell them here in australia.
    i like the fact it has hdmi output. i hate how my nes, snes and megadrive only have av output, this would greatly improve picture quality.
    it says it plays gameboy advance, i have a supercard that takes sd cards to put on roms of gba games and gameboy games, be cool if it worked.

  • @jamesarmstrong2137
    @jamesarmstrong2137 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been on the fence with these kind of consoles(?) for sometime now. I feel like once it gets to this stage you'd be better off just emulating the games on your PC and using a 360 pad... I Get that it's convenient, a system for all and what not but I still think I'd prefer the genuine article.