First you can alwas try to power up the control board just using 39 (GND) and 59 (+24VDC) pins on ocnnector. In most cases - just like on this one in video with damaged power board - it will power up the board to make us able download parameters
Nice explanation with the demonstration. I usually just plug the control card in the other Power Module and Turn the Drive with 24VDC only to get the parameters. Also in case if I don't have one, then again just power up the control card from the front connectors instead of 50Pin complex powering up method.
Thank you so much for the video. I made a 50-pin connector and soldered a DC-DC converter from 24VDC to 5VDC. I placed the entire structure in a box and brought out 2 power wires. I have it approached EVS9326-ES. What other inverter models does it fit?
Peepaw, thank you for your videos. I have the same inverter which randomly produces LU message. Do you know which pin of X50 connector is used for DC bus voltage reading?
You can connect only the 24V (pins 9,10 and 11,12) as you described in the video. The 5V will be supplied by the secondary power supply on this control board. Unless the power supply on this board is not functional.
I doing well. I hope you and yours are having a good day. I like working on the Lenze Servo Drives too. I had one though that had a shorted IGBT. Two of the Gate Firing Channels was destroyed when the short circuit energy shot back through the Gates. I changed all the shorted smd diodes, zener diodes. transistors. And burnt open resistors. And installed a new IGBT power module.
Then I powered up the drive, and ran the servo motor good. After an hours run time, the IGBT power module exploded again. With the same two Gate Firing Channels blown apart. So I must have missed something in the repaired Gate Firing Channels. Took me two weeks to get over that one failed repair. HaHa. It's like having one die on the operating table. Takes awhile to feel good again.
@@PeepawMcDonald 9327 and above gate's circuitry have that tricky topology instead of simple gate drivers, where they fire just a pulse triggered by the 0611's edge instead of being turned on/off indefinitely until you keep the input on/off. I got an case some time ago where the 9328 got an gate's circuit blown, I changed everything, from 0611 to IGBT module on that gate, just to be sure nothing was going to fail later. But, as one said, life isn't easy haha... That drive went to the machine, after a couple of days it was vibrating the motor a lot. I got it back to my bench and discovered that it wasn't driving half cycle to one of the phases of the motor. It turned out to be an 8V1 zener a little off the value, I changed it and the drive worked like a charm. Back to machine again, it worked a couple of months, until one day it started vibrating again. Back to bench, I couldn't make it fail like in the machine. I put it on test so, and kept it running all the morning until it failed. After all it was one of that SMD capacitors that you can't know the value, it was going shorted when heated. I soldered it out and got another one from the gate next to it, measured the value and soldered two new capacitors to both of them. This drive is now 5 months running on the machine without even an stop to get cool.
Now I'm with the first 9330 I ever see, here in my bench. This one is driving me nuts haha... This drive exploded for an gate failure, but due to the high current capacity, the explosion got spread. On the power board it have 3 power supplies, one to drive the electronics, one to the gates and one to drive the giant pre-charge relays. All this power supplies got shorted, I'm working right now on the electronics power supply, that from dead is now going all the way up to scary 54V (I'm very happy that I did tested it with my power resistor instead of the controller board haha). I wish I could share some photos of it with you, it's really amazing. Three 3844 power supplies just for the power board, and the usual one on the controller board.
Hi PeePaw, Thanks for the video. Just a quick question. In your video, the parameters are stored on the GDC program. Please, how can the stored parameters on the GDC program be transferred to an external USB flash drive or stored on the computer?
Hi Peepaw, Thanks for the video. Really enjoyed and also learnt much. However , would you be able to sketch out the drawing for Lenze Servo Drive Type E82EV402_4C, printed board to identify the similar pins of the EVS9322 to do the same on E282EV402_4C? , not sure either which pins should i supply necessary 24vdc with respective ground and as well as 5vdc either on the X11 or X15 terminal of the board. Please do comment if you're able to assist.
Hey, Peepaw! I appreciate the time you take to make and post these videos. You've taught me a few things about working with servo drives. Since I'm an independent tech, I get a lot of my continuing education on TH-cam, and by doing labs in my shop with used equipment. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a question about an issue a customer of mine reported to me. He said that when they shut down the plant over the weekend, the Lenze drive no longer retains it's position, like it used to. My first thought is that there must be volatile memory, like a PLC, and there is possibly a capacitor that is failing. It's a 9300 series drive, like the one in your video. If that's the case, I'm thinking they should find a replacement that I can swap out, and then replace all of the electrolytic capacitors on control board of the old drive. What are your thoughts?
Hello Mr Hooey, I hope that you are having a great day. The absolute position of the servo system is backed up by a battery that is in the servo motor. If you remove the rear cover of the Lenze servo motor. You will see the backup battery. The backup battery inside the motor has probably died. I hope that I have given you the correct answer for you malfunction. As we all know things are different from one thing to another. Please enjoy the time with your family. And thank you very much for stopping by:)
Hello Mr Hooey, I am so sorry. I confused my self between Lenze and Indramat. It is the Indramat servo motor that has the backup battery in the motor. My son died recently. And my mind is a bit muddled. Again I am sorry to err with the answer.
Hello SR.Peepaw, this would be useful to collect the parameters of a ksd1-16 servo, the communication card is an E93DA000-0B531MP, many times i have power outages, the chips lose information and I think it would be a good way to solve it. Thank you for your content, Regards.
sir i have on question my lenze drive 9383 control card damaged i purchase new from China now when i transfer the parameter it not accepting parameter all due to in code list parameter no 93 that shows drive identity, my drive is 5ookw and its sets on 9331, my question is how to change the drive identity to save the all parameter??? do you have any solution for this please guide me.
Hi PeePaw. I'm a tech that's worked on hundreds of these things. Have you ever figured out the secret of the control board that has no communication with GDC (not counting the obvious defective capacitors that are always found)? Once or twice, out of probably 50, I got lucky replacing the two tiny SMD optocouplers that are right next to the Lecom connector, but I have a pile of dead control boards and thought I'd ask if you know something I don't. Good video!
I would like to inform you that we have been suffering from the problem of 88888 alarm Displayed and keypad not work for a long time. We have almost all the KEB F5 inverter. What can we do to solve this problem? Please help
Hi, peepaw! Good day sir, I'm also working on the servo drive. I just want to know sir if you can send the link for the global drive easy lenze for the software download.
hi I have 9324mp card and i connect 24volt to the same pin as show but the green led and red are on and card not work you have solution for me and thank you
Hello Peepaw. I have a problem with my inverter 9300 EV. Inverter Faulty: "LU mesage ". Undervoltage in the DC bus. I check mains voltage supply cable ok. I open main control 9324MP. i think main control error. Can you help me find the root cause Peepaw ?( DC power relay is not close or low capacitance capacitor. Can you make a video on how to fix it?. Thankyou!
Helle PeePaw. Thank You for the videos. I have subscribed to Your channel. I am from Wisconsin. I have many of these drives and other similar models with matching motors removed from Kuka robots. Like you I enjoy tinkering and building machines. I have a variable speed application that I would like to put these to use in. I have downloaded the Lenze pdf manual and was overwhelmed with the mass of information. Could You help me setup a simple system for these drives and motors with nothing more than the motor, drive, and a variable speed dial to make it work for approx 0-2000 rpm without a complex PLC system ? I would be will to contact and communicate in what ever mean suits You best. Thanks!
Hello Sir, I am not sure how old this servo drive is. I saw a 1993 date code on one of the surface mount IC's. But from how good the servo drive looks, I don't think that is the true age. The PDF Manuals for this servo drive have a published date of 2002. That sounds more truer than 1993. If I can pin the age of the servo drive down to a closer year, I will let you know. Thank you very much for stopping by. I hope that you and your family are having a good day.
You just simply power on control board to gnd connect 39 connector and 59 +24 volt connect your control board is on.. Let's download and upload parameters without any risk and damage scene.. it's not a easy method
Peepaw, you're doing great work, man. Thank you for your detailed explanation. I enjoy watching you.
First you can alwas try to power up the control board just using 39 (GND) and 59 (+24VDC) pins on ocnnector. In most cases - just like on this one in video with damaged power board - it will power up the board to make us able download parameters
FALLA PL SE PUEDE RESETEAR?
@@miguelangelbosnjak4128 It's just to have the possibility to upload parameters.
Thank you so much for the video, its a big help for us.
God Bless and Keep Safe always Sir Peepaw.
Nice explanation with the demonstration. I usually just plug the control card in the other Power Module and Turn the Drive with 24VDC only to get the parameters. Also in case if I don't have one, then again just power up the control card from the front connectors instead of 50Pin complex powering up method.
yes, Connect power 24VDC (+) to 59, (-) to 39 at X5 slot
Thank you so much for the video. I made a 50-pin connector and soldered a DC-DC converter from 24VDC to 5VDC. I placed the entire structure in a box and brought out 2 power wires. I have it approached EVS9326-ES. What other inverter models does it fit?
Peepaw, thank you for your videos. I have the same inverter which randomly produces LU message. Do you know which pin of X50 connector is used for DC bus voltage reading?
You can connect only the 24V (pins 9,10 and 11,12) as you described in the video.
The 5V will be supplied by the secondary power supply on this control board. Unless the power supply on this board is not functional.
Hi PeePaw, how are you doing?
Nice to see you working on this drive, I repair many of these around here, very good equipment.
I doing well. I hope you and yours are having a good day. I like working on the Lenze Servo Drives too. I had one though that had a shorted IGBT. Two of the Gate Firing Channels was destroyed when the short circuit energy shot back through the Gates. I changed all the shorted smd diodes, zener diodes. transistors. And burnt open resistors. And installed a new IGBT power module.
Then I powered up the drive, and ran the servo motor good. After an hours run time, the IGBT power module exploded again. With the same two Gate Firing Channels blown apart. So I must have missed something in the repaired Gate Firing Channels. Took me two weeks to get over that one failed repair. HaHa. It's like having one die on the operating table. Takes awhile to feel good again.
Thanks for stopping by. Always good to hear from another technician that enjoys component repair.
@@PeepawMcDonald 9327 and above gate's circuitry have that tricky topology instead of simple gate drivers, where they fire just a pulse triggered by the 0611's edge instead of being turned on/off indefinitely until you keep the input on/off.
I got an case some time ago where the 9328 got an gate's circuit blown, I changed everything, from 0611 to IGBT module on that gate, just to be sure nothing was going to fail later.
But, as one said, life isn't easy haha...
That drive went to the machine, after a couple of days it was vibrating the motor a lot.
I got it back to my bench and discovered that it wasn't driving half cycle to one of the phases of the motor.
It turned out to be an 8V1 zener a little off the value, I changed it and the drive worked like a charm.
Back to machine again, it worked a couple of months, until one day it started vibrating again.
Back to bench, I couldn't make it fail like in the machine.
I put it on test so, and kept it running all the morning until it failed.
After all it was one of that SMD capacitors that you can't know the value, it was going shorted when heated.
I soldered it out and got another one from the gate next to it, measured the value and soldered two new capacitors to both of them.
This drive is now 5 months running on the machine without even an stop to get cool.
Now I'm with the first 9330 I ever see, here in my bench.
This one is driving me nuts haha...
This drive exploded for an gate failure, but due to the high current capacity, the explosion got spread.
On the power board it have 3 power supplies, one to drive the electronics, one to the gates and one to drive the giant pre-charge relays.
All this power supplies got shorted, I'm working right now on the electronics power supply, that from dead is now going all the way up to scary 54V (I'm very happy that I did tested it with my power resistor instead of the controller board haha).
I wish I could share some photos of it with you, it's really amazing.
Three 3844 power supplies just for the power board, and the usual one on the controller board.
Hello.! Thanks for your video, it's so helpful, do you have any idea why the resistance lenze broken in the Lenze 8200 vector drive?
Hi PeePaw,
Thanks for the video. Just a quick question. In your video, the parameters are stored on the GDC program. Please, how can the stored parameters on the GDC program be transferred to an external USB flash drive or stored on the computer?
In GDC - menu Drive -> save to file and then at new drive read from file -> send to drive ->store via C003=1
Thank you. Your video help tremendously today!!
Hi Peepaw, Thanks for the video. Really enjoyed and also learnt much. However , would you be able to sketch out the drawing for Lenze Servo Drive Type E82EV402_4C, printed board to identify the similar pins of the EVS9322 to do the same on E282EV402_4C? , not sure either which pins should i supply necessary 24vdc with respective ground and as well as 5vdc either on the X11 or X15 terminal of the board. Please do comment if you're able to assist.
Hey, Peepaw! I appreciate the time you take to make and post these videos. You've taught me a few things about working with servo drives. Since I'm an independent tech, I get a lot of my continuing education on TH-cam, and by doing labs in my shop with used equipment. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a question about an issue a customer of mine reported to me. He said that when they shut down the plant over the weekend, the Lenze drive no longer retains it's position, like it used to. My first thought is that there must be volatile memory, like a PLC, and there is possibly a capacitor that is failing. It's a 9300 series drive, like the one in your video. If that's the case, I'm thinking they should find a replacement that I can swap out, and then replace all of the electrolytic capacitors on control board of the old drive. What are your thoughts?
Hello Mr Hooey, I hope that you are having a great day. The absolute position of the servo system is backed up by a battery that is in the servo motor. If you remove the rear cover of the Lenze servo motor. You will see the backup battery. The backup battery inside the motor has probably died. I hope that I have given you the correct answer for you malfunction. As we all know things are different from one thing to another. Please enjoy the time with your family. And thank you very much for stopping by:)
Hello Mr Hooey, I am so sorry. I confused my self between Lenze and Indramat. It is the Indramat servo motor that has the backup battery in the motor. My son died recently. And my mind is a bit muddled. Again I am sorry to err with the answer.
@@PeepawMcDonald i am sorry for your son, my condolences😥
Hello SR.Peepaw,
this would be useful to collect the parameters of a ksd1-16 servo, the communication card is an E93DA000-0B531MP, many times i have power outages, the chips lose information and I think it would be a good way to solve it.
Thank you for your content, Regards.
Do you know which parts will be parameters on the lenze 9324mp board?
Why you d'not use pin 39 +24v and 59 gnd external suply
power 24v? Like in manual?
sir i have on question my lenze drive 9383 control card damaged i purchase new from China now when i transfer the parameter it not accepting parameter all due to in code list parameter no 93 that shows drive identity, my drive is 5ookw and its sets on 9331, my question is how to change the drive identity to save the all parameter??? do you have any solution for this please guide me.
Hi PeePaw. I'm a tech that's worked on hundreds of these things. Have you ever figured out the secret of the control board that has no communication with GDC (not counting the obvious defective capacitors that are always found)? Once or twice, out of probably 50, I got lucky replacing the two tiny SMD optocouplers that are right next to the Lecom connector, but I have a pile of dead control boards and thought I'd ask if you know something I don't. Good video!
Oh crap. This might be what im currently looking on my 8200 vector. Good info to think about ✌️👌
I would like to inform you that we have been suffering from the problem of 88888 alarm Displayed and keypad not work for a long time. We have almost all the KEB F5 inverter. What can we do to solve this problem? Please help
how to change in the code list parameter no 93 drive identity?
Hi, peepaw! Good day sir, I'm also working on the servo drive. I just
want to know sir if you can send the link for the global drive easy lenze for the software download.
Hey peepaw can u do lesson on Mentor. Or Parker Drives? How to connect and extract/manipulate data?
Because if you can't follow the instructions, you have to replace the IC with a normal board and download it.
Excellent, good video. thanks
hi I have 9324mp card and i connect 24volt to the same pin as show but the green led and red are on and card not work you have solution for me and thank you
Kindly send video 8400 lenze .how connect with PC and upload/download program
Hello Peepaw. I have a problem with my inverter 9300 EV. Inverter Faulty: "LU mesage ". Undervoltage in the DC bus. I check mains voltage supply cable ok. I open main control 9324MP. i think main control error. Can you help me find the root cause Peepaw ?( DC power relay is not close or low capacitance capacitor. Can you make a video on how to fix it?. Thankyou!
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Hey Peepaw! Its very nice video. Thanks for sharing it. I don't have the interface box. I am trying via port X4. No sucess yet......
Dear sir
Please help me
How to install a new Encoder to lenze drive?
Dear sir,please give me diagram keypad run mood without resolver & encoder for lenze 93 ** series servo drive.
thank you very much
Thanks sir ....Superb video
Thank you good teacher
Hello all! I from in Viet Nam. Can you help me! When I upload program " Globle drive control" software. Software display " Drive could not be found"?
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Helle PeePaw. Thank You for the videos. I have subscribed to Your channel. I am from Wisconsin. I have many of these drives and other similar models with matching motors removed from Kuka robots. Like you I enjoy tinkering and building machines. I have a variable speed application that I would like to put these to use in. I have downloaded the Lenze pdf manual and was overwhelmed with the mass of information. Could You help me setup a simple system for these drives and motors with nothing more than the motor, drive, and a variable speed dial to make it work for approx 0-2000 rpm without a complex PLC system ? I would be will to contact and communicate in what ever mean suits You best. Thanks!
Do you know how old the failed drive was Peepaw??
Hello Sir, I am not sure how old this servo drive is. I saw a 1993 date code on one of the surface mount IC's. But from how good the servo drive looks, I don't think that is the true age. The PDF Manuals for this servo drive have a published date of 2002. That sounds more truer than 1993. If I can pin the age of the servo drive down to a closer year, I will let you know. Thank you very much for stopping by. I hope that you and your family are having a good day.
Great info. Thank you. Dont work to hard.... Best wishes, hope this week is a good one.
You just simply power on control board to gnd connect 39 connector and 59 +24 volt connect your control board is on..
Let's download and upload parameters without any risk and damage scene..
it's not a easy method
Thank you sir
Thanks
Schema for servo drive
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Must have down voted my good looks... HaHa...
Thank you sir