Honda Pilot (2005) - Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF) and Filter Change
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- In this video I cover the process to change the ATF filter as well as the ATF itself on a 2005 Honda Pilot. Read full description for parts and details.
The process is similar but the filter is different (in the same location, but in a different housing) for 2003 and 2004 Honda Pilots. 2006 to 2008 Pilots use a different ATF filter (it looks like the part is 25450-P4V-013 but verify that from your VIN) setup all together.
Notes from the service manual about the procedure:
-Check the fluid level 60-90 seconds after shutting the vehicle down after reaching operating temperature.
-Fluid drained at a level drain and fill should be right around 3.2 US qts.
Here are the parts used listed by item:
ATF - Honda OEM ATF DW-1 quart bottles (x4 (x10 for 3x flush (not filmed))
ATF Filter - 25450-RAY-003
ATF Filter Housing Banjo Bolt Crush Washers (12mm) (x2)- 94109-12000
ATF Filter Housing Cap O-Ring - 91301-RAY-004
ATF Filter Gasket - 91302-RAY-003
Spring for ATF Passage - 25803-RAY-000 (optional (I just got a fresh one to be sure))
ATF Drain Plug Crush Washer - 90471-PX4-000
As for where to get those parts. I bought all the hardware from www.hondapartsnow.com and then got the DW-1 ATF locally from my Honda dealer parts department. - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
By far the best how-to video on servicing the older Honda Pilot transmissions.
Your video is the only one that shows how to change the transmission filter too, not just the drain and fill like other TH-cam videos do.
I also like how you clearly explain and show how to remove the old filter and install the new one including the torque settings for the bolts.
Fantastic job! 👍👍
Thanks! Glad it helped!
I am a Mechanic for over 35 yrs. just watched your video very well done. Great job
Thank you!
I’m a Honda and Acura master technician good job man 👌👍
Great video man, you're the only guy so far to show the changing of the filter, thanks!
Thanks!
Why fucking with the filter?
@@Grenplen Filters don't last forever on anything.
thanks for your in depth info. i can tell you are a true technician. keep up the good work!
I appreciate that!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the video. I refilled using the dipstick hole with a tubing and a funnel. A slim long funnel is $1 from a big box store. The refilling part was the easiest. I had a tough time removing the drain bolt (2007 Saturn Vue V6 with Honda engine). One 3/8" extension's square tip snapped off. Broken. Luckily, a strong rare earth magnet sucked out the tip.
Nice! Glad it work for you!
This has to be one of the best diy videos ever! Perfect explanation . Excellent, and I am sure difficult to get, camera angles. Nice voice. Thank you, sir!!!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful to you!!
Great video. Detailed n careful and very informative. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
thank you very precise and detailed information.. cant wait to do mine.. Thank you once again for taking the time to show ppl..
Glad it was helpful!
I bought my 2005 Honda 1.5yrs ago, no issues with the trans until I added fluid recently. I'm told to drain it before thinking to invest in a new trans, because that might be all it needs. If it's not the issue, then I'll be looking for another vehicle. This video showed there's more to it than I thought. You were very thorough showing everything. I appreciate your work, thank you.
Your welcome! Best of luck!
@@brycecarlson I have a question. I have a 2011 honda pilot LX 4WD. Where is the transmission filter? I can't finding thank you
@@victorgalarza9296 so as you might see in a few other comments here after the 2006 face lift the transmission changes design and the filter is part of the transmission housing itself. So it is not iser serviceable really as I think the process requires you to open the housing (and that can not be done with it in the vehicle).
@@victorgalarza9296 here is a link to the part for a 2011 4WD model (not sure if you have 2WD) the page includes a diagram of where the part goes. It seems that in the refresh the filter moved to the other side facing the engine so again I doubt you could get it out with the transmission installed in the vehicle.
www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~filter~25450-p4v-013.html
@@brycecarlson thank you. I really appreciate it
Outstanding Video! Thanks for doing this video! Very Professional
Thank you!
Very well done sir! Thanks for the video.
Glad it helped
Thank you for the video, it was a god send.
For anyone looking to change the filter, set aside a whole day if you're inexperienced like me...
Here are some of my experiences having done it for the first time:
Try to do it without jacking up the car. I used ramps on the front and a jack for the rear to level it, and I am sore from stretching over the step ladder.
A forum said they didn't have to move the air duct thing but I think following the video and removing the battery is necessary. I was a bit afraid of breaking the plastic, but you have no clearance and no line of sight.
Have a variety of sizes for your ratchets. You may have to use spanners, but I had a terrible 3 hours removing and reinstalling the 10mm bolts, trying all kinds of things. I just am not experienced enough to get to those bolts. Ratcheting spanners worked for removing, but I had to scour for a small socket wrench to screw them back in after trying for hours to use spanners. You have no space or vision to properly seat the tool on the spanners, especially the one behind the trans where there is a lip on the bracket. I finally found the socket, extension, and swiveling wrench combo that worked.
The god damn electrical connector on the ABS modulator took me an hour... For those who don't know (like me), you press in on the connector where the red retainer is held in (shown in the video). Then you pull the clip upwards, and it pulls the connector away as the retainer is pulled up. Except it was seized on mine. It wouldn't budge. I had to call the dealer to see if I was doing it wrong. After an hour of firmly pulling over and over, it eventually loosened and crunched loose. The red retainer was bending a bit, so I was careful and desperately hoping I was making progress. I was afraid of damaging plastic so I didn't use solvents.
I cannot stress how it feels like the whole car is against you. You can move the hose and battery, but you can't move the ABS modulator (well, unless you want a lot more work) and you can't move the thing that holds up your hood. Your go to tools will not fit. You can look at it or feel it but you can't do both.
If I had to do it again by gunpoint, I would get lights that can get into nooks, look into super small ratchets, and set aside more time.
Glad the video helped!
I changed the ATF Temp Sensor and a front O2 sensor on an Acura and I swear I spent more time separating the connectors, so not to crack/destroy them, than most other steps. Get some wood toothpicks and unlatch the lock and shove 1-2 toothpicks into the slot to hold the lock open. Then you will have two free hands to separate the connector.
Thanks for the video, you do good work, your hired!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. This is a great tutorial!
Great video in detail thanks
Cheers!!
Glad it was helpful!
I have noticed some data inconsistencies on my Pilot. My mechanic pulled up the info to service the fluid change. He told me it was a dump and refill with no filter. He also told me it takes 2.9 quarts. Now I double check all maintenance instructions before I buy components of get procedures done. Thanks for the part numbers by the way!
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Wow, it's the same setup on my 06 Honda odyssey😳 didn't know where the filter was located till now, thank you so much👍
You are very welcome glad it helped!
Excellent video
Thank you
Pretty nice to see the 2005 Pilot in detail, thanks for doing this.
Your the first video I saw that used the same tall transmission funnel that I was planning to use. No sketchy pour technique needed.
It seems to me like you would get more fluid out if you jacked the rear end up higher than the front. Maybe you could skip the unnerving step of idling in Park with no fluid. Some old fluid is ok I think.
I found playing this at 1.5 speed was about right, this is a pretty common preference I've found for videos with this pace, thanks for keeping it a consistent even articulate speed.
thanks a lot...the best explanation and the only one replacement filter...now why they gave me a kit so 2 transmission filters??..the carriage and the other one looks like exterior..
Every video of what continue to metric size to take off the transmission filter that would be very helpful
About to do this now. Im at 210,000 and this has never been done. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
No problem. Glad it was helpful!
How did it go? Any issues after? Scared to do the same, never been done probably.
@@lightworker303 From what I recall it wasn't too difficult. I remember struggling a little to get the filter on -- not as difficult as changing the alternator.
@@MushroomsMythologyandMedicine That's good. I just was wondering if you had any long term driveability issues, some say don't change fluid that's not been done for a long time.
Don't get it flushed. But definitely drop the fluid and refresh it with some new. It will help so much. Than do it again in about 3-6 months. Fluid should be a pretty red. If it's any other color when pit in a napkin it's time to refresh.
I wouldn't change all the fluid as it doesn't when you open the drain plug. You will get about half or close.
The fluid holds alot of shavings.
Good luck
Best video
Very precise. Thank you. And thanks for saving me the cash.. we can all use savings. *subscribed*
Thanks; glad it helped!
Awesome
Great video very detailed.I was wondering would a 2006 3.5 V-Tec Honda Ridgeline have the same Transmission Filter? The Engines and Transmissions look the same. Thanks!
It should. They share the same platform. However; I know the 2006+ Pilot (facelift when the Ridgeline came out) has a slightly different setup. If I recall the filter is IN the housing and not serviceable (short of spitting the housing open.
Thanks so much. I heard 2003 models have transmission problems. I hope changing the oil fixes my slipping gears. 😩
Keep in mind the 2003 has a different filter (it is a spin on I think) design but similar location. Also, if it is already slipping it might not be a fluid blockage or low fluid but the torque converter.
Yeah; looked it up. If you do have a 2003. This is the part:
www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~filter~25450-p7w-003.html
@@brycecarlson thanks. It just randomly doesn't catch the next gear as I drive. It has done it 4 times in 4 months since I got it. I still drive it to work daily. I just have to put it in Neutral and then back to Drive and it shifts fine. While I drive.
My 05 manual says to check level when at operating temperature but engine off.
Great info how many timing belt change did you go through? I have a 2007 Pilot at 205k miles change it at 115k. Also like other comments Honda does not recommend changing the filter, but it does not hurt. Great video.
Thanks! Glad the video helped!
I bought mine from a family friend that was the first owner to pass off to my brother in-law. The original owners did new belts religiously at 70k all of its life.
It's insane how far you have to dig down to the atf filter. Like why bury something that needs to be changed often underneath things that will almost never get changed?
Because it's not suppose to be changed Honda considers it not a serviceable part. It's there for life.
You performed a tranfer case drain and fill video alao?
I did not as I had found one already that had good lighting and info:
th-cam.com/video/lCrjuXLSScM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MIw5uP0QX6ehSuf1
I’ve been told by mechanics in the past that my pilot didn’t have a transmission filter. How often are you supposed to change it?
There is no stated interval for the filter. I just changed it because I wanted to.
Depends on the year. the 200x-2006 3.2 V6 in the Acura had them, then gone starting in 2007. I'm not sure the exact year that barrel filter was introduced, only that owners of newer models wish they had them.
Some videos talk about using Valvoline Maxlife ATF for the super high mileage Pilot’s…any comments on that ?
I would not. I always just use the OEM ATF. The 2005 Pilot in this video that my brother in law now has is at 300k miles and always got OEM ATF.
Buen dia, excelente video, este procedimiento ¿puede aplicarse a una Honda Pilot 2003?
Me imagino que si.
what if i only change the filter and not the spring or o rings or washers? kind of an emergency situation here and cant get them in time.
Depending on the age of the o-rings it may or may not leak. I commonly replace them just because they get crispy with age. You might get luck and not have a leak.
Would the same procedure and parts, including part numbers be the same for a 2008 Honda Ridgeline?
Thank you in advance.
No it would not. The 2006 Pilot facelift and launch of the Ridgeline was a re-design and the filter is located INSIDE the transmission housing.
@@brycecarlson thanks for answering my question.
Have a great day.
2006 2WD filter is inside the case you can't replace it unless you remove the transmission and split the case. Nuts to put a paper element filter in a place can't replace it.
Agreed!
can anyone answer this if you pull out the whole transmission does the filter part come out with it or is that a seperate part thats by the engine . Im asking because my friend said the filter is somewhere else not exactly with the transmission. I was telling him about this video
So I know the 2003 and 2004 model years have a slightly different filter and the 2006 and up model years it is not accessible unless you split the transmission case in two (outside of the vehicle obviously).
I couldn't find it on my 2008 honda pilot ex. I searched TH-cam and Google and can't find it. It's not the same place in the video. Please help me
It is not serviceable like this video shows on the 2006 and up Pilot. The filter is inside the transmission housing.
Did you have any transmission issues after changing the transmission fluid and filter?
Negative; it was all good. But this Pilot has regular fluid changes all it's life before I got it from the original owners. I passed it on to my brother in law and he put another 40l miles on since I filled that.
Will this fix my ATF over heating issues, it switches it to N neutral on my transmission and prevents me from shifting gear in the middle of the freeway traffic. It dangerous and i had to glide it to tbe shoulder lane by dodging cars.
@@larrywashington6259 I am curious as well.
@@larrywashington6259 @rebaccaestep1972
If you have not already Check the transmission cooler line attached to the bottom of your radiator. This is common problem with the pilot 2003-2008. The metal line rust out and you end losing a significant amount of transmission fluid over time.
If you have met the same fate as me on the highway there was gray smoke all behind your vehicle and the ATF light was on and vehicle no longer accelerating. Sometimes it would just simply overheat and I would pull over and wait for it to cool down. But that ended up being the culprit. Easy fix is to get a Line rated for transmission 36” in length. Run the line with one or two loops zip tied to give the flow the same effect of having the metal line on. Haven’t had it overheat on me ever again.
Can I change the fluid without the filter change? Just wondering how imperative that step is.
You could. That is what most dealers will do for a service. They treat the filter as a lifetime item. I just replaced it because I wanted to.
What size socket are you using to take off the filter housing
If I recall it was the 3 bolts with 10mm heads. Looking back at the video that afrims that as that is my 1/4th inch drive socket wrench and it looks like the 10mm socket is on.
You can see it at timecode 6:31 in the video
270,000miles,very impressive
Thanks!
i have 2008 pilot 4x4 value package. do they have the same process. may i know where is your shop location.
After the 2006 facelift the process changed. Read a few of the other comments I replied to hear about the post 2006 model years. The long and short of it is after the 2006 facelift the transmission filter became part of the transmission housing. It is no longer possible to change the filter from a user accessible location with the transmission still installed in the vehicle.
As to my shop location. I don't have one I'm just a private citizen that does diy. Sometimes when I'm doing those jobs I record them sometimes I don't.
@@brycecarlson
Thank you so much for your time. Stay safe and healthy. God bless.
I have a 2004 with a similar looking filter housing. Would the process be similar?
Yeah; the fluid quantity should be similar as well but I would verify with a dealer parts department or the service manual. The filter I THINK is this www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~filter~25450-p7w-003.html
@@brycecarlson Thanks Bryce! It was similar and in a similar location. The ‘04 was a spin on. A challenge to change, but got it done in an afternoon. Transmission people said I needed a rebuilt transmission for $4400 as the filter was “inside the casing” on my Honda. Thanks for that $4400 piece of info that the filter went internal in ‘06.
@@petersterrantino6602 yeah the location is not fantastic. But I get that it is not something that is replaced often if ever. Did it for this family members vehicle in the video just to be safe.
This should be the same procedure for my 06 Rideline, correct? Thanks!
It would be similar. However, if I remember correctly 2006 forward when the Honda pilot got a facelift when the Ridgeline came out the filter location changed slightly, and I don't think it's user serviceable. I think from 2006 on the filter is inside the transmission casing. I would go on a website like Hondapartsnow.com and look up the VIN for your Ridgeline and see if you can find the filter number and location on the diagram for that.
@@brycecarlson sounds good, thanks for the response!
How’s the rhino plastic tire stand , good .
Yeah! So far so good!
Hi , please does this filter change also apply to Honda Pilot 07, I was told by my mechanics, you cannot change the filter of Pilot 07, until u take out the tranny . I know there is another filter in the tranny , but this filter change you performed in this video. does it apply to 07 Pilot. Any help will be much appreciated
No; this is just for the earlier 2005 design before the 2006 facelift.
@@brycecarlson okay great. so the transmission wi have to come out if I intend to clean up or change the filters. Are this filters meant to be throughout lifetime of the transmission , cause it makes no sense why Honda will place so inaccessible
@@MrAde101 yeah they say that they are "lifetime". Even on the 2005 that I had. But since I could see how to get to it I replaced it.
Is this the same for 07 pilot ex
Partly. The drain and fill is similar. Check the relevant service documents for the 2007 to make sure you get the right fluid amounts, alternatively your dealer might tell you the amounts when you buy your fluids and washers from them. The part where it is not even close is the filter. After the 2006 face lift and redesign the filter moved inside the transmission housing fully. It is no longer user serviceable and the transmission is sealed for life short of dropping the subframe and doing a full transmission tear down you will not be able to get to it.
Good video except you prying on the cover the way you did you could have gouged the surface and caused it to leak when reinstalled.
he didn't pry on the sealing surface.
Why did you change the filter ??
Because it was original to the vehicle and I was already doing the ATF change at the same time. The vehicle was driving and shifting fine. Just preventative maintenance.
How many quarts do I need
I do not recall off the top of my head what I wound up using in real life, but what I put in the video description from the service manual is 3.2 US quarts.
I know it was close to that.
Is this for a 2wd transmission
Negative; this was a AWD model this was done on.
Great. I got the filter already. Thanks
All 2003, 2004, and 2005 Pilots were AWD only. You must have a 2006-2008 first gen. That is when FWD only became an option. This (25450-P4V-013) appears to be the correct filter for a 2006 FWD option (however; I would call your local dealer to verify or put your VIN in on the linked site to verify): www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~filter~25450-p4v-013.html
However; the process might be different to get to the filter as the parts diagram on that like above seems like a slightly different 5AT layout than the 2005 model year I had.
Just do the fluid change every 45k and no need to do filter just looking for trouble with those o rings and stuff
Yes; changing the fluid early and often is always a good idea.
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filter change Tramicion Honda pilot 2010 is located
After the 2006 the filter is now located in the transmission housing and not end user serviceable.
No you do not ever have to change trany filter!! Leave it.. no dealership will tell you to mess with it. I just had my 2005 honda pilot trany fluid 8/7/2023 tech said no need to change it why is this guy do it??? Just because! Guys leave better enough alone. Car has 275,000 miles.
Okay.
I mean I did it because I was curious to see the condition of it after 230k+ miles. It is a free country. 🤷♂️
The dealer doesn’t recommend it because it’s designed inside the transmission so it’s not really a serviceable part. But, for the guy who has the means the knowledge and the tools he can do whatever he wants with it.
Not true. Bad advice
Is your pilot front wheel drive or all-wheel drive?
This is a 2005 AWD EX-L