Why is it Difficult to Copy Money and IDs?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Counterfeiting has been around since time immemorial, but modern tech has made it more difficult than ever...
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I'm on some sorta watch list now, I guarantee it.
Same dude
Aren't we all?
No. No you do not. I'm sure you would know how to spell "Antarctica"
Thanks, Linus
Tyler Fleske They don't have the best schools in Antarctica.
I used to be a banker but I lost INTEREST
DestroyerOfAll wow didnt expect that. Nice plot twist
this exact same guy posted the exact same comment on the LTT Battlefield video...
Wonder how many heads that went over
guess its not kosher anymore. oy vey
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Reffering to credit card forgery, I've read about a very interesting theft in Poland. Some thieves made a special small chip they put on actual chip in the credit card. It would behave as basic gateway bertween ATM and the card, but when asked about PIN code, it returned always positive response. So it occurs that the PIN is checked only on card (obvious), but the rest of the communication isn't blocked behind a PIN number (it is huge gap in security as it should forbid the actual transaction if it didn't record the PIN).
Mmm maple syrup
Haha
The Hoax Hotel I watch you!
Wait, chip credit cards are a new thing in NA? I've had a chip card for 10 years now
+1
imagine the shock when they'll get wireless cards...
FlawlessWorldAces they're not new. It's just that no merchants wanted to invest in new card readers for the past decade and a half
We have Android and Apple Pay so...no.....not really.
now imagine a device that doesn't need to be charged, that is so thin and small you can always carry it in your wallet and it's accepted everywhere! No commission! BOOM! Presenting NEW! iBankCard! Superb Wireless technology!
Bruh, 1/3 of the video is an ad.
R4GEcraft what is this grade a under a or something
Just do like me and stop the video at the ad and thumbs down
So what you're saying it you watched a hopefully informative 4 minute video, with an 2 advertisement at the end.
they are taking it way too far... I know they've got to make money but damn.
at least they have the courtesy to put the ad at the end of the video
$CAD smells like maple syrup for the same reason $USD smells like cocaine ;-)
MrNateSPF Fuck you, maple syrup overdose is no joke
EDIT (2 Years later): Woah, ok, this read feistier than it needed to
That's cause there's too many trap houses in the States LMAO
This comment is underrated.
I'm not sure how to respond to that...
Oh... The Canadian police has to restrict sales of maple syrup the same way the "feds" banned transport of "coke".
New fangled chip cards? We've had them in the UK for more than a decade...
Yeah... well... America didnt have the chip and pin card readers that
have been used everywhere in the UK since the early 2000s until
recently. Even now, many places in the US do not use chip and pin
machines, the case is similar for canada.
Seems so strange since they have been used in the UK (and the rest of
Europe) for over a decade.
wapted Canada has had it for a while now, at least where I live. They also commonly use NFC which is really nice for Apple Pay or Android Pay as basically every machine works with it now.
I was about to post a command along these lines, never even had a bank card with the magnetic strip, I'd wondered for a while why they seemed to rare since swiping the card looks so much more convenient than chip and pin, didn't know about the security issues at that time though. :P
Natasha McEwan Swiping was actually less convenient because you had to sign the receipt. Also do you actually not have a magnetic strip or just don't use it?
oh, forgot about the signing. And I don't have a magnetic strip myself, other than on some loyalty cards.
lol all Canadian money smells like maple syrup if you get newer ones from like a bank.... at leastine does
Yea weird, mine smells like that too
The New, New Zealand Bank Notes were Printed by the Canadian Bank Note Company, when you scratch it and get close enough to smell it, it does smell kind of sweet and Syrupy. They are also real purdy.
True, I got new 100 bill today and it did smell like maple
yup its true
haha lol, will have to try it cause ima kiwi
Since when did chip and pin cards new ? 2005?
Yeah... well... America didnt have the chip and pin card readers that
have been used everywhere in the UK since the early 2000s until
recently. Even now, many places in the US do not use chip and pin
machines, the case is similar for canada.
Seems so strange since they have been used in the UK (and the rest of
Europe) for over a decade.
Andy Play's [BogAco] I know they've been around in Europe for years but they're new in the US, though they shouldn't be new to Linus as AFAIK they've been in use in Canada for a few years now.
Andy Play's [BogAco] Since when chip and pin cards around my anus? Oh wait, wrong channel.
LakesInStillness 2018
Magnetic stripe is about to be pushed out of the market in Europe and as soon as USA follows with chip, the magnetic stripe will be completely useless in Europe, cause the only reason we still have it some places, is cause of tourists
fun fact, scanners and photo editing programs like photoshop wil refuse to scan/open a file if it detects that it's money.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation
helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/cds.html
All you need to do is take away one of the circles with microsoft paint
My Photoshop doesn't do that.
My scanner doesn't do that either
I would use comic sans on the 100$ bill
Brazil currency paper money has holograms, two-and-half dimension painting, microscope printing, watermarks, security threads, if you stick together the two end sides of the same note together they combine, shine under UV and the size of the paper changes according to it's price. So I think forgery is more of an issue than I thought
That’s because Brazil is riddled with every type of crime under the sun
Dirpy Turtle like US
this video made me change my career decision.
Sosa to or from a forger
It's funny how we've progressed in this area, but identity theft has become easier.
It's all online now, the physical document could be infinitely safe, but it wouldn't change a thing. Someone doesn't even need to leave their chair to steal your identity if you do not protect it properly
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Damn, 2 minutes for a sponsor.
even worse that that is a third of the video length
yea guys this *FREE* content is just way to ridiculous
free content, and most ad's are placed at the end so you can easily skip them if not interested
You could pay 10 backs a month to skip them. Would you like to take that option...? If you don't want that, STOP bitching about the sponsors...
The worst part is when its at the end of the video so you dont even have to watch it. Damn linus
I got a counterfeit bill once. Got it back as a 5$ from A&W (Canada), guess they didn't know they had it in their system :p But I went to buy something from the convenience store down the block, and they have this thing that scans bills to see if they're real. They took my 5, and put it on the scanner and the whole thing just turned from blue to purple instantly. When it was pulled out, all the ink just changed colour permanently :p The lady gave it back to me and asked for another, and told me to get rid of that 5 because it's fake. So I switched it for a real 5 from my foster mom :p
"Newfangled chip cards". Meanwhile we've been using them in Europe since the 1990s.
but, but, but Europe is a lie perpetrated by the Red Scourge to bankrupt the US!
Also in Brazil, third freaking world and we're ahead of the all mighty USA.
DumbSloth87
Cuba has lower infant mortality rates than USA, being ahead of them isn't much of an achievement, really
DumbSloth87 Third World? Thought we stopped using that last century, Brasil(with an s...) is a QDC.
Chris Mullen we also have third world education, so I learned that way.
You should do an episode on Digital Certificates!
Honestly, the second you said that the US dollar uses proprietary government fonts, I thought of something: using only a gaming PC, an HD scanner, OCR software, AI Deep Learning, and a few dollar bills to scan, you could perfectly reverse engineer the fonts used on the US dollar, intentional flaws and all.
Canadian $100 bill, whats that is USA like 5 bucks? lol
Chris RTW So true lol
It's currently just under $75 usd. At least it's not as low as it was in mid january
$74.5 USD to be precise.
Miss those days few years ago when cad was on par with usd. Could build a great pc for $1000. Now its barely enough for i5, rx 470 build.
Cmon now, it's not that bad...*cries*
Thanks for all of the information Linus, I guess I'm going to have to re-calibre my money printing machine once again!
As a brit, I've never understood why it's taken the US and Canada so long to adopt chip and pin cards.
MouseNightshirt US here. unfortunately, we still don't! We have chip + signature, which is reportedly less secure than C+P
Surprised a tech channel didn't go into the EURion constellation that prevents standard commercial equipment from making copies. It's such a cool tech to keep our money safe from Joe Blow with a copy machine.
"New fangled chip cards" Linus you're Canadian. We've had those for a long time
I thought he was being sarcastic.
On the topic. Few years ago it was pretty fun here in Poland. In Krarow there were 2 or 3 guys copying US dollars in sucha way that they were better than originals and FBI was actually impressed on how good quality they were.
B-but A-Team taught me that you only need the plates to reproduce money!
Used to be like that :) Now they have added quite a few other security measures
NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ What am I going to do with all these plates then?
Quit whining and eat your dinner off of them?
British Tea Sell them to a noob that doesn't know times have changed?
Well this video was useless, I still don't know how to print money.
What kind of tech show tells you, what you can't do with technology? :(
When I was at high school, it was pretty easy to counterfeit such IDs in Germany. However, I didn't feel any need for that. By the time I developed any desire to smoke, I was of legal age for that anyway.
Canadian money smells like maple syrup?! all I smell on my American money is cocaine... I can't feel my face :)
There's also another technology used to prevent banknote forgery - Polymer Notes.
Australia was the first to use polymer banknotes starting with our Bicentenary (200th year) $10 notes in 1988, then starting in 1992 we replaced all of our notes with polymer ones beginning with the $5 (and full set by 1996 with the $100 that year), as is one of the few countries with the technology to produce polymer notes for use. Canada moved to polymer notes in 2011 with the help of Australia to do so.
WHY HE IS TALKING SLOW
is he*
P.S. put the video speed at 2
MrAvatin WHY HE IS SLOW
HE ISN'T. WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?
Because you're on speeds
He's explaining stuff to people, that's why.
My mom once had a Citi card that used MasterCard PayPass RFID. It wasn't until the new one she got after that a few years ago they switched to the chip.
Even more so, Target has had the chip inserts years before other stores ordering them.
Not to mention how stupid it is that some stores already have the slots for the chip cards, but they have been disabled since they got them years back. What's worse is that those same places buy new ones rather than jus enabling the feature.
Nice try NSA.
BTW colour shifting on banknotes was introduced much, much, earlier in Europe (most probably even earlier in other states) than in USA...
please make another episode on quantum computing
Thanks man
Canadian bank notes have a diffraction grating in the transparent maple leaf. If you shine a laser pointer through the centre of the maple leaf at a wall it will project an image of the denomination of the bill on the wall.
I hate when Americans call it monopoly money or funny money.
+Paperclown Except I'm not an American I'm a Canadian. I don't go around calling Americans Canadians, you guys already stole the 'American' name. I mean I really don't care but don't get upset if I correct you.
well calling people from the US canadians would would simply be wrong. you could however call people from canada, brazil or mexico americans and still be correct.
***** Okay but what else am I going to call "someone from the states" besides an American. Yes you are an American that is the proper term for someone who lives in "The United States of America". Am I supposed to call you a 'Staten' or a 'Uniter'!?
jort93z A·mer·i·can
əˈmerəkən/
adjective
adjective: American
1.
of, relating to, or characteristic of the United States or its inhabitants.
"the election of a new American president"
relating to or denoting the continents of America.
"the American continent south of the tropic of Cancer"
noun
noun: American; plural noun: Americans
1.
a native or citizen of the United States.
(subtext) - a native or inhabitant of any of the countries of North, South, or Central America.
2.
the English language as it is used in the United States; American English
Technically you're right but it's definitely not a common usage of the word. And I really don't want to be associated with Trump OR Clinton so please just call me Canadian.
ACTUALMIKU yeah trump and clinton are insane. i'd probably not call a canadian american but the point is that it wouldn't actually be wrong. but of course its not the common usage.
Money is insanly easy to counterfeit. All you gotta do is buy some 75%(+) cotton paper, a lazer printer, some basic photo shop skills, and a dryer (to give it that rough fill). Then go to your local ball park or w/e and buy a few hotdogs with a $100 bill (fake) and keep the change (real). do this a few times per game and your solid. The trick is to not get greedy.
You can still fool your local dealer with fake cash.
But would you want to risk it. The repercussions could be more hazardous to your health if you get caught.
If you do. You can just say you got that money as exchange somewhere else right. I mean, you're not an expert that knows how to tell fake money from real money.
That's how it works in the netherlands. homeless pay with lots of fake cash they exchange it for real money that way, and if they get cought they just say they didnt know and they can leave again.
The ad in the last was more effective than the whole video. Good Job
I want to see a video on magic beans.
The final five minutes really humored me. I really wanted to see if the ads had no end.
Who said it was difficult?
Wink, wink...
Me
How to do plz tell
I'm surprised Linus didn't really speak or demonstrate the various diffraction gratings that exist on Canadian bills. They're personally my favorite feature about the Canadian bills, besides the maple syrup smell that comes from the bills.
Last time I was this early.... the IPhone had a headphone jack!
+Archduke Crunch but it only counts if you used the new IPhone 7.
My Dutch ID-card actually has an NFC chip embedded in it, it identifies as "Electronic identity document (MRTD)". It would be possible that asymmetrical encryption was used to sign the data digitally, making it pretty much impossible to alter, but likely still possible to duplicate. Kind of odd how I've never seen the NFC functionality in our ID-cards been put to use, though.
I have seen it used at an airport where the border officer had doubts about the authenticity of my passport, he used something like mifare to read the chip and verifify that the infos printed matched what was on the chip (but he didn't took my fingerprints although it was stored on the chip too so he was able to verify that the document was authentic but not if it was mine)
Wait, Canada still uses magnetic strips?! Strips have been used in Europe for like 10 years!! Contactless is our new payment method!!
they exist mostly as a backup to the chips, it's rare to have to swipe a card
Even though Linus is in Canada, this video was more focused on the US viewers. I live in Canada and I don't remember when was the last time I saw anyone use the mag stripe on a card (I'm 20 years old). We had chips for as long as I can remember and for a few years now, NFC is becoming our new favorite payment method.
Mag stripes are still used for prepaid credit cards and company credit cards though, but they're rare. (I work at a gas station... I see a lot of cards every day lol)
In the US though, they are just catching up to 15 years old technology and are only starting to use the chip instead of the mag stripe. They seem to like fraud :P
Those who are keen and heaven-bent on doing something, they'll find ways out and around.
They can work in the factory/workshop where the machines get built or notes etc. get printed to learn everything and they can sample fonts/letters by gathering all the notes etc. required to extract the alphabets, numbers and signs and then use them and to fill in for gaps (like when replacing an S with an A), they precisely use masking and other such features to rebuild the required information (such desired information for the desirable or should I say required input can be gathered by reading a few of the notes etc. carefully) or he or she can rebuild the whole note or a particular region to make it seamlessly blend in. And now that people know about the thermal-ink, they'll find ways around that as well.
It requires a lot of work but given that the outcome it will have, well, it might just be worth it for that person. And all this sounds easier than done but well, "where there is a will, there is a way".
Next thing you'll tell me is that LinusSexTips is fake.
I look forward to the next video on debit cards. Are you also going to touch on Apple/Android/Samsung Pay?
Thanks Linus I used this to start counterfeiting my own money
For an extra example the Euro also has a UV paint layer so you can check for validity under a blacklight.
Last time I was this early...
Gedeon Kele You didn't even try, dude.
Last time I was this early I was very early
Joshua W *#Doxed*
The Ad transition was smooth af, well done Linus.
Is Bitcoin still on the rise or did that fade into the shadows
Chillie Dog price-wise, it's doing quite well. There's been a lot of infighting amongst the community though, which has resulted in slower development and less growth.
No, now its only worth 0,00076 cents
U didn't talk about that pattern of yellow dots on the left of the note. (In the UK anyway)
The embedded systems inside photocopiers will refuse to print or copy anything with that specific pattern of yellow dots on it
I don't think it has to be yellow. I think I've seen well visible pattern like that included as design elements on some bills.
Being European, this video seems a bit basic to be honest.
#BritsAreBAE
Jan Thomas it’s common practice for everywhere lol
If SquareSpace gave me a look at what their editors or whatever they have are like instead of some fancy, but completely abstract computer animation, I might have given them a look.
And the new plastic £5 note.
Maxx Pc they feel horrible but are super strong 💪
Chip cards are new?
Swipe cards are archaic, and chip transfers are on the way out as well, now that touch less payments are becoming more and more common.
Potato
PlayerFive77 potato
I like trains.
Turnip
PlayerFive77 Like trains? how bout my videos!
Seriously, Linus has some of the best ads and ad transitions ever. I am awed at almost every next video he is in...
I work in a shop in a pretty rough area and fake notes and IDs are usually obvious af, some fake ID is actually hilarious with how bad they are. Some notes are good though and you have to use special pens and lights to see them
probably the best sponsor transition you've done so far, smooth and perfectly worded. :D
Wait, you guys still swipe cards? Here in the UK we switched to chip and pin about a decade ago and now most payments are done with contactless. Why are you lot so behind?
It is actually true that Canadian money smell maple sirup. The thing is the smell quickly disappear and thus is only perceptible on new money. I tried to smell it 2-3 days after they launched the new plastic ones and it was very obvious.
Don't forget the EURion constellation, a geometric pattern present on many currencies that can easily be detected by household scanners and other imaging equipment, so it will refuse to make high definition copies.
Here in Brazil the norm for credit cards is the chip for the last 10 or more years. Always found it funny when a friend from USA went to visit and used his card that you had to swipe the magnet.
If you're in the UK and underage, you can register a Learner Driver's licence - you do not need to give real details and officially it is not good enough ID for anywhere but everywhere accepts it (just get the gov't to make your real ID with fake details), or order things online.
You can also add the EURion consteliation on euro bills. Some scanner will refuse to scan if they detect this patern.
Now the funny thing here, they went from mag to chip for security and we can no longer sign for credit for "security" reasons we need a pin but hell lets add an RFID chip and allow pay-wave/NFC technologies which are MUCH MUCH more insecure.
You need to phyiscally swipe or copy a mag/chip but RFID can be read remotely and goes down a massive rabbit warren from there.
Do both videos ... About credit card and about exchange. Thank you Linus for educating me :)
The fun part that they are skipping over is that despite all of these measures counter fitters still manage to produce passable fakes. The wheel turns and nothing changes
Cool video. Didn't see the mention of the fancy hidden patterns in money that make it literally impossible to scan. Most scanners will just literally stop scanning when they detect it. And photoshop will kill the file if it catches the pattern in too perfect an angle.
I always imagined it being easy just using a crudely forged bill to buy minor things. I mean, most stores don't have a currency scanner...
Erik Spiekermann, a popular type designer, once tweeted that if a monetary reserve/central bank uses a specific font sold commercially, they should have the license to own, use, and print it, as well as the designer and printing house in question. He mentioned this in his tweets about the use of his FF Meta in the new 50 CHF note.
Once I was researching about guns for my animated short... Google search banned me for a day. I wonder how it went for Linus.
Aakash Kalaria Eh?
***** I had to use catchpa every time to open a google image and link from google's search page.
Thats called malware
restart the router might help
Omer Neu It was many years back.
Not really what i used to see at LTT but hey, i would like you to take a look at currency in general, including the newest like for example bitcoins.
And for the credit card follow ups, pls talk about how you feel if cash dies out. I like my cash....
greetz from germany
it still amazes me that chip and pin is a new thing in North America. In the 20 years I've been alive I've never seen anyone swipe a card outside of US TV shows and movies
Our country was a metallic strip that weaves from one side to the other. You will see a broken line on both sides bu those are actually one strip.
You should've mentioned micro print. The line underneath Washington on the WA State drivers licences, for example, is actually Washington printed over and over again... washington
that ad transition was on a whole other level.
This video is awesome.
You gave me something that I didn't even know I wanted.
in australia the new 5 dollar note has a giant see though strip in it with engravings and holograms
"New fangled chip cards" are old school over here in the UK, we have moved on to contactless already!
We've been using chip and pin/contactless for years in Canada as well. He's just referencing how new that is in comparison to the magnetic strip technology cards have been using for 30+ years.
I still find it odd that America and Canada dont have full use of Chip and Pin cards yet, when here in the UK we have been using it for 10 years..
Are chip cards only just coming out in the USA? We've had them for absolutely ages here it's almost the only way you pay for things unless you don't have a credit card
FUN FACT: shining a laser through the clear maple leaf on Canadian bills projects a maple leaf with the dollar value around it onto the wall
here's the thing, the more security features a document has the easier it is to pass a fake. this is because most don't need to be exact just a close approximation. when the person accepting the document sees that the features are all there real or not it's accepted. any feature can be replicated with enough time, money and inventiveness.
the difficulty lies in databases. if you have a fake passport, it can be 100% exact but when that barcode gets scanned and some other face pops up on the customs officials screen you're done.
remember tho. secure practices are only as effective as their weakest link. Many could get away with forging cash considering how unlikely it is that a cashier will take the time to check every slip with a counterfeit marker.
Where I work we have a marker that when drawn on a real bill we be clear/Yellowish, but brown/black on fake bills. How does this work?
The problem is though if the people who make the money can do it then anyone can do it. It's the same with art counterfeiters, these people are so highly skilled even professionals find it very hard to tell which is the fake. And that's art this is money. It's probably quite wide spread but it's not in the media much because it's so hard to catch.
Nice!
Would be good to know about RFid Credit Cards as well and their problems with security (if any)
here's something that might be worth saying when you do the credit card video
signing the back, it is something I've noticed that is rarely done by US travellers,
also, while chip is harder to copy, it is easy enough to by pass, (happy to go into it,) but the system is only as safe as the user, and the user awareness
Low value currency such as $1 bills (only chemically reactive ink) and pennies, have no special markings to prevent counterfeiting.
I wonder if anyone actually goes around and counterfeits pennies.
Some of the "imperfections" is also a code, like a hidden QR - code and it need to match the serial-number/productnumber
What does it cost a government (Canada for example) to produce cash and how big would be the advantage of getting rid of it and only pay electronic.
You could have talked about the circled symbols on cash, that will stop scanners to work when scanning a banknote ! ;)
I'm wondering how far Linus has deviated from his original vision for tech quickie.
How do they prevent hackers from hacking money on their bank account?