AND, because she knows Korone doesn't really want to give the shiny away. Which is...something interesting to me about Japanese culture and friendship. People will offer their friend something, even though they really want to keep it, and the other friend will refuse it, even if they really want it. I don't do this with my friends, and I'm pretty sure most Americans don't either. Like..if someone offers me something that I want, I'm taking it. I never would have even thought they actually didn't want to give it to me. And by the same token, if I want to keep something, if it's important to me, I'm not going to give it away.
@@ethervagabonddude, thats not even about japanese culture 😅 i think its about asian culture or most asian culture. I find it quite wholesome but its pretty frequent occurence to see that kinda interaction here in SEA too. I once learned this in college, but a lot of western country doesnt have this level of "consideration" in their culture.
Their chemistry is so adorable, both on and off stream. I just love these two. I wish I understood Japanese so I could watch their content directly, rather than having to rely on clips.
It may seem daunting, but I would encourage you to at least learn the basics of Japanese (hiragana, katakana, sentence structure, particles, etc.). I'm far from fluent, but knowing the basics will allow you to pick up a lot more than you'd think just from context clues.
Imagine learning a language that uses symbols instead of letters, swaps vowel sounds compared to English (i and e), and is written backwards. A lifetime job. Anyone not born in an English speaking country has it easy, I swear. English isn't hard, it's just terrible.
@@AceStrife As English is my 3rd language, I can definitely attest to that. It's not a hard language to learn, just annoying with all the exceptions to every rule that exist, and then differences between British English, American English, Canadian English, etc...
@@TheLINEPIECE1 I get what you're saying, but as their private lives are secret we don't know how much overlap there is between the real and fake. I enjoy the interactions regardless, so don't tear down other ppls pastimes just because you found out ur oshi isn't real
@@TheLINEPIECE1 Moe means cute, though, so I wouldn't necessarily say it's childish per se. Also most hobbies and pastimes involve consuming some product: Stamps, writing, reading, playing games, watching tv, etc. So unless you're advocating for just going on walks or exploring nature, I don't know why you need to point that out. There's no problem inherent or otherwise in these hobbies folks have. Heck, some of us don't even buy much merch anyway. Just let people enjoy their free time when they're not at work, ok? I'm sure you like watching TH-cam considering you're here on the site. Watch a different streamer? Maybe a non-vtuber? Or maybe even a vtuber who doesn't play a character. They do exist despite you assuming most do.
@@alexjustalexyt1144 Korone's previous gig was Aya from AyaMina Games. The other girl was Mina (which would be who the other guy was talking about) and her next gig was Inui Toko for Nijisanji (listening to them side by side, I couldn't tell the difference), not Nekomanta Okayu. Reason, we know for a fact Okayu's previous gig was Ikasumi-Kei Joshi, which livestreamed at the same time as AyaMina Games at least once (plus the voice is completely off anyway, Mina sounds more like... I dunno, Subaru than Okayu).
@@LecherousLizard probably he meant they didn't specifically mention the name and instead only 'this shiny version of a pokemon' which can be....anything. (Though probably in that case the translator already knew which one was the shiny that got clipped)
@@schokoladereee Oh, that one. I mean, they give enough information to identify it, I guess. Definitely something you'd find rather quickly if you actually watched entire streams.
Indeed! I seen some antis saying that this was a planned (hot mic) and that they just do this to make people believe they sent playing characters. I can’t even imagine thinking in such a pessimist way lol.
I mean, if you streams for a long, long, long time, you wouldn't want to play characters that are completely foreign and different with your own character. Not even the best actor in the world could play a character that's far from their own for hours without mental issue
they were friends before they even got to hololive. i have a memory of a gold fish but if i remember correctly okayu's grandma have this bakeshop thingy and korone was a regular customer and that's how they met if im not mistaken. tho i dont remember which of them talked about it on stream
Idk bout REAL name, from what I've heard they refer to each other by code names off stream, since they could get recognized by their voice in public, and they certainly can't go around calling each other their holomem names. But she might've almost said her code name, which wouldn't be as bad, but then everyone would have to learn a new code name. This is just what I've heard though, considering I don't know anyone with even a remote connection to cover, it could be total bullshit.
I have some friends that are vtubers. All of them prefer calling out each others by their streaming name or some kind of nickname (that related to their streaming name) instead of their real name when they're hanging out.
@@exu7325 why do people keep saying things like this? Can you just let us BELIEVE that IRL they are just like they are on stream? Can you let us have a tiny bit of joy between the great slogs of misery that is this capitalist death march? 😔
When you have a nickname for someone Even if you know their real name, calling their nickname is more fun I call my friends with their online games name than their real one back in high school
Although they have a character role, the only thing they roleplay is the lore. They don't have false personality. The character personality is their real personality. It won't last and they'll get stress if they act all the time. So they are just themselves.
This is what makes hololive so enjoyable they are pretty much the exact same off screen as on especially when they are together, they all get along so well its super heartwarming and fun to watch
Mic Safety Rules: 1. Treat every mic as if it were hot. 2. Know your audience and what's behind them. 3. Never point your mic at anything you aren't willing to record . 4. Keep your finger off the button until you're ready to go live.
Although the video shows how out of stream they have a great friendship, I don't know why every time I look at this shiny pokemon it makes me laugh how it seems that its own color bothers it, like a cat when it sees that its plate has no food
Okayu reminded me of when i was in elementary and i got a “Slifer the Sky Dragon” card from a pack, but then proceeded to trade it with “Rescue Cat” which my older brother had just because it was so damn cute. Also i knew he really liked Slifer so it’s all a win-win in the end. Actually it’s even funnier that both cases involve a cat somehow
bit of a necropost but okakoro knew each other before hololive, korone got in as a recommendation from okayu so I think if anything they would be more accustomed to real names than character names (though since it has been so long they might've just decided to change + likely training as mentioned above) @@elektra8535
Okayu: I've NTR'd, right? Korone: No. Okayu: Fess up. I've been NTR'd. Korone: I swear, that's not true. Okayu: Admit it~! Korone: That's not true. Okayu: Let me hear you say it~!
It was intresting how okayu calling korone well... "Koro-san" even before the stream started, since they befriend so long ago, its a good things tho so an accident unlikely to happen
These are scripted right? Or are they trained to call each other by their vtuber names on and off camera? If they do train itd make sense so no slip ups off camera happen.
i think its that they tend to use vtuber names even when hanging out alone! ive heard that they have code names for when in public so that no matter what, their real names dont get revealed though! either way i think after streaming together for years it becomes natural to use their vtuber names as if they were simply nicknames :)
They both sound better when they're not tweaking their voices tbh. Ofc, not that big a difference (luckily), but some JP are just awful to listen to because it's so fake.
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Depending on who it is, the company they're under probably tells them to act like on stream when preparing for a stream, to avoid bad stuff. It's been used as a bit before though
@@ThatGuy-c maybe, but that doesn't mean they will necessarily do it. I mean especially when you've done hundreds of streams and you might start getting overconfident.
They really don't, in this case. Korone clearly makes her voice higher after finding out that the mic is on. She also acts more cutesy and moe after that.
8/10 times they, as in streamers, "forgett to mute or unmute" its done on purpouse to get reactions. Esp the japanese vtubers that are in agencyes. Everything they do is super calculated and scripted. And no this isnt a hate comment. From what I have seen of short clips on youtube, they seem funny. The clips I have seen atleast.
I don't think I have EVER seen one of these "Oops, I leaked my voice pre/post stream." from Hololive where a girl has EVER broken character or used their "real voice." Just saying, it's often a preplanned bit which is fine for content.
They make a habit of staying in character pre-stream so they don't get caught out revealing something about their private lives they're not supposed to.
Eh, depends on your perspective. Korone definitely talked faster and more casual in tone in this clip than in others. There’s the possibility that this too might be an act, but at that point, why bother? It’s not like this is some hilarious bit that was really entertaining or made things crazy fun for the viewers or something. A lot of effort to make a “fake” bit for really very little payoff
Certainly some of the time they do it as a bit but this one doesn't feel like it, they were doing legit pre-stream prep and their voices are clearly more relaxed than when on stream
Then you haven't seen a lot. The issue is, both Okayu and Korone basically already use close to their normal voices, even having explained so. Okayu even commenting once "OYYY, what you mean you can't hear the difference?!"
![[Hololive] Okayu and Korone Trying VERY HARD Not To Laugh](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/p89ni82uI1Q/mqdefault.jpg)
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![OkaKoro Talking to an A.I. Immediately Turns into Horror [Hololive]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vANh145bEOA/mqdefault.jpg)
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Okayu insisting on wanting Stuffy instead of the shiny was really cute. She wants it because Korone gave it a goofy name.
AND, because she knows Korone doesn't really want to give the shiny away. Which is...something interesting to me about Japanese culture and friendship. People will offer their friend something, even though they really want to keep it, and the other friend will refuse it, even if they really want it. I don't do this with my friends, and I'm pretty sure most Americans don't either. Like..if someone offers me something that I want, I'm taking it. I never would have even thought they actually didn't want to give it to me. And by the same token, if I want to keep something, if it's important to me, I'm not going to give it away.
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@@ethervagabonddude, thats not even about japanese culture 😅 i think its about asian culture or most asian culture. I find it quite wholesome but its pretty frequent occurence to see that kinda interaction here in SEA too.
I once learned this in college, but a lot of western country doesnt have this level of "consideration" in their culture.
@@silvershowerhandle aah thanks. I never dig deeper about it before.
@@ethervagabond that's not about japanese culture dude, you're just a little selfish
Their chemistry is so adorable, both on and off stream. I just love these two. I wish I understood Japanese so I could watch their content directly, rather than having to rely on clips.
Time to learn Japanese then!
It may seem daunting, but I would encourage you to at least learn the basics of Japanese (hiragana, katakana, sentence structure, particles, etc.). I'm far from fluent, but knowing the basics will allow you to pick up a lot more than you'd think just from context clues.
Imagine learning a language that uses symbols instead of letters, swaps vowel sounds compared to English (i and e), and is written backwards.
A lifetime job.
Anyone not born in an English speaking country has it easy, I swear. English isn't hard, it's just terrible.
@@AceStrife As English is my 3rd language, I can definitely attest to that. It's not a hard language to learn, just annoying with all the exceptions to every rule that exist, and then differences between British English, American English, Canadian English, etc...
@@lareolanKFP France:"Well, we like to be with the trend"
"oops mic's on"
"oh look there's scream tail!"
they have their priorities straight LOL
It's endearing that they pretty much sound the same on and off stream. I also enjoy little behind the scenes moments like that.
@@TheLINEPIECE1 you do you, Dont We other people. Just you, YOU need a cooler hobby. Leave it at that
@@lyreangelelbridget9162 Very sad that you felt the need to say this. You must be bought in pretty deep. Your brand loyalty will go unrewarded.
@@TheLINEPIECE1 I get what you're saying, but as their private lives are secret we don't know how much overlap there is between the real and fake. I enjoy the interactions regardless, so don't tear down other ppls pastimes just because you found out ur oshi isn't real
@@chumbopshop I hear you. But. Perhaps. There is an inherent problem in someone's passtime being Consume Product.
@@TheLINEPIECE1 Moe means cute, though, so I wouldn't necessarily say it's childish per se. Also most hobbies and pastimes involve consuming some product: Stamps, writing, reading, playing games, watching tv, etc. So unless you're advocating for just going on walks or exploring nature, I don't know why you need to point that out. There's no problem inherent or otherwise in these hobbies folks have. Heck, some of us don't even buy much merch anyway. Just let people enjoy their free time when they're not at work, ok? I'm sure you like watching TH-cam considering you're here on the site. Watch a different streamer? Maybe a non-vtuber? Or maybe even a vtuber who doesn't play a character. They do exist despite you assuming most do.
Love how even after noticing the mic is unmuted they just continue doing what they were doing without skipping a beat.
They've streaming together way before Hololive. No need to fake anything. It wouldn't last that long.
@@McDinglefart_69that's not true. That girl wasn't Okayu
@@Kougeru wdym?
@@alexjustalexyt1144 Korone's previous gig was Aya from AyaMina Games. The other girl was Mina (which would be who the other guy was talking about) and her next gig was Inui Toko for Nijisanji (listening to them side by side, I couldn't tell the difference), not Nekomanta Okayu.
Reason, we know for a fact Okayu's previous gig was Ikasumi-Kei Joshi, which livestreamed at the same time as AyaMina Games at least once (plus the voice is completely off anyway, Mina sounds more like... I dunno, Subaru than Okayu).
So this is what happen when you leave the Dog and the Cat alone in the house huh.
They look at pokemon
We need to spend a minute respecting the translator for also understanding which Pokémon they are talking about when they simply said “this shiny”.
There's a wiki page with Pokemon English and Japanese names though.
@@LecherousLizard probably he meant they didn't specifically mention the name and instead only 'this shiny version of a pokemon' which can be....anything.
(Though probably in that case the translator already knew which one was the shiny that got clipped)
@@schokoladereee Except they did specifically mention the name. "Mukkuru" is how the Pokemon is called in Japanese.
@@LecherousLizard but mukkuru is Starly right? The name of the shiny one (the pink bigfootish looking) as far as I see in the clip wasn't mentioned.
@@schokoladereee Oh, that one. I mean, they give enough information to identify it, I guess. Definitely something you'd find rather quickly if you actually watched entire streams.
"How many years have you been streaming?" LMAO
they are exactly the same on stream this warms my cold heart
Indeed! I seen some antis saying that this was a planned (hot mic) and that they just do this to make people believe they sent playing characters. I can’t even imagine thinking in such a pessimist way lol.
I can't speak for other vtubers but korosan sounds exactly the same and even looks similar irl, at least I think so.
@@royalet7982probably. But personally I think I could hear a bit of panic in Okayu's voice
I mean, if you streams for a long, long, long time, you wouldn't want to play characters that are completely foreign and different with your own character. Not even the best actor in the world could play a character that's far from their own for hours without mental issue
@@AnnXYZ666 Yeah, tbh I cant imagine any of Hololive being terribly different irl, and I hope to never be proven wrong honestly.
The way Okayu said Koro-san was funny as fuck
Ikr
I love okayu's voice, haha, teasing koro-chan and giggling
pretty much exactly how I pictured their offscreen interactions lmao
With these two, there are no accidents. Just cuteness.
They're so freekin' perfect together!! OkaKoro is TOO adorable!!
They really are no different off-stream. OkaKoro is just their genuine chemistry all the time.
It makes me happy to see this
they were friends before they even got to hololive. i have a memory of a gold fish but if i remember correctly okayu's grandma have this bakeshop thingy and korone was a regular customer and that's how they met if im not mistaken. tho i dont remember which of them talked about it on stream
@@sadpotato7029 That one is their actual lore, not in stream story. That said, it's most likely an euphemism for their actual backstory as well
Forgetting to mute is like the flavor of GAMERS now. Both Fubuki and Korone do it often lol
Okayu definitely caught herself from saying Korone's real name, given that little hesitation. Good streamer discipline from best cat
Idk bout REAL name, from what I've heard they refer to each other by code names off stream, since they could get recognized by their voice in public, and they certainly can't go around calling each other their holomem names. But she might've almost said her code name, which wouldn't be as bad, but then everyone would have to learn a new code name.
This is just what I've heard though, considering I don't know anyone with even a remote connection to cover, it could be total bullshit.
I have some friends that are vtubers. All of them prefer calling out each others by their streaming name or some kind of nickname (that related to their streaming name) instead of their real name when they're hanging out.
They're probably trained to get in characters and treat every mic as "hot" once the stream is on.
@@exu7325 why do people keep saying things like this? Can you just let us BELIEVE that IRL they are just like they are on stream? Can you let us have a tiny bit of joy between the great slogs of misery that is this capitalist death march? 😔
When you have a nickname for someone
Even if you know their real name, calling their nickname is more fun
I call my friends with their online games name than their real one back in high school
Whether on or off, these girls are genuinely great together. It's adorable.
They're so cute
Although they have a character role, the only thing they roleplay is the lore. They don't have false personality.
The character personality is their real personality.
It won't last and they'll get stress if they act all the time. So they are just themselves.
they're really cute together. really love Okayu's soothing voice
Man. Feels like Okayu barely dodged a bullet calling her Koro-san.
love that these behind the scenes reveal always shows their really just this cute
Thanks for teetee clips... I need this so much after Ame... 😢
Domestic problem 😂
Man, Okayu with the warm up teasing xD
This is what makes hololive so enjoyable they are pretty much the exact same off screen as on especially when they are together, they all get along so well its super heartwarming and fun to watch
God, they're such gamers to their cores. I love it
Mic Safety Rules:
1. Treat every mic as if it were hot.
2. Know your audience and what's behind them.
3. Never point your mic at anything you aren't willing to record .
4. Keep your finger off the button until you're ready to go live.
very cute OkaKoro~
Although the video shows how out of stream they have a great friendship, I don't know why every time I look at this shiny pokemon it makes me laugh how it seems that its own color bothers it, like a cat when it sees that its plate has no food
My favorite thing about accidental mic-on moments like this is how the streamers will almost always just roll with it as soon as they’ve realized.
It's a good thing they use their character names all the time.
These are such wonderful friends. It heals the heart a bit
... so ... they are always adorable, sasuga
i love that their relationship is just like that outside of stream
I like how hot mic took less priority than "we need to find this scream tail"
I just love this two, they are adorable.
my cheeks hurt from smiling
Okayu reminded me of when i was in elementary and i got a “Slifer the Sky Dragon” card from a pack, but then proceeded to trade it with “Rescue Cat” which my older brother had just because it was so damn cute. Also i knew he really liked Slifer so it’s all a win-win in the end.
Actually it’s even funnier that both cases involve a cat somehow
These two are so adorable together, even when not "on camera." It's great.
This is why you should stream with your actual voice or at least close to it. Also scream tail was RIGHT THERE
okakoro just so cute and teetee!
I kind of imagine Okayu saying in her mind “KORONE INUGAMI YOU SCRUB!” On the active mic. 😂
I like korone's Mainstreet electrical parade theme.
I’m getting an overdose of serotonins
Omg lol was so confused because my game music was being mirrored because she is playing pokemon at the same time
2:44
I think of something
else... MY MIND. 🤣
It's lucky that Okayu still calls Korone "Koro-san" even when not recording lol...
They are professionals after all, they must be trained to treat the mic as always live in these situations for this very reason.
You'd expect to use an alias for everyone if you joined a group of anonymous people who use an online alias..
It's like when You call your online Friends still by their username instead of their real name, it just don't feel natural
bit of a necropost but okakoro knew each other before hololive, korone got in as a recommendation from okayu so I think if anything they would be more accustomed to real names than character names (though since it has been so long they might've just decided to change + likely training as mentioned above) @@elektra8535
Except okayu and korone aren't "online friends", I won't go into details but it's confirmed they've known each other irl long before hololive
Even before the stream Wingull.
I wish i had a friendship like they have.
Okayu: I've NTR'd, right?
Korone: No.
Okayu: Fess up. I've been NTR'd.
Korone: I swear, that's not true.
Okayu: Admit it~!
Korone: That's not true.
Okayu: Let me hear you say it~!
SHURE; THEY *totally* FORGOT; LOL!!!!
Natural koone is always the best
These two are so precious together.
I wish I knew Japanese...
Of course their real life chemistry is strong they are in a lesbian relationship
Cute OkaKoro teetee is always nice.
It was intresting how okayu calling korone well... "Koro-san" even before the stream started, since they befriend so long ago, its a good things tho so an accident unlikely to happen
Cute dog and cat!
Damn woulda been a disaster if they used their real name when talking
nice
why is there so many wingull xD
Huh. So one of the Pokemon is named "Mukkuru" in Japanese, exactly like the pet tiger-god from Utawarerumono? What's the chance?
These are scripted right? Or are they trained to call each other by their vtuber names on and off camera? If they do train itd make sense so no slip ups off camera happen.
i think its that they tend to use vtuber names even when hanging out alone! ive heard that they have code names for when in public so that no matter what, their real names dont get revealed though! either way i think after streaming together for years it becomes natural to use their vtuber names as if they were simply nicknames :)
They both sound better when they're not tweaking their voices tbh. Ofc, not that big a difference (luckily), but some JP are just awful to listen to because it's so fake.
this is more like a feature then an accident at this point, with korone...
How about add aqua in😁
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I sometimes wonder if streamers do this on purpose. I mean...they really talk and act just the same on stream as off!
Depending on who it is, the company they're under probably tells them to act like on stream when preparing for a stream, to avoid bad stuff. It's been used as a bit before though
@@ThatGuy-c maybe, but that doesn't mean they will necessarily do it. I mean especially when you've done hundreds of streams and you might start getting overconfident.
They really don't, in this case. Korone clearly makes her voice higher after finding out that the mic is on. She also acts more cutesy and moe after that.
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Sooo... They change their voice when talking even tho theyre not on stream? x)
Shhh my friend you will anger the antis… They have been having winter soldier episodes whenever someone says what you have haha.
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8/10 times they, as in streamers, "forgett to mute or unmute" its done on purpouse to get reactions. Esp the japanese vtubers that are in agencyes. Everything they do is super calculated and scripted.
And no this isnt a hate comment. From what I have seen of short clips on youtube, they seem funny. The clips I have seen atleast.
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They leave their mics on purpose guys. come on. its part of the shtick
I don't think I have EVER seen one of these "Oops, I leaked my voice pre/post stream." from Hololive where a girl has EVER broken character or used their "real voice." Just saying, it's often a preplanned bit which is fine for content.
They make a habit of staying in character pre-stream so they don't get caught out revealing something about their private lives they're not supposed to.
Eh, depends on your perspective. Korone definitely talked faster and more casual in tone in this clip than in others. There’s the possibility that this too might be an act, but at that point, why bother? It’s not like this is some hilarious bit that was really entertaining or made things crazy fun for the viewers or something. A lot of effort to make a “fake” bit for really very little payoff
@@glipmine7109 100% this wasn't a bit and you are correct
Certainly some of the time they do it as a bit but this one doesn't feel like it, they were doing legit pre-stream prep and their voices are clearly more relaxed than when on stream
Then you haven't seen a lot. The issue is, both Okayu and Korone basically already use close to their normal voices, even having explained so. Okayu even commenting once "OYYY, what you mean you can't hear the difference?!"