If the suicide problem among your workers is so bad that you have to take extra precautions in order to prevent your workers from committing suicide, then you're doing something very wrong
Foxconn employs about 1 million workers at any point in time; it's essentially a city of its own. Even with the best working conditions, there's going to be people who take their life for reasons unrelated to their work and out of their control. In fact, if you research deeper (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn): ABC News[32] and The Economist[33] both have done some simple comparison- although the number of workplace suicides at Foxconn is large in absolute terms, the suicide rate is actually lower when compared to the overall suicide rate of China[34] or the United States.[35] According to a 2011 Centre for Disease Control and Prevention report, the country has a high suicide rate with approximately 22.23 deaths per 100,000 persons.[36] In 2010, the worst year for workplace suicides at Foxconn with a total of 14 deaths, its employee count was a reported 930,000 people.[37]
Expensive product using cheap labour is true for Apple only. Look at so many China phone makers has premium materials and still the price is lower than iPhone
Yes. But I hope you realize this is communist China and not capitalist fat cats. There's always going to be a 1%. I'd rather be in the bottom 40-50% in the west than in the top 20-10% in China.
Have you live as 3rd world country normal citizens? As much as I hate to admit, the thing in the video isn't that bad. Even for the fact it pays low, the manager keep yelling, there is no violence (maybe) and it is still enough to appease hunger and let people browse movies and play games (if what he said is true) Turnover rate also high which mean people can choose whether to take the job or not. There are so many peoples here so it's hard to regulate real standards of living.
@@bocchi2403 In fact I live in a '3rd world' country, still I say there is no need to treat people like that. It's just that that people are used to being treated poorly so they make excuses for it.
Yeah right in asian and my friends like they dont commit sucide cuz of grades But cause the bullying is like pushing victim from something high or like abusing But actually i got a D once and i never even thought to commit sucide I dont know how n why u got those stereotypes
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cafe co You claim that kids in asia, like South Korean kids don't commit suicide? Um, when I last left Seoul, the Korean government expressed a great amount of concern on kids who get pressured by their parents. But from what I understand, its not just in Korea. Its all over asia. So either you're wrong, the Korean media is spreading fake news, or the government is lying. Before you answer, remember, you are your own self source of information.
Greatest American Hero the thing is im from asia and like most of my friends never even thing to commit sucide Buttt i heard news about commit sucide cuz of bullies or abusive parents soo there ya goo
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cafe co Just to let you know, I'm Asian-American. Not only do visit my relatives in Thailand, but I do business in Korea, Philippines, China, and sometimes Japan. I spend an average of $45,000 dollars in travels, and I invest millions of dollars a year in my overseas partners. So I'm there in that part of the world more than you are. It is true that bulling is a contributing to suicide, but kids are killing themselves, just to escape their parents overwealming pressure to succeed, is also a factor. So instead of listening to your friends, why don't you fact check yourself by looking into asias' government death reports, and stop cherry picking on facts that you only want to believe in. Quit covering up the embarrassing issues in asia, and address them as real issues. So there you go.
@doittillursatisfied byanymeansnecessary probably make a superior product. Apple deliberately design their devices to fail within a couple of years and they go out of their way to make it impossible to repair. They pander to *woke* mellenials pretending to care about justice, fairness,equality and saving the planet whilst running a modern day slave trade and creating millions of tons of completely avoidable waste. Most evil, cynical and hypocritical company ever.
@@hny4706 As awful as it is, I was relieved to hear that the majority of people leave 1-2 weeks or a month in! It seems like they're treating it more like a temporary money raising time. It sounds better that way in my head
@@AvitalShtap tbh, it’s the Chinese government. There is no law saying someone can’t start a business in another country. And to do that, they need authorization of the said place’s government. China uses their people for economic gain. I can bet you that that campus funded by apple ( obviously) was built and encouraged by the Chinese government. And the reason they choose to work there is cuz the pay is slightly higher than the other jobs around.
@@Niribu it isn’t. It is “owned” by apple under federal law. But run by the divisional head. Don’t blame apple, blame the head of that jurisdiction and the local authority that let that happen.
@@destinyn4910 I’ll say apple has 30 percent of fault they could just produce their phones else where but then again it’s a business and there’s no blaming businesses for wanting to gain more money
Incredible, he said they paid for food but only around 5 Yuan, did not mention is the dorms were included but probably. It’s a forced labor scenario aimed at student internship where they cannot graduate without credits towards working these factories. But the work force is getting older now that the baby boom years are over. But Wages are still 40 years behind United States
That's about what I make as a Carpenter in the Union in San Jose. Well my wage technically says there 55 $48 an hour. But after California is done taxing my check I make a little more
Boy, you guys are brainwashed by Western media to think it's a Chinese factory? Oh boy. They don't even dare to tell you it's owned by Taiwanese boss colluding with American boss to extort Chinese labor to produce what you claimed to be the best IPhones? But yet they made you blame on China.! Oh gosh!
Cost of living is certainly not low in a major city like Shanghai. In fact, it's incredibly high. You could say they are getting "free" accommodation but you would definitely still be struggling in Shanghai with that kind of pay.
astrohawke In the US, the minimum wage is USD 6 an hour or USD 48 at 8 hours. Can this pay your house rent, travel expense, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, internet, use of gymnasium and then send some money to your family? You will end up heavy on debts.
Very different in Canada. I’ve been an assembly line worker at a metal processing plant for 35 years started right out of high school. Great pay, steady hours, benefits, vacation pay, rrsp’s and union pensions, weekends off, and yearly bonus. The assembly line helped me put 3 kids through university and gave me a happy and easy life. Wouldn’t change a thing!
He's talking about people commiting suicide and people that are severely underpaid and lifetimes of boredom and tech insider uses the most cheery and upbeat music
Capitalism mixed with communism, Beekeeper. So, both of you, Beekeeper and Lukas, It is not a problem of idealism, It is goverment letting your people be explored. ¶;D~
Some of these things i have seen in American factories. I worked at a large-well known factory in the USA for a little over 10 years. Producing automotive parts for GM-Ford-Chrysler and some of the foreign manufacturers as well. First, this was a union shop. We have a union. I point that out because many people have this belief that unions protect workers and keep workplace rules in check. This is not always so. Our hours were equivalent if not worse than what this guy was saying. Your normal scheduled hours were 8 hour shift. But it was a regular-almost daily event that you would find out once you got there that you would have to do 12 hours. Then on some rare occasions at the end of that 12 hours you might be forced to stay 2-4 more hours. Break times were as followed. After your first 2 hours you got a 12 minute break. 2 hours later you got a 15 minute break. then every following 2 hours you got another 12 minute break. All of which time was deducted from your pay. It would take a good 5 minutes to walk to the break area or restrooms. My pay after 10 years? I was still only making $14 a hour. I was considered a longtime - legacy employee because most people they hired were smart enough to walk out after 2-4 weeks and i was one of the few to last that long. I ended up having to take some time off for sick leave due to a surgery, while off i found a different job and never went back. Didn't even call them to let them know. Best move i ever made.
Yeah, most people think stuff like that only goes on in foreign counties. A lot of places in the US now are demanding slave like conditions to protect their profits. The American dream is dead. Nobody pays anymore, the hours aren’t fair, nor the benefits. While the suits make $350k a year, the workers make 30k
I'm beyond impressed you lasted 10 years when most didn't even last a few months! And also saddened that your financial situation was that bad for 10 whole years that you couldn't leave sooner. I can't believe they also dedicted the 5 minute break from your pay. Hope you still have all your fingers.
A scientist doesnt mass produce thats the work of chemical engineers, in the world not everyone does everything, every person has their job..... except me I just exist to sleep
@@aaronjiang8964 Funny Funny, suicide rate in asia is high because they have the only working educations system and mentality. Life isnt about lovey dovey shit, up your game for humanity (Even though the other non chelant part of humanity are making fun of you and enjoying their mc donalds)
its obviously not for suicide prevention, it makes sense to prevent the apple product or parts leak out the factory, like what he said most people will leave after few months, so its not like there's a contract or anything ,if they dont like it anymore they leave
howard w Why the hell would you need netting under STAIRS. Since you can't smuggle a part by throwing it down the stairs, preventing suicide is the main objective here.
howard w it IS suicide prevention, there were multiple cases of workers jumping from the roofs few years back, just Google it, wages and working conditions was worse then, even more slave camp like.
@aworld m I completely agree with you seeing this makes me wanan switch my iPhone for a Another product seeing how apple treats these people like Just a machine to make them phones
actually those are decent living conditions in my country we have seen much worse living conditions so this is an upgrade they can stay in a room for free so their rent and meal is sorted they can buy some vegetables with their money and eat it to add to their nutrition but overall not that bad
Jesus imagine spending your life screwing the same screw in 6 days a week 12 hours a day. The beautiful, intelligent and creative animal that is the human...reduced to turning a screw.
i a china girl so mabe I can help share my idea to u. I think everyone have intresting life in china because life not easy. The man say peepo leave this job after 1 moth. So the peepo mabe did many different job before. Family back in village is intresting. Travel around china intresting.
Uhm, did you miss the part where they go out to town every Sunday? Also, you do know China has an insane amount of public holidays, including a 3 week (!!) consecutive lunar spring holiday right? I mean sure my country, the Netherlands, has like 28 or so days mandatory paid leave per year for employees BUT we don't have a 21 day period everyone is free!
Maybe the interesting part is when before they work in the factory. Just like people in jail. They share their interesting life before they end up there.
The sad thing is half the people in the comments are saying “good thing I have an Android” even though their phones are produced in the exact same conditions
Well,samsung made their phones using machine so I don't get your point....also,xiaomi and huawei workers were treated better or not worse than this ...apple is a billion dollars company so why not atleast gives better salary and better treatment?
@@zackzaidin4110 just a heads up buddy, factories and suppliers is an independent corporation from Apple. Apple has a contracts to corporations like the one featured in this video, (Pegatron). Pegatron is not subsidiary of Apple or owned by apple thus pegatron jurisdiction of their labor issues is not on Apple.co jurisdiction. And also I'm curious that you can say other phone companies doesnt do labor malpractices like this one? How? Because you cant find any video or article about it? You cannot say something and treat it as fact even if there is no proof that it does happend.unless if you do work there, then you have a damn right to say that to our faces. Many Factories in china is well known for their sweatshops, labor issues and child labor.
powerplayer75 a lot of jobs have that, but this is a bit more direct most likely due to the amount of people working there, but stressful jobs generally will have people e.g. In Human Resources that can help workers through suicide prevention programs and try to help them gain control over their life
powerplayer75 Trust me, this is more forgiving environment. We learned about these kind of companies as a part of our social studies in college. You have no idea what kind of shit workers go through in some of the biggest companies like Nike (when they're still being produced in China), disney toy factory, H&M, and a lot more well known brands. some of them are locked up inside the factory and they get beat up when they're too sick to work. Some of them sleeps 6 hours or less. Google "swetshops". Majority, if not all are in China.
MJ Y there was in fact some suicide cases, ( I don't remember how many but I think it was 5-8 in one year ) this workers suicide in the year when I phone 5 was built...! I remember because there was a big discussion about this...! as you can see, these peoples working condition are very bad...!
Jaredgotbackpain excuse me, what about you? Do you have an interesting life? Who the f*** are u to judge people???! Must feel rly proud coz u insulted other people...
That would go against the thing they are trying to achieve. They're trying to have the workers work as much as possible and give them as little as possible so they can produce products at the lowest price possible.
@@Galaxia53 they can atleast give them old refurbished/used models that nobody buys from their inventory, doesn't has to be a new one.And that too as a reward for their dedication. I think apart from money there should also be other incentives to motivate the workers to increase productivity
@@ST-tn9ow That sure would be cool. But I don't think their bosses see them as human. If they did, they wouldn't put them through these inhumane working conditions in the first place.
Me: complaining 7 hours of school and after school felt like I almost half dead Him: in his for 12 hours a day not even half dead and thinking it’s normal.
Right!? I thought the music was very wrong for this video. It was as if that would somehow divert our attention from the horrible information that were being disseminated
Lol as someone who came from a third world country, both the working and living conditions isn't that bad. Yes it's not great, but okay. Yeah, the job itself is repetitive and boring, but what do you expect from a typical factory job? This is a hell lot better than just staying on the streets and begging for stuff. At least working here you get paid a decent amount (in China) and you have a roof over your head, you get to bathe and eat enough.
Sunny Astillero Yeah I get what you're saying but this company and its owner are literally shiting in a golden toilet. Walking on marble heated floors & eating diamond steaks....Mmmm steak +_+ Sorry I got sidetracked. This dude could pay these people more than 2 dollars an hour. Like, way more. It's the rich getting richer. So spins the world in its downward spiral
"And unique characteristics" - these were the words in that video that chilled me most. Only someone coming from a place where that wasn't normal and indeed, expected, would say something like that. Another point of concern is the use of the word campus by some. It's traditionally used only for educational institutions. Factories have grounds, schools have campuses. This video doesn't quite smell right....
They do have the weekend that they have to make the most out of, it's a terrible place so I think the weekends teach them they need to do what the love the most in a small amount of time
Constructed Suicide prevention??? If I see that at a job, I don't want to work there. I'll be damned if I'm going to take a job that tells me I'll be stressed before start.
Ah, America. Land of convenience. That's why people get fatter and fatter and dumber and dumber. Too much convenience. Why work when there's food stamps.
Alpha the Omega to qualify for foodstamp you have to be basically homeless with no income or a female with kids. many people with jobs cannot afford food. so incentive is to be lazy. if i did not have a job and hoise i can get 500 a month. but i have job and a house so i get nothing. the system is reward the lazy and not help those who working hard but still in poverty
America does anti- suicide construction too. Why do you think cities have parks? Simply having amusement parks, art, and/or green grass lowers the suicide rates in cities and towns; that's why we have them.
Completely random Videos Just know this...one day you'll regret making that comment. This isn't funny. And it won't be funny when you get yours. What goes around comes around. So when it happens, just remember somebody told you so.
Most of these comments condemning the abuse, are being posted from an iPhone. We all are part of the problem. If we truly want to make a difference, stop changing your phones every year or two like fast fashion. Devices can easily run for 4-5 years.
"One small screw for iPhone...one giant screw for consumers" Don’t mind me just stopping by 2 years later... Update: I am here 3 years later on an iPhone 12
Apple's iPhone 7 costs just $220 to make. They sell them for $769 and more. American CEO make 350x more money than avg worker. Its not 100 times not even 200 times which is just crazy. hbr.org/resources/images/article_assets/2014/09/whataverageworkers.png US corporations are the most *GREEDY* of all.
Fremy Gonzales 5 yuan for veggie noodles. It's less than a fucking dollar. Cost of living is pretty low in China. 450$ isn't bad for a month in China. Its pretty fair wage for low level workers. 15$ a day!
prepzb 450$ a month is equal to 3000+ yuan. The prices of things are pretty low in China as mentioned in the video. You get 100 yuan a day. None of these people will spend that much. Also 450$ a month makes up to 5400$ a year which is actually really close to the gdp ppp of China. So, these people are getting the minimum wage according to the Chinese standards.. The people who work there are 18-30 years of age and most of them consider this as just a temporary job to make some money. If it was so bad they wouldn't even consider working here, now would they?? You are a fucking idiot for comparing 450$ according to American standards. When was the last time you ate vegetable noodles for less than a dollar?? A bottle of water costs $2.50 in some places in US. For that money you could eat lunch and dinner in China!!!
"Shit hole". This is actually rather tame compared to some other jobs in 3rd world countries. At least you get a roof that doesn't leak over your head, a shower, a proper bed, warm food to eat and a salary you could live off. I'm sure there are better places and this isn't surely the best bit i've heard worse...
He's a NYU grad which means he lived in NYC and he knows what a good place to work is. $450 per month is not bad for poor countries like China. I currently live in Russia and the average salary in my town is less than that.
Hack Attack 450$ a month, 30 days in a month, 450:30=15, 12 hours of work a day, 15:12=1,25. They make 1,25 an hour, appearantly that’s enough for a meal. (They supposedly also get free housing and food by the factory)
Sayaka Miyata They work 6 days a week which is 24 days a month. 450÷24=18.75 a day. They work 12 hr days but only paid for 10.5. 18.75÷10.5=1.78 an hour. Either way, it makes me appreciate my job a little more.
Your idea is kinda flawed. Do bear in mind that lower wages also mean lower prices for necessities. Stop using exchange rate to compare. Calculate the % of THEIR income needed for THEIR necessities. Then compare to the % of YOUR income needed for YOUR necessities.
Wil Mees Most women did not want to vote bc it came with the possibility of being drafted. Men ended up giving women the ability to vote and they wouldn't have to serve in the military.
It's all the fault of the western business conglomerates and tech/fashion ceos. They are the ones actively enabling this work and the conditions that accommodate it. China is wrong for allowing such conditions but the fault is mainly on the capitalists that protrude into such countries.
4:18 "Was she told when she was young that pain would lead to pleasure? Did she understand it when they said that a man must break his back to earn a day of leisure will she still believe it when he's dead?"
This is almost exactly like the early coal camps (I think that's what they were called) of West Virginia. The people were overworked, underpayed, had to live in company housing and had to spend their money on company stores. We learned about this in like 8th grade so I hope I get everything right, but conditions eventually changed when workers began to unionize. I think it is illegal to treat workers in the US like this now, which is probably why all this stuff is being made in other places. Anyways, I hope conditions improve for these people.
Not only did they have to use the company store sometimes they had to use company money as well. And it never equaled out to regular currency. So your over working them, paying them terribly, forcing them to spend their money with you, and cheating them for the little they do earn. It's just shameful.
450$ a month is quite a high salary on the global scale.It is easy to forget that not everyone in the world lives in developed nations of the West or Japan
Not in China.Average salary in china is around 8000$/y and that is over 10x as much as people earned there 20 years ago. In places like Ukraine average wage is around 200$
What?? Why are you thanking this guy for doing assembly? He just snatched up a factory job in order to give some insider revelations... The number of iPhones he has been a part of is nothing to what older workers do :| But even with insider revelation (not a very big one) you realise there's a dilemma between going inhumane and automating these factory processes (machine cost vs human labour cost) and offering boring jobs that rob people of their humanity. Yet, the company needs to make profits and their workers need to make a living at the end of the day. So ultimately, is it worth to automate these processes? If it isn't, then this video has not made a point. Then why was it made? If it is, then this video has misrepresented factory workers who need a living and is undermining their worth to future factories... All in all, was it beneficial that he posted this video? I can't be certain, but it does not strike me as a brilliant documentary.
Plus one more thing to add on is that despite the job being inhumane, with games offering a nice haven of mental stimulus, is it honestly a life not worth living?
I feel bad for them. Even the salary is shitty. Long hours of work, bad dorm conditions. 8 people in one room, it's like a prison. Only one day off. This is modern slavery, it reminds me my current work, wich is in a different domain but it's similar in term of pressure of work.
Thank you for your dedication Dejian. Workers of the world salute you! This is little more than slave labor. China is NOT socialist...no truly socialist system would ever stand for this.
any industrializing country would have to endure this at some point in their industrialization process. Take South Korea for example. During the 1960s and 70s, when South Korea was industrializing, Korean children toiled away in sweatshops for pay that couldn't even get a bowl of rotten rice. Workers who spoke out against mistreatment and formed labour unions were brutally arrested and executed. Just after the 1980s, South Korea was able to transform itself from a literal third-world shithole into a fairly developed country. China is undergoing the same process, industrializing and preparing for the transformation into a developed economy, more based on service than manufacturing.
8 8 because big business owners are practically psychopaths and dont give a shit about human life. So unless you become like them, you wont ever be a billionaire
thats why every tech company does this, its not specific to apple, they just want someone to point fingers at so they go to the highest valued company in the world
in a normal factory in the usa people get paid over $ 15 dollars an hour minimum wage is less then $10 dollars an hour so its a much better deal for factory workers in the usa
Sm00th TV I worked at a factory making 10$ an hour. I quit after 2 weeks.... it was absolutely terrible... this stuff happens in the USA too but here they hire illegals.... lots and lots of them.
They should quit their jobs then. If nobody volunteers to work at the factories, then the factory owners will have to improve work conditions. The only issue left would be the Chinese regime which still holds the old attitudes of the old communist leaderships that treat people like interchangeable economic units much like how they are seen by multinational corporations especially banks. The regime may send its army to force them or kill protesters like what happened at Tiananmen Square.
I’m watching this on 6s. Man, brought the story of my iPhone to life. Crazy to think this thing I’m typing on passed through the hands of so many hardworking Chinese in a factory. Thanks for the vid.
How can you call yourself a science guy and not know how everything we have is made? I'm not talking specifics, but you must know why every manufacturing company that doesn't have U.S. government contracts has their factories out of the states.... Tell me do you really think Japan is having a people shortage? Or do you think that more people that need work just means the cost of a person goes down? We could have had automation and robots doing all of these steps years ago. People are just cheaper.
with your comment i assume that if you would invent product , that is very expensive to produce in your own state , you would still do it and bring it out in the market over 1200$ , that minimize your win because no one want to buy that expensive phone ? or would you look for better producers , facilitys , which makes your product cheaper on the market so more people can buy it ? Get the f out if you have 0 knowledge and talk sht about masterminds. go to school and teach yourself some stuff
with your comment i assume the following : If you create a tech product that is awesome but has high costs to build in your state , you would still do that and minimalize your win and let your factory down after few bring outs ? " oh sorry , my name is chris edwards and I could only produce 250 phones this year because i had no money left , because people couldn't buy it . The reason is simple - it was to expensive " ..... idiot , blame yourself before you talk about other smarter people
Maybe even more tbh. One worker doesnt make the entire phone. He is in charge of a specific task. That makes them work even faster, cus if you do only one simple task all the time you become VERY good and fast at it
Lmao have you forgotten the price of the materials? Or wages for the designers and engineers? I’m not trying to say what they’re doing is right but you can’t expect them to pay them a lot..
demand drives supply. If enough people start demanding this, things will gradually change. We MUST break our reliance on China. They are waging economic warfare on most of the world. We need to remind them, we live in a society.
John Schaeffer Mike exactly how did trump start a trade war with China. I mean, unprovoked, I don’t wanna see some “proof” that is just 1 step in a tit for tat diplomatic exchange between the countries, where if you go back a week you could equally say “See! China started it!” For example, ask yourself: does china acknowledge copyrights on products? (have they ever?)
This is the problem with globalism. When workers tolerate working conditions like this, it brings down the standard of living for EVERYBODY all over the world in a global market.
dLimboStick we all need to eat if you start a revolution most likely you will die and that applies to all countries, you should be thankful that you have free speech and probably you were born in a rich one.
Along with freedom of speech, I live in a country where the people have the right to bear arms, so my government will find it very difficult or impossible to run over the people. In every country, the government governs by the consent of the people. Our founding fathers understood this and created a framework where the people would always have the power to enforce that consent more easily.
What working conditions are you against? $3,100/ month and housing? 10.5hr days? Sitting in an air conditioned, high tech building doing almost nothing? Oooooh what a struggle from 'MURICA I'm guessing?
Papá Olvidado And doy you also work 12 hrs a day? 😉
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Herbal High Yeah. I pay 140usd for a single bedroom apartment -excluding services. The minimum wage for, let's say, a media reporter would be 11.5usd/day. The absolute minimum for a no-skills job, would be 4usd/day; a 15cm Subway sandwich is 2usd.
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@MijnNaamIsCas | Buul Hehe. They wouldn't let you do that.
10.5 hours of work X 6 days a week X 4 weeks ( month) = 252 hours $450 a month (divided by)/ 252 = $1.78 Apple workers in China get paid $1.78 an hour...😳 😁
buy no xphones all the time, quit consumer society, value life and not material s$%t! WE ARE SLAVES NO MORE! AWAKEN WE GET! => Q (QAnon) #TheGreatAwakening #WalkAway
The sad thing is, that nobody is surprised or would stand up against these things. We are just used to it, that the price of an iphone is three times as high as the loans the workers recieve. Yes I get it, living costs are probably cheaper but that‘s such a weak argument, just give them good money and you won‘t need anti suicidal nets! But who am I complaining on my iPad?
This is a very hard work to find. It requires a lot of it exercises. Just because Chinese are many and want a clean uniform or gloves to make phones doesn’t mean they are slaves. They aren’t forced. The reward is over 3000$ per month. So tired of those people who can’t understand the truth. Just pointing at the view.
The music doesnt go well with the horror story he is telling...
Yes..like it is fun working in a Chinese factory
Your right
Horror? It’s called hard work... people are grateful to have those jobs and not waiting for handouts.
@@louiep432 you get high wage and free living quarter? No wonder there’s no homeless and drug addicts like in SF
How is it a horror story people go there willingly
If the suicide problem among your workers is so bad that you have to take extra precautions in order to prevent your workers from committing suicide, then you're doing something very wrong
It's quite normal in countries like china.
Foxconn employs about 1 million workers at any point in time; it's essentially a city of its own. Even with the best working conditions, there's going to be people who take their life for reasons unrelated to their work and out of their control.
In fact, if you research deeper (en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn):
ABC News[32] and The Economist[33] both have done some simple comparison- although the number of workplace suicides at Foxconn is large in absolute terms, the suicide rate is actually lower when compared to the overall suicide rate of China[34] or the United States.[35] According to a 2011 Centre for Disease Control and Prevention report, the country has a high suicide rate with approximately 22.23 deaths per 100,000 persons.[36] In 2010, the worst year for workplace suicides at Foxconn with a total of 14 deaths, its employee count was a reported 930,000 people.[37]
More people kill themsleves in South Korea, hell even North Koreans who defected consider norhtern life style less stresfull
Lightningbug Apple is always wrong
It sounds like hell on earth tbh...
Cheap labour = expensive products.
high profits = low salary.
Expensive product using cheap labour is true for Apple only. Look at so many China phone makers has premium materials and still the price is lower than iPhone
It's evil.
Cause the sneakers don't seem that much cheaper ..
= Trillion dollar industry
Absolutely no real need to treat workers like this, it all comes down to greed.
Yes. But I hope you realize this is communist China and not capitalist fat cats. There's always going to be a 1%. I'd rather be in the bottom 40-50% in the west than in the top 20-10% in China.
Have you live as 3rd world country normal citizens?
As much as I hate to admit, the thing in the video isn't that bad. Even for the fact it pays low, the manager keep yelling, there is no violence (maybe) and it is still enough to appease hunger and let people browse movies and play games (if what he said is true)
Turnover rate also high which mean people can choose whether to take the job or not.
There are so many peoples here so it's hard to regulate real standards of living.
@@bocchi2403 In fact I live in a '3rd world' country, still I say there is no need to treat people like that. It's just that that people are used to being treated poorly so they make excuses for it.
@@bocchi2403 exactly the brain washing they need for these workers, if only there are more of you so they can have an easier time exploiting people
Dang sounds like a prison camp imagine working here all your life must be so repetitive that you iust wanna die
You know the workplace is bad when they have installed hardware to prevent suicides
Yeah right in asian and my friends like they dont commit sucide cuz of grades
But cause the bullying is like pushing victim from something high or like abusing
But actually i got a D once and i never even thought to commit sucide
I dont know how n why u got those stereotypes
cafe co
You claim that kids in asia, like South Korean kids don't commit suicide? Um, when I last left Seoul, the Korean government expressed a great amount of concern on kids who get pressured by their parents. But from what I understand, its not just in Korea. Its all over asia. So either you're wrong, the Korean media is spreading fake news, or the government is lying. Before you answer, remember, you are your own self source of information.
Greatest American Hero the thing is im from asia and like most of my friends never even thing to commit sucide
Buttt i heard news about commit sucide cuz of bullies or abusive parents soo there ya goo
cafe co
Just to let you know, I'm Asian-American. Not only do visit my relatives in Thailand, but I do business in Korea, Philippines, China, and sometimes Japan. I spend an average of $45,000 dollars in travels, and I invest millions of dollars a year in my overseas partners. So I'm there in that part of the world more than you are. It is true that bulling is a contributing to suicide, but kids are killing themselves, just to escape their parents overwealming pressure to succeed, is also a factor. So instead of listening to your friends, why don't you fact check yourself by looking into asias' government death reports, and stop cherry picking on facts that you only want to believe in. Quit covering up the embarrassing issues in asia, and address them as real issues. So there you go.
I’m a Chinese,I heard many Chinese workers suicide after they worked in the iPhone factory
That awkward moment when you are watching this on an apple device
Ishita Gupta I'm watching on my brand new iPhone 7 plus red color
prestigious CROWN want a cookie?
Josh Hood I'd love a cookie since you're passing them out, idiot
Ishita Gupta android master race, reporting in.
Kyle Hurd How am I an idiot? Explain please.
A prison, factory, concentration camp, and college experience all in one!
👍
Surprised they don't charge the workers for the experience
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 lmao😭
@doittillursatisfied byanymeansnecessary probably make a superior product. Apple deliberately design their devices to fail within a couple of years and they go out of their way to make it impossible to repair. They pander to *woke* mellenials pretending to care about justice, fairness,equality and saving the planet whilst running a modern day slave trade and creating millions of tons of completely avoidable waste. Most evil, cynical and hypocritical company ever.
A concentration camp?
It's like a futuristic prison.
Slave workers
Where you go voluntarily ..
Naah it's futuristic slavery
Futuristic? You are living in that future right now old man.
what do you even put on your resume?
*Proficient at screwing* ?
Giggity
lol
bananian No, you clearly put on your resume iPhone factory worker.
*iPhone factory worker:*
*- proficient at screwing*
Its Typex no fun in that
They have anti suicide structures in building. Well, then everybody must feel great working there. And even higher authorities know that.
@@hny4706 As awful as it is, I was relieved to hear that the majority of people leave 1-2 weeks or a month in! It seems like they're treating it more like a temporary money raising time. It sounds better that way in my head
@@AvitalShtap tbh, it’s the Chinese government. There is no law saying someone can’t start a business in another country. And to do that, they need authorization of the said place’s government. China uses their people for economic gain. I can bet you that that campus funded by apple ( obviously) was built and encouraged by the Chinese government. And the reason they choose to work there is cuz the pay is slightly higher than the other jobs around.
@@destinyn4910
Welll, its still run by apple
@@Niribu it isn’t. It is “owned” by apple under federal law. But run by the divisional head. Don’t blame apple, blame the head of that jurisdiction and the local authority that let that happen.
@@destinyn4910 I’ll say apple has 30 percent of fault they could just produce their phones else where but then again it’s a business and there’s no blaming businesses for wanting to gain more money
Doing quick maths.. He was paid $1.65 an hour.
Incredible, he said they paid for food but only around 5 Yuan, did not mention is the dorms were included but probably. It’s a forced labor scenario aimed at student internship where they cannot graduate without credits towards working these factories. But the work force is getting older now that the baby boom years are over. But Wages are still 40 years behind United States
That's well above average in China. And because everyone's time is worth less there, they can buy things more cheaply.
DxsPro wait that's so little
He just screws one single thing... I think thats fair
That's about what I make as a Carpenter in the Union in San Jose. Well my wage technically says there 55 $48 an hour. But after California is done taxing my check I make a little more
It’s astonishing to see how many people think that only China’s factories are like this
Boy, you guys are brainwashed by Western media to think it's a Chinese factory? Oh boy. They don't even dare to tell you it's owned by Taiwanese boss colluding with American boss to extort Chinese labor to produce what you claimed to be the best IPhones? But yet they made you blame on China.! Oh gosh!
Agree but in west people have labour rights and there are lot of protest taken place in past which is why there rights are secured exapt china
@@hirenahir76200 African farmers in Europe?
And people in the west still think communism is good smh
@@mr.u8006 that's a choice, don't come to Europe then
The fact that there are suicide prevention nets speaks volumes
Miles Headley aye.
Miles Headley exactly
Cost of living is certainly not low in a major city like Shanghai. In fact, it's incredibly high. You could say they are getting "free" accommodation but you would definitely still be struggling in Shanghai with that kind of pay.
astrohawke In the US, the minimum wage is USD 6 an hour or USD 48 at 8 hours. Can this pay your house rent, travel expense, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, internet, use of gymnasium and then send some money to your family? You will end up heavy on debts.
silent watcher for an adult?
Holy shit, in the netherlands it's 9,99 €
Very different in Canada. I’ve been an assembly line worker at a metal processing plant for 35 years started right out of high school. Great pay, steady hours, benefits, vacation pay, rrsp’s and union pensions, weekends off, and yearly bonus. The assembly line helped me put 3 kids through university and gave me a happy and easy life. Wouldn’t change a thing!
Thank God, not everyone is that lucky
Please brief us more.We want to hear your story
@@dempseyroll96 yeah no problem, what would you like to know?
@@TheDingobat What was your job role?
Was it similar to the job the guy in the video did or involved much more ?
Yeah but there is obviously a huge difference between Canada and China
He's talking about people commiting suicide and people that are severely underpaid and lifetimes of boredom and tech insider uses the most cheery and upbeat music
just goes to show ya communism is shit
Lukas Mundo The factory is a product of capitalism
better unemotional than unprofessional
Capitalism mixed with communism, Beekeeper. So, both of you, Beekeeper and Lukas, It is not a problem of idealism, It is goverment letting your people be explored. ¶;D~
blackorbman, that's a fucking sad statement if i ever read one.
This honestly reminds me of call centers here in the USA. Underpaid, treated like garbage, and do the same exact thing every single day.
@Esther Jones
What type of call centers
Bruh, a call center is 50 times better then this garbage
Except they aren’t living in call center “dorms”. Is there any common sense left in this world?
Like retail..
Most of them are automated now.
apple doesn’t even pay them enough to be able to afford an iphone
dumbass, apple doesn't run the factories.
@@zoeyxxrose9586 so you think China is paying them?lolz
China sets the money they earn due the communist party
your name apple pays the company (I think it’s Foxconn) to make the phones
I phones all assembled in china
I love how "influencers" are running around shaming fast fashion, eating meat and straws while not daring to be caught dead without the latest IPhone
Regina George There’s some envy in your comment
gotta start somewhere hater
1m2a3t4t5 They’re just broke haters
True.
who the fuc eats straws?
You must hate Tech Rax
Yea that's sucks
Completely random Videos Why he helps keep the workers employed
LOL THATSSS SO TRUUUUEEEE HE JUST WASTES IT LIKE NOTHING.
Completely random Videos Yeah I feel sad about the fact that these people go through so much and guys like tech rax destroys an iphone in a second.
boi
Some of these things i have seen in American factories. I worked at a large-well known factory in the USA for a little over 10 years. Producing automotive parts for GM-Ford-Chrysler and some of the foreign manufacturers as well. First, this was a union shop. We have a union. I point that out because many people have this belief that unions protect workers and keep workplace rules in check. This is not always so. Our hours were equivalent if not worse than what this guy was saying. Your normal scheduled hours were 8 hour shift. But it was a regular-almost daily event that you would find out once you got there that you would have to do 12 hours. Then on some rare occasions at the end of that 12 hours you might be forced to stay 2-4 more hours. Break times were as followed. After your first 2 hours you got a 12 minute break. 2 hours later you got a 15 minute break. then every following 2 hours you got another 12 minute break. All of which time was deducted from your pay. It would take a good 5 minutes to walk to the break area or restrooms. My pay after 10 years? I was still only making $14 a hour. I was considered a longtime - legacy employee because most people they hired were smart enough to walk out after 2-4 weeks and i was one of the few to last that long. I ended up having to take some time off for sick leave due to a surgery, while off i found a different job and never went back. Didn't even call them to let them know. Best move i ever made.
Damn who would’ve thought that a surgery would be the best thing that ever happened to you lmao
This is worse than China.
Well you were pretty stupid to work there for a decade.
Yeah, most people think stuff like that only goes on in foreign counties. A lot of places in the US now are demanding slave like conditions to protect their profits. The American dream is dead. Nobody pays anymore, the hours aren’t fair, nor the benefits. While the suits make $350k a year, the workers make 30k
I'm beyond impressed you lasted 10 years when most didn't even last a few months!
And also saddened that your financial situation was that bad for 10 whole years that you couldn't leave sooner.
I can't believe they also dedicted the 5 minute break from your pay.
Hope you still have all your fingers.
The screw on my iPhone speaker came loose. You had one job!!!
Johnnie Walker 😂😂😂
Walter James you stole my comment hha
Johnnie Walker 😂🤣👏
-_- your a scub.
and 12 hrs to do it
Japan: trying to make robots
China: trying to make human robots
A scientist doesnt mass produce thats the work of chemical engineers, in the world not everyone does everything, every person has their job..... except me I just exist to sleep
Apple u dummy
Also Japan: suicide because they have the freedom to.
@@ChangedNames But in Japan, Robot's build another robots and mass produces. World's70% of robots are from Japan
@@aaronjiang8964 Funny Funny, suicide rate in asia is high because they have the only working educations system and mentality.
Life isnt about lovey dovey shit, up your game for humanity (Even though the other non chelant part of humanity are making fun of you and enjoying their mc donalds)
what if someone is watching this video on an iPhone with a screw put in by this guy
ZackZack2002 That's screwed up
Deadziez stop it
Furiounx F now it doesn't
and that's why I've never brought an iphone and they have the cheek to over charge the device not worth any amount of money .
ZackZack2002 "why are people".
Watching this from my iPhone 14 and I can say my speakers are still in place even after dropping it already, you guys keep on trucking.
YOU KNOW IT IS A JOB YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE WHEN THEY HAVE SUICIDE PREVENTION MEASURES IN PLACE
MNR 830 you're a good man. Keep doing what you're doing.
its obviously not for suicide prevention, it makes sense to prevent the apple product or parts leak out the factory, like what he said most people will leave after few months, so its not like there's a contract or anything ,if they dont like it anymore they leave
howard w Why the hell would you need netting under STAIRS. Since you can't smuggle a part by throwing it down the stairs, preventing suicide is the main objective here.
howard w it IS suicide prevention, there were multiple cases of workers jumping from the roofs few years back, just Google it, wages and working conditions was worse then, even more slave camp like.
Lmao 😂💀
Putting a screw in an iPhone? Screw that
because it's not funny
I have you seen the top comment? "So what do you put on your resume? Proficient at screwing" pretty damn funny!!!!!! Lol. :).
But the nearest cliff is 500 miles from there
That awkward moment when you realize humans have reached that level of slavery.
@aworld m I completely agree with you seeing this makes me wanan switch my iPhone for a Another product seeing how apple treats these people like Just a machine to make them phones
Richard R not apples fault it’s the strict government of china
@MachoDny other jobs will treat you the same or even worse thats why theyre there
Slavery? Its willing work...they can leave if they want
They don't gotta work there. 450 bucks is enough in China. It seems small in a first world country.
actually those are decent living conditions in my country we have seen much worse living conditions so this is an upgrade they can stay in a room for free so their rent and meal is sorted they can buy some vegetables with their money and eat it to add to their nutrition but overall not that bad
Yeah, I was about to say, they're not exactly living it up, but I've seen significantly worse.
What is your country?
@@sirpout1216 His name looks Indian
@@YSLRD
Her* name . She is a women and yes she is indian
Web developers in South Asia get paid half his wages and this guy is complaining. 😐
Jesus imagine spending your life screwing the same screw in 6 days a week 12 hours a day. The beautiful, intelligent and creative animal that is the human...reduced to turning a screw.
for unlivable wages at that
you nailed it
@@gijsbon8065 haha
We’re approaching levels of alienation that shouldn’t even be possible
I know a couple of people who lack the intellectual capacity to turn a screw over and over.
"Everyone has a very interesting life"
But like... how? It sounds like there's zero free time to actually live your life
i a china girl so mabe I can help share my idea to u. I think everyone have intresting life in china because life not easy. The man say peepo leave this job after 1 moth. So the peepo mabe did many different job before. Family back in village is intresting. Travel around china intresting.
FalconV7000 who ever made that quote don't know what "interesting" means?
Uhm, did you miss the part where they go out to town every Sunday?
Also, you do know China has an insane amount of public holidays, including a 3 week (!!) consecutive lunar spring holiday right?
I mean sure my country, the Netherlands, has like 28 or so days mandatory paid leave per year for employees BUT we don't have a 21 day period everyone is free!
Maybe the interesting part is when before they work in the factory. Just like people in jail. They share their interesting life before they end up there.
It all takes place in the dorms
The sad thing is half the people in the comments are saying “good thing I have an Android” even though their phones are produced in the exact same conditions
Sad that tjis is true
Well,samsung made their phones using machine so I don't get your point....also,xiaomi and huawei workers were treated better or not worse than this ...apple is a billion dollars company so why not atleast gives better salary and better treatment?
@@zackzaidin4110 just a heads up buddy, factories and suppliers is an independent corporation from Apple. Apple has a contracts to corporations like the one featured in this video, (Pegatron). Pegatron is not subsidiary of Apple or owned by apple thus pegatron jurisdiction of their labor issues is not on Apple.co jurisdiction. And also I'm curious that you can say other phone companies doesnt do labor malpractices like this one? How? Because you cant find any video or article about it? You cannot say something and treat it as fact even if there is no proof that it does happend.unless if you do work there, then you have a damn right to say that to our faces. Many Factories in china is well known for their sweatshops, labor issues and child labor.
@@zackzaidin4110 if samsung is made using machine only than tht means most of the people dnt get job there.apple atleast provide job to 7000 people
@@swmaizmt7361 youre ok to have employees on factory. just dont treat them like a robot and low salary
What he failed to mention is that Foxconn is a Taiwanese company, and they operate in China (Shenzhen) for the Chinese cheaper labor.
You know your company has problems when you have to take suicide prevention measures
powerplayer75 a lot of jobs have that, but this is a bit more direct most likely due to the amount of people working there, but stressful jobs generally will have people e.g. In Human Resources that can help workers through suicide prevention programs and try to help them gain control over their life
powerplayer75 Trust me, this is more forgiving environment. We learned about these kind of companies as a part of our social studies in college. You have no idea what kind of shit workers go through in some of the biggest companies like Nike (when they're still being produced in China), disney toy factory, H&M, and a lot more well known brands. some of them are locked up inside the factory and they get beat up when they're too sick to work. Some of them sleeps 6 hours or less. Google "swetshops". Majority, if not all are in China.
powerplayer75 Suicide prevention measures are everywhere,my school has them and no-one has commited suicide.They are just in case
MJ Y there was in fact some suicide cases, ( I don't remember how many but I think it was 5-8 in one year )
this workers suicide in the year when I phone 5 was built...! I remember because there was a big discussion about this...!
as you can see, these peoples working condition are very bad...!
They have 3 millions workers. Of course a none existant minority will commit suicide. Like in any society. Get over it snowflake
You know its gonna be a fun time when they have special nets for you to bounce on.
Echocookie DAMN
Echocookie this is best comment ever!
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"Everyone has a very interesting life" spends half a day putting a screw in a iPhone
Jaredgotbackpain excuse me, what about you? Do you have an interesting life? Who the f*** are u to judge people???! Must feel rly proud coz u insulted other people...
And the rest of the day sleeping because you are tired from putting screws :) dream life
Besides the cripplingly depressing fact that that is a full time job
Love to see US people take 450 USD a month and work 12 hours a day... US want their manufacturing back.. yiippe
@nevem sp Don't feed him, he's gonna grow!
I'm not ever going to complain about my job ever again.
okay, I'm not going to complain about my job anymore!!!
B-Man 123 i am 15 year Old switzerlands and i learn Truck Driver after The School. NOW i am in The 9th Claas and in 2-3 months, i come Out of School.
Magermilchquark Rahmschnitzel - very good for you...you're on the road to success in life!!
B-Man 123 450$ doesn't mean its not fair salary no thats not the case :) Hehehehe
SleepingWitheSirens - I have no idea what you're talking about?
SleepingWitheSirens lol that's only 5000 a month
damn at least give them a free iPhone lol
That would go against the thing they are trying to achieve. They're trying to have the workers work as much as possible and give them as little as possible so they can produce products at the lowest price possible.
No dont have to 😀
If they do, there will be no iphones for people around the world :D
@@Galaxia53 they can atleast give them old refurbished/used models that nobody buys from their inventory, doesn't has to be a new one.And that too as a reward for their dedication. I think apart from money there should also be other incentives to motivate the workers to increase productivity
@@ST-tn9ow That sure would be cool. But I don't think their bosses see them as human. If they did, they wouldn't put them through these inhumane working conditions in the first place.
the dude who was talking seemed so nice
MaxCookie good kid
Annoying.
Me: complaining 7 hours of school and after school felt like I almost half dead
Him: in his for 12 hours a day not even half dead and thinking it’s normal.
No amount positive vibey stock music score is going to change sad expressions we all wore on our faces throughout the video.
Right!? I thought the music was very wrong for this video. It was as if that would somehow divert our attention from the horrible information that were being disseminated
What’s it like working there
This is hell. The working conditions are bad but the living conditions is what makes this a horror.
These are normal living conditions. Welcome to china & Taiwan manufacturers 😃
Lol as someone who came from a third world country, both the working and living conditions isn't that bad. Yes it's not great, but okay.
Yeah, the job itself is repetitive and boring, but what do you expect from a typical factory job?
This is a hell lot better than just staying on the streets and begging for stuff. At least working here you get paid a decent amount (in China) and you have a roof over your head, you get to bathe and eat enough.
Sunny Astillero
Yeah I get what you're saying but this company and its owner are literally shiting in a golden toilet. Walking on marble heated floors & eating diamond steaks....Mmmm steak +_+
Sorry I got sidetracked.
This dude could pay these people more than 2 dollars an hour. Like, way more. It's the rich getting richer.
So spins the world in its downward spiral
Masochistic Suicidie diamond steaks? Sounds a bit too well done.
Peter Todd
:D this is true. I hadn't thought of that. I do like mine rare ;)
“Everybody has a very interesting life”.....
"And unique characteristics" - these were the words in that video that chilled me most. Only someone coming from a place where that wasn't normal and indeed, expected, would say something like that.
Another point of concern is the use of the word campus by some. It's traditionally used only for educational institutions. Factories have grounds, schools have campuses.
This video doesn't quite smell right....
I laughed too
They do have the weekend that they have to make the most out of, it's a terrible place so I think the weekends teach them they need to do what the love the most in a small amount of time
That’s the Chinese way of saying people have shit lives
@@snuggles03 I love that your name is snuggles03 but you have the ww1 German black cross as your profile pic
Thanks for building my iPhone bro🙏🏽💯
Constructed Suicide prevention??? If I see that at a job, I don't want to work there. I'll be damned if I'm going to take a job that tells me I'll be stressed before start.
Jimmie Waverly Jr Do you think that was their choice? Is that or die from hunger in the streets...
That's why you guys can't make shit, you ask too much and when it gets tough you will just quit.
Ah, America. Land of convenience. That's why people get fatter and fatter and dumber and dumber. Too much convenience. Why work when there's food stamps.
Alpha the Omega to qualify for foodstamp you have to be basically homeless with no income or a female with kids. many people with jobs cannot afford food. so incentive is to be lazy. if i did not have a job and hoise i can get 500 a month. but i have job and a house so i get nothing. the system is reward the lazy and not help those who working hard but still in poverty
America does anti- suicide construction too. Why do you think cities have parks? Simply having amusement parks, art, and/or green grass lowers the suicide rates in cities and towns; that's why we have them.
"What do you do after assembling phone parts for 10,5 hours?" "Watch videos on my own phone"
@@void4650 no they dont
Watching this on my iPhone and I feel not good right now.
At least you dont feel bad 😁
Skimtar hehehe
Watching this on my iPhone and even the screw in my iPhone would want to jump out and commit suicide
Shame on you...
Yusuf Onder you know most big companies have these right? Probably everything you own.
Although I m so late on this, since Yt recommended this now.
But, why is there such happy-going music in bg when its such a serious video.
The iPhone: Stopping people from committing suicide since 2007
AF25 lol
AF25 Samsung making people die by explosives
AF25 apple: We wanted to build something better, inovating so we hired 70,000asians to build our phones using cutting edge fingers.
prestigious CROWN no one died from using faulty samsung phones
Apple: designed in America.... built by under paid asians who hate their job.... 😒
You did a good job with that screw, my speaker still hasn't come out
hahahaha
lmfao
Nice new like record for me
Completely random Videos Just know this...one day you'll regret making that comment. This isn't funny. And it won't be funny when you get yours. What goes around comes around. So when it happens, just remember somebody told you so.
Kyle Reese I don't know what you are talking about this comment wasn't offensive in any way in fact I complemented him for doing a good job
Designed by Apple in California, *manufactured in China*
LostandAlive The Design is just made by Californian Engineers and Chinese workers will have to just copy the design
LostandAlive--I thought they were in Seattle.
SFV Native .. They started in California and then moved to Washington
LostandAlive designed by foxcon made by foxcon just apple put crappy logo
Xd
Most of these comments condemning the abuse, are being posted from an iPhone. We all are part of the problem.
If we truly want to make a difference, stop changing your phones every year or two like fast fashion. Devices can easily run for 4-5 years.
"One small screw for iPhone...one giant screw for consumers"
Don’t mind me just stopping by 2 years later...
Update: I am here 3 years later on an iPhone 12
Little do you know, your comment has 217 likes
ZiloStorm thanks for the heads up....lol!
Homer Balderas 303 now
Disease Boy keep them coming peeps!! 1k? 2k? It's all up to 👇🏽
Apple's iPhone 7 costs just $220 to make. They sell them for $769 and more.
American CEO make 350x more money than avg worker. Its not 100 times not even 200 times which is just crazy.
hbr.org/resources/images/article_assets/2014/09/whataverageworkers.png
US corporations are the most *GREEDY* of all.
450 isnt bad..until he said a month... GG
Fremy Gonzales 5 yuan for veggie noodles. It's less than a fucking dollar. Cost of living is pretty low in China. 450$ isn't bad for a month in China. Its pretty fair wage for low level workers. 15$ a day!
In Romania i earn 250$ working in factory 8 hours/5 days a week.
lol that's fkd
prepzb 450$ a month is equal to 3000+ yuan. The prices of things are pretty low in China as mentioned in the video. You get 100 yuan a day. None of these people will spend that much.
Also 450$ a month makes up to 5400$ a year which is actually really close to the gdp ppp of China. So, these people are getting the minimum wage according to the Chinese standards.. The people who work there are 18-30 years of age and most of them consider this as just a temporary job to make some money. If it was so bad they wouldn't even consider working here, now would they??
You are a fucking idiot for comparing 450$ according to American standards. When was the last time you ate vegetable noodles for less than a dollar?? A bottle of water costs $2.50 in some places in US. For that money you could eat lunch and dinner in China!!!
I'm going to China with like 20k and I'm gonna be rich as fuck
This guy is talking like if it was a good place to work .... it sounds depressing and a bad place to be.
edgard ortega because he is just an agent bruh, its not like he is staying there forever
Yes I am aware of that but I find it funny how someone can do that knowing it's a shit hole
"Shit hole". This is actually rather tame compared to some other jobs in 3rd world countries. At least you get a roof that doesn't leak over your head, a shower, a proper bed, warm food to eat and a salary you could live off.
I'm sure there are better places and this isn't surely the best bit i've heard worse...
He's a NYU grad which means he lived in NYC and he knows what a good place to work is.
$450 per month is not bad for poor countries like China.
I currently live in Russia and the average salary in my town is less than that.
It’s the background music
Owners: "we gotta do something to make this a better working environment." "Good idea let's install nets to prevent suicides"
12 hours a day 6 days a week and only get paid for 10.5 hours a day and get $450 a month. That comes out to only $1.78 AN HOUR!!!!!!!!
Hack Attack 450$ a month, 30 days in a month, 450:30=15, 12 hours of work a day, 15:12=1,25.
They make 1,25 an hour, appearantly that’s enough for a meal.
(They supposedly also get free housing and food by the factory)
Sayaka Miyata They work 6 days a week which is 24 days a month. 450÷24=18.75 a day. They work 12 hr days but only paid for 10.5. 18.75÷10.5=1.78 an hour. Either way, it makes me appreciate my job a little more.
Hack Attack oh yeah, i didn’t consider that.
In Mexico minimum wage (max 12 hrs) a day is $4.7, many people who do hard work, like harvesting or cleaning train stations have that income :(
Your idea is kinda flawed.
Do bear in mind that lower wages also mean lower prices for necessities.
Stop using exchange rate to compare.
Calculate the % of THEIR income needed for THEIR necessities.
Then compare to the % of YOUR income needed for YOUR necessities.
I got an iPhone ad before watching this lol
**laughs in gucci**
Worst decision
Thats because there was only 500 pieces left to go home....
I Got A Samsung ad before the video lmao
If your iPhone made in china it have a spy chip inside
Working conditions were the same in western countries, just 100 years ago.
5astelija agreed ,not even minutes have reduced in 100 years
5astelija yes, then they invented Robots
Maverick Majorani Yes. And women and POC also couldn't vote. And healthcare was almost non-existent.
Wil Mees Most women did not want to vote bc it came with the possibility of being drafted. Men ended up giving women the ability to vote and they wouldn't have to serve in the military.
We all had go through them, but this work gives them freedom
Imagine claiming to be a country for the workers and having your workers live in a literal dystopia
It's all the fault of the western business conglomerates and tech/fashion ceos. They are the ones actively enabling this work and the conditions that accommodate it. China is wrong for allowing such conditions but the fault is mainly on the capitalists that protrude into such countries.
4:18 "Was she told when she was young that pain would lead to pleasure? Did she understand it when they said that a man must break his back to earn a day of leisure will she still believe it when he's dead?"
Ah giiiiiiirl, sssssh
Who's she? Who are you referring to??? 0:16 it clearly says "he spent..." That's a man lol.
If I misunderstood your quote...please tell me where that's from lol
@@TheRealestIdealist LOOK UP THE SONG GIRL FROM THE BEATLES!
@Tt Miller speak for yourself man, your english is no better than OP
This is almost exactly like the early coal camps (I think that's what they were called) of West Virginia. The people were overworked, underpayed, had to live in company housing and had to spend their money on company stores. We learned about this in like 8th grade so I hope I get everything right, but conditions eventually changed when workers began to unionize. I think it is illegal to treat workers in the US like this now, which is probably why all this stuff is being made in other places. Anyways, I hope conditions improve for these people.
Vegan Virgo true
True Statement
I like girls from Virginia so much
Do you know how illegal immigrants live in your own country? Do you know why do they immigrate? For the same reason!!!
Not only did they have to use the company store sometimes they had to use company money as well. And it never equaled out to regular currency. So your over working them, paying them terribly, forcing them to spend their money with you, and cheating them for the little they do earn. It's just shameful.
$450 a MONTH? Damn no wonder Apple is getting rich.
Good to hear that. I hope they will fix the low salary problems in Asia. Asians are the most hardest working people i've ever met.
it will never be fixed
I also work in factory, $170+ per month, work 6 days every week for 10 hours per day.
450$ a month is quite a high salary on the global scale.It is easy to forget that not everyone in the world lives in developed nations of the
West or Japan
Not in China.Average salary in china is around 8000$/y and that is over 10x as much as people earned there 20 years ago.
In places like Ukraine average wage is around 200$
What most of the people here don't know is it's actually a good job with a decent pay.
The iPhone is only as good as the sum of all its parts. Thank you for putting the screw in correctly Sir!
one voice So the parts subtract 18 good points each?
Samsung and stuff
What?? Why are you thanking this guy for doing assembly? He just snatched up a factory job in order to give some insider revelations... The number of iPhones he has been a part of is nothing to what older workers do :|
But even with insider revelation (not a very big one) you realise there's a dilemma between going inhumane and automating these factory processes (machine cost vs human labour cost) and offering boring jobs that rob people of their humanity. Yet, the company needs to make profits and their workers need to make a living at the end of the day. So ultimately, is it worth to automate these processes? If it isn't, then this video has not made a point. Then why was it made?
If it is, then this video has misrepresented factory workers who need a living and is undermining their worth to future factories...
All in all, was it beneficial that he posted this video? I can't be certain, but it does not strike me as a brilliant documentary.
Plus one more thing to add on is that despite the job being inhumane, with games offering a nice haven of mental stimulus, is it honestly a life not worth living?
I feel bad for them. Even the salary is shitty. Long hours of work, bad dorm conditions. 8 people in one room, it's like a prison. Only one day off. This is modern slavery, it reminds me my current work, wich is in a different domain but it's similar in term of pressure of work.
Mohamed ali Rida Some chinese colleges students dorms look like that as well
Not slavery if they accepted the contract and decided to work there...
Mohamed ali Rida but we still buy everything they manufacture lmfao
salary is good for a chineese factory, even more good since they dont need special skils for the job...
The pay is not THAT bad imo as the cost of living is cheap and they get free accommodation. The hours etc they work is shit though
And then they charge us $1,000 for a phone they paid workers about $5 USD to manufacture smh
Yeah, that's the tragedy here. Not the slavery, the fact that you are stupid enough to buy the phone.
Nobody From Nowhere who said I buy the new iPhone hahahahaha, I bought a 5s for $30
It’s called capitalism. The Chinese should protest and demand minimum wage laws like in the west.
Penny P is a
I think for one iPhone, about 20$ stays in China. So a single worker probably won't get 5$ for that phone.
Thank you for your dedication Dejian. Workers of the world salute you! This is little more than slave labor. China is NOT socialist...no truly socialist system would ever stand for this.
any industrializing country would have to endure this at some point in their industrialization process.
Take South Korea for example. During the 1960s and 70s, when South Korea was industrializing, Korean children toiled away in sweatshops for pay that couldn't even get a bowl of rotten rice. Workers who spoke out against mistreatment and formed labour unions were brutally arrested and executed. Just after the 1980s, South Korea was able to transform itself from a literal third-world shithole into a fairly developed country. China is undergoing the same process, industrializing and preparing for the transformation into a developed economy, more based on service than manufacturing.
This sounds depressing i feel bad for them
Ceeri they're used to it
Ceeri It's kinda funny.
我最亲爱的爹. What?
我最亲爱的爹 how is he gonna stay poor for feeling bad????
8 8 because big business owners are practically psychopaths and dont give a shit about human life. So unless you become like them, you wont ever be a billionaire
"That's just slavery with extra steps!"
Cytrillex BagelsMan that's slavery with benefits dude.
Cytrillex BagelsMan their choosing to do it it's not slavery
Cytrillex BagelsMan I understood that reference!
+Cytrillex BagelsMan Wow looks like someone is gonna get laid in college
No one is forcing them to do this
As much this is Apple's fault for exposing cheap labor, it's our fault as well for buying their products.
Brian Griffin The problem is that buying American made products would cost you a fortune.
Tonybassist123 the problem is our poorly negotiated trade agreements. Also apple should be fined for having companies over seas.
IceColdMeat It's the greed
Brian Griffin true dat
Nah it's your fault for following the hype for shit Apple products.
I think everyone is missing the point….. my IPhone would be unaffordable if it was manufactured in a respectable country.
thats why every tech company does this, its not specific to apple, they just want someone to point fingers at so they go to the highest valued company in the world
Workers either watch movies or play video games,
No Drinking or smoking in dorms,
Shared restroom,
boring,
... so basically freshman year college
But for as long as possible
Freshman? They smoke weed in dormitory
So what happen during sophomore year in college?
@@jakedu1875 Yes but they're not SUPPOSED TO ;-)
They should interview a few Amazon employees next.
(Raises hand)
This is what happens under capitalism. Any big corporations would all be the same.
@@zachphelps3427 And China is a communism country...
@@signoperucom clearly it's capitalist. This facility is being run for profit.
@@J7924-j7i china is capitalist. They have billionaires in the country instead of fair distribution of wealth
Modern slavery.
They can quit if they want
V xpc V If they had the option to quit they wouldn't be there in the first place.
先輩XFreak true but people have to work there just because they need to make a living for themselves.
Absolutely
This isn’t slavery. They are getting paid and can leave at anytime
Thank you all Chinese factory workers! I appreciate you ❤️
so he basically described a normal factory... except for the net thing
in a normal factory in the usa people get paid over $ 15 dollars an hour minimum wage is less then $10 dollars an hour so its a much better deal for factory workers in the usa
Sm00th TV I worked at a factory making 10$ an hour. I quit after 2 weeks.... it was absolutely terrible... this stuff happens in the USA too but here they hire illegals.... lots and lots of them.
blake whitlow you do understand if apple started paying workers USA wages iphones would cost upwards of 2 or 3 grand?, stop being ignorant.
Lagboy_ So you care more about the price of a machine than another humans working conditions. nice.
Paul He is pointing out the fact that the iPhone would be far more expensive if workers were payed more, that's it.
:(
I feel bad for the Chinese people who work at factories
Ariana Grande thank you Ariana for shedding light on the plight of these workers and their almost slave like conditions!
They should quit their jobs then. If nobody volunteers to work at the factories, then the factory owners will have to improve work conditions.
The only issue left would be the Chinese regime which still holds the old attitudes of the old communist leaderships that treat people like interchangeable economic units much like how they are seen by multinational corporations especially banks. The regime may send its army to force them or kill protesters like what happened at Tiananmen Square.
wa gu shes not the real ariana grande LMAOOO
Do something about it
Anilesh Mohari what can she/he do??
I’m watching this on 6s. Man, brought the story of my iPhone to life. Crazy to think this thing I’m typing on passed through the hands of so many hardworking Chinese in a factory. Thanks for the vid.
ScienceGuy this woke me up about apple
The Vegan Uprise Samsung is the same
Hardworking? More like abused workers.
How can you call yourself a science guy and not know how everything we have is made? I'm not talking specifics, but you must know why every manufacturing company that doesn't have U.S. government contracts has their factories out of the states.... Tell me do you really think Japan is having a people shortage? Or do you think that more people that need work just means the cost of a person goes down? We could have had automation and robots doing all of these steps years ago. People are just cheaper.
I'm never complaining about my job again.
Ikr. What if I want to commit suicide at my job?
@@Mega-P71 Please talk to someone you trust or call your local suicide hotline when you're having these thoughts. You are important.
@@asbaran It's not that deep but thanks
less than $2 an hour
"Steve Jobs is a hero"
ItsMeDylan and? The factory still existing before Steve death
1.4285714286 per hour
with your comment i assume that if you would invent product , that is very expensive to produce in your own state , you would still do it and bring it out in the market over 1200$ , that minimize your win because no one want to buy that expensive phone ? or would you look for better producers , facilitys , which makes your product cheaper on the market so more people can buy it ? Get the f out if you have 0 knowledge and talk sht about masterminds. go to school and teach yourself some stuff
with your comment i assume the following : If you create a tech product that is awesome but has high costs to build in your state , you would still do that and minimalize your win and let your factory down after few bring outs ? " oh sorry , my name is chris edwards and I could only produce 250 phones this year because i had no money left , because people couldn't buy it . The reason is simple - it was to expensive " ..... idiot , blame yourself before you talk about other smarter people
Blake Money not all money on earth revolves around american money your "2 american dollars" in chona can actually go suprisongly far
One iPhone alone sold by apple is enough to pay for two workers salary for a month.
Oof
Also, one person may make 14 phones at day😀 clever.
Not 14...probably 30 lol
Maybe even more tbh. One worker doesnt make the entire phone. He is in charge of a specific task. That makes them work even faster, cus if you do only one simple task all the time you become VERY good and fast at it
Lmao have you forgotten the price of the materials? Or wages for the designers and engineers? I’m not trying to say what they’re doing is right but you can’t expect them to pay them a lot..
5 workers now 😂
No offense but that seems awful, low pay, bad quality of life, repetitive and boring job
well someone has to make the product
Well what do you expect from a factory?
Just makes robots
@@bluepterosaur they live with this income.. a robot can make that income go!
it is awful
Looks better than every factory I’ve seen in India
Thank you for this.
I’m done with “Made in China”.
Yeah good luck . And better stop TV aswell
I understand what you're saying. But the sad part is everything made in America cost twice as much and breaks twice as fast
Then enjoy paying $2,000+ for a phone, we’ll see if you’re done with Made in China then 😂 Unless of course, automation kicks in in the US.
demand drives supply. If enough people start demanding this, things will gradually change. We MUST break our reliance on China. They are waging economic warfare on most of the world. We need to remind them, we live in a society.
John Schaeffer Mike exactly how did trump start a trade war with China. I mean, unprovoked, I don’t wanna see some “proof” that is just 1 step in a tit for tat diplomatic exchange between the countries, where if you go back a week you could equally say “See! China started it!” For example, ask yourself: does china acknowledge copyrights on products? (have they ever?)
This is the problem with globalism. When workers tolerate working conditions like this, it brings down the standard of living for EVERYBODY all over the world in a global market.
dLimboStick we all need to eat if you start a revolution most likely you will die and that applies to all countries, you should be thankful that you have free speech and probably you were born in a rich one.
Along with freedom of speech, I live in a country where the people have the right to bear arms, so my government will find it very difficult or impossible to run over the people. In every country, the government governs by the consent of the people. Our founding fathers understood this and created a framework where the people would always have the power to enforce that consent more easily.
Luis Fernando what revolution ever worked without death?
What working conditions are you against? $3,100/ month and housing? 10.5hr days? Sitting in an air conditioned, high tech building doing almost nothing?
Oooooh what a struggle
from 'MURICA I'm guessing?
S S how is $3,100/ month plus housing for 10.5hr days in a fancy building 'cheap labour'?
That must be some good facial recognition software
Karl Hungus i see what you did there...
lmao I was thinking the same thing
LMAO
Damn that's messed up
hell nah hahahahahaha!!!!
i get it!
without these workers, I am pretty sure you won't be sitting in NYU chillin your ass
So thats why my teammates in League of Legends got so frustrated
their part time job is fill LOL server
UNDERRATED
League of legends in 2018?
DroneVlucht lul
I live in Mexico. A full time job at an Office Depot, repairing computers, pays less than 400 per month. Believe me.
Papá Olvidado And doy you also work 12 hrs a day? 😉
Herbal High Yeah. I pay 140usd for a single bedroom apartment -excluding services. The minimum wage for, let's say, a media reporter would be 11.5usd/day. The absolute minimum for a no-skills job, would be 4usd/day; a 15cm Subway sandwich is 2usd.
@MijnNaamIsCas | Buul Hehe. They wouldn't let you do that.
Papá Olvidado In The Netherlands you pay atleast double of that monthly rent. lol. (single room)
@MijnNaamIsCas | Buul I ive in portland oregon (us) and my shitty apartment is 950$ a month. what are the wages like in the netherlands?
10.5 hours of work X 6 days a week X 4 weeks ( month) = 252 hours
$450 a month (divided by)/ 252 = $1.78
Apple workers in China get paid $1.78 an hour...😳 😁
Shahd A there rich😂
Shahd A thats not too bad honestly
MacDonalds pays $8 per hour
you serious? in norway we get up to $30 per hour of work after graduation.
Daniel Andre Mortensen nice, but how high are your taxes?
Man there has never been an instance of a more misplaced background music ever
I feel bad I'm happy I found this out
Kansas City Blessed Kid same
Kansas City Blessed Kid so now you know,iPhones suck,even for the people who make them.
Love your comment! Oxymoron!
Kansas City Blessed Kid 。
buy no xphones all the time, quit consumer society, value life and not material s$%t!
WE ARE SLAVES NO MORE!
AWAKEN WE GET!
=> Q (QAnon)
#TheGreatAwakening
#WalkAway
Zeng: i put a single screw for 12 hrs in an iphone
JerryrigTeardown: i unscrew all of them
This is not living damn, no wonder they had to take suicide preventions.
*precautions.
That really would be the worst job, if they provided suicide presentations. :)
+Johnny that's very funny
Suicide Sheep they have 1million workers in this type of factory. With very high suicidal rate
Why was I born an attractive 6ft white American man?
The sad thing is, that nobody is surprised or would stand up against these things. We are just used to it, that the price of an iphone is three times as high as the loans the workers recieve. Yes I get it, living costs are probably cheaper but that‘s such a weak argument, just give them good money and you won‘t need anti suicidal nets! But who am I complaining on my iPad?
All that just so that some TH-camr destroy it in another tech destruction video.
At least they paid for it 😅
MOJYKZ they get paid 3,000 ¥ or 450$ a month, that’s not even worth it! But then again they’re just trying to earn yen in any way
Dmuffin Stuffin Yen is Japanese currency, not Chinese. Yuan is Chinese currency.
Peace out
Yeah I hate those videos they are incredibly wastefull
iT's nOt sLaVErY bEcaUsE tHeY cOnSEnT.
normal person: it's slavery
m. And Islam is a religion of peace 👌🏻
@@V0YAG3R hahaha LOL
no its not they get paid slavery is forced they can quit
They should continue to work whatever job they want to
And it's communism
Modern day slavery
you said it!
knownhuman1 you can always just make good decisions in your life so you can do other things. Its your choice, not evil capitalism's.
It's not just apple, it's every Chinese company ever
slavery is forcing someone to do something without consent. This is not forcing, it's their own choices.
This is a very hard work to find. It requires a lot of it exercises. Just because Chinese are many and want a clean uniform or gloves to make phones doesn’t mean they are slaves. They aren’t forced. The reward is over 3000$ per month. So tired of those people who can’t understand the truth. Just pointing at the view.
Why are workers still putting screws in anyway? Why don't they have machines doing all these repetitive tasks?