It's not as much the fact that they are overestimating themselves as that they don't consider who is the server in their mind! I was still waiting for some of them to give - "depends on who is serving/how well he is serving" answer to the - "what do you think are your chances to return his serve"...none of them had smarts to give that kind of answers, they are just dumb...at least couple of them were humble enough to igve indifferent answer and just test themselves instead...
Tennis is very skillful sports. The first boy returned successfully is the one did it right: chose right position, step in, split and cut the line. You can see he wasn’t the biggest or fastest, but he definitely knew how to do it.
Gotta stand way behind the baseline and split step to have a chance. It's even more unfair because it seems like he's allowed to miss until he gets them in, which means he's going for the lines. Even pros would have trouble returning those unless they get a read on him.
It also looks like the way they've positioned the camera behind the players is keeping them from coming back behind the baseline as far as they should. Seems like a fun challenge though!
They all so delusional, except that ine lady who said 10% chance. Why does everyone think they have a good return game? Theyre flat footed and not split stepping
Trey, only way to return those is to split step. Start practicing that and you'll be surprised what balls you can get to. Good content, keep it up guys!
Nah, if the serve is placed well enough and has a certain speed the split step doesn't change anything. You just have to go for the side, you think he will serve.
@@Dixel56 split step makes you a step faster. Of course, it won't return every ball for you, but getting the first step on a 115mph÷ serve is your only chance. Obviously doesn't work every time; even the pros get aced. Doesn't change the fundamentals, and I assure you split stepping is 100% correct.
The issue is a stagnant split isn’t really going to help you in this situation; even more so if you aren’t used to returning serves of this speed. You need to get some sort of forward momentum before the split or ideally use a flow step. Most people don’t use the split step correctly it’s doing nothing for you to just jump in the air and come down on both feet at the same time, it has to be preformed at the right time so that you can bring the opposite foot down first to then flow in the correct direction. Not saying this is easy but an incorrect split is doing nothing for your game.
This serve looks tough to read which is a big advantage. Love the placement and disguise which made it impossible for most of these players to even get close to.
return positioning is a huge factor in not being able to get returns back. every player is too far from the alley, on both sides of the court. the outside foot should always be right around the doubles line
This was great!! You should do a video where you compare getting a private lesson at a country club vs a public tennis center vs a guy off craigslist! Having been a tennis coach and taught lessons through all three of these I think it could be a really cool video
Hey! That’s austin high school if I’m not mistaken. I’ll be practicing there tomorrow. Hopefully y’all do something that could fill my pocket book tomorrow.
Lmao I was dying when every time Cleeve served out wide nobody made adjustments and just stayed away from the alley. Then they would stand really close in the court and not split step and take the ball early 😭
Well they are all standing too close to the baseline. With a serve like that, anyone less than 4.0 is going to have a hard time. Stand way back! And guess at a direction
I feel like it should have been a forced body serve. If he's a D1 player, and he hits the line, that'll ace tour level returners... so that's not even a real challenge.
can anyone tell me why these look harder to return than top 10 serves? It seems to me, part of it is that the amateurs don't get close most of the time, so they look like better serves. But part of it is that he doesn't seem to serve any faults, so you don't get a look at a second serve (I'm assuming if he missed, they got a second serve, unless they just had to face another first serve??). As far as I can tell, he is modifying his serve slightly to target the amateurs, playing within himself slightly so he just targets the T or the wide serve with slightly reduced speed, but greater accuracy, knowing that amateurs aren't athletic enough to get near it. Is this plausible?
Think about it, from a purely physical stand point Cleve has nothing on Trey and is shorter than Jake too. I’d bet a large sum that Trey has a more explosive leg drive than Cleve. Of course both Trey and Jake are at the opposite end of the service technique spectrum from Cleve. Remember with modern equipment, in todays tennis a athletic 6’4” guy with a 120 mph serve is not nearly as special as it once was. If Trey could reach 90% of the technical correctness of Cleves serve his physical advantages should still allow him to reach that 120mph level on his best serves. Of course for both Trey and Jake and the majority of players who take up tennis in adulthood learning and implementing technically proper strokes is the biggest roadblock that keeps them from getting anywhere near their full potential as tennis players. They rarely lack enough effort, enthusiasm or time commitment. The problem is they channel these great qualities into just playing tennis. Very little of these great qualities go into learning to play tennis properly.
You guys allowed some serves that were clearly out. Not that it would make much of a difference, but I think it's only fair to count as good the serves that actually go IN.
@@meghanayak217 simply hand the player a traditional racket and then see how they play. Very easy to see the changes. Same with MLB, hand a player a composite bat and watch how they hit 550-600 foot HR’s, I’ve watched YT channels where amateurs can hit 450 foot HR’s with ease. It’s all in the materials. When you change the equipment so drastically you alter the game and it’s core requirements and as such you dilute the statistics. I know I’m 100% right !!!
People really overestimating their chances to return his serve
It's not as much the fact that they are overestimating themselves as that they don't consider who is the server in their mind! I was still waiting for some of them to give - "depends on who is serving/how well he is serving" answer to the - "what do you think are your chances to return his serve"...none of them had smarts to give that kind of answers, they are just dumb...at least couple of them were humble enough to igve indifferent answer and just test themselves instead...
Technically they all have a 50/50 chance. They either return it or they don't 😂
@@illu45 Just like it's 50/50 you get struck by lightning every time you walk outside. Either you get struck or you don't.
@@illu45that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, guess everything is 50 50 then😂
Not that any of them stood a reasonable chance but some of those serves were definitely out 👀
Tennis is very skillful sports. The first boy returned successfully is the one did it right: chose right position, step in, split and cut the line. You can see he wasn’t the biggest or fastest, but he definitely knew how to do it.
Gotta stand way behind the baseline and split step to have a chance. It's even more unfair because it seems like he's allowed to miss until he gets them in, which means he's going for the lines. Even pros would have trouble returning those unless they get a read on him.
It also looks like the way they've positioned the camera behind the players is keeping them from coming back behind the baseline as far as they should. Seems like a fun challenge though!
Nah plenty of them are returnable for someone who plays a decent level. But credit given the ones off the lines are too good
They all so delusional, except that ine lady who said 10% chance. Why does everyone think they have a good return game? Theyre flat footed and not split stepping
@@illu45this! They don’t stand a chance
@@mattbooy1635😂 sure
Trey, only way to return those is to split step. Start practicing that and you'll be surprised what balls you can get to. Good content, keep it up guys!
Nah, if the serve is placed well enough and has a certain speed the split step doesn't change anything. You just have to go for the side, you think he will serve.
@@Dixel56 split step makes you a step faster. Of course, it won't return every ball for you, but getting the first step on a 115mph÷ serve is your only chance. Obviously doesn't work every time; even the pros get aced. Doesn't change the fundamentals, and I assure you split stepping is 100% correct.
Absolutely, split step is essential and good players don't guess they react.
The issue is a stagnant split isn’t really going to help you in this situation; even more so if you aren’t used to returning serves of this speed. You need to get some sort of forward momentum before the split or ideally use a flow step. Most people don’t use the split step correctly it’s doing nothing for you to just jump in the air and come down on both feet at the same time, it has to be preformed at the right time so that you can bring the opposite foot down first to then flow in the correct direction. Not saying this is easy but an incorrect split is doing nothing for your game.
Patrick actually stood 4-5 feet behind the line. Smarter than most people
This serve looks tough to read which is a big advantage. Love the placement and disguise which made it impossible for most of these players to even get close to.
Its not just the speed of the ball that makes it hard. Its his placement. Speed just helps more
return positioning is a huge factor in not being able to get returns back. every player is too far from the alley, on both sides of the court. the outside foot should always be right around the doubles line
No one is moving in or anywhere to return the serve, just stay in the same place.
Totally agree, wrong place, not ready and not reading the serve at all
This was great!! You should do a video where you compare getting a private lesson at a country club vs a public tennis center vs a guy off craigslist! Having been a tennis coach and taught lessons through all three of these I think it could be a really cool video
These people just sitting flat on their heels expecting him to serve it to them. I'd probably have like a
Hmm, they might not know what a split step is lol 😆 these are regular players sir
Dudes are way too confident!
A 120mph flat serve right to my forehand or backhand is much different than a 120 slice or kick serve
i wish i could join a video like that but unfortunately here in italy I don't think there's anyone who does things like that lmao
Pretty obvious a lot of them don't play tennis. Can tell just from where they're standing to receive.
Love the videos! These are fun and light hearted! Keep up the great work on the videos!
Most returners needed to stand closer and move in after split stepping to cut off the angles, but nobody split step at all...
I did the same against a D1 player. It was very tough returning on the backhand side. I needed to move further back.
Okay now call Djokovic! LOL
Hey! That’s austin high school if I’m not mistaken. I’ll be practicing there tomorrow. Hopefully y’all do something that could fill my pocket book tomorrow.
Lol…I play there every other day too. Hope to make some money soon
follow us on social media and we will start posting when we do these challenges!
@@Winners-Only just instagram and TikTok?
Our school is facing Austin high in a tournament pretty soon
6:11 it was out btw lol
Lmao I was dying when every time Cleeve served out wide nobody made adjustments and just stayed away from the alley. Then they would stand really close in the court and not split step and take the ball early 😭
Nice video, but why do you jump cut in between every sentence during the interviews?
"50/60%" and then the guy stands 2ft from the sideline. 7:00 he just keeps going wide because these guys don't know where to stand...
You gotta do this in NYC, bro!
Well they are all standing too close to the baseline. With a serve like that, anyone less than 4.0 is going to have a hard time. Stand way back! And guess at a direction
I feel like it should have been a forced body serve. If he's a D1 player, and he hits the line, that'll ace tour level returners... so that's not even a real challenge.
People are way too confident 😂
Honestly I would just guess left or right and hope to get it.
Did anyone split step at all?
I dont think so 🥲😂
First guy did
can anyone tell me why these look harder to return than top 10 serves? It seems to me, part of it is that the amateurs don't get close most of the time, so they look like better serves. But part of it is that he doesn't seem to serve any faults, so you don't get a look at a second serve (I'm assuming if he missed, they got a second serve, unless they just had to face another first serve??). As far as I can tell, he is modifying his serve slightly to target the amateurs, playing within himself slightly so he just targets the T or the wide serve with slightly reduced speed, but greater accuracy, knowing that amateurs aren't athletic enough to get near it. Is this plausible?
Lot of folks here would immediately improve their return of service game by incorporating a split step!!
Think about it, from a purely physical stand point Cleve has nothing on Trey and is shorter than Jake too. I’d bet a large sum that Trey has a more explosive leg drive than Cleve. Of course both Trey and Jake are at the opposite end of the service technique spectrum from Cleve. Remember with modern equipment, in todays tennis a athletic 6’4” guy with a 120 mph serve is not nearly as special as it once was. If Trey could reach 90% of the technical correctness of Cleves serve his physical advantages should still allow him to reach that 120mph level on his best serves. Of course for both Trey and Jake and the majority of players who take up tennis in adulthood learning and implementing technically proper strokes is the biggest roadblock that keeps them from getting anywhere near their full potential as tennis players. They rarely lack enough effort, enthusiasm or time commitment. The problem is they channel these great qualities into just playing tennis. Very little of these great qualities go into learning to play tennis properly.
Obviously very average players he’s acing but it’s still wild the variance in serves he can hit and ace people
cleeve is a BALLER
now the vibes on this vid are immaculate.... steeeeeeeve
Love how some people try to swing at those, f that, just block!
Another banger 👍
Not a single split step😂😂
cleeve the goat no cap
Do D1 players often turn pro? If they do, how do they do?
Only like one or two on average a year go pro and make it
Last years D1 singles champ ben shelton just made the QF at the AO
me a filthy 3.5, judging some of them who said 60% chances of return :D
lmao what is this, like 50% of his serves where out, should count as a return if he cant make a serve
I wish I could be there! Awesome vids!
You guys allowed some serves that were clearly out. Not that it would make much of a difference, but I think it's only fair to count as good the serves that actually go IN.
"About 80%" classic boomer confidence.
I never knew Eminem could play tennis
this channel will explode soon.. awesome content guys
This video is going nuclear
How many indian kids are there in that place lol ?
Is that good or bad??
STEVE GOAT JONES
Best strategy: Move away from baseline as he tosses the ball and pick a direction!
Invite college players not recreational players lol. A lot of college people would win the $100
Very simple. With todays rackets and strings. 14 year olds are serving 120. Tennis is all artificial now.
I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but that isn't the whole truth.
@@meghanayak217 simply hand the player a traditional racket and then see how they play. Very easy to see the changes. Same with MLB, hand a player a composite bat and watch how they hit 550-600 foot HR’s, I’ve watched YT channels where amateurs can hit 450 foot HR’s with ease. It’s all in the materials. When you change the equipment so drastically you alter the game and it’s core requirements and as such you dilute the statistics. I know I’m 100% right !!!
@@TimTheMusicMan the statement "I know I'm 100% right !!!" says a lot
@@oiko7450 😃. Thank you.
@@oiko7450 😂 thank you. 👍