Don't discard version 1 of the Canon 24mm TS-E 24mm f/3.5 L. You can find this lens in excellent condition for around $400 now while version 2 still costs more than three times as much.
The ii is worth the upgrade, but only if you buy it used. I'm shooting with Mark ii as of this week, but I have shot the Mark i for years. The difference between the two is kind of remarkable in terms of CA, corner sharpness and (most of all) vignetting. You can certainly pick up the Mark i for cheap. I did and was quite satisfied. Now that I have the ii, however, I'm pretty happy. Got it on eBay in Like New condition for $1100. I'd never throw down $1900 for a new one, though.
Be aware it will probably not work adapted on sony and fuji because it's electronic are based on the old standard. There will be no control over the aperture.
Thank you for this video. The 17mm with extender is a very interesting option. Have you tried the 1.4x of 2x extender on the 24mm lens and how does it impact image quality?
I did not. I do not have 24mm ts-e, but I guess the principal is the same. Few stops darker, a bit softer ect. But the price for the 2 lens compare to quick additional fixes in Lightroom is no match
Hi Vadim! First of all, Thank you! Thank you for your work, thank you for your test, thank you for all of your advices. I was looking for the best setup for my architectural photography and your video help me a lot. I was looking for a setup that isn't too expensive (I 'm newbie in the business), simple to use with quality and nice to travel with. Complicated isn't it? So after looking at your video, I get exactly your setup because it combine all of my expectation and save me a lot of money. So thank you, I really apreciated your advice. And for who ask, if the extender work with the canon adapter EF to RF: I say, yes sir, it completly works well.
Hey Matheo! Thank you for you comment. I really glad that my video help you. Yes indeed it will save a “few bucks” as well as weight and space. I also considering purchasing 2.0x extender in that case I will get 17, 24, 34 and 47mm on one lens. And since i switch to R5 recently I concur it is also working with EF-RF converter.
I was impressed to hear that samyang was so sharp - I’m very satisfied with the Canon sharpness so the samyang must be extemely sharp :) In combination with the Canon 24mm and 17mm the Rogetti adapter is Awesome to make much easier movement and Perfect stichable files since you only move the Camera body while the lens is fixed making it possible for an perfect up 251% larger end file!!! Also with the New RF adapter with drop in filter option you can use nd filter on the back of the 17mm - you should not you variable nd but fixed value drop in nd filter if you go for this options. With variable you will see uneven darkening of only parts of the image when turning. Finalaly if you can use NiSi adapter and their huge glass filter for 17mm when your not working on RF Camera - the quality is outstanding on those filters and setup looks Awesome and does create attention if you like the tech questions circus from outsiders - but it is slow and bulky to work with :) Last but not least do not save money on the tripod and preferably use a geared head with three knobs - you will save so much time in the long run with these lenses and add-on’s
Thank you for the information. All valid points. It’s an old video, since then I started to use a Canon r5 for a few years now with drop-in filters, variable nd, polarizer etc. (VND is fine by me, no issue on darken parts, or at least not what I can’t recover ) The gearhead I am using myself for many years now, could not live without it:), and recommend for everyone to use as well. If you are interested in gearheads I get a comprehensive list of all gearheads currently present on market - www.vadimsherbakov.com/blog/2021/7/14/geared-heads-for-architectural-and-cityscape-photography. So your information is great for beginners, no doubt so all should read that.
Very useful review, this is my first time of knowing that Extender 1.4x can be used on the Canon 17mm TS-E lens (I only think that it could only be used for Tele-photos lenses). However, for your understanding, does this Extender 1.4x can be used at Canon 50mm TS-E lens (complete functionality should be including the BUILT-IN tilt-shift-swing movement) ?
Ken Choi Thank you. Glad I can spread the knowledge, which btw Canon did not mention anywhere. I am not 100% sure regarding the 50mm ts-e (i never owned one), but judging by the back of the lens it might be just good. The trick is that deepening of the back of the lens should be “deep” enough for extender tube. Looks like it might be ok.
Unfortunately, the Canon RF extenders do not fit into the Canon mount adapter. Check out the Making All Canon EF and EF-S Lenses Compatible with Canon RF Extenders article for hope that future EF to RF adapters will provide this functionality.
@@vadim_sherbakov He might be asking about if/when we'll be seeing RF mount TS lenses, which I'm sure will be insanely expensive. Rumor is they have a patent to incorporate AF.
Thanks for the review - I have the Samyang - I've been using it with maximum shift and there's noticeable barrel distortion - I could try using less shift (which would reduce the lens's usefulness) - do you or anyone else have experience with this lens in terms of using less shift - so as to reduce barrel distortion ? As I say, it somewhat reduces the lens usefulness - one would like to be able to use the lens to its maximum (and advertised) capabilities - yes - it is considerably cheaper than the Canon - but it is not a "cheap lens" if you know what I mean.
Regarding the barrel distortion I think I notice tiny one at the maximum, but not so critical. Perhaps you get a faulty lens. If you have a way to check it in service shop or even change it? I agree its cheap but not “cheap” lens.
@@vadim_sherbakov Thanks - I bought the lens 3 years ago and then my work circumstances changed and quite a period elapsed before I started to use it to photograph buildings (as distinct from just using it for certain landscapes) - so I don't think I can go back with it now - several reviews from around 2013/2014 (which I didn't read in full unfortunately) point out the barrel distortion - I think this lens bears out "you get what you pay for" - I know that there are some items of photographic equipment that represent considerable value for money (I remember seeing a comparison of a Sigma lens to a far more expensive Leica lens and the Sigma won out in several categories) but unfortunately my conclusion about the Samyang - to use an expression used in the United Kingdom and in Ireland - is : "there's a fly in the ointment....."
@@Digibeatle09 sorry to hear that. I totally agree about you get what you paid for for that lens, and since its the only cheap alternative to Canon 24mm, at the time I was ok with that. The other option is to sell in hope to get another one with less distortion which is a gamble on its own. And then the good old photoshop to correct it. For that money (compare to alternative) I think we can all live with that :)
Unfortunately, the Canon RF extenders do not fit into the Canon mount adapter. Check out the Making All Canon EF and EF-S Lenses Compatible with Canon RF Extenders article for hope that future EF to RF adapters will provide this functionality.
I not only tested by using it right now. R5 + RF-EF drop-in filter (highly recommend it) +either 1.4 or 2.0 extender on 17mm ts-e. Works perfectly with no problem
@@vadim_sherbakov You might want to mention that in all-caps in the description or something, if that's possible. Great video though. I just bought the 1.4x iii extender on ebay for $200!
Canons 17 and 24 as well as the new 50, 90 and 135 (introduced 2017) can rotate tilt and shift independently. What about the Samyang? Can it also rotate t&s independently?
Hye..if i have the budget to buy only one tse lens...is it ok if i buy the 17mm with 1.4 extender..atleast i can cover 2 focal length with decent image quality..thanks
@@saxon7941 Works perfectly with EOS R. Tested it myself last week. The back of the extender is a standard mount (like any ef lens) so there will be no problem, it's a front that goes to the ef lens is a bit unusual due to its "extended" tube so that's why not every lens can be used with it.
I would go for something a bit wider amd zoom. Tilt shift lenses are quite expensive and not as versatile as zoom one. 16-35 f/4, 18-35 mm also be good for beginner.
Thanks a lot. Fantastic video. Good job. I hadn't thought about using a 1.4X on my 17mm.
Thanks. It’s undocumented “feature” of the 1.4x or 2x converters and 17mm ts-e :)
Your suggestion to buy a 17mm with a 1.4 teleconverter was very helpful. Thank You
@@GooglePay-dv7dd You are welcome.
Don't discard version 1 of the Canon 24mm TS-E 24mm f/3.5 L. You can find this lens in excellent condition for around $400 now while version 2 still costs more than three times as much.
The ii is worth the upgrade, but only if you buy it used. I'm shooting with Mark ii as of this week, but I have shot the Mark i for years. The difference between the two is kind of remarkable in terms of CA, corner sharpness and (most of all) vignetting. You can certainly pick up the Mark i for cheap. I did and was quite satisfied. Now that I have the ii, however, I'm pretty happy. Got it on eBay in Like New condition for $1100. I'd never throw down $1900 for a new one, though.
Be aware it will probably not work adapted on sony and fuji because it's electronic are based on the old standard. There will be no control over the aperture.
Really well edited and clear. Thank you !
🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hello,
thanks for an interesting and clever review.
The link to the raw files seems dead, any possibility to get the raw files please? Thank you!
Thank you. Unfortunately I lost the files and link is down for some reason beyond my control
@@vadim_sherbakov ok, thanks anyway :)
Thank you for this video. The 17mm with extender is a very interesting option. Have you tried the 1.4x of 2x extender on the 24mm lens and how does it impact image quality?
I did not. I do not have 24mm ts-e, but I guess the principal is the same. Few stops darker, a bit softer ect. But the price for the 2 lens compare to quick additional fixes in Lightroom is no match
I use both the Canon 24mm and 17mm with the Extender 1.4 with very fine results ;)
Hi Vadim! First of all, Thank you! Thank you for your work, thank you for your test, thank you for all of your advices. I was looking for the best setup for my architectural photography and your video help me a lot. I was looking for a setup that isn't too expensive (I 'm newbie in the business), simple to use with quality and nice to travel with. Complicated isn't it? So after looking at your video, I get exactly your setup because it combine all of my expectation and save me a lot of money. So thank you, I really apreciated your advice. And for who ask, if the extender work with the canon adapter EF to RF: I say, yes sir, it completly works well.
Hey Matheo!
Thank you for you comment. I really glad that my video help you. Yes indeed it will save a “few bucks” as well as weight and space. I also considering purchasing 2.0x extender in that case I will get 17, 24, 34 and 47mm on one lens.
And since i switch to R5 recently I concur it is also working with EF-RF converter.
I was impressed to hear that samyang was so sharp - I’m very satisfied with the Canon sharpness so the samyang must be extemely sharp :)
In combination with the Canon 24mm and 17mm the Rogetti adapter is Awesome to make much easier movement and Perfect stichable files since you only move the Camera body while the lens is fixed
making it possible for an perfect up 251% larger end file!!!
Also with the New RF adapter with drop in filter option you can use nd filter on the back of the 17mm - you should not you variable nd but fixed value drop in nd filter if you go for this options. With variable you will see uneven darkening of only parts of the image when turning.
Finalaly if you can use NiSi adapter and their huge glass filter for 17mm when your not working on RF Camera - the quality is outstanding on those filters and setup looks Awesome and does create attention if you like the tech questions circus from outsiders - but it is slow and bulky to work with :)
Last but not least do not save money on the tripod and preferably use a geared head with three knobs - you will save so much time in the long run with these lenses and add-on’s
Thank you for the information. All valid points. It’s an old video, since then I started to use a Canon r5 for a few years now with drop-in filters, variable nd, polarizer etc. (VND is fine by me, no issue on darken parts, or at least not what I can’t recover ) The gearhead I am using myself for many years now, could not live without it:), and recommend for everyone to use as well. If you are interested in gearheads I get a comprehensive list of all gearheads currently present on market - www.vadimsherbakov.com/blog/2021/7/14/geared-heads-for-architectural-and-cityscape-photography.
So your information is great for beginners, no doubt so all should read that.
I have 2 Olympus OM 24mm shift... should test that out
Good luck! let me know the results
Vadim Sherbakov been using it for years, very happy with them... but no side by side with others...
Very useful review, this is my first time of knowing that Extender 1.4x can be used on the Canon 17mm TS-E lens (I only think that it could only be used for Tele-photos lenses). However, for your understanding, does this Extender 1.4x can be used at Canon 50mm TS-E lens (complete functionality should be including the BUILT-IN tilt-shift-swing movement) ?
Ken Choi Thank you. Glad I can spread the knowledge, which btw Canon did not mention anywhere. I am not 100% sure regarding the 50mm ts-e (i never owned one), but judging by the back of the lens it might be just good. The trick is that deepening of the back of the lens should be “deep” enough for extender tube. Looks like it might be ok.
Thx for the review, very usefull!!!
My pleasure
yes, what about Canon RF series?
Unfortunately, the Canon RF extenders do not fit into the Canon mount adapter. Check out the Making All Canon EF and EF-S Lenses Compatible with Canon RF Extenders article for hope that future EF to RF adapters will provide this functionality.
I use Canon R5 now with RF-EF drop in filter adapter, 2 extenders 1.4 and 2.0 with 17mm ts-e works perfect. I am not sure what are you referring to.
@@vadim_sherbakov He might be asking about if/when we'll be seeing RF mount TS lenses, which I'm sure will be insanely expensive. Rumor is they have a patent to incorporate AF.
@@idahofallsmagazine3691 I also waiting for this lenses since 2 years ago when the rumors started but so far … nothing.
@@vadim_sherbakov Might be a while. Such low demand compared to other lenses they need to make, like fast L class 14, 24, 35 primes.
awesome review, the 1.4x can be used on the canon 24mm tse?
Thanks. Yes it can be. Its not well known fact nor advertised by Canon but worked very well.
Thanks a lot @@vadim_sherbakov
Useful, thanks. Like the Samyang.
Thank you, very helpfull 👍😊
Thank you. Glad you find it helpfull
Thanks for the review - I have the Samyang - I've been using it with maximum shift and there's noticeable barrel distortion - I could try using less shift (which would reduce the lens's usefulness) - do you or anyone else have experience with this lens in terms of using less shift - so as to reduce barrel distortion ? As I say, it somewhat reduces the lens usefulness - one would like to be able to use the lens to its maximum (and advertised) capabilities - yes - it is considerably cheaper than the Canon - but it is not a "cheap lens" if you know what I mean.
Regarding the barrel distortion I think I notice tiny one at the maximum, but not so critical. Perhaps you get a faulty lens. If you have a way to check it in service shop or even change it? I agree its cheap but not “cheap” lens.
@@vadim_sherbakov Thanks - I bought the lens 3 years ago and then my work circumstances changed and quite a period elapsed before I started to use it to photograph buildings (as distinct from just using it for certain landscapes) - so I don't think I can go back with it now - several reviews from around 2013/2014 (which I didn't read in full unfortunately) point out the barrel distortion - I think this lens bears out "you get what you pay for" - I know that there are some items of photographic equipment that represent considerable value for money (I remember seeing a comparison of a Sigma lens to a far more expensive Leica lens and the Sigma won out in several categories) but unfortunately my conclusion about the Samyang - to use an expression used in the United Kingdom and in Ireland - is : "there's a fly in the ointment....."
@@Digibeatle09 sorry to hear that. I totally agree about you get what you paid for for that lens, and since its the only cheap alternative to Canon 24mm, at the time I was ok with that. The other option is to sell in hope to get another one with less distortion which is a gamble on its own. And then the good old photoshop to correct it. For that money (compare to alternative) I think we can all live with that :)
@@vadim_sherbakov Thanks Vadim - eventually I hope to buy a Canon 24mm second hand.
@@Digibeatle09 Good choice
have you tested the 17mm with extender on the RF mouth adapater? Does anyone?
There shound't be a problem, for sure
2 consecutuve adapters? i wouldnt be so sure
Unfortunately, the Canon RF extenders do not fit into the Canon mount adapter. Check out the Making All Canon EF and EF-S Lenses Compatible with Canon RF Extenders article for hope that future EF to RF adapters will provide this functionality.
I not only tested by using it right now. R5 + RF-EF drop-in filter (highly recommend it) +either 1.4 or 2.0 extender on 17mm ts-e. Works perfectly with no problem
raw files link is dead... can u update it? i've used canon ts-e, but i'm just curious with samyang...
Unfortunately I am no longer have those files.
@@vadim_sherbakov You might want to mention that in all-caps in the description or something, if that's possible. Great video though. I just bought the 1.4x iii extender on ebay for $200!
Canons 17 and 24 as well as the new 50, 90 and 135 (introduced 2017) can rotate tilt and shift independently. What about the Samyang? Can it also rotate t&s independently?
Of corse Samyang can. That is one fundamental principle of tilt shift lens
Thx . Especially the center IQ image quality check. It helps a lot😼
Hye..if i have the budget to buy only one tse lens...is it ok if i buy the 17mm with 1.4 extender..atleast i can cover 2 focal length with decent image quality..thanks
Exactly my set up right now. Lighter then 2 lenses , chaperons then 2 full lenses, more space :)
Im using the new eos r...and i need to use adapter to ef lens..i dont know if t works with rf mount -ef adapter-1.4 extender - lens...double adapters
@@saxon7941 Works perfectly with EOS R. Tested it myself last week. The back of the extender is a standard mount (like any ef lens) so there will be no problem, it's a front that goes to the ef lens is a bit unusual due to its "extended" tube so that's why not every lens can be used with it.
So its fine for me to buy the 17mm tse with extender?...cool..thanks for putting so much effort to do such good review...
@@vadim_sherbakov have you lost sharpeness with the extender and the adapter? Thanks
As a beginner of landscaping, would you recommend a used TS-E 24mm, please ?
I would go for something a bit wider amd zoom. Tilt shift lenses are quite expensive and not as versatile as zoom one. 16-35 f/4, 18-35 mm also be good for beginner.
@@vadim_sherbakov Thank you so much.
Welcome
Next check out the Laowa 12mm with the magic shift converter.
2mitts Photog Unfortunately It’s only for Sony, I don’t use that system.
@@vadim_sherbakov didn't realize that! Apologies!
Вадим, сними по русски, а то ничего не понятно.
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Мне тоже жаль. Надеюсь он поможет