What the first Mormon pioneers did when they got to Utah. Ep. 171
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2022
- In this episode of Faith and Beliefs, David Snell reviews what the first Mormon Pioneers did when they finally reached their destination in Utah.
Video transcript: bit.ly/3KAaH8q
Book recommendations:
- “History of Utah,” Vol. 1, by Orson K Whitney (1892)
- “No Unhallowed Hand,” Saints, Vol 2.
- “Brigham Young and the Expansion of Mormon Faith,” by Thomas Alexander
- “The Story of the Latter-day Saints” by James Allen & Glen Leonard
- “Salt Lake City” via Encyclopedia Britannica: bit.ly/3Ngff3I
- “Winter Quarters: Church Headquarters, 1846-1848” via the Church’s website:
bit.ly/3l9g3vn
- “Establishing a Refuse in Deseret,” via the Church’s website: bit.ly/3N4w01Y
- “What life was like for the Mormon pioneers after entering the Salt Lake Valley”
via Deseret News: bit.ly/3weIoXH
- William Clayton’s journal: bit.ly/3syYt88
- “Council of Fifty” via the Church’s website: bit.ly/3wj5KLN
Notes:
- In late 1847, there were some complaints about resources near Winter Quarters, and the temporary headquarters for Saints prepping to cross the plains became Council Bluffs/Kanesville, Iowa, instead of Winter Quarters.
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One of the points of interest, to me, was they built a bath house. I'm 94 and I can remember my mother taking me to the bath house, in New Haven, Ct. Back in 1932. We enjoy so many blessings, today. Can you imagine how physically hard things were then?
Thank you!! Wonderful information and context
I’m from slc, Born an raised. I’m mixed race half B/W I just learn tonight that my white lineage was Mormon pilgrims. I always knew that side was Norman but I never knew it went back so far. So that’s why I’m here.. Very interesting
My Dad’s side were Mormon pioneers and some of the first to go to Utah. My Mom’s side is from the South and fought for Tennessee in the Civil War, while my dad’s side was able to avoid the war.
These are great. Very well put together.
Incredible Vid!! Keep this going!💖💖💫
One of my family members join the church in 1840 in Nauvoo when he lived in iwoa later came to Utah in 1852.
Well, after decades of brainwashing and abuse it’s good to free yourself from the cult and marry a coloured? How would that have made your grandparents feel??
Very well done 👏 ✔️ 👍
Great video 👍 I love this channel
My great, great, great, great, great grandma delivered the first baby born in the Salt Lake valley. Her son is the founder of Bountiful. It used to be called Sessions Settlement until Brigham Young came to visit and quoted a scripture that mentioned the land of Bountiful.
Very informative! Thank you
What a story. Can you imagine people today walking 1,000 miles through barren rough hostile lands with nothing but what they can carry. Going to an "empty" land and transforming it. Kids today can't even walk a mile to school. I moved to Cedar City Utah from the Peoples Republic of California last year. I thank the pioneers that came before me, and the the big Chernobyl like Grass Hoppers are still here...everywhere.
I have a great great something grandfather that turned back around to help saints coming to Utah. his family was weeks behind him. he was chased down my native Americans who were going to kill him but unbuttoned his shirt and saw his garments and then said to him your with Brigham young ? you can pass through our territory . he also saw wolfs digging up the bodies that had passed on the way to Utah eating them. he reached his family to learn that his dad had died. he kept going to see his dad's grave. tuff man . great video as always you guys should do videos on different pioneer stories
That’s a pure folktale similar to how Cams grandfather passed him down Wyatt Earps belt buckle, Brigham Young detested the indigenous population, they were according to him not as human as mormons at the time
What software did you use to make the video? I love it.
You should make a video about the pioneers arriving Mexico, for that country is where they went to. Only a year later became American territory. But the Gadsden Purchase area was Mexican another extra 6/7 years later:
"The Battalion’s march and service supported the eventual cession of much of the American Southwest from Mexico to the United States, especially the Gadsden Purchase of 1853 of southern Arizona and New Mexico. The march also opened a southern wagon route to California. Veterans of the Battalion played significant roles in America's westward expansion in California, Utah, Nevada, Arizona and other parts of the West."
(en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormon_Battalion)
The Mormon Battalion take a protagonist role in La Mesilla/Gadsden Purchase area when still was Mexican territory. I don't know if La Mesilla area was settled by Mormon pioneers prior to becoming American, but I wouldn't be surprised.
The western colonization by members of the Church of Jesus Christ if Latter-day Saints not only spanned American borders, but western Canada & northern Mexico. There are still thriving colonies in both neighboring countries including even temples.
There are far more LDS pioneer stories in both North American countries bordering the States. In Mexico there are heroic stories during the Mexican revolution.
The point is that for our pioneers Mexico played an important role of land of refuge. I don't believe that it has been intentionally, but this story of Mexico as a land of refuge for the saints has been overlooked.
Some LDS scholars think that Mexico will hold the New Jerusalem. More are inclined to believe that at least the part that exceeds the size of the USA in Mexico is where the New Jerusalem will lay.
Look up Iosepa, Utah
Good to see that in this chapter there was a small reference to the fact that they were escaping to Mexico. No mention that they did it as illegal immigrants. Back then you need a permit from Mexico and needed to convert to Catholicism. The Mexican government will assign the land. Austin immigrated to Texas with permits and accepting the conditions of becoming a Mexican Citizen. A decade later after Mexico abolished slavery in Texas, Austin decided to fight for independence, so they could keep their slaves. That gave us the Almo, the Texas Revolution, which fueled the Mexican American War, which fueled the Civil War, which ended in the second abolition of slavery in Texas, aka Juneteenth.
lol
how did the people from England get to america
Ships out of Liverpool, England was one way.
They came on the Mayflower ship, and they were protestants running away from King George because they did not like the laws, truth.
You left out the massacre that happened on July 24. They didn’t come there and settled that easy.
What made Brigham Young qualified to pick Salt Lake Valley as “The Place?”
Because he was a prophet of God😊
@@gingerdurbin2726 Could you explain how that qualifies him to pick a location for settlement?
@@mikefoxtrot1314 As members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, we believe that Brigham Young was a prophet who received direct revelation for the saints and their needs. I get it's confusing as objectively it is a man who arrived in the salt lake valley and decided, "hey we're gonna build a city here" so I kind of get where you're coming from. We believe that Prophets do not need qualifications to make decisions for the church, but that doesn't mean they don't try to obtain information and education on what they're doing. In the end we believe that god gave him the direction and guidance he needed to find a place for the saints to settle.
@@jabes216 How could we figure out whether Brigham Young were mistaken in some decision made on behalf of the church?
@@anjalE30 But what made Brigham Qualified to choose the location?
It's utay, not "yoot" isn't it lmao
What happened to Uncle Tom, I loved watching him make it seemed like Brigham Young thought he wasn’t cursed.. Also according to Brigham Young the native Indians were cursed.. Prophets are suppose to be innocent of sin. So his declarations should be considered similar to doctrine in terms of infallibility of source, UNLESS he is not innocent of sin then you should second guess everything they say
The only person who was ever innocent of sin was Jesus Christ.
when have prophets ever been innocent of sin
Now I ain't saying I'm a gold digger,
but they ain't messin with this Truth Seeker
They were the first MORMON pioneers, but others lived there before and there were other pioneers before them, Escalante and Dominguez 2 priests came there in 1776 on an expedition and the land belonged to Mexico, not that they were great but, they didn't put the indigenous Indians on reservations, nor did they take their lands. so, people knew about Utah that's why they went there and took over. let's be real.
NOT TRUE: the re-baptism and re-ordaination was a reformation of the church with new doctrine and practices. They called it the new order of things. The growth rate of the church 20 years prior to the introduction of polygamy was over 250% on average and the growth of the church 20 years after the introduction of polygamy was 3% on average. This shows that polygamy had a huge negative impact on the growth of the church.
Although you have been told that polygamy was instituted to grow the church it never did. Even the fundamentalist were never able to grow very good through the practice of polygamy.
The true way to grow exponentially is by having doctrine people can believe in and missionary work. You bring in 15 families on a mission, then those members send 30 men on missions that each bring in 15 families, making a total of 450 new member families.
I guess God didn't know the damage polygamy would cause, unless...(it didn't come from God?)