It’s crazy to me that people and companies are still comparing printers to the 2 1/2 year old X1C. And actually it’s hard for companies to make one better, even now. I love the Bambu is making everyone else else really step up their game. Hope FLsun and others make printers that blow the X1C out of the water in every way because that obviously means the printer would be incredible and we all win.
Hi Can you please share the profile, direct from FLSUNSlicer. It looks like the Orca-Slicer profile has change the JSON format that I can not convert, or make heads or tales of the code. Specifically what "speed" settings did you change ?? Was is just the "Travel" or was it more - I would guess more, as it would have to also be things like the accel_to_decel, and other values. I find the S1, T1 version are fast, but the vibrations and gear (stepper motor noise) (low sound growls) is my biggest hurdles. I'm in an apartment, and even slowed this stepper motor noise is driving me crazy to drown out. My T1 pro, when printing, and the fan running, is at 65db. That is INSANE DB's Any guideline is greatly appreciated.
I just had to reassemble my S1 after a leaking hotend. I work in advanced manufacturing research and have worked on a lot of 3D printers from Prusa to stratasys. I'm convinced The design of the S1 end effector is an evil plot to drive the west insane. It also took over a month to get a new hotend. I cant stay too mad at her, she is sexy. But she lies, she's difficult, and she's high maintenance.
Guy on the left your voice is the same frequency as the music in the background and it makes it incredibly difficult to hear you Otherwise keep up the good work! Looking forward to seeing this channel grow and succeed!
Thanks for your input, however we run alot of these machines and have gotten them dialed in to print just as well as our x1c, you can say we are whatever you'd like but until you see the results of our work please keep an open mind, also avoid profanity this is a family channel.
@@jessie38supercharged It's and 8 minute benchy, and it's not 2000mm/s so no not literally 4 times as fast that was my friend explaining that the speed of the printer is still unreal.
@GLRoboticsUSA I understand. He was doing the same thing flsun does when they claim 1200mm/s. But in an even worse way because he claimed 4x faster. That's saying the bambu does a 36 minute benchy. I only say all this because people use these reviews to make purchasing decisions. And alot of the claims were misleading.
@@jessie38supercharged I agree and he was speaking from his a1 mini stand point, don't get me wrong I also own an x1c but when I need something quick I still turn to this printer. It is all around quicker.
@@Wonderful3DArt We've been working heavily with the profiles in orca to mitigate it as much as possible but unfortunately salmon skin is a hardware issue not so much a software fix, again thats not saying we can't make it far less noticeable, we've been working hard to try and get this thing to the highest quality possible.
Getting fairly tired of always hearing about how “fast” a printer is. The print speed is limited by the material it’s printing. If you’re printing nothing but PLA, then sure you can probably max the printers speed out, but you will likely still suffer artifacts. If you try and max the printers speed out with most engineering grade filaments (290°C+), you’re not only going to suffer visual artifacts, but you’re going to greatly reduce the components strength via layer adhesion. Speed comes at a cost and has a line of diminishing returns. Not a jab at the video, this is just something that has been a marketing selling point for most printers nowadays, and it’s genuinely misleading when the same companies are trying to blur the line between consumer-prosumer and “industrial” products.
I don't entirely disagree with your comment and in fact I appreciate someone that is willing to take the time to wright out their thoughts and why they disagree with something. With that being said I have to say that some of this just isn't true anymore, they're making more advanced filaments that can print at speed without suffering from any kind of layer failures or adhesion issues, Mingdas PET-CF for instance it's capable of printing up to 300mm/s and when the part is done not only does it look like one solid part with no layer lines but you can literally lay the part down and smash it with a hammer and it doesn't effect it at all. Same goes for their ABS-GF, filament is more advanced now and now that 3D printing has become more mainstream materials and the understanding of them has grown exponentially.
It’s crazy to me that people and companies are still comparing printers to the 2 1/2 year old X1C. And actually it’s hard for companies to make one better, even now. I love the Bambu is making everyone else else really step up their game. Hope FLsun and others make printers that blow the X1C out of the water in every way because that obviously means the printer would be incredible and we all win.
You guys rock for figuring these issues out! Thank you!
Does the S1 pro resolve all these issues?
Hi Can you please share the profile, direct from FLSUNSlicer. It looks like the Orca-Slicer profile has change the JSON format that I can not convert, or make heads or tales of the code.
Specifically what "speed" settings did you change ??
Was is just the "Travel" or was it more - I would guess more, as it would have to also be things like the accel_to_decel, and other values.
I find the S1, T1 version are fast, but the vibrations and gear (stepper motor noise) (low sound growls) is my biggest hurdles.
I'm in an apartment, and even slowed this stepper motor noise is driving me crazy to drown out.
My T1 pro, when printing, and the fan running, is at 65db.
That is INSANE DB's
Any guideline is greatly appreciated.
Very well done and very informative...
Thank you
We're glad you liked it, If you can think of anything else that you feel the community should know please feel free to let us know.
Thanks for the awesome video!
Hope you found it helpful, we're continuing to dial in the profiles as we go.
I just had to reassemble my S1 after a leaking hotend. I work in advanced manufacturing research and have worked on a lot of 3D printers from Prusa to stratasys. I'm convinced The design of the S1 end effector is an evil plot to drive the west insane. It also took over a month to get a new hotend. I cant stay too mad at her, she is sexy. But she lies, she's difficult, and she's high maintenance.
Guy on the left your voice is the same frequency as the music in the background and it makes it incredibly difficult to hear you
Otherwise keep up the good work! Looking forward to seeing this channel grow and succeed!
Thank you for the feedback I will make sure to pass it along to our editors, and we very much appreciate the words of encouragement.
Hey hey hey, any ideas on the VFA's?
Does the S1 Pro address all the issues?
Haven't gotten our hands on the pro yet but from what we have seen and heard it has addressed most of the issues
This printer totally rocks! ............ No, literally! It is shaking the whole table and it's kinda funny to watch... 😁🤘
Haha yeah we didn't have it on the most sturdy table for the shoot that's for sure.
How do you only have 69 subscriber?
90
@@SnoringVids we're still relatively new to youtube, hopefully things take off and grow.
@@GLRoboticsUSA I thoroughly enjoyed this discussion. Subscribed and I'll subscribe on my tech channel @randotechnerd
Do you have salmon skin issues on wall surfaces?
Heard in the flsun discord that a lot of people are complaining about that.
So that's mostly a hardware issue and yes some of it was experienced but with our orca profile it isn't as bad
Yes that's the issue
These guys are full of it. Coming from someone who owns 3 enclosed bambus, a qidi plus 4 and just returned the flsun s1.
Thanks for your input, however we run alot of these machines and have gotten them dialed in to print just as well as our x1c, you can say we are whatever you'd like but until you see the results of our work please keep an open mind, also avoid profanity this is a family channel.
@@GLRoboticsUSA You said it's 4x faster after slowing it down. Must mean before you slowed it down, it did a 3 minute benchy or 4?
@@jessie38supercharged It's and 8 minute benchy, and it's not 2000mm/s so no not literally 4 times as fast that was my friend explaining that the speed of the printer is still unreal.
@GLRoboticsUSA I understand. He was doing the same thing flsun does when they claim 1200mm/s. But in an even worse way because he claimed 4x faster. That's saying the bambu does a 36 minute benchy. I only say all this because people use these reviews to make purchasing decisions. And alot of the claims were misleading.
@@jessie38supercharged I agree and he was speaking from his a1 mini stand point, don't get me wrong I also own an x1c but when I need something quick I still turn to this printer. It is all around quicker.
Did you remove the Salmon skin I'm Nealy there.
Tips on the Salmon Skin?
@@Wonderful3DArt We've been working heavily with the profiles in orca to mitigate it as much as possible but unfortunately salmon skin is a hardware issue not so much a software fix, again thats not saying we can't make it far less noticeable, we've been working hard to try and get this thing to the highest quality possible.
Phenomenal video!!! Like and subscribe people!!!
Getting fairly tired of always hearing about how “fast” a printer is. The print speed is limited by the material it’s printing. If you’re printing nothing but PLA, then sure you can probably max the printers speed out, but you will likely still suffer artifacts.
If you try and max the printers speed out with most engineering grade filaments (290°C+), you’re not only going to suffer visual artifacts, but you’re going to greatly reduce the components strength via layer adhesion.
Speed comes at a cost and has a line of diminishing returns.
Not a jab at the video, this is just something that has been a marketing selling point for most printers nowadays, and it’s genuinely misleading when the same companies are trying to blur the line between consumer-prosumer and “industrial” products.
I don't entirely disagree with your comment and in fact I appreciate someone that is willing to take the time to wright out their thoughts and why they disagree with something. With that being said I have to say that some of this just isn't true anymore, they're making more advanced filaments that can print at speed without suffering from any kind of layer failures or adhesion issues, Mingdas PET-CF for instance it's capable of printing up to 300mm/s and when the part is done not only does it look like one solid part with no layer lines but you can literally lay the part down and smash it with a hammer and it doesn't effect it at all. Same goes for their ABS-GF, filament is more advanced now and now that 3D printing has become more mainstream materials and the understanding of them has grown exponentially.