As a historical fencer and history buff, I love it! The cuts that don't penetrate the layers of wool and linen enough to cause real damage, the binding and winding, the threat management... Distance before the first move in each pass looks a little close, but I understand that's the name of the game when the action all needs to be in frame and close enough to se what's going on. And, exciting enough that people who don't know the first thing about how swords are really used would still be hooked by it. 5/5
Hi, thank you very much for your positive comments, we also appreciate you focus on particular points. Well, it is interesting about the distance, thank you for the remark, the distance is one of the most important points for us. After exploring again I dare to say that the shooting from hand and the close-ups (unlike shooting the same fight from static camera in wide shot that we do at trainings to see all faults better) distracts the perception of the distance, however the distance is (hopefully) alright. Anyway you may be right in the end and we will take even better care next time. Best regards!
@@hazicha the distance just looked a little close to me, but I may be mistaken, and it certainly wasn't ridiculously so as you see in most Hollywood fight sequences. Just a little closer than I'm normally comfortable with. But as I also said, I understand there are some compromises that need to be made for keeping the action in frame. This was a fight sequence better than 99% or more of what comes out of major studios.
As the Spanish idiom goes, "one of lime and one of sand" (i.e., a good and a bad thing have happened). The bad (so I end with the good): overusing of constipated screams. I've, sadly, seen people fight for real, and they do not scream on every move. I understand it's done to convey the violence of the action, but there are other methods (some of which you DO use). The good (which sets you above the rest): the guy not noticing havig been wounded until he sees the blood on his foe's blade. THIS I know to be often actually the case. Bravo on that.
hello, thank you very much for your interesting comments. as regards the screams, we will definitely think about that (you are right that the practise of a sound or a scream at an attack we use also comes from our school practise as it supports the move and exhalation, although there are also people who also shout at an attack to give fright or surprise opponent + as you say it is also a stage fight issue - anyway it is a very good comment to consider). thank you also for the positive one - we are really glad you confirm this case to be real as you seem to have experience, Best regards!
Thank You very much, You are talking about our main goal which we want to show. Good choreography, technique and a little of acting. If You see them there we are really satisfied.
Oh, thank You very much! I also don´t know why YT did it. But those French guys are very good in my opinion. I put short vesion of my comment under Your video again so I hope it will be OK now.
thank you for your comment. Anyway I am not sometimes sure whether it would be good or not to live around 1500 but definitely it was a very turbulent and interesting era in Europe (and also as regards sworfighting)
Excellent historical fight. An over reliance of resting the sword on the shoulder for both fighters maybe, but other than that excellent work! Keep it up!
Well done gentlemen. My mother was a commonwealth fencing champion in the 1940s and early 1950s. We've often talked about the poor examples a fencing in movies up until the 1980s. The 1977 movie the Duelists did an excellent job and Carradine and Keitel were disciplined and reasonably well trained in their swordsmanship. It is obvious that you have been Consulting the manuals and manuscripts. Also the quality of the weapons makes a difference in the outcome of the fencing. Would have been nice to see some two handed cross blocking and lateral attacks but you did an excellent job here
your comment pleased us a lot, not only fo being so positive but also for your mentioning your mother - the fencing champion - it is rare to receive comments from sport fencers, especially of such a skill, plus for mentioning the Duelists which is also our favourite movie, not speaking of the choreographer William Hobbs. As regards the two handed cross blocking - yes, it would probably make the choreography richer, we sometimes use it, but of course during the (let us say "real") fight it is not so frequent and easy to get to it. As regards the lateral attacks, I am not quite sure whether I understand technically what you mean exactly (whether you mean it generally, or you mean a more definite technique or cut), anyway thank you for these incentives!
thanks for comment, that is really nice of you as we consider the Duellists and the choreography by William Hobbs as one of the best. I do not remember the reaction you speak about very well asi it is quite a long time ago I saw the movie but I will definitely have a look at it - thanks for reminding us the movie. But I remember which duel you talk about:)
A conversation came up while myself and some club members were admiring this great video. What are your primary sources for the techniques shown here? I guessed mostly early KDF without much or any Meyer thrown in. All Liechtenauer or throw in some other stuff? No real judgment either way, just pure curiosity.
Thank you very much for your highly positive comment. As regards the question, the response would probably be better answered personally in a longer debate, but I will try in brief: 1) it is a stage fight in the first place but we try to use as many principles and techniques from the medieval longsword tradition as possible (principles first) - but see sub 4) below; 2) you guess very well - as primary sources we use “earlier” manuscripts of the Lichtenauer´s tradition, e.g. Danzig, Ringeck, Speyer, Lew, Hs 3227a in a way, but we hardly use Meyer and our knowledge thereof is limited:); 3) the more general background for our stage fights, as well as some elements and techniques (such as the execution of passive parries, threats, sliding off the opponents blade after parry etc.) comes from our teachers in the fencing schools since 1998 on (esp. Magisterium, Paridon, Digladior) who used more teaching sources; 4) we found out however that the effort to fill the stage fight with purely manuscript techniques one after another must not be exaggerated and is counter-productive. thank you for your clever question!
Hey Žehart no offence, but i've noticed that the gap between your videos are not optimal, can you inform us when will the next come out, because its really rare to find producers making Excellent realistic choreographed fight scenes.
hehe, thank you very much for your comment, we were laughing for the whole afternoon yesterday, you are definitely right, our frequency of presenting videos resembles to the appearance of the Halley's Comet. We inted to improve the frequency as we are getting older being aware of the fact that the current approach could next time result in a boring announcement of our death instead of a new video:)
Hi, well in the first place it is a stage fight, we cannot claim that it is a pure Lichtenauer or any other master but definitely our knowledge and source for techniques and principles used here are from the Lichtenauer´s tradition. As for Fiore we are not acquainted with him well enough:)
hello, thanks a lot for your comment, if I understand well and you liked it, perhaps you are too kind to us but we are happy you appreciate this kind of stage fight
@@yar3333 Returning to the video after 3 years, I'd revise my Choreography score to 8/10, but my Music score to 2/10. There's better medieval background music available, so while I appreciate what they were aiming for, I don't feel their choice accompanies the fight well.
That is pretty short for a long sword duel.
The pun is strong with this one!
Ha ha, very good sense of humor :-)
thanks for the witty comment. anyway you are right it is not the longest but hopefully not far from reality at least
Yeah it was a joke. Longsword is typically one word. Lol
@@johnmerrill6436 We know and we like this kind of humor. You punished our little mistake by very funny way!
nice, throwing in cheeky moves as well - geyslen, prellhau etc. cool to see them actually utilised in a meaningful way
Hi, thanks a lot for your comment, we appreciate you noticed these moves:) and have not found any flaws:)
Adrenaline, helluva drug! Didn't notice he was injured :O
Excellent fight!
Thank You sir.
Hey guys, this is outstanding, both technique and drama! I especially love the dramatic looks at the beginning :) I miss this!
Hi Míro, we are very, very pleased by Your kind words.
As a historical fencer and history buff, I love it! The cuts that don't penetrate the layers of wool and linen enough to cause real damage, the binding and winding, the threat management...
Distance before the first move in each pass looks a little close, but I understand that's the name of the game when the action all needs to be in frame and close enough to se what's going on.
And, exciting enough that people who don't know the first thing about how swords are really used would still be hooked by it.
5/5
Hi, thank you very much for your positive comments, we also appreciate you focus on particular points. Well, it is interesting about the distance, thank you for the remark, the distance is one of the most important points for us. After exploring again I dare to say that the shooting from hand and the close-ups (unlike shooting the same fight from static camera in wide shot that we do at trainings to see all faults better) distracts the perception of the distance, however the distance is (hopefully) alright. Anyway you may be right in the end and we will take even better care next time. Best regards!
@@hazicha the distance just looked a little close to me, but I may be mistaken, and it certainly wasn't ridiculously so as you see in most Hollywood fight sequences. Just a little closer than I'm normally comfortable with.
But as I also said, I understand there are some compromises that need to be made for keeping the action in frame.
This was a fight sequence better than 99% or more of what comes out of major studios.
@@patrickdusablon2789 thank you for your response, we will concentrate on it next time, and thanks for your compliment:)
As the Spanish idiom goes, "one of lime and one of sand" (i.e., a good and a bad thing have happened). The bad (so I end with the good): overusing of constipated screams. I've, sadly, seen people fight for real, and they do not scream on every move. I understand it's done to convey the violence of the action, but there are other methods (some of which you DO use). The good (which sets you above the rest): the guy not noticing havig been wounded until he sees the blood on his foe's blade. THIS I know to be often actually the case. Bravo on that.
hello, thank you very much for your interesting comments. as regards the screams, we will definitely think about that (you are right that the practise of a sound or a scream at an attack we use also comes from our school practise as it supports the move and exhalation, although there are also people who also shout at an attack to give fright or surprise opponent + as you say it is also a stage fight issue - anyway it is a very good comment to consider). thank you also for the positive one - we are really glad you confirm this case to be real as you seem to have experience, Best regards!
This + Adorea = AWESOME.
Thank You very much
@Darth Sandwalker Could be telepathy.
I really appreciate what you have done here, great combination between technique and choreography. and that is the way to do a great fight scene
Thank You very much, You are talking about our main goal which we want to show. Good choreography, technique and a little of acting. If You see them there we are really satisfied.
Great choreography and costumes guys! Looks very good!
Hallo, thank you very much for your positive comment!
Це один з найреалістичніших боїв на мечах! Браво!
Большо́е спаси́бо.
Best thing of the new year.
thanks a lot for such a positive comment - although I think you are too kind:)
I don't know why but TH-cam decided to delete your coment. Anyway. I personally found your video better than one you recommended to me.
Oh, thank You very much! I also don´t know why YT did it. But those French guys are very good in my opinion. I put short vesion of my comment under Your video again so I hope it will be OK now.
Love those costumes
Thank You very much. We love Lancknecht´s costumes also.
Super video! Ta krev vypadá reálně. Kdy natočíte další?
ahoj! díky moc za tak pozitivní komentář. to je dobrá otázka:) radši nebudu předjímat, ale snad to nebude za víc než rok
Duel and operators work both are the very best!
Hi, thank You a lot! Spasibo!
This is probably one of the best choreographed longsword duels I’ve seen
Thank You sir, we really appreciate Your kind opinion.
On a scale of 1-10 (in terms of true to life form, choreography & skill) I give that reenactment a 15, outstanding as it is!
Many thanks. You are so kind!
Outstanding & fantastic💯💯💯👍👍👍
Thank You very much.
Great job!! This is a super good fight scene
Thanks a lot for Your kind words.
Makes me wanna live back in those times.
thank you for your comment. Anyway I am not sometimes sure whether it would be good or not to live around 1500 but definitely it was a very turbulent and interesting era in Europe (and also as regards sworfighting)
Have fun getting your rotten tooth pulled out without anesthesia. Unless you count spirits as anesthesia.
Absolutely outstanding, I pray one day you reach over 100 million subs
Thank You very much for Your kind words. We appreciate it.
Simply amazing. Keep up the good work!
thank you very much! we will try
great work guyz, you showed some really nice techniques there and the realisation is great too
Thank You very much, we really appreciate You like some used techniques.
A damn good Duel. Welding those two handed swords takes way more energy
Thank You very much.
@@BundaZehart your welcome
Bravo gentlement, bravo.
Thank You very much sir.
Beautiful piece
Thank You very much.
Excellent historical fight. An over reliance of resting the sword on the shoulder for both fighters maybe, but other than that excellent work! Keep it up!
This is awesome
Thank You very much for Your kindness.
It still looks great!
Thank You very much, we appreciate You.
Wonderful video, keep it up!
thanks a lot!
Очень реалистичное фехтование, очень нравится!
Privet! spasiba bolshe
Wow, really good. As good as Adorea.
You are too kind on us, Adorea is very very good.
Well done gentlemen. My mother was a commonwealth fencing champion in the 1940s and early 1950s. We've often talked about the poor examples a fencing in movies up until the 1980s. The 1977 movie the Duelists did an excellent job and Carradine and Keitel were disciplined and reasonably well trained in their swordsmanship. It is obvious that you have been Consulting the manuals and manuscripts. Also the quality of the weapons makes a difference in the outcome of the fencing. Would have been nice to see some two handed cross blocking and lateral attacks but you did an excellent job here
your comment pleased us a lot, not only fo being so positive but also for your mentioning your mother - the fencing champion - it is rare to receive comments from sport fencers, especially of such a skill, plus for mentioning the Duelists which is also our favourite movie, not speaking of the choreographer William Hobbs. As regards the two handed cross blocking - yes, it would probably make the choreography richer, we sometimes use it, but of course during the (let us say "real") fight it is not so frequent and easy to get to it. As regards the lateral attacks, I am not quite sure whether I understand technically what you mean exactly (whether you mean it generally, or you mean a more definite technique or cut), anyway thank you for these incentives!
0:40 the reaction to being cut on the hand reminds me of the first duel in ridley scott’s the duellists
thanks for comment, that is really nice of you as we consider the Duellists and the choreography by William Hobbs as one of the best. I do not remember the reaction you speak about very well asi it is quite a long time ago I saw the movie but I will definitely have a look at it - thanks for reminding us the movie. But I remember which duel you talk about:)
Very nice!
thank you for your positive comment, regards!
Great combat very reallystic
Thank You very much, realism is one of our main goals in duels. We do our best although we know there is much to improve.
Very Nice!!
Great work!
thank you:)
WOW
thanks a lot for comment, no matter how brief it is:)
Seriously awesome video!
thank you !
Отлично снято, очень атмосфернно и динамично.
Большое спасибо за ваш положительный комментарий!
Awesome
Thanks a lot!
I would like to ask, where did you buy those longswords used in the video?
@@BundaZehart Wow, Thanks!
@@psychpmp222 You are wellcome
I can't read the answer, where can we find those swords please ?
Well done brothers
thank you!
good one, goot
Thank You
Not bad at all. Good work! Keep it up!
thank you, we will try:)
Who made your landsknecht clothing?
Our costumes are pretty old (more than 10 years) my tailor was Denisa Richterova, try to check cz websites. Look for denisadesign.
Nice going lads
thanks a lot!
A conversation came up while myself and some club members were admiring this great video.
What are your primary sources for the techniques shown here? I guessed mostly early KDF without much or any Meyer thrown in. All Liechtenauer or throw in some other stuff?
No real judgment either way, just pure curiosity.
Thank you very much for your highly positive comment.
As regards the question, the response would probably be better answered personally in a longer debate, but I will try in brief: 1) it is a stage fight in the first place but we try to use as many principles and techniques from the medieval longsword tradition as possible (principles first) - but see sub 4) below; 2) you guess very well - as primary sources we use “earlier” manuscripts of the Lichtenauer´s tradition, e.g. Danzig, Ringeck, Speyer, Lew, Hs 3227a in a way, but we hardly use Meyer and our knowledge thereof is limited:); 3) the more general background for our stage fights, as well as some elements and techniques (such as the execution of passive parries, threats, sliding off the opponents blade after parry etc.) comes from our teachers in the fencing schools since 1998 on (esp. Magisterium, Paridon, Digladior) who used more teaching sources; 4) we found out however that the effort to fill the stage fight with purely manuscript techniques one after another must not be exaggerated and is counter-productive. thank you for your clever question!
Hey Žehart no offence, but i've noticed that the gap between your videos are not optimal, can you inform us when will the next come out, because its really rare to find producers making Excellent realistic choreographed fight scenes.
hehe, thank you very much for your comment, we were laughing for the whole afternoon yesterday, you are definitely right, our frequency of presenting videos resembles to the appearance of the Halley's Comet. We inted to improve the frequency as we are getting older being aware of the fact that the current approach could next time result in a boring announcement of our death instead of a new video:)
Хто вiд Шаблюка?
а він вірно примітив - гарно поставлений бій. Голівуд відпочиває
@@uavwukr пфф голівуд. Тут споглядаєш наче реальний махач 👌
nice
thank you!
Is this liechtenauer or fiore ?
Hi, well in the first place it is a stage fight, we cannot claim that it is a pure Lichtenauer or any other master but definitely our knowledge and source for techniques and principles used here are from the Lichtenauer´s tradition. As for Fiore we are not acquainted with him well enough:)
Wow
thank you for your comment, regardless it means positive or negative reaction:)
@@hazicha absolutely positive my man. Loved the video
@@psyo_nade3177 thanks! very kind of you
I am from shabluk
Why can't Talabecland and Hochland be friends?
For some border issues I guess....
Hollywood choreos got nothing on this.
hello, thanks a lot for your comment, if I understand well and you liked it, perhaps you are too kind to us but we are happy you appreciate this kind of stage fight
Why can't Hollywood do this? I'd rather watch a fight like this than any of the twirly spinny nonsense that film and TV insist on using.
Thank You very much. We also love to see more realistic (I mean without the worst mistakes) duels in movies. And that day will come, we must hope.
Choreography 7.5/10
Costumes 5/10
Music 2.5/10
Thank You, short but very inspiring evaluation
I think that the music neither distracts us from the fight, nor is too boring. It adds dynamics. I would say that it sounds good here.
@@yar3333 Returning to the video after 3 years, I'd revise my Choreography score to 8/10, but my Music score to 2/10. There's better medieval background music available, so while I appreciate what they were aiming for, I don't feel their choice accompanies the fight well.
@@GonzoTehGreatwould you please give an example of a better (or excellently) suited track here?
@@yar3333See the videos by Adorea Olomouc