I really appreciate how he stresses the importance of understanding the basics of what you actually want to achieve even before explaining how to get there. Great teaching skills ngl 🔥
this dude right here is legit....i produce and write metal, but the principles shared in this video apply perfectly to my genre....these are some very good tips NOT to be overlooked by any aspiring musician/producer....
i really wanna hear some of your music if possible! you are 100% right by the way because I create 'Trap' beats but have been following this channel religiously over the past few weeks. hope you're keeping well - and if you have a music link where i could hear some of your work that would be cool af 💪🏽🔊
@@trapbeatproducer hey man nice reply! yeah for sure I'll share some....and so should you...i am setting up my soundcloud and social media for the band...
I've been writing songs for ages, and as you were talking I realised that I have ended up adhering to many of these rules just from simple trial and error over time. That said, I thought your complicated melody was great! Although I definitely agree that breaking it down into chunks and motifs and (slightly) repetitive bits would help... :) Great video, thumbs up!
time stamps (this just seems like a primer on how to make very simple, basic, potentially catchy melodies as opposed to the best possible creative melodies) 0:36 tip 1: simple is better (easily digestible) 2:41 tip 2: many great melodies use/orbit around chord tones (I don't fully agree with this lol) 3:39 chord demo 4:39 chord tone melody demo 6:18 tip 3: "good" melodies use primarily step-wise motion (I also don't fully agree with this LOL) 10:35 tip 4: repetition is key 13:17 motifs 16:00 tip 5: Vocalize your melodies (a very good tip, actually. best tip of the video that is mostly always applicable without all the caveats)
@@beckst3r i think finding exceptions to the rule and different ways of varying around the chord to be more interesting, personally but maybe it is stronger with the chord tones, it just shouldn't stick solely to that
So grateful i found your channel..Your content is incredibly helpful. I love how you don't make content for the sake of making content. You also dont regurgitate every other video on the subject. Your brutal honesty approach has unstuck me from bad habits and writing ruts. Thank you so much
does anyone else know any other youtube channels like this guys? Like ones that aren’t centered around a bunch of random esoteric mixing tips but instead look at the production side of things more holistically?
Didn't particularly care for the Peter McKinnon intro but when you got to the actual information part you did an incredibly good job explaining and showing information, I appreciate this tutorial.
Thank you so much Nathan I am forever grateful for your channel. This was is a video I really needed I didn’t have a clue how to make melodies but know thanks to you I do. Thanks to you I do I hope you have a great day :)
Really so happy I found your channel, Ive wanted to make music for years but lost confidence many times🥲 your channel makes me feel like I can actually make this my job one day as long as I keep learning - sophia
Awesome video...You are quick to each piece of info and you don't ramble on and on like some....Very efficient use of an 19 min video. Felt shorter. Great job.
Just pulled out my phone to record another idea :) Thanks for yet another helpful (PRACTICAL) tutorial with not hard rules but guiding guardrails to keep up out of trouble.
Hi , Thanks for this video 🙏🏼😊🙏🏼 . I have a question . You just said as tip 5 " Humming your melody " . Is that ( and also all of the other tips ) just for vocal melodies or the arrangement ( instrumental melodies ) ?
One more tip. Melodies have fraises. Fraises are typically around 7 tones or words with a clear ending. Ending meaning there is a rest after a couple of notes. Listen to songs you like and identify how long the fraises are. You will find patterens. :) hope this helps someone
Does whistling count for vocalizing? I've created a few melodies that way. I get the stepwise part, but I tend to use a lot of thirds, too, which are inevitably chord tones.
Your first point is exactly what film score producers struggle with ino. Compared to music like Leia Organa theme or jurassic park theme melodies, there is no soul in modern film scores
The notes you say don''t sound good would work well if you had lyrical content that was unsettled. It would create the feeling the lyrics were trying to communicate. Prosody.
these are the music composition 101 : motif - pattern , steps on scale tone , leap on chords tone . thanks for sharing to peoples, however, there is a music theories mistake regarding to qualities of music intervals: C to A , Do to La is Major 6 not Minor 6 . the formula of intervals is 1 to 6 , invert it become 1 to 3 ( C to A = 6, invert A to C = 3 ) Major 6 become to minor 3 ( opposite) when you invert it Major become minor, minor become Major. Perfect interval remain perfect . IE. perfect 4 interval invert it still remain perfect 5 , IE: C to F = perfect 4th, invert it F to C = (perfect) 5th. IE: C to High C is perfect 8th, invert it C to same C is 1 still (perfect 1) perfect interval is 1, 4, 5,8. the total add up number is 9 , root position + invert position is equal to 9 , Major become minor , minor become Major , Perfect interval remain perfect, when you invert it. Ie: C to B = Major7th , invert B To C = 2th , 7+2=9, C to c = 8th, C to C = 1, 8+1= 9. this Music theory basis from Classical music theories. this video is meant to TIPS people how to music composition not the Music theories. Great video , Thanks for sharing!
I have two questions. First, let me just say that ok loving this context, been following along for a little while now and I’m focusing hard core on production as a result and less on mixing. Would love for you to hear the results of my first track (since listening to your advice) when it’s finished. Q1: I’m planning on following your example and sending my next track off to a mixing engineer, instead of DIYing it. Would you consider de-essing a production or mixing responsibility? I find that I’m terribly lacking skill with a de-esser and end up with either too harsh of an s or it sounds like my esses are missing entirely and I have a lisp. Q2: Do you have a mixing/mastering engineer you recommend? Considering Mr Mix and Master, but not sure yet.
Thanks so much! De easing is a mixing engineer's job for sure. Any correcting stuff is something a mixer will do 100% As far as recommendations... I have my guy I use but he's not cheap. $500/song for mix and master. I'd recommend if you're just starting to try to personally connect with some in the $200 range to start out and just get experience to know how to communicate with a mixer. Honestly FB groups aren't a bad place to ask around. The Make Pop Music group is probably the best for this kind of thing - a LOT of high quality pros in there
Great video as usual Nathan! I started writing songs two years ago. I already do these things intuitively, but it’s so nice to hear you explaining why these techniques work so well. Love your channel! Thank you so much for all the great lessons!🙏
My mentor suggests creating a melody with a simple nursery type of melody rhyme and rhythm, especially for the chorus. He says, Will 20, 000 fans Want to sing the chorus back to you?
Paradox of music theory, learn all your keys, scales, triads, arpeggios, 7th, 9th, 11, 13th, suspended, etc. only to discover the best songs you love had simple lovely lines. *You should still learn it all so you can create BETTER simple melodies :)*
You're one of the new channels I found that's been really helpful!
YES! Love hearing that! Thanks so much!
I really agree!
sorry I’m late 🤭
I really appreciate how he stresses the importance of understanding the basics of what you actually want to achieve even before explaining how to get there. Great teaching skills ngl 🔥
this dude right here is legit....i produce and write metal, but the principles shared in this video apply perfectly to my genre....these are some very good tips NOT to be overlooked by any aspiring musician/producer....
i really wanna hear some of your music if possible! you are 100% right by the way because I create 'Trap' beats but have been following this channel religiously over the past few weeks.
hope you're keeping well - and if you have a music link where i could hear some of your work that would be cool af 💪🏽🔊
@@trapbeatproducer hey man nice reply! yeah for sure I'll share some....and so should you...i am setting up my soundcloud and social media for the band...
Finally somebody teaching music, you're right with this mixing tutorials.. I watched them two or three years I don't even know anymore..
I actually love the #4-3 motion on 9:17 😂
That suspension and resolution can sound good at times - but if you play the 4 without resolving - not so good
The most helpful information for songwriters I herd Yet
I've been writing songs for ages, and as you were talking I realised that I have ended up adhering to many of these rules just from simple trial and error over time. That said, I thought your complicated melody was great! Although I definitely agree that breaking it down into chunks and motifs and (slightly) repetitive bits would help... :) Great video, thumbs up!
If I'm honest this is one of the best channels out here in TH-cam. The quality of this channel definitely deserves a million subs. God bless Brother.
time stamps (this just seems like a primer on how to make very simple, basic, potentially catchy melodies as opposed to the best possible creative melodies)
0:36 tip 1: simple is better (easily digestible)
2:41 tip 2: many great melodies use/orbit around chord tones (I don't fully agree with this lol)
3:39 chord demo
4:39 chord tone melody demo
6:18 tip 3: "good" melodies use primarily step-wise motion (I also don't fully agree with this LOL)
10:35 tip 4: repetition is key
13:17 motifs
16:00 tip 5: Vocalize your melodies (a very good tip, actually. best tip of the video that is mostly always applicable without all the caveats)
why don't u fully agree with tip 2?
@@beckst3r i think finding exceptions to the rule and different ways of varying around the chord to be more interesting, personally
but maybe it is stronger with the chord tones, it just shouldn't stick solely to that
@@beckst3r Bc you basically can't have any scales in the melody then. Also sometimes you want dissonance to make the listener a little on edge
Love the channel...the best part is that it's not about the software...it's about the theory.
You are by far the best teacher on music producer youtube
always learning alot from you sir . upcoming music producer in Uganda, thanks
Awesome tips Nath as always! Please do more music comp stuff, it's 🔥🔥
Yo the information you shared in this video is immensely helpful, thanks!
So grateful i found your channel..Your content is incredibly helpful. I love how you don't make content for the sake of making content. You also dont regurgitate every other video on the subject. Your brutal honesty approach has unstuck me from bad habits and writing ruts. Thank you so much
So much fun, watching your videos! Thank you!
Oo..I actually love the gross out of chord note. I'm a sucker for modal melodies. The repetition concept is the best single tip imo.
Wow, I’ve recently started watching your videos and it’s nice to see you’re a Nebraska boy just like me!
Go Big Red!!
Hey Nathan, you are such a huge influence on me. I make beats all the time and sometimes I use some of your melodies to make beats
Awww snap! Nice 🔥
dude you are so good at teaching. your methods with your expressions made grown up people impressed like a kid in kindergarten :'), thank you...
You had some half steps in the step-wise, but GREAT, simple video! Thank you!
Half steps and whole steps are both steps. Diatonic (meaning in the key)
@@NathanJamesLarsen Not trying to be a critic, still learning. Great video!
Not at all - but half and whole steps are both still considered "steps" and not leaps. Just clarifying!
The orbiting chord tones tip was groundbreaking
I'm understanding so much more!
Thanks for the tips, really helpfull for my songwriting
For sure! Happy to help!
does anyone else know any other youtube channels like this guys? Like ones that aren’t centered around a bunch of random esoteric mixing tips but instead look at the production side of things more holistically?
I actually learned a lot from you:), and can you please make a whole dedicated video on how to make a song like LAUV.
Search Makenpopmusic on yt u will get your beloved results totally accurate
@@dr.bindakumari3562 ya i've seen that
Great tips and ideas. Going to start recording my vocal ideas. Thanks!
magnificos videos , gracias por compartir sus conosimientos
Thanks for your channel and tips. Finally something really practical!
I will use your tips on my project now. Your channel is very usefull for me. Thanks a lot :)
Thanks for helping us as always
From: South Africa
Absolutely! Thanks for checking it out!
Same here from South Africa helpful, all his videos
Nathan - could you do a short vid on making sure instrument input levels into logic (from Audio interface) are at proper volume? TY
Great info! Thank you sir
Learning so much from your channel, thank you!!
Man… i just love this channel, thank you 🎹🎼
Didn't particularly care for the Peter McKinnon intro but when you got to the actual information part you did an incredibly good job explaining and showing information, I appreciate this tutorial.
Great tips and talk about melody writing. Keep it up!
Thanks a bunch!
Underatanding couplets same as writing lyrics forming a stanza..makes easy to understand how a melody works✌️☺️
This Pro.......
he is a legend
This is the most helpful info I've seen for writing good melodies. Thanks for this.
Greatly tutorial Nathan. Just the content i need to improve my writing skills
this is one of the best youtube channel i have ever found❤️❤️
Thank you so much Nathan I am forever grateful for your channel. This was is a video I really needed I didn’t have a clue how to make melodies but know thanks to you I do. Thanks to you I do I hope you have a great day :)
I needed this !
Im currently experiencing writer’s block and it’s terrible
So cool dude and informative. No nonsense padding here! Thanx.
You write really catchy melodies
great stuff man
Best channel for tutorials on TH-cam acc.
Could you make a video where you just make a full song and it’s not edited so we can see everything you do?
Thanks so much! You should check out my live streams that's what I do!
Really so happy I found your channel, Ive wanted to make music for years but lost confidence many times🥲 your channel makes me feel like I can actually make this my job one day as long as I keep learning - sophia
Bro you make Masterpiece videos .. really really Helpful Thanks 🙏
Awesome video...You are quick to each piece of info and you don't ramble on and on like some....Very efficient use of an 19 min video. Felt shorter. Great job.
very well and easy to understand explanation, thanks a lot
This was very helpful!! Thank you!
I would be the guy that plays an endless melody line that cannot be remembered. now I realised that.
Haha! Been there too
Do you have a perfect octave overtone in your voice? Interesting sound when you vocalize your melodies...
I think the melody is the most important part of the song and it is what you remember after you hear it.
Nathan, your videos are the best. Subscription on your channel was one of my best choices 😉 Thank you so much for what you doing ✌️
U are so helpful man♥️
Thanks 🙏
Just pulled out my phone to record another idea :) Thanks for yet another helpful (PRACTICAL) tutorial with not hard rules but guiding guardrails to keep up out of trouble.
Awesome too
The melody at 11:58 really sounds like Without You by Avicii! Anyway cool video, very helpful!
The moment at 10:40 really won me, I have a dorky sense of humor too
Thank you, this is one thing I was looking for.
This was great!
Super helpful
vocalization tip 💯
Hi , Thanks for this video 🙏🏼😊🙏🏼 . I have a question . You just said as tip 5 " Humming your melody " . Is that ( and also all of the other tips ) just for vocal melodies or the arrangement ( instrumental melodies ) ?
good stuff. love the channel. you got a sub!
Stepwise motion was essential to me
can anyone name the tracks playing in the background?
¡Great video! Regards from Spain :-)
Thanks Jaime!
Thank you Nathan🙏
What Piano are you using in this Video?
You're Awesome 🔥
this is dope
Awesome!
From Nigeria ✌️♥️
One more tip. Melodies have fraises. Fraises are typically around 7 tones or words with a clear ending. Ending meaning there is a rest after a couple of notes. Listen to songs you like and identify how long the fraises are. You will find patterens. :) hope this helps someone
Strawberries melodies sound delicious. Coulis au fraises on top of it all.
Does whistling count for vocalizing? I've created a few melodies that way. I get the stepwise part, but I tend to use a lot of thirds, too, which are inevitably chord tones.
Your first point is exactly what film score producers struggle with ino. Compared to music like Leia Organa theme or jurassic park theme melodies, there is no soul in modern film scores
What song is playing the background?
That was helpful thanks ✨
Love it thanks!! 🙏🔥😎
Thank you
As always, great content 👍
When is the next live BTW? 🤔
Thanks! My computer has been having MAJOR issues with live streaming so I am working on finding a solution soon. Kept having overload issues
At 7:52 I did learn something new. "A" is a minor 6th in C major. Where did you study harmony?
I have a degree in music composition - so I took 4 years of music theory. To say I'm a theory nerd is an understatement
@@NathanJamesLarsen Think you missed the point Nate.
Yup. That's embarrassing. LOL Ya, A flat is a minor 6th. Reading that obviously went over my head. Turns out people make mistakes ;)
@@NathanJamesLarsen No problem, I've made tons of mistakes myself, in my lifetime. There should be an award for people like me :-)
@@daveking-sandbox9263 haha! That come framed??
I’m using vocalize to make my melodies ideas I thought I’m only me doing that and I never thought that is truly exist in the music theory 😂
nice thumb !
The notes you say don''t sound good would work well if you had lyrical content that was unsettled. It would create the feeling the lyrics were trying to communicate. Prosody.
these are the music composition 101 : motif - pattern , steps on scale tone , leap on chords tone . thanks for sharing to peoples, however, there is a music theories mistake regarding to qualities of music intervals: C to A , Do to La is Major 6 not Minor 6 . the formula of intervals is 1 to 6 , invert it become 1 to 3 ( C to A = 6, invert A to C = 3 ) Major 6 become to minor 3 ( opposite) when you invert it Major become minor, minor become Major. Perfect interval remain perfect . IE. perfect 4 interval invert it still remain perfect 5 , IE: C to F = perfect 4th, invert it F to C = (perfect) 5th. IE: C to High C is perfect 8th, invert it C to same C is 1 still (perfect 1) perfect interval is 1, 4, 5,8.
the total add up number is 9 , root position + invert position is equal to 9 , Major become minor , minor become Major , Perfect interval remain perfect, when you invert it. Ie: C to B = Major7th , invert B To C = 2th , 7+2=9, C to c = 8th, C to C = 1, 8+1= 9. this Music theory basis from Classical music theories.
this video is meant to TIPS people how to music composition not the Music theories.
Great video , Thanks for sharing!
Wish I found your channel sooner
Your beard is majestic and godlike
Like a descendant of Thor from Asgard 🪓 💪🏽
I have two questions.
First, let me just say that ok loving this context, been following along for a little while now and I’m focusing hard core on production as a result and less on mixing. Would love for you to hear the results of my first track (since listening to your advice) when it’s finished.
Q1: I’m planning on following your example and sending my next track off to a mixing engineer, instead of DIYing it. Would you consider de-essing a production or mixing responsibility? I find that I’m terribly lacking skill with a de-esser and end up with either too harsh of an s or it sounds like my esses are missing entirely and I have a lisp.
Q2: Do you have a mixing/mastering engineer you recommend? Considering Mr Mix and Master, but not sure yet.
Thanks so much!
De easing is a mixing engineer's job for sure. Any correcting stuff is something a mixer will do 100%
As far as recommendations... I have my guy I use but he's not cheap. $500/song for mix and master. I'd recommend if you're just starting to try to personally connect with some in the $200 range to start out and just get experience to know how to communicate with a mixer. Honestly FB groups aren't a bad place to ask around. The Make Pop Music group is probably the best for this kind of thing - a LOT of high quality pros in there
oh i like you😌🔥🔥
Did you go to Full Sail?
Nope. Nebraska University
Bro really giving us the CHEESE 🧀. Imma make it cause of your awesome vids 😎
Great video as usual Nathan!
I started writing songs two years ago. I already do these things intuitively, but it’s so nice to hear you explaining why these techniques work so well. Love your channel! Thank you so much for all the great lessons!🙏
My mentor suggests creating a melody with a simple nursery type of melody rhyme and rhythm, especially for the chorus. He says, Will 20, 000 fans Want to sing the chorus back to you?
Great!
Juice Wrld is great for melody inspiration imo
I struggled a little bit understanding the first tip since that depends on what kind of music you make...
As I said these are principles - gotta do what works for the scenario but for pop music (which is what I mostly talk about) it is 100% true
Paradox of music theory, learn all your keys, scales, triads, arpeggios, 7th, 9th, 11, 13th, suspended, etc. only to discover the best songs you love had simple lovely lines. *You should still learn it all so you can create BETTER simple melodies :)*
please i want see from viet nam
14:20 thats future rave