@@definedphotography my introduction to it was Luke Slater chopping up 2 copies on Radio One at about half 4 in the afternoon on the Love Parade 2000 , he was going ballistic and they cut him off after 20 minutes! Probably because it was too hard for Radio One never mind at that time of the day 😂😂
@@sildek7240 yeah that remix and 2 copies of the magnetic ep the original is on haven't left my bag in over 20 years!! All 4 tracks on magnetic still bang fucking hard.
Funky Techno I believe we used to call this.. Good job for those recognising all these tracks from a time where a lot of records sounded the same. They're more like DJ tools than records you'd play from start to finish. The best ones were actually made before Y2K.
Props to the artists who recognized so many tracks, all these Hardgroove tracks tend to sound alike... but they are still bangers that can do some proper damage on the dancefloor :) thank you TEB and looking forward to the next one already! And the editing is really 🔥
I didn't recognize any of the tracks or any of the participants and was just confronted with “hardgroove” as a style for the first time, and yet, or maybe because of that, I think this is one of, if not the most entertaining format on all of youtube. All thumbs up!
This, and Swedish techno blowing up at the same time. It was fun until it wasn’t. There was just so much samey fodder. But, looking back from a safer distance, I can appreciate it again, because it SLAMS.
I had Ben Sims - Manipulated in my mind for years and could not find it. They played it so often back then. I was so exited when I heard th fist seconds. Such a relief!
this is the first time watching this series where i could name more than half the records... these were my jam back in the day, so many memories unlocked thank you...
we called it Sweden Techno, cause it was brought up heavily by AdamBeyer, Cari Lekebusch in 97/98...then also picked up by the Italian guysMarco Carola or Gaetano Parisio. All definitely before 2000
@@minkowski4d This was more the sound of Deetron and Ben Sims, Mark Broom. Ben Sims often used the Hardgroove name. I called it Tribal Techno, Funky Techno.
In sum - back in the day it was released no bugger out there (except for maybe Ben Sims apparently) seemingly called it 'Hardgroove'. The title of this vid is a nonsense regardless.
@@PhatInAHat Back then, it was Funky Techno and Tribal Techno, maybe even Tech House in examples like Oxia (before Tech House got usurped by Minimal), or something like Housy Techno. In the 2020s, for a few years now, many DJs and producers have mixed and extended the sound of these classic tracks into what is now identified as Hardgroove.
Fack never knew hardgroove was my jam, tomaz vs the filterheadz, dj preach, ben sims, adam beyer, deetron. My gawd i miss those days. Always thought it was techno, but i was a little kid when they were bangers. 🎉❤
nice! have quite a few of the tracks. Interesting people are confused by the term Hardgroove. I remember the term appearing in the UK in the late 90's, while Tribal Techno was the more common description in Europe. BUUUT by the late 00's there was a new smaller set of DJ's playing fast funky techno they called 'Hardgroove' in Europe. That was kind of a second wave, and we're on the third wave currently. We also called it loop techno sometimes in the early days. Ultimately It's all just techno.
These blind tests are so much fun to watch, even if this is not my favorite genre - so thanks for this entertaining episode. At least i knew one track, so that's not too bad. ;)
This was my wheelhouse. The Oxia track is Hypnotik not Chrono (same EP). My faves were Leandro Gamez (The Way You Beat Me), Danilo Vigorito (Imaginary Boy), Tomie Nevada (Memory Lane... where the Zenit at ?), Beyer (Flamethrower), Secret Cinema (Acid Come), Oliver Ho (Earth), Bryan Zentz (D-Clash). Also recommend Felipe & Nicolas Bacher - Sensa Di Fortuna, Alex Bau - Internal Breakdown, Markantonio - Pragnatico, Marco Bailey - Fiesta Leblon, Paco Osuna - Vida Loca, Tomaz vs Filterheadz - Sunshine. Ah man. I need to go have a mix with these again now..
Super happy of this awesome episode with such great artists with very very good hardgroove’s knowledge Respect for Annē👹👏 I only recognized Deetron and Mark Broom styles in their tracks but not the titles honestly and I’m very proud to add those gems into my collection! Milestones Thanks again ✌️
I was just coincidentally looking for some Hardgroove releases and I managed to stumble upon this, tysm for publishing this video, its very helpful for looking for new music. 🙏
@@grisha4167 Really? Can you send me some sets in this style? Because all I hear is shitty modern techno mixed with trance, the crap that umek/bayer are making nowadays and the fools who played some radio hits not so long ago.
@@RafauCpk check any sets from artists from Mutual Rytm (Anne from this video @hor); any Vil/Cravo set, what ive found on youtube Funk Assault@ADE-23, any Hector Oaks set, Stef Mendesidis@BLOCK33'21 was a masterpiece
@@RafauCpk any artists set from Mutual Rytm (Anne@hor), Funk assault@ade23, any Vil/Cravo set, any Hayes artist actually, any recent Hector Oaks set. all the djs from this video are djing alot, just dig a bit its not the underground
Shoutout to Leandro Gamez, he gave me that track "Sin Perfil" on WAV the cool thing of these track its that u need to buy the vinyl in order to play the song but not me jajaja XD i have those files and i feel so lucky😔 he was my favorite dj when i was a kid
I've always enjoyed this sound but never knew that the subgenre had a name. It's like techno with some sounds from funky house - kind if the opposite of tech house which seems to be house with techno sounds
So it's called hardgroove now? I just called it techno back in the days. Man i instantly remembered that Glenn Wilson track, i played the B2 a lot, good ol' loopy hardtechno tracks on Submissions. Oh damn Hermoso on round 9? That's just straight up schranz, didn't expect that on this genre. Albeit it's the tribal mellow mix and not the hard version
I had never heard of a genre called Hardgroove. I remember well that short-lived period in the beginning of the 2000s, and it was (tribal) techno, and I quickly got fed up, thanks to Force Tracks, Kompakt Records, etc., saving the years 2002-2003 with the minimal house & techno approach. (Never heard that Glenn Wilson track. It is good).
Not really my techno genre but funnily except for Killa productions, I know all producers. Its crazy how similar music sounds to you, when you are not really into the genre.
well I certainly recognised the bens sims manipulated adam beyer remix what a classic and on gold vinyl. Plus killer productions reminded me of a jeff miils purpose maker track :)
This stuff is 100% my jam. If i hat to explain to someone what techno is, this is what i would play them. I, however, had no idea this stuff was called hardgroove untill you anounced this video. And I'm glad you did 👍♥
Love these Telekom - just an idea ; could Blind Tests be intro'd with the DJ's explaining the genre a little to us? Or even themselves? Never heard of Hard Groove before, so for those of us lacking a little knowledge it'd be even more enlightening - thanks!
You've never heard of it before because it's a bullshit genre name. It's just techno. If you had to specify more loopy, or maybe triball-y techno tracks.
@@PhatInAHat also not realy true. There was the Ben Sims Labe Hardgroove, where many Records of this Style were released and sometime the people called this style only "Hardgroove"...but in fact is was technically hard Tribaltechno. For me its more shocking that the people nowadays lack in knowledge and the origin of the Technostyles. People, please finally do your homework!!
After more 30 yrs of being a real techno fanatic and a real vinyl collecter (also having Hardgroove records) i never heard of it before as a genre. Only since the new tiktok cringe generation -who are unfortunatly destroying the scene- are talking about it
proper solid tool-orientied techno. plenty of that in my box. still a little puzzled why there's so much fuzz and hype around it and how that 'hardgroove' re-branding as a style actually went down considering it was only the name for a label name in the beginning... but well, if that rebranding helps to bring some proper vibes back it's all good.
THIS 6 HARDGROOVE GOATS MARKWILLIAMS ANNE SERA J ELISA BEE BAUGRUPPE 90 AND DJ SLIN !!! I LOVE THIS PEOPLE HARDGROOVE NEVER DIE HARDGROOVE THE BEST TECHNO GENRE EVER !!! NEVER DIEEEEEEEE ALWAYS WITH US FROM 2000 TO 2040!!!
The golden years of techno :))) I’m 38 today and remember it as it was yeasterday! Peace and love ❤
54, and rather agree (94/04 )
I'm 43 and loving the shit out of 1996-2006 techno.
41 and same feelings!
Same age, same Feelings.
ooof that opening Ben Sims track was a monster when it was released!
2000
oh yesss!
@@definedphotography my introduction to it was Luke Slater chopping up 2 copies on Radio One at about half 4 in the afternoon on the Love Parade 2000 , he was going ballistic and they cut him off after 20 minutes! Probably because it was too hard for Radio One never mind at that time of the day 😂😂
Still is
@@sildek7240 yeah that remix and 2 copies of the magnetic ep the original is on haven't left my bag in over 20 years!! All 4 tracks on magnetic still bang fucking hard.
Protect Hardgroove at all costs!
protect hardgroove by unsuscribing to this nonsense
Yeah Tribal Techno
already been taken hostage by "loop pack" sellers and 19 year olds throwing said loop packs together and calling it a track
@@noname1210hh PREACH
Don’t you mean funky techno?
Funky Techno I believe we used to call this.. Good job for those recognising all these tracks from a time where a lot of records sounded the same. They're more like DJ tools than records you'd play from start to finish. The best ones were actually made before Y2K.
@jorisvoorndj
Don't say it too loud, someone is lecturing already 🤷♂️
@@ElectronicBeatsTV Probably right 😎
10 killer tracks in a row.
Finally a new one! When I hear the techno from this period I always think about Cari Lekebusch, true techno artist
Cari, Hertz, Heiko Laux, Steve Rachmad. All worth the nod !
@@o0pinkdino0o adam jay, samuel l session, oliver ho, gaetano parisio, mistress barbara etc etc
Props to the artists who recognized so many tracks, all these Hardgroove tracks tend to sound alike... but they are still bangers that can do some proper damage on the dancefloor :) thank you TEB and looking forward to the next one already! And the editing is really 🔥
Wow, Anne is incredible! Awesome knowledge and so simpatico!
Gotta love ANNÉ!
I have never stopped playing her track "Fairy Dust" on OOP009 since it came out 2020, banger tune!
I didn't recognize any of the tracks or any of the participants and was just confronted with “hardgroove” as a style for the first time, and yet, or maybe because of that, I think this is one of, if not the most entertaining format on all of youtube. All thumbs up!
This, and Swedish techno blowing up at the same time. It was fun until it wasn’t. There was just so much samey fodder. But, looking back from a safer distance, I can appreciate it again, because it SLAMS.
There are SO MANY tracks titled Women Beat Their Men using that same sample of Dominatrix Sleeps Tonight, and they almost all sound the same 😂
I had Ben Sims - Manipulated in my mind for years and could not find it. They played it so often back then. I was so exited when I heard th fist seconds. Such a relief!
this is the first time watching this series where i could name more than half the records... these were my jam back in the day, so many memories unlocked thank you...
I see a new Blind Test video, I click, I enjoy! Great editing as usual, keep them coming!
I knew some of these artists, but didn't even know it's labelled "hardgroove"
i remember mixing these just as "techno" back in the day
we called it Sweden Techno, cause it was brought up heavily by AdamBeyer, Cari Lekebusch in 97/98...then also picked up by the Italian guysMarco Carola or Gaetano Parisio. All definitely before 2000
@AlecLeigh 100% but times are changin‘ and people need new labels.
@@minkowski4d This was more the sound of Deetron and Ben Sims, Mark Broom. Ben Sims often used the Hardgroove name. I called it Tribal Techno, Funky Techno.
@@MichelGueli ah yeah true. Forgot about Ben sims. There was a difference compared Adam bender & co
Das beste was die Telekom auf die Beine gestellt har
Hardgroove! Never heard of it but it reminds me of what Samuel L Session played for some reason
Yup defo ! Great artist still releasing today.
found that Ortin Cam record in a dusty bin somewhere in Seoul in 2022. Great find.
Love Annes productions. Very happy to see, that she aced this ❤
wow such a nice one!! We're demanding for a part 2 right away 🤞
Absolote heaters. Hard grooves were so mainstream in all summer sets this year. Kids will be alright.
the blind test that i most liked! we want more!!
This is real techno
Mark Williams the very best.
First track Is legendary is one of the best selling techno vinyl ever :)
I am today years old learning about this genre. In my day we'd just call it funky techno. Nice to hear a few tracks in a set but not an entire set.
Thats a cool fact
in my days we used to call it Tribal Techno
In sum - back in the day it was released no bugger out there (except for maybe Ben Sims apparently) seemingly called it 'Hardgroove'. The title of this vid is a nonsense regardless.
I'm glad it's not just me - I have a lot of these and similar tracks and never called it hardgroove! 😅
@@SydvalerikSame to me, back in the days it was called tribal techno in Germany
@@PhatInAHat Back then, it was Funky Techno and Tribal Techno, maybe even Tech House in examples like Oxia (before Tech House got usurped by Minimal), or something like Housy Techno. In the 2020s, for a few years now, many DJs and producers have mixed and extended the sound of these classic tracks into what is now identified as Hardgroove.
Fack never knew hardgroove was my jam, tomaz vs the filterheadz, dj preach, ben sims, adam beyer, deetron. My gawd i miss those days. Always thought it was techno, but i was a little kid when they were bangers. 🎉❤
Ahhh ! Sunshine by Tomaz vs Filterheadz. Also Zzino.
Same here, shit never knew it was Hardgroove.
Love these. That Oxia track was a killer.
Enjoyable as ever! I don’t even like hardgroove but I always appreciate the effort, energy and enthusiasm of each episode ❤
nice! have quite a few of the tracks. Interesting people are confused by the term Hardgroove. I remember the term appearing in the UK in the late 90's, while Tribal Techno was the more common description in Europe. BUUUT by the late 00's there was a new smaller set of DJ's playing fast funky techno they called 'Hardgroove' in Europe. That was kind of a second wave, and we're on the third wave currently. We also called it loop techno sometimes in the early days. Ultimately It's all just techno.
Today I learned tribal techno is nowadays called hardgroove for some reason.
Don't say it too loud, there's a hardgroove warrior here in the comment section and he's lecturing.
I've only recognized the Essex Rascals crew stuff. I also have the Deetron record but used to play the track "Don't You Know Why?" from that one.
can't wait for round 2 of hardgroove, thanks
Every single track pushed a different button! Unbe-f*ckin'-lievable!
Nice list. Miss the good old times with guys like Technasia, D.A.V.E. the Drummer, Umek, Adam Beyer, Ian Void, Mould Impression, Ignition Technician.
These blind tests are so much fun to watch, even if this is not my favorite genre - so thanks for this entertaining episode.
At least i knew one track, so that's not too bad. ;)
Please never stop making these
Amazing tracks and much better than what is released today 🎉
100%
Thank you for this series 🫶🤗💙
Glad you enjoy it!
This was my wheelhouse. The Oxia track is Hypnotik not Chrono (same EP).
My faves were Leandro Gamez (The Way You Beat Me), Danilo Vigorito (Imaginary Boy), Tomie Nevada (Memory Lane... where the Zenit at ?), Beyer (Flamethrower), Secret Cinema (Acid Come), Oliver Ho (Earth), Bryan Zentz (D-Clash).
Also recommend Felipe & Nicolas Bacher - Sensa Di Fortuna, Alex Bau - Internal Breakdown, Markantonio - Pragnatico, Marco Bailey - Fiesta Leblon, Paco Osuna - Vida Loca, Tomaz vs Filterheadz - Sunshine.
Ah man. I need to go have a mix with these again now..
Anne is a machine
I call this genre Banging Techno
It’s a crime you didn’t add Mhonolink in one of the rounds. ;) surely one of the pioneers of the genre
Super happy of this awesome episode with such great artists with very very good hardgroove’s knowledge
Respect for Annē👹👏
I only recognized Deetron and Mark Broom styles in their tracks but not the titles honestly and I’m very proud to add those gems into my collection!
Milestones
Thanks again ✌️
love early 00s techno.
Amazing genre!!!! Waiting for another part of hardgroove
Thank you...great as every episode :)
So Many Classics ! Pleased with the selections.
I’ve got most of these records in my collection and they are still relevant 💣
I discovered this subgenre in its fullest a month ago... this episode is a blessing. Tks
mark broom is a masterpiece
Im an old guy so im thinking wtf is hardgroove...turns out its what i call in my head carnival techno lol (dont judge me purists) 😆😉
I was just coincidentally looking for some Hardgroove releases and I managed to stumble upon this, tysm for publishing this video, its very helpful for looking for new music. 🙏
The first seconds of the first track should be immediately ringing a bell!
Finally new epizode! Nice one!
6/10 ... The golden years of real techno. So happy it is making a deserved comeback. (MFs played my secred weapon too wtf -ahh.. yeah)
I miss these tracks on festivals.
Man, last year and this year hardgroove is everywhere, I feel each festival in Europe has a dj playing hardgroove
@@grisha4167 Really? Can you send me some sets in this style? Because all I hear is shitty modern techno mixed with trance, the crap that umek/bayer are making nowadays and the fools who played some radio hits not so long ago.
This stuff is huge you're out of touch
@@RafauCpk check any sets from artists from Mutual Rytm (Anne from this video @hor); any Vil/Cravo set, what ive found on youtube Funk Assault@ADE-23, any Hector Oaks set, Stef Mendesidis@BLOCK33'21 was a masterpiece
@@RafauCpk any artists set from Mutual Rytm (Anne@hor), Funk assault@ade23, any Vil/Cravo set, any Hayes artist actually, any recent Hector Oaks set. all the djs from this video are djing alot, just dig a bit its not the underground
Best Genre 🎉 b90 🔨 Anne 🔥💪 thx for your music 🙌
Golden era of hard groove🎉
thnx so much for this episode, total trip down memory lane and techno was real techno loopy tribal and funk/groove
knew as soon as I saw the title Slin would be involved
I fucking love that this sound has come back.
Never heard of hardgroove before, but wow! 10 great tunes there. Thanks for another awesome blind test.
I love pretty much everything released on labels like InTec, Primate, and (not picked up here) Planet Rhythm.
Yup, they missed Zenit as well which I bought everything on. Also Primevil and Code Red which was a Drumcode offshoot.
I THINK HARDROOVE TECHNO IS THE BEST TECHNO EVER, HARDGROOVE NEVER DIE AND HARDGROVE COME BACK IN 2023 AND EVERYDAY HARDGROVE MORE AND MORE!!!
Let’s just call it funky techno like we used too
Great selection!! Not REAL hardgroove if you ask me, but still a lot of good memories! 2000''s techno still is the best! 😍
Shoutout to Leandro Gamez, he gave me that track "Sin Perfil" on WAV the cool thing of these track its that u need to buy the vinyl in order to play the song but not me jajaja XD i have those files and i feel so lucky😔 he was my favorite dj when i was a kid
mark williams forever
Finally a nice episode again, great.
My favorite series is back!
Thank you again. MAkes my life better
Round 1: Fight! So excited let’s go 😅
such a great era of techno
Best Of The Best Techno, Under Love
hardgroove my beloved ❤
1st song and already fire!!! 🔥🔥🔥
ANNE ENERGYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WOWWW
I've always enjoyed this sound but never knew that the subgenre had a name. It's like techno with some sounds from funky house - kind if the opposite of tech house which seems to be house with techno sounds
Tech House is if you take Techno and House and remove both
@@FluxTraxyeah, fair enough. Tech house is crap. The worst of both worlds
really love young blood vs Master Edition :P
I recognize most of the tracks. 100% my genre (this is a kind of techno). I get goosebumps and a happy feeling when I hear these tracks.
So it's called hardgroove now? I just called it techno back in the days. Man i instantly remembered that Glenn Wilson track, i played the B2 a lot, good ol' loopy hardtechno tracks on Submissions.
Oh damn Hermoso on round 9? That's just straight up schranz, didn't expect that on this genre. Albeit it's the tribal mellow mix and not the hard version
It's not called Hardgroove now. The video title is bullshit.
telekom has no idea what hardgroove is
@@GUNJACKOFFICIAL lool just made that comment as well ahaha
@@AThousandDetails BRUH he admitted it then deleted the comments
Hardgroove is techno not its own thing hahaha!
So good! ❤❤
Wicked.
Very entertaining as usual. 🙂
Would it be too much to ask for a dedicated breakbeat episode please? ❤
I had never heard of a genre called Hardgroove. I remember well that short-lived period in the beginning of the 2000s, and it was (tribal) techno, and I quickly got fed up, thanks to Force Tracks, Kompakt Records, etc., saving the years 2002-2003 with the minimal house & techno approach. (Never heard that Glenn Wilson track. It is good).
HARDGROOOOOOVE WOW THIS SECOND TRACK THIS BASSLINEEE WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Awesome Blind Test, thank you, recognised a few of these even though I am more of a Trance guy, still love to dabble with Techno too :)
Oldies Goldies Oh Yes, Oh Yes !
….ah, genre specific techno, nice
Another great episode, thank you guys 😉
Not really my techno genre but funnily except for Killa productions, I know all producers. Its crazy how similar music sounds to you, when you are not really into the genre.
well I certainly recognised the bens sims manipulated adam beyer remix what a classic and on gold vinyl. Plus killer productions reminded me of a jeff miils purpose maker track :)
I needed it. 😌
This stuff is 100% my jam. If i hat to explain to someone what techno is, this is what i would play them. I, however, had no idea this stuff was called hardgroove untill you anounced this video. And I'm glad you did 👍♥
we need another dnb/jungle episode! would love a blind test on 90s techstep or somthing
Love these Telekom - just an idea ; could Blind Tests be intro'd with the DJ's explaining the genre a little to us? Or even themselves? Never heard of Hard Groove before, so for those of us lacking a little knowledge it'd be even more enlightening - thanks!
de.ra.co/features/4163
Nothing new we could add here.
@@ElectronicBeatsTV Thank you!
You've never heard of it before because it's a bullshit genre name. It's just techno. If you had to specify more loopy, or maybe triball-y techno tracks.
@@PhatInAHat also not realy true. There was the Ben Sims Labe Hardgroove, where many Records of this Style were released and sometime the people called this style only "Hardgroove"...but in fact is was technically hard Tribaltechno. For me its more shocking that the people nowadays lack in knowledge and the origin of the Technostyles. People, please finally do your homework!!
@@brutforce17 What people called it hardgroove? 😊 Hard tribal techno? As opposed to soft tribal techno? 😂You are making shit up.
After more 30 yrs of being a real techno fanatic and a real vinyl collecter (also having Hardgroove records) i never heard of it before as a genre. Only since the new tiktok cringe generation -who are unfortunatly destroying the scene- are talking about it
Welcome to the club! 😉
One of a few Blind Test playlists I didn’t do myself as I still don’t get exactly what Hardgroove is 😂
proper solid tool-orientied techno. plenty of that in my box.
still a little puzzled why there's so much fuzz and hype around it and how that 'hardgroove' re-branding as a style actually went down considering it was only the name for a label name in the beginning... but well, if that rebranding helps to bring some proper vibes back it's all good.
THIS 6 HARDGROOVE GOATS MARKWILLIAMS ANNE SERA J ELISA BEE BAUGRUPPE 90 AND DJ SLIN !!! I LOVE THIS PEOPLE HARDGROOVE NEVER DIE HARDGROOVE THE BEST TECHNO GENRE EVER !!! NEVER DIEEEEEEEE ALWAYS WITH US FROM 2000 TO 2040!!!