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- One of the earliest network television programs on AIDS, this episode of ABC News' Nightline with Ted Koppel aired on December 17, 1982.
The episode examines the medical, legal, social, religious, and emotional impact of the disease as it was at the start of the epidemic, including the treatment and discussion of children with AIDS, the prevalence of Kaposi Sarcoma among certain AIDS victims, early research efforts, statistics on victims, and the danger and lack of a test for AIDS in donated blood are discussed.
Dr. Joseph Bove of the American Association of Blood Banks, Dr. James Curran of the CDC, and AIDS researcher Dr. Roger Enlow are interviewed.
An update on a heart transplant patient from Pittsburgh is included at the end of the episode. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Celeste Carlisles is my aunt , she died around 1982 -1983 , according to my parents , I have no information regarding the child, but Carlisle’s was a very beautiful woman and a local model
Thanks for sharing that! Yes, she was very beautiful!
Le viking de guyane yes she was very beautiful.
Not sure how she could have died in 82 if this video was from December of 82
TheOddz313 she could’ve died that same month dumb bitch
I’m sorry to hear that. She was gorgeous!
Wow I was a senior in high school when this program aired. Four years later I was infected.
Wow, that's amazing you survived before the good meds came out! That was a scary time even for those without the disease. I remember being paranoid about it at age 5. Can't imagine how scary it'd be having that ticking timebomb in your body before the cocktails came out.
I assumed I would be dead soon. So many others didn't make it. It was a terrifying time for everyone and no one knows why some of us survived whrn most didn't. I've been living with HIV for 32 years now.
Rick Hall I'm surprised and glad you survived my cousin did not. He died in 93.
So glad that you are a survivor!
Ellen Kay Thank you! So am I. :)
Also its wild to watch all these experts talk about AIDS before HIV had even been discovered yet
Those doctors (and research scientists) had done an incredible job in figuring out the disease and how to handle the crisis in the early eighties.
TO ALL THE NURSES AND PHYSICIANS AND HEALTH CARE WORKERS AND SCIENTIST WHO GAVE EVERYRHING THEY HAD!!!
And God
@@claudianeymour2010 No
@@something2061 I second that No.
So who made you a scientist
Inspired me to join health care. Those who worked in the locked wards despite fear and confusion, they are angels on earth.
Covid-19 brought me here. We pushed through the terrifying AIDS crisis with huge breakthroughs in treatment. We will power through the Corona crisis and be better prepared for the next scourge
Here at 250k Covid deaths in US, a few similarities of governmental malice and indifference, sadly.
@@LalaBee4now yep and it’s the same people who wanted people with aids to quarantine that DONT want to quarantine with covid! The irony!
@@LalaBee4now Covid infected: untreated max 4% dead, HIV infected untreated 100% dead. Not comparable.
@@ingevonschneider5100 - Correct and thank you for that injection of sanity!
man this aged gloriously
RIP Celeste, Amahd and Dr. Enlow. All died AIDS complications.
Per Find A Grave, David Ben-Harosh passed away on December 3, 1986 - thirteen days before his ninth birthday.
Sad !
That hit me, as soon as the nice lad spoke you smiled, but instantly knew he was a victim. Poor little fella 😢
Amazing almost 40 years later the progress made from almost 100% fatality to patients being able to live a relatively normal lifespan. With work progressing towards a cure,and vaccine.
This is video is a great example too of the fact that science doesn't know everything right off the bat, and might even have contradictory data/outcomes at times, but that doesn't mean we should trust it, because in the end it is often our best bet. Lot's of lesson to be learned by certain conspiracy theorists/anti-vaxers today
I lived in New York at the time AIDS first came out. I was so horrified that at this disease that I thought the world was coming to an end. I just couldn’t understand.
This news cast came out the night I was born. I couldn’t imagine living through this terrifying time.
Wow. That's crazy. I was born in 85. I knew that the early days of AIDS were chaos and many died. I know the history well, but watching footage from the time; really hits me. It really puts all this in to perspective.
@ritemoelaw_books83 wow you are only 3 years older than me.
Yep. I was born in 85 also.
@@jeremymoore145 ill be 35 in August. Its been that long since the AIDS crisis. Unbelievable
Yes,,,me too ..I was born in 76 ...and distinctly remember ..a LATE LATE NITE REPORT ...And it stuck with me because it frightened me . Then the stigma that came from this diagnosis. I remember when they made the quilts , the movie etc ...but it truely helped me see a timeline of my life but realizing it as a adult ( if that makes any sense)
I agree, didn't know much before... but watching these early clips saddens me and changed me and I will def be extra careful
That poor innocent baby
Horrible I had to skip past the part with the baby my mind just kept thinking about the horror that poor baby had to go through.
NO-ONE deserves to get a disease... disease does not discriminate & neither should we!!!
Thats what i was thinking poor 👶
cindypltnm
I know! That was heartbreaking. He was innocent.
I had to skip it too.
0:30 Well, he missed on that one, 4 decades later, it's still with us.
Its sad seeing the children getting this and dieing from it
Complete silent and prayers to those who didn't make it. I hope they are in peace wherever they are now ✨
🙏🏿🌠💖
Truly.
We should have squashed the Haitian blaming far sooner than we did. That was a very dark day in America history and it drove many "ordinary, healthy Haitians" into the shadows and discouraged many who had been infected from not only seeking medical attention, but also from seeking testing.
It was political correctness that made people not say bull when Haitian men denied sex with men.
I remember when this was basically a death sentence. It's incredible what medical science can do. I commend all those who worked so much to find a way to help make this manageable. What a scary time it was. Everyone knew someone, even if tangentially, that died during this time.
My companion died 430 am June 5th 1982 at northwestern memorial hospital Chicago Ill.
very sad...that was exactly one year from the first reporting of the epidemic. June 5th 1981 was day 1.
I'm very sorry for your loss.
@@michaelglenn367 In 2019 we shouldn't still be saying that June 5th 1981 was day one. That ignores everything that we have learned about the global pandemic over the decades.
Sean Webb You have a reading comprehension problems and critical thinking comprehension problem in all threads where you post. They very clearly said when the epidemic was first reported, not when it started.
@@katvtay You wear your ignorance as a badge of honour.
Very interesting to watch these videos only to see how far we've come!
CAPELLASAMPIERE yea but it's still a shame we loss a lot of good people who suffered .while the Regan administration and so many others hated gays and did nothing to try and stop this thing.i have mixed feelings about how far we've come . really because there is no proof but rumor has always had it the government made this terrible thing up in a lab.i don't know. But to think if this is true. I have no words for humanity .if people would do such a thing.😔😔😔
Haven’t come very far. At great financial expense and loss of so many lives there’s no cure, and no vaccine. The drugs are better (and still expensive) but HIV is still a complicating factor to carry for life, and if you get cancer later in life then combating it with HIV is all the more challenging. Not a good deal.
mia Williams
Expectations are too high about Reagan.
When you consider gays and their negative affect on public health, the American society acted pretty quickly.
In the Soviet Union, they outlawed gays, which meant they had much less of the disease until the fall of communism.
Really, I think their policy is the best one.
Not far
Mr. M A J E S T I C XIII . Blackstruggle77 Not far? The disease was a death sentence, now it is a manageable condition. We also have PrEP and U = U, huge advances in prevention. We still need a cure, but we have come very far in tackling this disease.
Sad,..we knew so little and Kids suffered as well and may they REST in Peace with All who suffered. May we fight until the cure is here in our midst.
Epidemics of infectious diseases always cause sickness, suffering and death. They always exacerbate existing social issues and create new ones.
the heart transplant story is such a strange counterpoint to the rest of the video
Sometimes watching these documentaries brings anger to my heart. Looking at such an innocent soul suffering is beyond. It took a whole four years for the Reagan Administration to realise that AIDS was now an epidemic. To make matters worse, The recording is here on You Tube when the Secretary of state laughed at the journalist who posed the question whether the President knows about AIDS. There were American religious HOMOPHOBES who were busy preaching that AIDS was God's wrath on homosexuals. By the TIME everyone woke up, AIDS was out of hand.
you are correct. I was there.
Any scourge even if it gos against religon..should be attacked with vigilance..science should not be halted financially due to religon..or it might just end up at your door..
It may not be God's wrath, but it sure is a useful consequence of degenerate behavior.
@@user-qjvqfjv It's ridiculous how a recent documentary lauded Gaetan Dugas (patient zero) how compassionate he was and he caring he was towards others, while he knowingly spread a disease because he was "young and wanted to have fun" which to him was having 250 sex partners a year, barely knowing their names. How much do you have to bend and twist your mind to believe statements like that? They are hell-bent on calling it healthy and normal behavior what is clearly not. Modern Americans will die on this hill. And that madness will be what destroys them.
Thanks for uploading this. Interesting video.
I find these videos interesting for it shows how well adapted this virus is to really hurt those it's infected and how well the human spirit is to try to fight against it.
So sad when innocent children are affected bye aids breaks my ❤:(
No need to refer to one group as innocent and suggest that another group is deserving or less worthy of compassion.
@@seanwebb605 The children ARE innocent and it's always especially heartbreaking to see children suffer. Her statement was not offensive and she didn't suggest anything. You read more into it and that's on you.
@@jonesy2892 Shall I correct your grammar first or your understanding of the subject?
@@seanwebb605 Ha ha! That's all you got?? You think my grammar is poor? Go back to your mom's basement
@@jonesy2892 I think your grammar is atrocious and you have no understanding of the topic.
Poor baby. I was born around the same time. He probably didn't make it.
My oh my...how far we've come!
Stephanie Mathis Not far enough.
Still have a long way to go.
Matt Beeman “Haven’t done shit.” You’re kidding, right? HAART currently can allow a person infected to have a normal life expectancy. It’s not 100%, but nothing in medicine is. AIDS deaths are usually because people don’t know their status and wait too long to get the meds, or they do not take the meds properly, leading to resistance.
At least pneumonia and influenza have vaccines. Many people still don’t get them, putting themselves at risk. While the vaccines can’t 100% prevent contracting pneumonia or the flu, at least it’s something. Saying we haven’t “done shit” is just false.
Matt Beeman I stand by what I said. Saying “we haven’t done shit” is a gross misrepresentation of the advances that have been made. Of course it is an imperfect system, and more work needs to be done. Deficiencies in care that need improvement is not even close to the same as “haven’t done shit.”
The word that comes to mind as I listen to this report is “nascent.” How much we didn’t know then. Among the biggest misunderstandings of what people knew then was how Haitians contracted HIV.
this is odd to watch during covid. I think we're all smarter now, i think.
Clearly we’re not, but I do it find it ironic how the ones that wanted people with aids to quarantine even though it wasn’t transmissible through casual contact are the ones that don’t want to quarantine with covid which is highly transmissible.
Nope, not at all
I know you think that comment means something but it doesn’t.... it actually means nothing at all ... the two aren’t related in any way apart from both being infectious virus .
@@marycat2287 actually AIDS is transmissible through contact. Because if you get that other persons blood or drink after them through saliva or have sex w them. It is transmissible through contact
Two different things
"When I find the vein I hope I will feel better". Young David's comment here has haunted me as the polar opposite happened and I feel so sad for him and his family. I well up a bit every time I see it.
The day before my birth. Wow, how society has changed.
David Ben harosh passed away a few years later.😢
Rest In Peace Mr. Hudson. God Bless And Amen * * *
5:48 He looks like Freddie Mercury. RIP. 😢
I thought that too when I saw him sad 😭
We in Medicine were Slow on the uptake with this Disease. Herpes-not AIDS- was on the Front Page until the Summer of 1983, when I first heard of it. And, we arrogantly stated that "The Blood Supply is SAFE."
Agreed. By the time this was aired, AIDS was "officially" 18 months in and the medical field by and large were still utterly baffled. Scary times..
2:00 I didn’t know Roger Ebert was also a physician.
8:58 Or there was a Doctor Aragorn!
@Wallace Durango Like "Blaine" and "Weatherby" in "In Living Color?" "Two snaps UP, a shake and a shimmy!"
This was very scary when it 1st came out in 1982. now it is normal in 2019 and is treatable but not curable.
It’s pretty likely it’s curable, but med companies gotta make a coin off treatments so.
It has been cured in a few cases now. Ironically the news has been stifled by Covid 19.
@Matt Beeman Because they didn’t take their flu shot and had an already compromised immune system?
Does anyone know how things went for the heart transplant patient.... John Koval? I searched and could not find anything.
That was my Uncle who ended up passing away a few months after the transplant. He was an amazing man who was such an intelligent and sweet man.
originally called GRID
HIV/AIDS will never be cured
Law enforcement need to analyze reports for AIDS/HIV. Especially in Albany Ga where I live.
So tragic video meaning that every people with aids or even with minors symptoms is probably dead within few years
Zeiss Standard at the 40 second mark! My favorite vintage microscope.
Now people have more probabilities of survive, but can someone tell me since when is aids less deadly? what has changed from the 80s to the 2010's? I don't know so much about this topic.
Most people who are HIV positive (i.w. were exposed to the virus) are taking either a "cocktail" of meds or one pill a day to maintain a reasonably healthy immune system; most get their blood drawn at least 3-4 times a year to monitor their T cells and viral loads, which are indicators of the immune system strength or weakness. The medications are surprisingly effective but there were some horrible side effects (rarely reported on in order to avoid panic and support the "miracle medicines" narrative that led to what became the extremely profitable AIDS industry) among the first generation of long term survivors, especially in the late '90s and early 2000s when these meds were relatively new and unrefined. An HIV positive diagnosis today in 2020 is not considered a death sentence like it was back then; it's more like being diagnosed with diabetes and is now usually manageable. Most people today have forgotten that AIDSi kept killing people for at least 15 years before there was a medical breakthrough in around 1996. That is why I have watched this CV epidemic and how people have reacted with a certain amount of head-shaking; the mortality rate isn't even close to what AIDS was, and I've noticed the denial of people who think CV will be over after a few months; it's now been here for a year with no sign of abating. AIDS changed everything back then and CV has changed everything now, but there is otherwise no comparison.
I am wary of the word "victim" because it so often denies self-responsibility as to behavior, However, it is my personal belief that gay men have suffered a lengthy post-AIDS period of PTSD as a group. We went through a totally unexpected near genocide-like epidemic that lasted for at least 15 years before there was any effective treatment or hope. Then, just as we were dealing with what amounted to being used as guinea pigs for a variety of unrefined medication combinations for which the long term side effects were unknown, we. like everyone else in America, experienced another major trauma (9-11) a mere 5 years or so later. If you know a gay man over 50 who experienced the whole AIDS epidemic and have survived it you know a person who is coping with PTSD on some level. Some are coping well, many more did not. It is not possible to go through such horror and lose partners, boyfriends, and multiple friends without it having the effects of PTSD. Yes, there are many people who have suffered a few death that affected them terribly; an average gay men in my generation experienced the loss of multiple friends and loved ones. There is a difference in the scope of the loss that should be acknowledged.
Good.
Now its the corona virus pandemic.
At the very end of the video there is a story about a heart transplant patient named John Koval. Does anyone know what happened to him?
That was my Uncle who ended up passing away a few months after the transplant. He was an amazing man who was such an intelligent and sweet man
@@briangeorge5783 It's crazy that you read this four years later! I'm so sorry for your family's loss. I hope his wife and son are doing well. I'm glad he got to meet and spend time with his baby before his passing. Too bad it couldn't have been longer❤🙏
5:24 the math doesn’t add up. You get 101%.
Interesting.
6:19
How are you going to leave out sperm but mention saliva, urine and feces?
Also it can be contacted through blood
We didn't know at that point. It was completely new, science is trial and error.
This plague has wiped out at least 1/3rd of the world population. We all know at least 10 people personally that died, in our families, friends, and coworkers. A tragedy, and so preventable.
That's not accurate.
@Matt Beeman His numbers are way off, but most of us know someone who has died of AIDS. We just didn't know that AIDS was the cause. Families often lied about the cause of the illnesses and deaths.
Your partner can cheat and give it to You. Not so preventable
A third of the world population? Are you high or something
Not true today.
I cry for the children bc they are truly innocent in this tragedy
Everyone was innocent in this tragedy
@@cristy8192Not so!😡
@II-wx4kv All it took was having sex one time. As much as you seem to want it to be about a person's moral failing it wasn't that simple
@II-wx4kv And you know nothing about the individual lifestyles of the people who got AIDS
they should protect those people so they dont have any more bad things happen to them
What happened to Karposi's? The virus must have mutated because one rarely sees it in HIV+ people.
No, once you have karposi sarcoma you have gone from HIV+ to Aids. The medications now, prevents most who are HIV+ from ever developing full blown AIDs.
@@neeneelee1973 You never go from HIV to AIDS. HIV infection untreated leads to AIDS, but people with AIDS still have HIV.
@@seanwebb605 "never" you say, just wait until shtf and the economy falls or a world war breaks out. Or do you think these medications grow on trees?
Got dat gangsta. Can't shake that off.
What? Convetdation on TV? In early 80?
Em 6:09 Doctor diz que a doença pode ser transmitida por saliva, urina e fezes, daí começa às discriminações em massa em uma época sem informações plausíveis, pois, não tinha um investimento adequado da administração Reagan.
The disease was still relatively new at the time. Many doctors wouldn’t have known any better even if there were adequate funding.
Além disso também me chamou a atenção o âncora já começar associando a doença ao "comportamento promíscuo" dos gays e depois a matéria falar sem ter muitos elementos ainda que a suspeita era de que o HIV chegou aos EUA junto com os imigrantes haitianos.
20:28 was he infected?
Dr Spartacco apparently doesn't know the difference between excrement and excretion
AIDS started in the gay community in the early 80's
So much for AIDies
Saliva ??
2:15
I would like to see an update on the baby.
K Trigs sadly that baby is long gone and the mother too rip.
Celeste Carlisles is my aunt , she died around 1982 -1983 , according to my parents , I have no information regarding the child, but Carlisle’s was a very beautiful woman and a local model
Zouk Tv
How can u not have info about the baby if your really related to her??
Candy Girl aight have heard stories but this happened so long ago , i do not remember much
Vik'in De Guyane Well then ask your family about it. How can you not be curious?
Trying to blame it on Haitians.
They said a small population. It was mostly gays at the time. Calm down.
There's more than meets the eye. The greatest genocide ever of bantu Africans in southern and East Africa. Apartheid government has been implicated by the officials.
"Good news: the blood transfusion went well... Bad news: we gave you HIV as well... Soryyy" 😅
Reminds me of that scene in "And the Band Played On" when the straight female who happened to get exposed through a blood transfusion is given the bad news by her doctor. It was a devastating scene and so powerfully acted by Swoosie Kurtz it was haunting. I notice how people romanticize the '80s and make it sound like nirvana and an endless party but there was an incredible amount of human suffering going on in the back-drop of that decade; it was much darker than people want to acknowledge.
Remember when it was called GRID? "Gay Related immunodeficiency" :(
Reagan's shame
Not limited to Reagan. Who in a leadership position in the GOP or Democrats showed any compassion and made it a priority?
Just reagan ? Not the thousands of promiscuous queens spreading it ? Or the junkies?
Burn in hell Reagan next to your AIDS victims and Iran - contra buddies...
@@pikachuteresa his aids victims? so it was his responsibility to make gays not sleep with hundreds of people a year? how about some self responsibility?
@@jonah1418 how about taking action as a president to combat an unknown disease with unknown risks but I guess he was too busy with Iran-Contra affairs.
@6:25 - sweat ?
Gar Nunce it was the very early years of AIDS. Doctors were still trying to figure out the cause and ways one could contract this disease. Of course today we have a lot more information and we wouldn’t say sweat as a way of transmitting the disease.
@@Wondah007 Nor saliva. It's important that people understand that.
@@jennifermarie3158 absolutely. I was just responding to the sweat question
Transmitted through saliva. Ha!!
RFK Jr. thinks that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS.
3:00 wig 100%
Not saliva though...
It was 1982, it took time for the facts
They were giving Haitians a bad look
Aids is almost a thing of the past
The doctor and his theory on Hatians and Aids is cringe AF. Smdh!
They didn’t know anything about it in 1982. Part of what he said was correct,
107:07
0:03 it's misterous, it's deadly and sexy!
Jesus Christ, I heard how inhumanely this story was reported with relation to gay men, but holy shit this is bad
But....it started in the gay community. Their behavior didn’t help either.
Yes, it's true.
Please don't put gay people on this sanctimonious high chair as being above the fray. There were many businesses that did not shut down after being warned of the disease and most of those, of course, were in San Francisco. You do know that gay people can also make mistakes? This is one of those times where, unfortunately, they decided to take money over health and it hurt that community. Now, it doesn't mean that it's any less important that we take care of the disease, but let's keep facts as facts.
@@QuintTheSharker There is some validity to your point; one can always point a finger at behavior and "life-style choices" but you seem not to be connecting the dots as to the time frame. The promiscuity of some gay men in the '70s was not limited to gay men (straights were promiscuous then too; I moved to L.A. in '74 and it was a big party town) and the proliferation of sex enhanced by drugs was inspired by the hippie movement of the '60s. It is important to look at context rather than just making judgments that condemn people. Gay men did not know there was a virus like this coming out of the blue; it was like being hit by a nuclear bomb with no warning.
@@QuintTheSharker It didn't start there, it spread there. There's evidence of HIV being in the US since the 50's.
@@phxazjarhead The government had been trying to control gay people and exterminate gay culture for eons, so of course when the government says gay-oriented leisure/business must close down, gay people are going to be a bit suspicious of the motive
i wonder if that baby is still alive today
jesus camacho virtually impossible as he was in aids stage in 1982 they ever didn't how what to search and had limited experience in treating opportunistic infections
I wish he was, but antivirals didn't come out until 1995 and Ahmad was already sick.
Karen Kay how do u know
They must have removed my link that I attached. The one I was talking about is Travis Jefferies. Search for the documentary "Travis" by Richard Kotuk. That is the little boy who is now a man. Amazing!
My mistake, he was 18 months by December 1982, meaning he’d be 12 when Oleske gave that interview in summer 1993. Yeah, the doctor definitely would have shared he had a surviving patient who was infected in 1981.
A real example of how the 1980s could suck. :(
AIDS SPECIALIST- We don't know anything.
40 years later much is still not known
"Spreading in epidemic proportions to other populations." How silly are predictions.
Reagan 🩸 🤚
How did the baby get it, the baby didn't have any sexual contact unless the mother has it.
The mother said she had it
Reagan pooped in my pants
What is that DR talking about?? The ignorance is real in this video.
Candy Girl we didn't know any better back then.
Candy Girl The discovery of AIDS was less than 2 years old at the time of the video. Doctors were still trying to understand the nature of this disease so you must understand at the time not a whole lot was known.
People don't understand how science works. It's not just "poof" and then you know everything. The word is complex. It's trial and error. Yet, in the end, science works--as our containment of the AIDS crisis shows
Joseph Goebbels would be impressed by this propaganda
They didn’t know anything about the disease. What do you expect?
How convenient the CDC is involved again
Who else would and should in a health crisis especially when the disease involves a pathogen?
Dept. of Irrigation and Drainage?
Or perhaps the DOT?
How about Dept of Defence?
i bet you eat horse paste
Mustaches..= gay men..its just a stigma..so shave all Mustaches..
To find out the unknown steady the known.
GRIDS. Gay Related Immunodeficiency Syndrome.