Damn. Flo Marching does not do you guys justice. I got to see the show live in Murfreesboro (7/29) and the soundscape was immaculate. Easily my favorite show of the year. The way everything was mixed, from the voice-over, to the keytar, to the hornline and pit, it blended so incredibly well. It truly was my favorite show to see live, and I got to see the top 8. Huge props to you and the rest of the audio people who work basically behind the scenes!
@@JosephKimAudio you're welcome! It brings me such emotions of awe seeing all of the parts come together so perfectly, especially in person. I love how you guys build the sonic foundations of these shows. Can't wait for next season!
Incredible! back in my day we had a couple of speakers, probably a cheap QSC amp, a Mackie12 channel mixer and maybe a synth and an upright bass mic hooked up to it. Technology is amazing these days! I went on to work for a couple Pro Audio companies so I've seen some of the evolution from then to now. I love that it is allowed in DCI and incorporated. I think we had an electric guitar one field show season in the 90's and they almost didn't allow it.
They're vertical steering arrays, so they can control the placement of the speaker for full coverage in the stands. I would presume that it's the same audio coming thru the mains.
I see a couple helix antennas and a couple LPDA’s. Can you say if the antennas are transmitting as well as receiving? And if so, do you need an FCC license?
So were you controlling the ethereal sounding audio before the show starts at 5:28? Never could get a clean sample of it. Interesting seeing all of this behind the scenes!
@@JosephKimAudio Ah, nice--makes sense that the ones utilizing the speakers the most would be responsible for the sound checks. I wonder; what are the radar dish looking things attached to the corners of the cart for?
I help direct the on/off the field process and help troubleshoot as needed. Most of the RF engineer’s job takes place before the show in frequency coordination.
Luckily, as the activity progresses, more and more corps are starting to post job listings as needed for audio engineers/interns. So keep your eyes peeled for those! I just asked a lot of questions and poked around for opportunities. This was actually my first foray into live audio, but I have a degree in electrical engineering with a minor in music, and my academic/research focus in graduate school is on audio signal processing.
I couldn't help but notice the only cords were to the speakers and the soundboard cart. are all key boards individually wireless mics? and how often do you have one go haywire? if that does happen how do you get it back online?
Good questions! Long story short, those two cable snakes coming from the RF cart contain everything we need to communicate with the front ensemble/speakers. 25-pin DTR connectors send signals to the speakers, and CAT5 cables transmit/receive everything through digital audio (REAC). All of the keyboards are connected through analog CAT5 snakes to the synth carts which send REAC signals to us. The left side also supplies power, and we have a couple more short CAT5 and power cables to connect the RF and mixer carts. The keyboards are definitely NOT wireless.
@@JosephKimAudio I think it would be cool for you to upload a second video type of commentary over this one explaining what you're doing.. just a thought 🤷♂️
Damn..... I help make sure my HS audio setup works, but our setup is plebeian compared to y'alls. We've got 5 marimbas and 4 vibes, all with mics. The marimbas get 2 AT2035s, and the Vibes only get 1. We've got only 4 QLXD wireless channels running into a set of Shure Fins, and 4 AT2035 stage mics for the winds. 3 Rode NTG 2s for features, and 5 Synths- a DTX12, MODX8, Motif XF6 and Motif XS7 (iirc). Then an old Malletkat (we tried the Pearl EM1 Malletstation last year, but the wind kept triggering it and creating phantom presses) running into a Mac mini running mainstage. The synths run into a Tio1608d, which sends the signals to the TF5 running the show over Dante- with the exception of the Mac Mini, which sends audio via Dante VSC. Then our drumset has 7 mics (2 overheads, kick drum mic, snare mic, 3 mics on the toms) running into an old 01V96 V2. Then we've only got 2 speaker carts- each with a huge Yamaha subwoofer, and a large Yamaha speaker. If I've mixed on Yamaha TF and CL gear, worked with Dante setups (am L1 certified but planning to go to L3 when I have free time) and ran audio for a marching band, what other skills should i pick up to get a chance to work audio for a DCI corp?
Sounds like a great setup! And it seems you have a lot of skills already. It's always great to have experience as a drum corps member as well if you haven't done that already - living and working on the road on the DCI tour is an entire skillset unto itself and having that knowledge is extremely important. You could have all the skills and experience in the world when it comes to audio but if you don't know how to take care of yourself through the physical and mental rigor of the road you're not gonna be much help.
@@JosephKimAudio Also- a little sidenote. Why do y'all use the Roland M5000C? I get that it has a ton of channels and is really configurable, but wouldn't the CL or Rivage line offer more flexibility and modularity, more capability, and just have a wider install base and thus greater familiarity? Or a console from DigiCo or Solid State Logic. All of them seem to be largely superior to the Roland, but since I cannot find much info on the M5000C I'm a little curious why y'all use it (it's literally not even listed on Roland's website either).
How do you manage to land a job like this? I love drum corps but I’m not good enough to perform at this level and this seems like a good way to still be part of it!
So I see a mixer board on the cart to your right of course controlling levels but what do you I guess do? Because your cart doesn’t have a mixer on it so is it just a plug-in cart sorta thing or what? Whatever it is, it’s sweet! Our band only uses a mixer and not whatever your using! Keep doing gods work! 6 words baby!
@@JosephKimAudio yeah i bet. I played guitar for 1 movement in my hs show and it didn’t work for 2 comps. We definitely needed someone like you to figure that stuff out lol.
How do you guys mix to where it sounds good from the stands while being at field level and all speakers being at a really weird location relative to you?
Fantastic question! Most every competition venue has a designated area for a corps' sound engineer up in the box near the judges. With the Bluecoats, we would have a member of the staff up in that area with a microphone that allows them to talk to us directly through our in-ear monitors. That way, while we were mixing the show, we could get real time feedback from a set of ears in the box for any adjustments we needed to make.
@@dizdawgjr34 Pretty much the same, but what the means is different for each stadium. There’s always instructions for getting to that area in the info sheet we get for each competition from DCI.
I appreciate that I am straying into dino territory, and I absolutely loved their show, but damnit if I dont question how much of what I am hearing is real and how much is produced...
@@JosephKimAudio That's just it... it was too perfect. No knock on you pal, you were just doing your job and by all accounts you did your job well... I just wonder how much tech help the line got.
@@conordreiss1467 I know he does that’s why I said lul, it’s just an under appreciated job so by making a joke maybe I could bring some attention to that.
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Under appreciated job, you guys do some serious good work for the corps, fantastic season to the Bluecoats!
Thank you, all credit to the phenomenal members who let us do the job and make it so enjoyable!
Damn. Flo Marching does not do you guys justice. I got to see the show live in Murfreesboro (7/29) and the soundscape was immaculate. Easily my favorite show of the year. The way everything was mixed, from the voice-over, to the keytar, to the hornline and pit, it blended so incredibly well. It truly was my favorite show to see live, and I got to see the top 8. Huge props to you and the rest of the audio people who work basically behind the scenes!
Thanks, that's very kind of you to say!
@@JosephKimAudio you're welcome! It brings me such emotions of awe seeing all of the parts come together so perfectly, especially in person. I love how you guys build the sonic foundations of these shows. Can't wait for next season!
Who are you giving a thumbs up to at 3:45?? 😍😍😍 he’s so dreamy🤤🤤
🚨🚨🚨safesport safesport safesport 🚨🚨🚨
Incredible! back in my day we had a couple of speakers, probably a cheap QSC amp, a Mackie12 channel mixer and maybe a synth and an upright bass mic hooked up to it. Technology is amazing these days! I went on to work for a couple Pro Audio companies so I've seen some of the evolution from then to now. I love that it is allowed in DCI and incorporated. I think we had an electric guitar one field show season in the 90's and they almost didn't allow it.
Definitely a big step up!!!
my first time seeing an audio engineer view point
Most goated audio team
🐐timpani player
my dream job right there. just aged out and I'm finishing my audio engineering degree this spring. hoping to be with a corps next summer
Congratulations! Best of luck
Hi Doug
@@GabeSalad hi gabe
I was at this show dci annapolis you guys were awesome
Thanks!
easily the best bluecoats headcam
Thanks, but all the performer headcams are so much better!!!
Just out of curiosity, what all goes into the audio design on and off the field for a performance? Great work btw
How is *this* one of the most fun cams i've seen... good stuff man, y'all aren't appreciated.
Thanks!
What happened at prelims?
Thanks for this, very cool!
You wild for this one Joseph
Clearly my best and most interesting work in the activity
I'm curious what sounds are running through what appear to be monitors mounted to those speaker stacks?
They're vertical steering arrays, so they can control the placement of the speaker for full coverage in the stands. I would presume that it's the same audio coming thru the mains.
@@tylertravaglio8877 Thanks! They mentioned that in one of their setup videos I watched after this. :)
I see a couple helix antennas and a couple LPDA’s. Can you say if the antennas are transmitting as well as receiving? And if so, do you need an FCC license?
The antennae on my cart are Rx for all of our wireless transmitters. The dome/helical antenna on the mixer cart is Tx for in-ear monitors.
So were you controlling the ethereal sounding audio before the show starts at 5:28? Never could get a clean sample of it. Interesting seeing all of this behind the scenes!
Not exactly, we talk the synths through the sound check procedure when we’re ready to ensure everything is working as it should!
@@JosephKimAudio Ah, nice--makes sense that the ones utilizing the speakers the most would be responsible for the sound checks. I wonder; what are the radar dish looking things attached to the corners of the cart for?
@@jburbygo antennae (helical and paddle) for the wireless voices
@@jburbygo expensive :)
So, what exactly do you do during a performance besides check if the signal is good?
I help direct the on/off the field process and help troubleshoot as needed. Most of the RF engineer’s job takes place before the show in frequency coordination.
The job you can't age out of
I technically aged out with this job hahaha
@@JosephKimAudio I mean yes technically but really you can still go back and do it
How do you get this job? What training/degree do you have and how much does it pay? (If at all)
Luckily, as the activity progresses, more and more corps are starting to post job listings as needed for audio engineers/interns. So keep your eyes peeled for those! I just asked a lot of questions and poked around for opportunities. This was actually my first foray into live audio, but I have a degree in electrical engineering with a minor in music, and my academic/research focus in graduate school is on audio signal processing.
I couldn't help but notice the only cords were to the speakers and the soundboard cart. are all key boards individually wireless mics? and how often do you have one go haywire? if that does happen how do you get it back online?
Good questions! Long story short, those two cable snakes coming from the RF cart contain everything we need to communicate with the front ensemble/speakers. 25-pin DTR connectors send signals to the speakers, and CAT5 cables transmit/receive everything through digital audio (REAC). All of the keyboards are connected through analog CAT5 snakes to the synth carts which send REAC signals to us. The left side also supplies power, and we have a couple more short CAT5 and power cables to connect the RF and mixer carts. The keyboards are definitely NOT wireless.
There should be a bunch of captions explaining lighting what is going on in the video. I have no clue I'm just watching adjusting
Happy to answer any questions!
@@JosephKimAudio I think it would be cool for you to upload a second video type of commentary over this one explaining what you're doing.. just a thought 🤷♂️
@@anthonyhalstead3925 Maybe when I have the time, it's a good idea though!
JOSEPH! good shit dude
Do you have to pay tuition like everyone else or do you get paid?
It’s a staff position so we don’t pay tuition
Damn.....
I help make sure my HS audio setup works, but our setup is plebeian compared to y'alls. We've got 5 marimbas and 4 vibes, all with mics. The marimbas get 2 AT2035s, and the Vibes only get 1. We've got only 4 QLXD wireless channels running into a set of Shure Fins, and 4 AT2035 stage mics for the winds. 3 Rode NTG 2s for features, and 5 Synths- a DTX12, MODX8, Motif XF6 and Motif XS7 (iirc). Then an old Malletkat (we tried the Pearl EM1 Malletstation last year, but the wind kept triggering it and creating phantom presses) running into a Mac mini running mainstage. The synths run into a Tio1608d, which sends the signals to the TF5 running the show over Dante- with the exception of the Mac Mini, which sends audio via Dante VSC.
Then our drumset has 7 mics (2 overheads, kick drum mic, snare mic, 3 mics on the toms) running into an old 01V96 V2. Then we've only got 2 speaker carts- each with a huge Yamaha subwoofer, and a large Yamaha speaker.
If I've mixed on Yamaha TF and CL gear, worked with Dante setups (am L1 certified but planning to go to L3 when I have free time) and ran audio for a marching band, what other skills should i pick up to get a chance to work audio for a DCI corp?
Sounds like a great setup! And it seems you have a lot of skills already. It's always great to have experience as a drum corps member as well if you haven't done that already - living and working on the road on the DCI tour is an entire skillset unto itself and having that knowledge is extremely important. You could have all the skills and experience in the world when it comes to audio but if you don't know how to take care of yourself through the physical and mental rigor of the road you're not gonna be much help.
@@JosephKimAudio Also- a little sidenote. Why do y'all use the Roland M5000C? I get that it has a ton of channels and is really configurable, but wouldn't the CL or Rivage line offer more flexibility and modularity, more capability, and just have a wider install base and thus greater familiarity? Or a console from DigiCo or Solid State Logic.
All of them seem to be largely superior to the Roland, but since I cannot find much info on the M5000C I'm a little curious why y'all use it (it's literally not even listed on Roland's website either).
9:50 haha the judge is wearing an oversized sombrero
How do you manage to land a job like this? I love drum corps but I’m not good enough to perform at this level and this seems like a good way to still be part of it!
How old are you? Try out for a smaller corps like Jersey Surf and march with them for a year if you can to get a bit of experience.
Waiting for the metronome tech head cam video.
As former team hands, that would be awesome!!!
So I see a mixer board on the cart to your right of course controlling levels but what do you I guess do? Because your cart doesn’t have a mixer on it so is it just a plug-in cart sorta thing or what? Whatever it is, it’s sweet! Our band only uses a mixer and not whatever your using! Keep doing gods work! 6 words baby!
Among other things, the cart I was on housed all of the RF units, and most of my job during the show was to monitor our wireless channels.
@@JosephKimAudio Thats sick! Love seeing the behind the scenes of the show!!
Where's the bluecoats 2022 audience headcam
That’s just called watching the show
what do the clear things on either side of your stand do?
Curious - How many wireless signals to you have in total?
We had 32 available wireless channels, and we were using all of them at various points throughout the season
@@JosephKimAudio that seems tedious lol
@@jordanmiller1759 It definitely made coordinating a little difficult at times! It's a lot to keep track of at the very least
@@JosephKimAudio yeah i bet. I played guitar for 1 movement in my hs show and it didn’t work for 2 comps. We definitely needed someone like you to figure that stuff out lol.
How do you guys mix to where it sounds good from the stands while being at field level and all speakers being at a really weird location relative to you?
Fantastic question! Most every competition venue has a designated area for a corps' sound engineer up in the box near the judges. With the Bluecoats, we would have a member of the staff up in that area with a microphone that allows them to talk to us directly through our in-ear monitors. That way, while we were mixing the show, we could get real time feedback from a set of ears in the box for any adjustments we needed to make.
@@JosephKimAudio Thats cool to know! Is it roughly in the same spot at every show or does it vary a good bit from stadium to stadium?
@@dizdawgjr34 Pretty much the same, but what the means is different for each stadium. There’s always instructions for getting to that area in the info sheet we get for each competition from DCI.
Wha was with the booin at 2:29
I’m not sure, I didn’t think we were that bad!
Who was performing at the beginning of the video?
The Cadets
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I appreciate that I am straying into dino territory, and I absolutely loved their show, but damnit if I dont question how much of what I am hearing is real and how much is produced...
Ill interpret that as the sound being well balanced and take it as a compliment!
@@JosephKimAudio That's just it... it was too perfect. No knock on you pal, you were just doing your job and by all accounts you did your job well... I just wonder how much tech help the line got.
@@definitelynotcainan3353 okay
@@definitelynotcainan3353 And I'm sure the Bluecoats hornline would take that as a compliment
Do you start camp the same time as the rest of the corp?
Yep!
how do I get on the audio crew for the '23 season?
Look around for opportunities, grow your skill set, and be willing to learn!
Who que’s the voice lines
I think you missed a note
Audio team sucks
This looks like hell idk how you do it
By staying in school!!!
Bro what’s next, an audience member head cam? Lul.
What you’re describing is just an unauthorized recording of the show
You’re talking like he doesn’t have a major role in the show lmao
@@conordreiss1467 I know he does that’s why I said lul, it’s just an under appreciated job so by making a joke maybe I could bring some attention to that.