Apologies for render glitches! Animations had to be rendered at a different frame rate to the rest of the footage to prevent my pc crashing. + Rushed turn around times Thanks for the feedback and your keen eyes 👍 Hope you're all still enjoying the series
Is there a possibility of rearranging the dota playlist so its chronological? Its not overly important but it urks me when i set the playlist to go in the background and its in reverse release order
@@raymondjohnson1824 Agreed, mostly when they start referencing the points they brought up in the previous episode of the series which plays next in the playlist
I'm surprised this sort of thing doesn't happen more often, to be honest! I'm already tired of editing and I only have 3 tracks to do (2 audio, 1 video) with minimal overlays etc and all I'm doing is cutting bits and pieces with fades like babbies first video project! When you've got audio-syncing and multiple overlays and video feeds and voice inputs and whatever else... the time it takes to edit one of these bad boys let alone render one would shock a shit tonne of people. Keep up the good work, honestly! Always impressed what people who actually know how to edit can achieve.
--Specifically for anyone who cares in regards to the editing issues, what likely happened is that the editing track that contains the "small skeletons" with the map etc. seems to be occuring slightly early which means that when going from big to small you get double and when going from small to big you have a second or so with no skeletons at all! This also means that the audio to mouth movement during small is off by the exact same amount and notice how when they are big skeletons the audio tracking is synced correctly.
It's been two weeks and so I just want two remind you what a great comment this is. Edit: I have realized my mistake and it will remain as a tribute to the Gibbon.
That Leshrac missing the stun on a stationary ulting CM at 14:47 was beyond bad. Edit: bit further in and this Lesh is the most infuriatingly awful player I've ever seen.
When they started talking about how DotA first started by taking everything but the Hero part out, all I could think about is how original Keeper of the Light was all about dominating an army of Jungle creeps you had to micro around and if you weren't doing that you'd get added to the Host Bot's ban list.
I think what the casters kinda missed is that the AOE damage from Ember , Lesh and Phoenix is actually not what you need against Meepo. You need focused damage, like Finger or Laguna blade. Jugg is also terrible against Meepo , as opposed to literally any other carry. I am assuming Wyvern was probably banned because only a madman/woman will pick Meepo with Wyvern still available.
i would argue jugg and ember ar both really good against meepo spin stops net plus with shard and malestrom jug can burst mepo down ember is good because meepo lets him have multiple tragest for his w to proc malestrom phonex is decent with aoe attack slow and sunbeam doing a lot of heal to sustain through meepos burst and lesh is good becuse you have a nice aoe stun with shard and your ult does a lot of dmg plus once you get bkb plus eternal should you just out life steall the dmg , there's multiple ways to deal with meepo aoe is decent if you can burts him down like a earth shake or even qop with shard plus its scurb dota no one really looks at pick plus meepo could of been last pick
@@andrewgilmour3104 a PA with BKB is better than a Jugg whose ultimate really suffers against Meepo. just the spell resistance of spin does not offset the disadvantage for me.
Aoe stuns are what you want and each of the heroes does present something good against Meepo. Ember gets to have more dodge uptime, because all the Meepo's prolong his jump, meaning he is attacked less and gets to use more spells. Root is decent, since it's at least 2 Meepos locked down. Lesh has great aoe lockdown, especially with the shard. Phoenix has god-like Meepo control with the fire spirits and it's also a natural vessel buyer. I don't think anyone's acting like this team is the perfect Meepo counter, but it sure isn't bad against Meepo, either. Jug is shit, tho. Just throw in a Troll to survive the burst, blind all the Meepos and go hard on one.
I saw phoenix nightstalker on the same team and cringed. Phoenix ult cancels nightstalker ult during the duration of the phoenix ult. Very anti synergy
I love getting a scythe whenever there’s a phoenix in the game. Just instant hex them when they do their Icarus dive or whatever and they’re caught in the middle of the enemy team.
This CMs build hurt so bad to see. Aghs + Kaya "makes sense" as a damage amp to her ulti since she was getting them off for free, but Shard + BKB would have done more damage for less gold! With Aghs & Kaya (6250 gold) she gets: 8% Spell Amp & 1x frostbite on enemies that stay inside the ulti. With BKB & Shard (5450 gold) she gets: 20% more explosions from her ulti. When you run the math out on it (Including level 20 & 25 talents for +50 explosion damage & + 1.25s frostbite duration) you get: A&K: ~4800 base "ult" * 1.2 (20 talent) * 1.08 (kaya) + 4.25 * 100 * 1.08 = 6220.8 + 459 on any targets that sit inside ult for 1.75 seconds. BKB&S: ~ 4800 base * 1.2 (shard) * 1.2 (20 talent) = 6912 In order for CMs build to be better she would need 1.5 heroes to get frostbitten every ult. I'm also not adding in the damage she'd get from being able to use her Q/W during ultimate, which can more or less render any advantage from aghs moot. Plus with BKB that's immunity to 2/4 of radiant's stuns (NS/LS) which would net her longer ultimates. Folks, don't fall for the bait that is CM aghs. Just get shard, it's 1/3 of the price and you can still get that sick frostbite + freezing field combo guaranteed!
maybe in low rank pub games they max frost nova. Ever watch divine and higher ranks everyone maxes Frost bite. THat is one reason cm is so broke and high in the meta cause of Frostbite. As a ancient 4 player myself, i see all the way up to legend max frost bite. Pretty much can own almost anylane if cm maxes frost bite. trust me i know. Frost bite = strongest harrass in a lane pretty much. Also good for killing blinkers like am and void. Frost nova = no kills.
The euls precast is actually a top tip. I've been using it for a long time now and coupled with good vision it essentially nullifies a lot of heroes that wanna jump straight into people. You will get reported for scripting, tho, because people at lower ranks don't understand how it works.
daf and ember's hero damage was inflated since there was 5 meepos eating all the aoe damage especially since that player clumped their meepos together. conversely the nightstalker doesnt have aoe so he had the lowest damage
every time i see meepo i wish they'd buff him somehow. But hes super easy to make OP if you leave his ult as is. I wonder how he'd be if they changed it to do heavy damage to the other Meepos if one dies, but he has less stats to be shared n whatnot. Put a moderate CD on a reviving meepo (30s each?). Obviously, the deaths can chain if theyre alll low
the phoenix laser wasn't appearing to do much, I don't know why Pyrion was so hefty on Daf using it. it didn't appear to be doing enough percentage to actually be worth effectively stunning yourself for several seconds for.
Laser is pretty bad until it's maxed and you have some proper gear, especially after the nerf a few patches ago. Also he shouldn't have maxed Icarus dive 2nd.
One of the things Pyrion didn't mention is that the damage (as well as the healing, which phoenix laser does to allies) increases over the duration, meaning that starting off the laser early and keeping it on someone is an essential part of using the spell. Done this way, the laser is one of the highest damage-dealing abilities in the entire game (as well as heals).
Yep, I practically main Phoenix and it's so strong, especially against big chonky heroes because its %dmg. Seeing a W, Q Prio build is painful. Max Spirits 1st and Beam 2nd, with just the 1 point in Dive as your 2nd talent. This isn't a particularly nice team setup to go against because of that meepo (and CM when she gets attack speed talent) but a competent Phoenix can absolutely carry games simply playing as a 4 OR a 5. If you get a nice farm, you can get a heart and spend half the time lategame just healing your team for free whenever they take dmg, its super fun.
Pyrion Eblade changed recipe's it's not as good as it was for meepo becaus that stats don't help him. Well saving a clone from phys dmg still works but I think it's mostly bought for the stats.
its pretty cringe when people are dumb enough to call elon musk an idiot lol. u dont have to like him but come on. i find its the same people that blindly listen to whatever they read on the internet
Apologies for render glitches!
Animations had to be rendered at a different frame rate to the rest of the footage to prevent my pc crashing. + Rushed turn around times
Thanks for the feedback and your keen eyes 👍
Hope you're all still enjoying the series
Is there a possibility of rearranging the dota playlist so its chronological? Its not overly important but it urks me when i set the playlist to go in the background and its in reverse release order
@@raymondjohnson1824 Agreed, mostly when they start referencing the points they brought up in the previous episode of the series which plays next in the playlist
Thanks for your hard work, Joe! I can relate to these issues for sure!
I'm surprised this sort of thing doesn't happen more often, to be honest! I'm already tired of editing and I only have 3 tracks to do (2 audio, 1 video) with minimal overlays etc and all I'm doing is cutting bits and pieces with fades like babbies first video project!
When you've got audio-syncing and multiple overlays and video feeds and voice inputs and whatever else... the time it takes to edit one of these bad boys let alone render one would shock a shit tonne of people.
Keep up the good work, honestly! Always impressed what people who actually know how to edit can achieve.
its okay i use this as a podcast
Leshrac: an anagram of Charles is just, *chefs kiss*
Glad to have the big man Pyrion back again.
It's now watchable again
Pyrion is a MUST have
I enjoy the angry old man yells at bird with Lewis
--Specifically for anyone who cares in regards to the editing issues, what likely happened is that the editing track that contains the "small skeletons" with the map etc. seems to be occuring slightly early which means that when going from big to small you get double and when going from small to big you have a second or so with no skeletons at all! This also means that the audio to mouth movement during small is off by the exact same amount and notice how when they are big skeletons the audio tracking is synced correctly.
It's a Bird... It's a Plane... It's a winged Gibbon on Fire!
Hate the game, love the videos. Keep it up!
It's been two weeks and so I just want two remind you what a great comment this is.
Edit: I have realized my mistake and it will remain as a tribute to the Gibbon.
"Leshrac, an anagram of Charles."
Thanks Joe, thanks for these important details.
That Leshrac missing the stun on a stationary ulting CM at 14:47 was beyond bad.
Edit: bit further in and this Lesh is the most infuriatingly awful player I've ever seen.
When they started talking about how DotA first started by taking everything but the Hero part out, all I could think about is how original Keeper of the Light was all about dominating an army of Jungle creeps you had to micro around and if you weren't doing that you'd get added to the Host Bot's ban list.
I am Jug! Gernau(gh)t and I have the balls!
I think what the casters kinda missed is that the AOE damage from Ember , Lesh and Phoenix is actually not what you need against Meepo. You need focused damage, like Finger or Laguna blade. Jugg is also terrible against Meepo , as opposed to literally any other carry. I am assuming Wyvern was probably banned because only a madman/woman will pick Meepo with Wyvern still available.
i would argue jugg and ember ar both really good against meepo spin stops net plus with shard and malestrom jug can burst mepo down ember is good because meepo lets him have multiple tragest for his w to proc malestrom phonex is decent with aoe attack slow and sunbeam doing a lot of heal to sustain through meepos burst and lesh is good becuse you have a nice aoe stun with shard and your ult does a lot of dmg plus once you get bkb plus eternal should you just out life steall the dmg , there's multiple ways to deal with meepo aoe is decent if you can burts him down like a earth shake or even qop with shard plus its scurb dota no one really looks at pick plus meepo could of been last pick
@@andrewgilmour3104 a PA with BKB is better than a Jugg whose ultimate really suffers against Meepo. just the spell resistance of spin does not offset the disadvantage for me.
Aoe stuns are what you want and each of the heroes does present something good against Meepo.
Ember gets to have more dodge uptime, because all the Meepo's prolong his jump, meaning he is attacked less and gets to use more spells. Root is decent, since it's at least 2 Meepos locked down.
Lesh has great aoe lockdown, especially with the shard.
Phoenix has god-like Meepo control with the fire spirits and it's also a natural vessel buyer.
I don't think anyone's acting like this team is the perfect Meepo counter, but it sure isn't bad against Meepo, either.
Jug is shit, tho. Just throw in a Troll to survive the burst, blind all the Meepos and go hard on one.
"Get out of my head, Leshrac!" - Magneto.
I saw phoenix nightstalker on the same team and cringed. Phoenix ult cancels nightstalker ult during the duration of the phoenix ult. Very anti synergy
I remember watching this live and being apprehensive about that particular... anti-combo
I love getting a scythe whenever there’s a phoenix in the game. Just instant hex them when they do their Icarus dive or whatever and they’re caught in the middle of the enemy team.
That moment pyrion talks about being flamed for not buying a BKB MUST not go unacknowledged
22:47 When me and my pals walk into the pub
What a refresher after the Arlington Major
Oh no, Daf gave us hope in this one, which means he's going to let us down in the next one...
This CMs build hurt so bad to see. Aghs + Kaya "makes sense" as a damage amp to her ulti since she was getting them off for free, but Shard + BKB would have done more damage for less gold!
With Aghs & Kaya (6250 gold) she gets:
8% Spell Amp & 1x frostbite on enemies that stay inside the ulti.
With BKB & Shard (5450 gold) she gets:
20% more explosions from her ulti.
When you run the math out on it (Including level 20 & 25 talents for +50 explosion damage & + 1.25s frostbite duration) you get:
A&K: ~4800 base "ult" * 1.2 (20 talent) * 1.08 (kaya) + 4.25 * 100 * 1.08 = 6220.8 + 459 on any targets that sit inside ult for 1.75 seconds.
BKB&S: ~ 4800 base * 1.2 (shard) * 1.2 (20 talent) = 6912
In order for CMs build to be better she would need 1.5 heroes to get frostbitten every ult. I'm also not adding in the damage she'd get from being able to use her Q/W during ultimate, which can more or less render any advantage from aghs moot. Plus with BKB that's immunity to 2/4 of radiant's stuns (NS/LS) which would net her longer ultimates. Folks, don't fall for the bait that is CM aghs. Just get shard, it's 1/3 of the price and you can still get that sick frostbite + freezing field combo guaranteed!
The audio seems desynced from the video at some points?
EDIT: And there are double skeleton lads quite a lot whenever a size transition happens
Doctor Octagonapus, BLARGH!
I loved the "lacks coherency" edit
I like the hero descriptions
juggernaut is literally have a name : fu**ing dogs
My weekly dose of schadenfreude
Joe great editing
maybe in low rank pub games they max frost nova. Ever watch divine and higher ranks everyone maxes Frost bite. THat is one reason cm is so broke and high in the meta cause of Frostbite. As a ancient 4 player myself, i see all the way up to legend max frost bite. Pretty much can own almost anylane if cm maxes frost bite. trust me i know. Frost bite = strongest harrass in a lane pretty much. Also good for killing blinkers like am and void. Frost nova = no kills.
Wow 16,000 views in one day? That's not bad at all; glad the series is popular!
Wait a second, Daff got to Guardian? Good for him!
Egg, glad to have you back!
I am insanely happy, scrub dota just after getting into dota. Hook it into my veins
Didn't know the frontman of popular band Arctic Monkeys, Alex Turner, played DOTA at the herald level.
Ahhh my favorite duo back
"42 Seconds ago", when you know you like this content too much. Thanks as always!
LESHRAC IS AN ANAGRAM OF CHARLES I can never play this hero again without staring at his name, you've broken lesh for me Joe
Our heroes are back!!!
The euls precast is actually a top tip. I've been using it for a long time now and coupled with good vision it essentially nullifies a lot of heroes that wanna jump straight into people.
You will get reported for scripting, tho, because people at lower ranks don't understand how it works.
Love it, great job boys
Double Pyrions
Thanks Joe
Lewis’ mic sounds like he’s on the toilet lol
daf and ember's hero damage was inflated since there was 5 meepos eating all the aoe damage especially since that player clumped their meepos together. conversely the nightstalker doesnt have aoe so he had the lowest damage
Is anyone else not sure what a BKB is but too afraid to ask at this point
Welcome back
Great vid, some weird editing mistakes but still good dotas vid.
Can you pleasee bring back your hearts of iron 4 series
yesssssssssssssssssssssssss pyrions back
Lewis starts any comment about warcraft 3 the same and i sometimes feel as if I'm watching a previous video accidentally
oof, that healing on a hero with heal. never a good sign.
Awesome to see another game cast by Lewis and Pyrion, didn't get through more than a few minutes of any of the last few videos
every time i see meepo i wish they'd buff him somehow. But hes super easy to make OP if you leave his ult as is.
I wonder how he'd be if they changed it to do heavy damage to the other Meepos if one dies, but he has less stats to be shared n whatnot. Put a moderate CD on a reviving meepo (30s each?). Obviously, the deaths can chain if theyre alll low
the phoenix laser wasn't appearing to do much, I don't know why Pyrion was so hefty on Daf using it. it didn't appear to be doing enough percentage to actually be worth effectively stunning yourself for several seconds for.
Laser is pretty bad until it's maxed and you have some proper gear, especially after the nerf a few patches ago. Also he shouldn't have maxed Icarus dive 2nd.
One of the things Pyrion didn't mention is that the damage (as well as the healing, which phoenix laser does to allies) increases over the duration, meaning that starting off the laser early and keeping it on someone is an essential part of using the spell. Done this way, the laser is one of the highest damage-dealing abilities in the entire game (as well as heals).
Yep, I practically main Phoenix and it's so strong, especially against big chonky heroes because its %dmg. Seeing a W, Q Prio build is painful.
Max Spirits 1st and Beam 2nd, with just the 1 point in Dive as your 2nd talent. This isn't a particularly nice team setup to go against because of that meepo (and CM when she gets attack speed talent) but a competent Phoenix can absolutely carry games simply playing as a 4 OR a 5. If you get a nice farm, you can get a heart and spend half the time lategame just healing your team for free whenever they take dmg, its super fun.
DADDY IS BACK!!!!!
Finally we have Lewis and Pyrion back together. The other pairings lacked a certain charm that only Angry Dad and Lebanese Child can replicate.
I started playing Dota 2. Seems like a slow game. There are so many buttons too! I haven't seen any toxicity yet :)
Pyrion Eblade changed recipe's it's not as good as it was for meepo becaus that stats don't help him. Well saving a clone from phys dmg still works but I think it's mostly bought for the stats.
dota 2 bio says phoenix is the son of suns, not a she
All I know about Dota2 is always buy a BKB XD
What a truly awful game : )
its pretty cringe when people are dumb enough to call elon musk an idiot lol. u dont have to like him but come on. i find its the same people that blindly listen to whatever they read on the internet