1990 vintage Marin mountain bike restored to perfection

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2023
  • Another charity retrobike giveaway, thanks to another generous donor for what has become a truly stunning example of a 1990 Marin Palisades.
    As with many of the charity projects on this channel, this restoration is going to the charity bike shop in Chorlton, Manchester, UK, to be sold off for the Cyclists Fighting Cancer charity. Thanks as always to donors, viewers and subscribers for the continued support.
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  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was like a freshman in high school in 1988. I had never heard of mountain biking back then living in hick town, USA
    I had a 24" tired BMX bike that I rode on trails that we made in the woods on our farm a long with jumps and holes to ride in. I had to fill in the holes and level everything out when I graduated from high school.

  • @Papieck37
    @Papieck37 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    As a late 70s Kid, MTB was so much pure in the late 80s 90s compare to what the sport has gone these days... Back in the Day the sport was about exploring and having a blast with friends...... Today, the sport has gone "sour" and became a race of Who has the most expensive equipment posible... Ohhh how I miss the 80s and 90s MTB era!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I must agree that a lot of the ultra-expensive technology today leaves me cold. I just don't find electronic shifting or super-complex damping particularly desirable. I definitely do more adventure riding than trail riding, which means my carbon full-sussers tend to get left hanging while I ride steel or ti hardtails.

    • @LaurentiusTriarius
      @LaurentiusTriarius 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To me it's still the same as when I sold my BMX and harassed my parents to help me get a GT Tequesta (immensely expensive to me as a kid in 1992) I mostly ride alone and I don't give any Fks about other people's bike I'm just enjoying the modern full squish and lack of chainslap...
      I still have & maintain all my old bikes (except the Tequesta and one other) but when I ride them the nostalgia last about 20 minutes 😂
      Anyway what I wanted to say is that it was already a game of newest and greatest back in the 1990's it was always like that to me.

  • @jonmiller4330
    @jonmiller4330 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The red stumpjumper seen in so many shots needs its own video. That is a thing of rare and true beauty.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks, nice idea! It's been featured in a few but never had its own story - and it's been part of my bike history since '99 when I built it from a brand new frame. I'll have a think about a video for it. By the way, it's an S-Works M4 not a Stumpjumper - they trickled down the M4 tubeset to Stumpjumpers a year or two later when M5 came out. I had the S-Works M5 too but killed it - that's another long story... Stay tuned and thanks for watching.

  • @ianralph3734
    @ianralph3734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very nice. This bike makes me emotional too -- I worked for three weeks washing dishes in 1990 to buy this exact bike, on a Saturday. Started sixth form on the Monday, and on Wednesday some bastard nicked it. Cut through two locks and moved away three mates' bikes to get to it. I'd never cried so much in my life.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I hate hearing such tales, I can only hope the thief has since met a grisly end. They deserve nothing less.

    • @ianralph3734
      @ianralph3734 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@red_dread -- the only upside is that with the insurance money I was able to buy a Saracen Trekker with double U-brakes.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ianralph3734Not a bad compensation. You may have seen I have one too!

  • @jhipi205
    @jhipi205 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Absolutely love your channel. Don’t ever stop.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for your kind words. Although my projects and films are sometimes weeks or months apart, I have no intention of stopping!

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fantastic video, thank you.
    In 1990 I had a Kona Fire Mountain, which was built up from a brand new frame and parts. Mavic ceramic rims, etc great times.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those Mavic ceramic rims were so cool, I never had any back in the day so I don't know whether or not they had any actual functional benefits but as far as jewellery goes, you couldn't get much more desirable.

  • @djrichylaurence8991
    @djrichylaurence8991 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mate of mine had one back in the day. Tough old bike it was.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can confirm. This one feels bombproof. Someone's going to end up with a very special bike.

  • @randyandjody
    @randyandjody 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice work, looks great!

  • @MrByrneyboy
    @MrByrneyboy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great vid as always and nice bike. Top marks for being allowed to use the kitchen sink for cleaning parts😂

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the cleanest this sink gets.

  • @saipuakivikaupias
    @saipuakivikaupias 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a beauty!

  • @davidhagerty4625
    @davidhagerty4625 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool bike. Got identical....upgraded a tiny bit but just new cabling. £40 from Facebook

  • @tonypotter9578
    @tonypotter9578 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work for a worthy cause!

  • @wherehumanscycle9859
    @wherehumanscycle9859 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad the shifter worked out nicely 👏👏👏

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ended up being much simpler than anticipated. If you want yours doing, I can do it in seconds!

  • @jacobf4702
    @jacobf4702 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was given a 1989 Diamondback Ascent EX with the same spec as this about 15 years ago. It got ragged as a commuter then gave it a similar treatment to this in lockdown. Kept mostly original except the bar and tyres (previous guy fitted a bull bar which was not the one)(tyres were shot so fitted schwalbe Billy Bonkers tan walls). Both Mountain LX shifters had sheared but bodged it with super glue, will defo try this technique when they eventually go again.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have never owned a Diamondback but the Ascent EX is the one I had circled on a page of MBUK as my target for saving up. I endorse the Billy Bonkers, great upgrade for restoring MTBs of this vintage, makes them faster too. As for those shifters, I'm loving hearing all the stories of everyone's Mountain LX shifters having broken in exactly the same way. Still yet to hear of a single one that is still intact! Shimano were hoping we'd forgotten...

  • @Oooo-bi7bi
    @Oooo-bi7bi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It looks great

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, I knew this one would be a beauty under all the grime and cobwebs.

  • @chrisleech333
    @chrisleech333 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've restored a 1995 Marin indian fire trail. It was rough as anything when I bought it but now it looks like new

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice. Another piece of history kept alive.

  • @theretrobikeshed3392
    @theretrobikeshed3392 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another fantastic video buddy…. Theres always been something about the early 90s marins i have always had a passion for 👍👌

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, same here. Can't believe it's taken me this long to feature one. Would still love to get my hands on a Zolatone one, although restoring that paint finish would be well beyond my capabilities.

  • @jeremynorth
    @jeremynorth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've shared your video to my fellow volunteers and staff at the Cheltenham CFC. If ever you'r down our way please pop in and say hello. I liked your reference to Chateau Yquem by the way, classy!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, I would love that! I'm a big fan of the Chorlton shop, was in there only yesterday and I've more builds coming their way. Would love to get to know your shop too, if I'm ever down that way. As for the white wine vinegar, one has to use what one has to hand. The Aile d'Argent has run out, so we make do.

    • @jeremynorth
      @jeremynorth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love coincidences. I was born at our home 32a Manchester Road which is just a few yards away from the Chorlton shop. We moved away from Manchester when I was very young blah blah and I ended up in Cheltenham 40 years ago. I found CFC and started giving them bikes and parts then became a volunteer in summer 2022 and love it, working on bikes and the great people. I wish we had more donors like you who fix the bikes first but I think I've found my raison d'être. As it happens I've a French friend who lives just next to Chateau Yquem, his dad was one of the viniculteurs! The only Rothschild wine I've had was Lafite which was sublime@@red_dread

  • @timnewland4186
    @timnewland4186 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loving your lingo as much as I love your passion for these classic beauties. 😊

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks - there are loads of channels on here that do restorations without commentary, but there's no way I could stop talking for any such length of time.

  • @1brokenspoke189
    @1brokenspoke189 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first proper Mtb was a Marin Palisades it was about 1993 i think and it was a lovely matt black with white lettering STX brakes, and gears ,Araya rims and a Marin finishing kit . It cost £550 and was money well spent . I did manage to crack the headtube during a crash and Marin replaced it under warranty only for it to be stolen during a house break in . I did find it about 6 months later at a car boot sale but she was in a sorry state with scratched paint and rusty chain.bent bars ripped seat and a big grind mark on the bb shell where the frame number used to be . I could not convince the seller it was my bike and he told me to clear off . I hope she went to a good home .

  • @user-vu2fd3en4z
    @user-vu2fd3en4z 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i've fixed so many frozen indexed shifters I just have to chime in. when your 20 year old shifter shrts, but doesnt stay in the new gear....the pall that holds the new gear in place has rusted to the pin it rides on. Just like Grandpas old diagonal cutters you found in the bottom of the toolbox that are rusted nearly solid, all you have to do is drip oil into the joint and let the oil soak in. Or drop the whole assembly into a cup filled with oil. Let it soak overnight if you have to. Remove the pliers and muscle the arms apart! . Then the oil will have broken through some of the rust. Then muscle the arms the other way. re-oil the joint and continue to move the arms back and forth. Do the same with the pall in the shifter and after 20 or 30 reps of pushing the pin back and forth the pall will liven back up right quick! Then your back in the race!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love fixing things like shifters. These particular ones index with a sprung plate with a "dial" of holes in and out of which a tiny ball bearing pops. But the early STI ones you're talking about with the pawls and ratchets do indeed respond well to a good old soak in a light lube. I have an M900 XTR one right now that's in need of such a treatment. I think the previous owner used a lube or grease that was too thick and it's gummed up the mechanism. Dare I just blast it with a hairdryer? That would be the lazy but risky option!

    • @user-vu2fd3en4z
      @user-vu2fd3en4z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@red_dread no...just push it back and forth 30 times to grind the rust out and it will be fine

  • @diamondmine67
    @diamondmine67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am not sure if I commented on the last one, but I will this time. I see you have a little vise. Get it locked down somewhere good and clamp the bottom bracket cup lip into the vise. Turn the bike frame, it creates plenty of leverage, works quite well.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The vice question has come up a lot since that last project. It's true that a bench vice can often be the ultimate solution, but only if its jaws have good sharp, scrupulously clean edges - because the engagement faces on these BB cups are very shallow so if the thing is seized then whatever tool you're using will usually pop off before the threads give way. In the case of the Raleigh, a proper solid bench vice probably would have worked eventually, but the little yellow one you've seen me using is far too lightweight and flexy (it's for precision work). On the Marin I probably could have got the cup out with more ease, but thankfully the bearing surface and seal were immaculate so I didn't need to.

    • @diamondmine67
      @diamondmine67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@red_dread my heart is at peace, you are an informed mechanic from all us genisues in your comments

  • @JDWLW0
    @JDWLW0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bike came out looking fantastic. This time period is probably my favourite for MTBs. The very early 90s when everything was evolving so quickly. Beautiful colours on these Marins. Fantastic stuff!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All thanks to that mysterious wealthy benefactor.

  • @christianluff
    @christianluff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ahhhh, a bank holiday bonanza release. I tried watching in the background earlier but this level of nerdyness deserves undivided attention. Let me cancel my plans with the in-laws tomorrow and I’ll sit down to watch this properly. Top notch as always, sir.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's some pretty high levels of nerdiness in this one, especially the shifter fix. I'm particularly pleased with that bit.

  • @jgambo1974
    @jgambo1974 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the Mountain LX groupset on my 2x 1989 Giant Sierra's (with U Brake Rear) thumb shifters failed on mine also, currently have Suntour Pro shifters and some lovely old DiaCompe brake levers on the one bike, the rest of the Mountain LX kit was brilliant and over the past few years i've done a few 40k-50k rides and not missed a beat. I've never seen Mountain LX hubs, always seem to be Exage, both mine have Araya Rims too. This is without a doubt my fave era of cycles. Also had a bike with that Exage Country groupset (MBK Aventure) was a joy to use and now I think they look better than ever.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yet another tale of Mountain LX shifters failing in exactly the same way! No wonder the name was discontinued so rapidly, Shimano must have been embarrassed. Well now you know how easy it is to fix, unless yours have already gone in the bin? Anyway, yes the rest of the groupset is solid and still very desirable. Did you see the MBK Aventure I did a while ago with Exage Country on it? For some reason it had an alloy Exage Mountain U-brake which was an unexpected bonus.

    • @74leogambo
      @74leogambo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@red_dread I didn't see the MBK video 😳 but will be now, loving your work sir. Mine had the same U brake. I remember it being a very heavy bike as a kid with the noisiest chunky tyres ever, altho I wish I'd kept it now for the fantastic colour scheme

  • @andyhorton9732
    @andyhorton9732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just want to say how much I enjoy your videos. A good mix of detail and humour. I have a nice (not as nice as yours) stable of retro MTBs and so your content is mega relatable. Thank you!!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks very much. I love to hear that these old MTBs are being cherished and preserved!

  • @simonsmith2794
    @simonsmith2794 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another one saved ❤ , great job on the shifters btw

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks, yes I'm delighted to have solved the Mountain LX problem. There are thousands of those shifters, all with exactly the same fault, languishing in bins all over the world. I hope now they can be resurrected with their new improved cyborg body parts.

  • @teddysimavari2612
    @teddysimavari2612 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love these videos, keep em coming. Always a joy watching the restoration. I own a 1992 Marin team issue and I love it but these early nineties mid range models are just that bit better.
    Your video has now inspired me to look for a ratty old palisades to restore, cheers.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's weird isn't it - now I have more XT and XTR-level bikes in my collection than I could count, yet I'm still magnetically drawn to those mid-range components like Exage, because that's what we coveted as kids!

  • @MatthewLister
    @MatthewLister 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hair, lawn and bike… all on point 🔥

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Back on the scene, crispy and clean

  • @theimperialangler
    @theimperialangler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have learned a few things from this video, the repair to the shifters was a really good idea. I have been using citric acid granules diluted to remove rust with really good results. The purchase of a sonic bath from Lidl is another good tool for fine cleaning some components. Look forward to seeing further episodes, I hope the bike sells well for this worthy charity.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you. I'm sure it'll sell for a decent sum, especially now it's TH-cam-famous! I'm still toying with the idea of an ultrasonic bath, they look great. Yes, I'm really pleased with the fix to the shifter - I hope others will be able to do the same and save a whole generation of Shimano thumbies from the bin.

  • @andrewmoorey556
    @andrewmoorey556 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was my first mountain bike bought in 1989. I also looked at the Kona Cindercone but this was one bought from a shop I think near Elephant & Castle. I remember how easily the paint chipped though

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a choice to have to make! I vividly remember the Cinder Cone from that year, in white with the splatter paint. The sloping top tube was such a stand-out feature at the time, it looked so cool. Was your Marin one of the Zolatone ones then? I have heard that those chipped quite easily, yes.

  • @Korina42
    @Korina42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent rebuild, as always, Mr. Dread. 👍

  • @xhuliomecani6461
    @xhuliomecani6461 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I also have a Marin Palisades trail 1991, Exage 300LX, full neon.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Neon + Exage is my jam.

  • @allyp7
    @allyp7 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    brilliant!
    i remember seeing some of the 80- 90's marins and the had a sandpaper textured paint job!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. Yes, that was the word I was looking for - the Zolatone finish really was like sandpaper, how I coveted one of those bikes. I haven't seen one recently to see what the durability was like though.

  • @jacobg1988
    @jacobg1988 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome restoration!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Apart from the shifter and a good cleanup, this one didn't require too much to make it perfect. It was already in great nick under the dirt.

  • @vr_gamers8116
    @vr_gamers8116 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice job on the restoration and well done for donating the bike to a very worthy cause. I have a Team MARIN Titanium MTB from the same era, 89-91 I believe, it's been stored in my lock up for 20 years. Initially it was stored as a favour for a friend who moved to a small flat in London, I was eventually gifted the bike around 12 years ago. I'm not a collector as such, I just love riding quality bikes and the Marin MTB's were a cut above most MTB's if not all MTB's of that era. After watching your vlog, I'll definitely be dusting it off and using it on a mini weekend adventure very soon. ATB from Scotland. Subbed 👽

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imagine getting a vintage titanium Marin as a gift! That's a result. Glad to hear you'll be giving it some good use, and even more glad to hear you've subbed. Plenty more to come.

  • @alf1982
    @alf1982 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was gifted a 1991 Pine Mountain a good 15-20 years ago. I never rode it until around 2012 when it became mu commuting bike. It's not got much left on it that's original. The frame, forks, handlebars, crank arms, pedals, brakes and shifters are all original. I've still got the old rear mech, and the old wheels. The rims are worn beyond use, but the hubs are ok. I just don't have the patience to lace some wheels.
    Unfortunately before I got it, the Marin stickers were removed and it had a bit of black paint wafted over it. The orange bits are still orange, although heavily faded from the sun.
    I retired it from commuting in 2021, and it stands in the shed waiting for me to do something with it. But I don't know what! The cheap replacement wheels on it have packed up, and I have some more to go on it, but I'd like to see it more like it was originally, complete with zolatone paint.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds like there's still a lot there worth saving! The job of restoring the Zolatone paint and decals would be beyond me, but I bet there's someone out there that could do a perfect job. And it would be well worth it.

  • @garysprojects
    @garysprojects 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    First comment!!! Yessss I finally did it 😊😊

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Spot the hidden Gary tribute in this one. You’ll get it straight away…

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@red_dread hahah was it getting rid of the dork disc?! or laying out the bolts on kitchen paper? anyways great video as always, love the shifter fix and keep slamming down those stems !!!

    • @ronwhite8503
      @ronwhite8503 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah, I was first. Don't take that away from an old git.

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronwhite8503 yep you’re right , just checked you beat me by 15 micro seconds, guess I’ll have to wait for the next video!!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The bolt layout is a must, but the real Gary moment has to be banging that stem right down. One for the headz.

  • @ep3hop740
    @ep3hop740 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I must say as been around 10 years old when that was out. My big brothers best mate had the exact bike and a was so envoys of it. Top build. I must say your correct when you say their better not been repainted. 100% agree with you on that 👏 👍

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always prefer to preserve originality rather than upgrade or “restomod”, but a lot of us on TH-cam have different styles. Monkeyshred repainted a 1990 Marin on his channel about a year ago and he did an incredible job.

  • @ellipticalsoul
    @ellipticalsoul 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad you're still uploading new projects! I only found the channel recently and really enjoyed your other projects. This bike is a real beauty, the neon fork is amazing in my opinion. My favourite bike I had was the first one I had with gears (10 speed Shimano SIS) which was neon orange.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sure there'll be plenty more, I always like to have projects on the go. Glad you like this one, I'm a sucker for neon too.

  • @johnssonnz
    @johnssonnz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great video❤

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, plenty more coming!

  • @atboy4342
    @atboy4342 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Haha knew when I saw those shifters, you were going to to have that issue. Wanted to do that exact fix like you did on some I had a while back, but didn’t have the tool bit to do the job. They ended up in shimano heaven. RIP

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's amazing isn't it - I've been finding out in the past few weeks that this fail really was completely across the board! I wonder if there's a single right hand shifter from that generation anywhere that has survived? No wonder Shimano were embarrassed and discontinued the entire Mountain LX brand so fast.

  • @DevonNroos
    @DevonNroos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Try taking bb's out first next time, you can put the bike on groun and slide a long bar over the spanner and get good leverage

  • @yorkshiremike5083
    @yorkshiremike5083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👌

  • @acelectricalsecurity
    @acelectricalsecurity 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember in 92 in Alf Jones deliberating over one of these or an alpinestars Cro mega, which I still have, I think the colours had changed then to black and a loud green.
    Good video 👍

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd definitely have gone for the Alpinestars! That's a whole other level of exotica. Alf Jones sold some amazing stuff back in the day - that's where at least one of my Cartel got his first Dyna Tech.

  • @tommyb2129
    @tommyb2129 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Completely inspired by this! One section of common nail vs 90s monkey metal!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully this technique will save an entire generation of trashed Mountain LX shifters! I personally know multiple people with broken ones in their parts bins. Spread the word…

  • @nickmetcalfe4536
    @nickmetcalfe4536 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was lucky enough to have bought an 'Eldridge' with the weird textured paint job as an upgrade from my aged and chunky Muddy Fox Courier in the early 1990's. My Saturday job wages were put to good use there. In my area, the Yorkshire dales, there were loads of Marin palisades and bear valleys. Popular bikes at the time. I had hoped to get a 'pine mountain' which I think was next up in the range? but a bit too expensive at the time :).

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I loved that textured Zolatone so much. Good use of wages indeed. The model range was packed at the time, they seemed to have a bike at every price point in about £50 increments! Muirwoods, Palisades, Eldridge, Bear Valley, Pine Mountain, plus more "Team" and ti models above that, plus I think there may have been an entry level one too. Will have to dig out the catalogue. Every one of them was so cool.

  • @glennpettersson9002
    @glennpettersson9002 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is a cool colour scheme reminiscent of Benetton jumpers back in the day, actually most things from those days 🤔

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Late 80s and early 90s neon was amazing.

  • @colincanyon2519
    @colincanyon2519 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I turned 50 this year and my earliest memory of a mountain bike was the Raleigh Bomber, was that classed as a mtb and were they even called mtbs then? 🤔
    I tinker myself and do all my own maintenance so nice to watch other people like yourself tinkering! 😎👍

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You're about the same age as several of my riding buddies - I would have been a few years below at primary school so while I remember the Bomber, I was too tiny to ride one. The little kids had Grifters and then moved onto BMX, then back onto 26" wheels by which time Raleigh had replaced the Bomber with things like Mustangs, Marauders and the like. Glad to hear you're enjoying a bit of workshop time.

    • @colincanyon2519
      @colincanyon2519 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @red_dread
      Yeah I had 2 grifters a chopper and then bmx's, I remember the bomber coming out earlier 80's, never had one myself, at the time my thinking was they looked big and cumbersome compared to the bmx 🤔
      Defo enjoying the tinkering and a trip back to the 80's and 90's, 😎👌

    • @Rob-zf2cv
      @Rob-zf2cv 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Bomber was my first recollection of an MTB ish bike too. Probably more klunker style though... Didn't it have hub gears?

  • @DevonNroos
    @DevonNroos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Try taking bb's out first next time, you can put the bike on ground and slide a pole over the spanner to get way more leverage

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Did all that in the last video, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The limiting factor with this type of fixed cup is the tiny engagement surface for the tool. Even if your tool or vice has clean, razor sharp jaws, it'll still slip before the thread gives, if the thing is seized. But I've come to the conclusion that sometimes these fixed cups can just stay fixed.

    • @benc8386
      @benc8386 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@red_dreadI still think careful welding of a lever directly onto the surface of the cup should work (and I have done this successfully myself). However just leaving the cup on is also a great idea especially for such a low mileage bike, because there's nothing wrong with it.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As I often say, “there’s always a way”… it’s just that sometimes the way is unnecessarily tiresome. Yes, in this case the fixed cup was gleaming - so let’s just leave it fixed.

  • @barrasgs393
    @barrasgs393 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great stuff! With your millions, I hope that one day you treat yourself to some torque wrenches.....

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Got loads, seldom use. As you well know, by far the most precise tool in this workshop is my mind.

  • @thecycle2worker152
    @thecycle2worker152 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d forgotten all about the sharks fin and how much faster it made your bike 😂

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can’t believe they stopped making them. I still buy them in bulk, a retro build would be naked without one.

  • @chriswiecek6519
    @chriswiecek6519 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I believe Mountain LX was only available in 1989 and replaced with Deore LX in 1990, so maybe a 1989 model? Also it looks like grey gloss paint rather than light grey Zolatone.

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re right that Mountain LX was indeed discontinued after only that one model year, I’m prepared to bet because they were embarrassed that every single thumbshifter failed in exactly the same way! I didn’t reference the catalogue or the frame number to confirm the exact date of this bike but it could have been either 89 or 90. Its new owner will easily be able to find out if they’re interested. When you get to 15:31 on this video you’ll see the explanation of the difference between this gloss paint and the matt textured Zolatone.

  • @colinmackie8857
    @colinmackie8857 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good job. Any idea how the parts that got the dremmel and autosol treatment hold up after a few months in British weather. Do they corrode or stay looking good?

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can confirm that Autosol does protect. Those dulled and corroded canti brakes for example, now they have a shiny finish, will be less permeable to water and contaminants so they'd last longer even in vile weather.

  • @GaryWoods-stunts4life
    @GaryWoods-stunts4life 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you ever restored any GT bikes, or would like to ?? . Great videos btw , keep them coming 👌

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Weirdly I have not, despite the early Zaskars having always been one of my all-time bucket list bikes. If I ever find one in the right spec I'll snap it up, or maybe even a Xizang if I'm feeling fruity.

    • @GaryWoods-stunts4life
      @GaryWoods-stunts4life 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@red_dread yes the zaskar has been one of my bucket list bikes too, I’m a trials rider, so a hans rey replica would be awesome, I brought a 90s GT outpost last year and I’m currently restoring it with a few modern bits to use a commuter, I’ve ridden 24 inch wheel bikes for quite a few years now, so riding a 26 is going to be fun lol.

  • @brrrt6666
    @brrrt6666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just scored myself a merida alta from the late 80s, full mountain lx spec, and the double butted tange mtb tubes. Going to gi e the same treatment!
    edit: was just 25€

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A hell of a result! I will be fascinated to hear if the thumbshifter has failed in exactly the same way - if not, it could be the only known survivor in existence. If so, at least now we know the way to fix it.

    • @brrrt6666
      @brrrt6666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@red_dread knowing now that the shifters can be repaired is quite the relief. I'll pick it up on Saturday and report on their condition 👍

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brrrt6666 Please do! I'd love to hear your updates, especially on those shifters...

    • @brrrt6666
      @brrrt6666 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@red_dread picked up the bike yesterday, not unlike the one in the video. Black bicycle with pink forks and rear triangle. The shifters work absolutely lovely, havent taken them apart so i cant comment on how many pins are still in place, the levers feel absolutely solid though. The whole bike is in rather nice shape with little wear on the drive train and the araya rims, came with caged and strapped tioga pedals, dual bottle cages and some rather unusal, strapped battery lights. Could'nt be more happy with the purchase, the bike is a true survivor!

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brrrt6666 If those shifters are Mountain LX, and they haven't been repaired like mine, then you might have found a true unicorn's egg!

  • @myvicariouslife4012
    @myvicariouslife4012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @7:52 I will never understand why them old skewl bb cups (fixed side) only had 2 flats...like a screw from the 1700's instead of phillips

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know - I definitely suspect the manufacturers had a "fit and forget" attitude back in the day.

  • @joehart3826
    @joehart3826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did you ever take the cup out of the BB - or did you leave it in?

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thankfully there was no need to wrestle this one out, the bearing surface and seal were immaculate so I cleaned it all up and left it fixed in place.

  • @psclassy1123
    @psclassy1123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice job / The shark fin protectors still let the chain find its way past the tire and into my soft aluminum Klein Pinacle Elite chain stay. Ouch !

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never rely on a Shark Fin to do anything except look cool. That's its only function.

    • @psclassy1123
      @psclassy1123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@red_dread Actually I bet shark fin protectors did some good if only you had a mini cam to see. You only recall the times they didnt do the job they were to do. Cant believe Im talking about it. Ha All good.

  • @kiloyardstare
    @kiloyardstare 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You didn't clean and regrease the hub bearings?

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I spent plenty of time on them, I just thought the only thing noteworthy for this film was the cassette. If you like watching hubs being done one bearing at a time, check out my Dawes, Muddy Fox and Saracen videos.

  • @myvicariouslife4012
    @myvicariouslife4012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please don't take this the wrong way but I kinda find it hard to believe no chain wear? The chain looked well soiled and quite crusty..

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was indeed both soiled and crusty. Took a hell of a lot of soaking and scrubbing to get it decent. However, the actual wear ("stretch") on it proved to be negligible - the Park Tool Chain Checker doesn't lie! This is consistent with the overall condition of this bike - it had clearly had a hard life on the farm, living in a barn and getting knocked around in storage. But the signs all around proved it had actually done very little mileage: not much tyre and brake block wear, and relatively little chainslap damage on the chainstay.

  • @andyp4420
    @andyp4420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, I have the same bike which is part restored and wondered if you would want to take it on to completion for the channel and donate to the Chorlton bike shop for charity? If so please can you get in contact. Ps. Love the channel! 👍🏻

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd certainly be interested to see it! I wonder if that thumbshifter is in need of the same fix? oliver.chesher@yahoo.co.uk

  • @GTMarmot
    @GTMarmot 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice work red. Do you (or anyone else reading this) happen to know whether shorter cranks are available for the old Shimano Biopace 5-hole ones? Direct swap-in ones, I mean? They all seem to be 170mm. Thanks

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very good question - in all the time that Biopaces were on the market I never gave a second thought to crank length. Can't remember it ever being mentioned or considered by anyone! The science of crank length is still unresolved I think - there's still opposing opinions on what's "correct".

  • @bleachlectures3973
    @bleachlectures3973 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you know your kit

    • @red_dread
      @red_dread  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That comes from a childhood of obsessively consuming mountain bike magazines. I know I'm not the only one.

  • @andyallthings
    @andyallthings 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you shoed try to find and restore a Apollo trax tr1 hall fords bike their prity raire and expensive thies days it whos buget bike Halfords uset to sell back in the 2010s

  • @optimusistheleaderoftheaut3722
    @optimusistheleaderoftheaut3722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @ronwhite8503
    @ronwhite8503 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First!

    • @garysprojects
      @garysprojects 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow

    • @ronwhite8503
      @ronwhite8503 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@garysprojectsI know. I am never early for anything.......despite what my wife says.

  • @hermannecker6257
    @hermannecker6257 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stupid to destroy Diamond in a few Winters

  • @albertm1227
    @albertm1227 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Promo sm" 💋

  • @ianralph9737
    @ianralph9737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mate, stop biting your nails, you're a grown man.