I've been running the Renogy 2000w for about 9mths, attached to a 280ah lifepo4 battery. It works great for the things I have tried and usd often 1400w airfryer, 1800w max power induction hob, 1000w kettle and 1400w toaster. I haven't had need to use it as ups. Excellent bit of kit 👍
Thanks for watching.. Funny enough that's what I'm using mine for and on. Apart from the air fryer. It's been in the van, I've had it a while. I like to own products for some time if I can before I review them. Let's me get to know them.
@@garagefaff It may be for GFI sensing...I believe Neutral and Ground aren't always tied together with a perfect connection while Ground is for surely grounded into the earth for instant current shunting
I’m guessing the US model does not have AC in. Mine is and while I was intrigued with that idea, only ac outputs. Has still been fun to play with and use.
Great review! I have searched everywhere but simply cannot find the rated current for the pass through circuit when on hookup/shorepower. I have a 1000w UPS Inverter but when on hookup, I want to be able to power devices far above 1000w. As this is simply an internal bypass relay I would assume this is no problem but again I cannot find any information on this. Appreciate any info at all on this. Thanks again!
Hi great video with no problems,I just bought a Renogy 2000 and 2 batteries 12v 100 amp hour ,but I have a problem, both charged but I turn on the inverter then as soon i turn something on the voltage drops down below 11 volts and shuts off the inverter. Can you help, I think I’m doing something wrong but don’t know what ! Thanks Gary
So one of these, a pair of LFP batteries and a charger would make a well rounded UPS system that would be small and light enough to go in the bottom of my rack. I really like the UPS function. Similar UPS's cost thousands and these inverters are $AU379. Juegint by the size of your SOK batteries, I could get away with my CALB 180 Ah cells, a 250A Daly BMS, a suitable T class fuse, and one of these, and power my network stack, modem, entertainment centre, some lamps and my gaming rig for several hours during an outage, and even run a 1200 w heater :)
Thanks for watching, yes it's brilliant. Was away on the weekend just gone in Wales in the camper. I had electric hook up at the campsite, when I disconnected the shore power it jumped over to my lithium batteries to keep the fridge going. I like the UPS function too 😁😁
Not sure if your still answering, but if it’s connected to shore power and the unit is turned off, will mains power still run through the input and output so 240v accessories can still run while plugged in, but with inverter switched off.
Have you checked for neutral _ earth bond in island ( standa lone) mode? What are your thoughts on dc negative bonded to ac neutral, to achieve proper rcd tripping loop......?
Forgive the pssible daft Q. when on shore power I connect shore power to the invertor, that automatically passes shore power to the 230v socktes and when I disconnect shore power the invertor automatically passes power to the batteries?
Yes! You got it. It seems to work, I used that old Sony TV to prove it switches between one to the other without upsetting the output of the inverter. I actually have this inverter in my camper. I have it wired just like this.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris Top vid! Does yours still work okay? I ask because a couple of other videos' comments claimed that theirs only last a short time after the warranty, with no support thereafter.
I run a 700w microwave with this inverter (2000W) and 1 206ah SOK battery without any problems. I think it would work with an 800w microwave without any problems. Make sure you size your cables and use appropriate size fuses. I have a 200A terminal fuse on my battery.
Wont having 2 X 100-120amp batteries which have a BMS in each battery suffer from the ping pong effect people talk about where the BMS from each will shut down when pushing something like 1800W? Most have a surge amp rating at 100amp peak per 100-120ah lithium?? Looking at this renogy 2000w and wondering if I made the right choice having 2 seperate lithiums at ,120ah each as opposed to buying one 200amp lithium which runs one BMS.. ADVICE appreciated..
I don't see how you are doing the UPS function. I zoomed into the product picture on the Renogy website and I didn't see a male C14 connector by the Renogy logo that you pulled the AC cable out. Is that a special version of the 2000W because the picture doesn't show anything to plug in AC power into it.
Hello, thanks for watching. No it's not one of there specials products. I'm in the UK. I think models can vary from around the world as we have different voltages and Hz's. I've not really looked at the US model.
Would you still need 2 batteries if you don't envisage pulling anymore than 1000 watts? Wanting to future proof my system while I wait to save for 2nd battery and what not.
Hi! Wondering if I could hook this inverter up to a single 200Ah LifePO4 battery? Should this give me any issues (other than the obvious of my battery depleting in an hour of course) Thanks!
Thanks for watching. Yes! Check the BMS on the lithium battery can handle 200amps. As this inverter at full chat can pull some amps! Even tho a battery can pull good amps. It's always good for a battery to half it's amps with another battery in parallel. Maybe two 100amp batteries. Causes internal stress/ excess resistance, shortens the battery life.
I've not looked at the specs of the 200ah Renogy battery. There BMS may only support up to 100amps. Which means you need another 200ah renogy battery. Not all 200ah battery manufactures put in a 200amp BMS. Hope that helps.
Thanks for watching. Hard wire for the high voltage side, no it has not. I suspect they don't do this for safety. People with no electrical experience faf about with these units. From the 3 pin you would wire to your consumer unit.
@@sun-sea-solar it's hard wired on the 12v side. Just not the main voltage side for Europe. I suspect it's because we are 230v, as is 110v for the US.. 230v kills where 110v don't.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris Hi there Chris, as per your comment above, is it deemed acceptable/okay (and safe) to wire from the 3 pin outlet of this inverter into an off grid consumer unit? I need to power a single wired light and 2 UK sockets (in one series) in my off grid office and would like to do this. Though because I have not seen anyone do this online I'm unsure if it is okay to do so. Many thanks!
Hello, power saving mode as in it goes to sleep if no current is being drawn. This unit doesn't have this feature. No I've not used the unit with this feature. Thanks.
Thanks for watching. You can get inverters which will do this. Renogy inverters are meant for cabins and camper vans. UPS is normally batteries take over from a failed AC, like hospitals, banks and airports. It's the right way round.
I also would want it the other way around, Surely that IS the way it is supposed to work. On Renogys Site if you go to the 3000w Invertor it does say the following 'The AC priority switch function enables the inverter automatically switch from the battery (DC) to the mains (AC) and vice-vercer whenever the utility company takes/loses power!' But this is still very vague I want the Solar DC as priority and AC as a backup
@@jimmybrad156 Thankyou Jimmy. Will take a look into them. It was a bit frustrating as the Renogy discription wasn't great and a bit confusing I have since bought a Jackery 500 for other stuff Im doing which are great for outdoor living .
Hello, no I don't think so. If it senses mains power. It will choose that first. There is no option to use the battery first. There are inverters on the market which will do this though I believe.
hello, you will generally need two batteries. Depends on the manufacture of the battery. Some let you pull 200amps, others 100amps. The 2000watt inverter pulls more towards 200amps.
If u have 1 battery and a 2000w...really depends on how may things u are running..and ro pay attention to your watts on appliances..I have a 3000w..works fine on 1 battery have a small set up..small fridge small oven small tv
Thanks I’m looking at getting a single 280ah batteries with max discharge of 200ah and use with this inverter do you think this would be suitable BTW great video 😊
That a Roamer battery?? Yes, that inverter should be fine on that battery. As I always say, always good not to run these things on their fullest. At 80% is good.
Would have been great to see the UPS function tested with an actual sensitive device such as a computer. Each to their own but I'd rather my tv turn off unexpected rather than my computer considering the risk of data loss and corruption. Thanks for sharing
You should be running a UPS backup to start with. As these condition the voltage to remain stable when switching to backup power outage..Why I have 1500 APC backup plugged into these types of inverters for Computer, Monitors, TV..
@@MasterChief4U I'm well aware of the specifications of a UPS however the content in question can mislead viewers into believing that an inverter will provide the same functionality as a UPS. Good on you for having a UPS but most people would not realise that a UPS is approximately 30 milliseconds quicker than an inverter when switching between AC and DC. Cheers
@@cyclemoto8744 You're not switching from AC-DC.. It's always AC even if the Utilities goes out without an inverter. The real issue is Bonding and Grounding. Use the wrong inverter. It doesn't matter. As grounding the unit to the Chassis is still a floating ground. Which is what ruins Computers and electronic devices..You need a real inverter\transfer switch that changes to bonding when the power is switched from Shore to Battery as the source. Why I suggest people always install a GFCI breaker.
Nice video, just got this model for my van. I notice that you have 2 positive leads going out, one to each battery; is this for a more efficient current draw? I have 2 batteries in parallel also, but was just going to do a single positive.
The Renogy Inverters ship with 2x Parallel cables for Positive and Negative. So that you can bend these around a little easier..On the up side. Parallel cables are more efficient in voltage loses. As it gives the current more surface area to use. As current flows on the surface of the wire. Called the skin effect.
Could you let me know how long your battery’s would last with a continuous output of 1000w? and have you considered using the bigger renogy wave battery?
Do you use a pre-charge resistor or do you just connect the Renogy inverter directly to the batteries? I think it would be better if they could have made it so that it works off batteries/solar until they are depleted and then works off mains until the battery is charged fully rather than the other way around. Do you know how long it can use peak power before cutting out?
I did not use a resistor to charge the capacitors in the inverter for my demo. Your talking about a different type of inverter. You need the all in one inverter/mppt. This is just a simple inverter 12v to 230v with a UPS as a bonus. It looks like it will run at peak power until the batteries do the disconnect.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris you don't need an all in one. the mppt solar charge controller and inverter can be separate units. i don't know if the same is true of pwm charge controllers or not though.
Great video, just a quick question to the community, any one has experience with a single battery like the Epoch 12.8V 460Ah and Renogy 200W? Does a single battery work in that case? (battery specs: Max continuous 200A, Max discharge peak 400A, Ah Capacity 460). I am looking to give our trailer some full off grid capability - No Bo 10.7
Thanks for the review. Very in depth. Just wondering if and how you have fused the inverter. I have one here to install but unsure how to fuse. Was thinking of buying a 250 amp mega fuse and holder. Thanks
There's a good chance that it the inverter has its own fuse built-in. Would be surprised if not. But yes, need a fuse right on the battery, with the battery contact covered up.
Hi Chris. Really enjoyed your informative video about the renegy 2000watt inverter. Quick question if you don't mind. Do the fans only make a loud noise under a large load? If for example I was just running a small fridge over night would the fan kick in or would the inverter be silent. Thanks Jonathan
I found the inverter only fired the fans up if it was under load. On my cool garage I found the fans did not come on much, but in my camper a little bit more being in the cupboard with the water heater. But generally running a small fridge, not that much I would say. Depends what model you are running maybe. 1k, 2k or 3k watt model.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris Thanks for that info. The inverter I was going to get was the 2000 watt. The highest power items would only a 1000watt microwave and 1200watt hairdryer. Both only for short periods. My other question was would it be OK to use one 200ah lithium battery?
@@jonathanmujahed9936 200ah battery would be good. Just check the BMS on the battery it can do the 200amp draw. I know some 200ah batteries only have a 100amp max draw and the BMS does a disconnect. What battery you using? Just remember the inverter uses 1.5amps I think it is just being in not doing anything. So over night it would have done 15ah of your 200ah battery. All inverters are the same. Something to consider and be aware of. So 12v compressor fridges avoid this and stay DC.. I use my 2000watt for the air frier and single induction hob.. Something to think about to stay off the gas! A meal on the induction hob to cook would take 10% off the battery..
Actually I've just checked and renegy do a 200ah with a bms that guarantees that power so reckon that's a better one to go with? Only a bit more expensive.
Thanks for the video review. I have a couple of question please. I just bought this inveter from eBay. As soon as I turned on, I could hear the fan's sound started about a second or so then it (fan) shut off. Is this normal or do I get a defective one? How many watts of power draw before the fan started kicking in?
Make sure that your battery can provide enough current: 2000 W / 12V = 167 Amps, to handle the peak 4000 W, your battery needs to provide 333 Amps. Don't plug anything in at first Put a voltmeter on the battery side to see what is happening there. If the voltage drops a lot, that could be the issue. A "12 Volt" battery can go from 11 to 13.8 Volts. Your battery should read over 12 V unloaded. Make sure it's fully charged.
Why does the amount of batteries matter? surely it depends on the spec/capacity of the battery? Surely One lithium battery over 200ah for example, will handle that inverter without breaking a sweat, even with a higher than 2000w start up draw.
Because some batteries only have a 100amp draw. Even if a battery is rated to 200amps, it can create stress to the cells. Lowing the cycle life of the battery in capacity.
Hi Chris, I plan on having a similar setup in my shed, I just wondered is it possible to have a 15 metre extension lead running from this type of inverter? and is grounding necessary on these also?
A wonderful transformer and an interesting explanation..Is it possible to get a 3000W transformer from 12V to 230-240V (60Hz) and where is this transformer made..Thank you.
Not too sure about 60hz, but the units are sold in countries which match there local power grid I've noticed. They are an American company I believe, units made in China I think. Like most things.
Hi Chris. A great demo. I have a van with a modified sign wave inverter installed. It was in it when I bought it. However I used the microwave and it hummed a lot and not knowing, the microwave Megatron burnt out when using it after 8 min. I bought a new MW and not risking it cooking this one. I'm thinking of getting the 2000w unit PSW to replace it. Any problems you foresee?
Should be good. You could check the microwave on a current tester to make sure its under the 2000w, which I'm sure it is. I have the 2000watt inverter in my camper. Boils water and cook on it off my lithium batteries. Just make sure you have good batteries, fair few amps are drawn 😁
Lot of inverters have problem handling inductive load. Please check with the manufacturer if running a microwave will be an issue. There are some TH-cam videos showing what happens to the AC waveforms of the inverter when you try to power up a motor.
Depends on the BMS specs.. some allow for a 3k watt inverter.. or some only allow a 2k watt inverter. It's all about the battery discharge rating. So it's hard, as manufacturers differ so much!
Hi Chris, nice review and just to ask what would happen if there was only limited shore power as per many campsites. Would the inverter adjust accordingly and supply additional power or would it just simply shut the shore power off. Thoughts appreciated.
Thanks for watching.. I don't know, I think its one or the other. As I can hear what sounds like a relay inside click. I think if it detects nothing on the shore power it will just click over. Not a complement the shore power. I would raise the question though with Renogy customer service to be sure!
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris thanks. I was in France last year and a german motorhome had a set up that allowed them to set the draw from the EHU so that it didnt trip and any load above that was supplemented by the inverter. I did try renogy but the reply wasn't positive.
Had me spooked for a minute there because I only have one 300ah battery (Fogstar Drift). I just checked the spec though and it supports 200a discharge, with a 300a max. I was also wondering why the box had two sets of cables, but this explains it, one per battery. Strange though, if you watch older videos, the cables have one end, but split into two cables in the middle, so it had me wondering for a while. I'm still feeling like I should be putting a 250a ANL fuse in though somewhere. Need to research this one more.
Yes a fuse is wise. Also use both cables to the single frogstar always good for the current draw. 200ah is a fair amount. I want to look at their battery.
You don't need 2 batteries to run this... you need 1 x 12V battery that has at least a 200A continuous discharge current... your battery has a 130A continuous discharge current which is very low for a 200AH battery.
What the guy didn't tell you is that this invertor ups steals power from your battery, even though it's still connected to the grid. I haven't had solar for a week due to cloudy week. And this inverter drained my battery to death.
Renogy can not sell a remote for this unit. Be aware, get the remote with this unit or you will have to look for an after market. This is something that Renogy doesn’t suggest but that’s about all you can do.
What a strange opening statement, you can get away with one battery depending on the batt Ah and your BMS if your draw passes through the BMS, use your BMS for charging not outlet. I run a inverter charger on 1 lifpo4 12v 560ah, no problem at all, my batt alarm is set when 80% charge is consumed but never happens
What you are doing is not advised for the style of batteries I am using. It requires modification to the battery itself, you are by passing a safety feature. I would never recommend this to anyone. So I would say this is not a strange statement to make. If the battery drops below 10v it would damage the cells. I was using £1950 worth of batteries from SOK, this is the fastest way to damage them. It would also remove the warranty from the battery as the manufacturer would not approve.
With 10+ years of service and many 1000'ss of cycles they eventually start to pay them self's off! Compared to lead they are 1/3 of the weight, half the size and you can use the full capacity of the battery.
This unit does not have UPS capability, does not come with a power cord, does not have an a/c power in, does not charge the battery etc. Unfortunately, I learned the hard way after relying on this video and ordered this unit and now I have to pay for return shipping. I called Renogy and they confirmed all of this for me. I suggest you do the same before purchasing one relying on this. They do make an inverter charger, which is a different model and twice the price.
You clearly didn’t buy the right one as mine came with everything needed other than the battery charger. Cause it’s not a battery charger it’s an inverter. The problem is yourself not the inverter
The incredibly stupid design of the mounting feet on these things almost makes the whole device worthless. There's not enough clearance to get a screwdriver past the -'ve terminal onto the screw, to drive it in. The 1000W model i have is even worse, where the +'ve terminal also obstructs access to the other screw. It's just infuriating. You end up having to take the feet off the goddamned inverter, mount the feet onto whatever platform or wall you're fixing to, and then mount the inverter back onto the feet and hope the screws line up. All they had to do was make the feet a little bigger, with the mounting screw a bit further out. But no...
I've been running the Renogy 2000w for about 9mths, attached to a 280ah lifepo4 battery. It works great for the things I have tried and usd often 1400w airfryer, 1800w max power induction hob, 1000w kettle and 1400w toaster. I haven't had need to use it as ups.
Excellent bit of kit 👍
Thanks for watching.. Funny enough that's what I'm using mine for and on. Apart from the air fryer. It's been in the van, I've had it a while. I like to own products for some time if I can before I review them. Let's me get to know them.
What have you done about the earth/ ground on it? It has one on the case but its not clear from Renogy’s instructions what the function of it is?
@@garagefaff It may be for GFI sensing...I believe Neutral and Ground aren't always tied together with a perfect connection while Ground is for surely grounded into the earth for instant current shunting
So 2000w on a single battery? this is the exact setup I'm looking at the battery has a 200amp constant discharge. Have you had any issues since?
Good review, was unclear exactly how the UPS system worked until you clarified it.
If the bms can do 200A 1 battery should work. Only should draw 166A at 2000w
I’m guessing the US model does not have AC in. Mine is and while I was intrigued with that idea, only ac outputs. Has still been fun to play with and use.
Great review! I have searched everywhere but simply cannot find the rated current for the pass through circuit when on hookup/shorepower. I have a 1000w UPS Inverter but when on hookup, I want to be able to power devices far above 1000w. As this is simply an internal bypass relay I would assume this is no problem but again I cannot find any information on this. Appreciate any info at all on this. Thanks again!
Hi great video with no problems,I just bought a Renogy 2000 and 2 batteries 12v 100 amp hour ,but I have a problem, both charged but I turn on the inverter then as soon i turn something on the voltage drops down below 11 volts and shuts off the inverter. Can you help, I think I’m doing something wrong but don’t know what !
Thanks
Gary
So one of these, a pair of LFP batteries and a charger would make a well rounded UPS system that would be small and light enough to go in the bottom of my rack. I really like the UPS function. Similar UPS's cost thousands and these inverters are $AU379. Juegint by the size of your SOK batteries, I could get away with my CALB 180 Ah cells, a 250A Daly BMS, a suitable T class fuse, and one of these, and power my network stack, modem, entertainment centre, some lamps and my gaming rig for several hours during an outage, and even run a 1200 w heater :)
Thanks for watching, yes it's brilliant. Was away on the weekend just gone in Wales in the camper. I had electric hook up at the campsite, when I disconnected the shore power it jumped over to my lithium batteries to keep the fridge going. I like the UPS function too 😁😁
I would be looking to wire one of these inverters to a consumer box. However, the outlet looks like its just a plug ??
Yes, plug to the consumer unit. I've done just that to a camper.. can be done.
Very clear video and review just what I was looking for thanks
Thank you, I did try.
Not sure if your still answering, but if it’s connected to shore power and the unit is turned off, will mains power still run through the input and output so 240v accessories can still run while plugged in, but with inverter switched off.
Errrr I cannot remember.. truth be told. I think it does.. I can check if you like. I have a 3k model on my bench.
Have you checked for neutral _ earth bond in island ( standa lone) mode?
What are your thoughts on dc negative bonded to ac neutral, to achieve proper rcd tripping loop......?
Does this Inverter when plugged into AC charge the batteries when its doing the bypass?
Na, it's not a charger. Sorry.
Forgive the pssible daft Q. when on shore power I connect shore power to the invertor, that automatically passes shore power to the 230v socktes and when I disconnect shore power the invertor automatically passes power to the batteries?
Yes! You got it. It seems to work, I used that old Sony TV to prove it switches between one to the other without upsetting the output of the inverter. I actually have this inverter in my camper. I have it wired just like this.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris
Good stuff. Next purchase on the way!
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris Top vid! Does yours still work okay? I ask because a couple of other videos' comments claimed that theirs only last a short time after the warranty, with no support thereafter.
The fuse and holder popped out of mine, it's disappeared and I've no idea what to replace the parts with, does anyone have a photo of these parts?
I just ordered the 2000w, and it does not have any AC input.
does it automatically switch back to dc power when available?
Yes it does. As most these have Shore power or Battery power priority. You pick the one you want to run..
The wires that come with the inverter do they both go to the batterys ??
Yes, they do
🤔 So does the 30amp plug charge my battery or batteries or just disconnect from the battery/ies
The unit does not charge the batteries.
Length of the battery cables?
Can I use this inverter in a car with just the one battery to run a 800w microwave
I run a 700w microwave with this inverter (2000W) and 1 206ah SOK battery without any problems. I think it would work with an 800w microwave without any problems. Make sure you size your cables and use appropriate size fuses. I have a 200A terminal fuse on my battery.
Wont having 2 X 100-120amp batteries which have a BMS in each battery suffer from the ping pong effect people talk about where the BMS from each will shut down when pushing something like 1800W? Most have a surge amp rating at 100amp peak per 100-120ah lithium??
Looking at this renogy 2000w and wondering if I made the right choice having 2 seperate lithiums at ,120ah each as opposed to buying one 200amp lithium which runs one BMS.. ADVICE appreciated..
That's fine.. It's how Renogy recommends doing it which your battery cannot pull 200 amps.
No
I don't see how you are doing the UPS function. I zoomed into the product picture on the Renogy website and I didn't see a male C14 connector by the Renogy logo that you pulled the AC cable out. Is that a special version of the 2000W because the picture doesn't show anything to plug in AC power into it.
Hello, thanks for watching. No it's not one of there specials products. I'm in the UK. I think models can vary from around the world as we have different voltages and Hz's. I've not really looked at the US model.
Very neat setup!
I want use 200ah Lifepo4 12v with the lcd screen...It pushes 2560 watts...Should I use 2500 watt Inverter🤔
Are these inverters compatible for use with solar panels?
Would you still need 2 batteries if you don't envisage pulling anymore than 1000 watts? Wanting to future proof my system while I wait to save for 2nd battery and what not.
As long as you don't pull over 1000kw you can use one battery. Your BMS may trip or burn out if you pull more depending on the BMS.
quick question i just got the 3000 watt one taday i have one battery but its a FOGSTAR DRIFT 560 AH lithium , is that ok ?
I trust you found it worked just fine
Just to be clear if you and 2 batteries together does it double the BMS too ??
Yes, if I understand you correctly..
Hi! Wondering if I could hook this inverter up to a single 200Ah LifePO4 battery? Should this give me any issues (other than the obvious of my battery depleting in an hour of course) Thanks!
Thanks for watching. Yes! Check the BMS on the lithium battery can handle 200amps. As this inverter at full chat can pull some amps! Even tho a battery can pull good amps. It's always good for a battery to half it's amps with another battery in parallel. Maybe two 100amp batteries. Causes internal stress/ excess resistance, shortens the battery life.
so i have purchased a 200ah renogy lithium battery. surely that one battery would be enough to support the 2000w inverter?
I've not looked at the specs of the 200ah Renogy battery. There BMS may only support up to 100amps. Which means you need another 200ah renogy battery. Not all 200ah battery manufactures put in a 200amp BMS. Hope that helps.
I've had a look it allows a max of 200a discharge current. 👍
@@ianhaughey oh that's good 😁, I shall remember that. Yeah you just need the one battery.
Can no one read. Every time I watch videos on renogy products it’s always renology now he’s here with reonogy.
Hahaha.. Americans cannot say Aluminium right too 😁😁, jokes. Long as you know what I mean.
Does it have a hardwire option on the front
Thanks for watching. Hard wire for the high voltage side, no it has not. I suspect they don't do this for safety. People with no electrical experience faf about with these units. From the 3 pin you would wire to your consumer unit.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris strange because I've seen the connection on other videos on the front of the unit. On the 2000 and 3000 watt version.
@@sun-sea-solar it's hard wired on the 12v side. Just not the main voltage side for Europe. I suspect it's because we are 230v, as is 110v for the US.. 230v kills where 110v don't.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris Hi there Chris, as per your comment above, is it deemed acceptable/okay (and safe) to wire from the 3 pin outlet of this inverter into an off grid consumer unit? I need to power a single wired light and 2 UK sockets (in one series) in my off grid office and would like to do this. Though because I have not seen anyone do this online I'm unsure if it is okay to do so. Many thanks!
this model doesnt have the power saving capability? or does it? have you used the one that has the power saver mode?
Hello, power saving mode as in it goes to sleep if no current is being drawn. This unit doesn't have this feature. No I've not used the unit with this feature. Thanks.
Hi Chris, thanks for the informative video. Did you measure the standby (turned on without a load) current of the inverter?
Yes, it's 1.3amps.
The UPS function seems the wrong way round to me, I would want AC power to kick in if the batteries run too low.
Thanks for watching. You can get inverters which will do this. Renogy inverters are meant for cabins and camper vans. UPS is normally batteries take over from a failed AC, like hospitals, banks and airports. It's the right way round.
I also would want it the other way around, Surely that IS the way it is supposed to work.
On Renogys Site if you go to the 3000w Invertor it does say the following 'The AC priority switch function enables the inverter automatically switch from the battery (DC) to the mains (AC) and vice-vercer whenever the utility company takes/loses power!' But this is still very vague
I want the Solar DC as priority and AC as a backup
@@Geoff247 Pretty sure MPP Solar have several all-in-one charger/inverter/solar-mppt units that lets you specify supply priority.
@@jimmybrad156 Thankyou Jimmy. Will take a look into them. It was a bit frustrating as the Renogy discription wasn't great and a bit confusing
I have since bought a Jackery 500 for other stuff Im doing which are great for outdoor living .
0:45 ...''in case you don't have your glasses on....'' LOL
How do you get on with earthing this for the 240side of things
Can I use a 12v 200ah lithium PO4 battery instead
Yeah, long as the BMS/cells can take 200amps.. Be in the battery spec. Some only take 100amps. Which is why I said two batteries.
Great review thank you :)
If you have one 12v 200ah can you run this renogy 2000w inverter
Yes, as long as your BMS on your battery can handle 200amps. Take it you have a lithium. You have not given me much to go on.
Great review thanks
With 2 batteries fully charged how much power would you get from this setup?
What size batteries?
Can these inverters work on opposite to UPS i.e When battery runs flat then it switches to mains?
Hello, no I don't think so. If it senses mains power. It will choose that first. There is no option to use the battery first. There are inverters on the market which will do this though I believe.
Quick question, how many 12v batteries can you connect to the Renogy 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter? I'm thinking of getting one..
hello, you will generally need two batteries. Depends on the manufacture of the battery. Some let you pull 200amps, others 100amps. The 2000watt inverter pulls more towards 200amps.
If u have 1 battery and a 2000w...really depends on how may things u are running..and ro pay attention to your watts on appliances..I have a 3000w..works fine on 1 battery have a small set up..small fridge small oven small tv
Thanks I’m looking at getting a single 280ah batteries with max discharge of 200ah and use with this inverter do you think this would be suitable
BTW great video 😊
That a Roamer battery?? Yes, that inverter should be fine on that battery. As I always say, always good not to run these things on their fullest. At 80% is good.
Would have been great to see the UPS function tested with an actual sensitive device such as a computer. Each to their own but I'd rather my tv turn off unexpected rather than my computer considering the risk of data loss and corruption. Thanks for sharing
You should be running a UPS backup to start with. As these condition the voltage to remain stable when switching to backup power outage..Why I have 1500 APC backup plugged into these types of inverters for Computer, Monitors, TV..
@@MasterChief4U I'm well aware of the specifications of a UPS however the content in question can mislead viewers into believing that an inverter will provide the same functionality as a UPS. Good on you for having a UPS but most people would not realise that a UPS is approximately 30 milliseconds quicker than an inverter when switching between AC and DC. Cheers
@@cyclemoto8744 You're not switching from AC-DC.. It's always AC even if the Utilities goes out without an inverter.
The real issue is Bonding and Grounding. Use the wrong inverter. It doesn't matter. As grounding the unit to the Chassis is still a floating ground. Which is what ruins Computers and electronic devices..You need a real inverter\transfer switch that changes to bonding when the power is switched from Shore to Battery as the source.
Why I suggest people always install a GFCI breaker.
@@MasterChief4U I was referring to the switching between a DC power source and the AC grid.
@@cyclemoto8744 So was I.. As you need a proper Inverter\charger\transfer switch that can handle the Bonding\Grounding change needed when switching..
Nice video, just got this model for my van. I notice that you have 2 positive leads going out, one to each battery; is this for a more efficient current draw? I have 2 batteries in parallel also, but was just going to do a single positive.
The Renogy Inverters ship with 2x Parallel cables for Positive and Negative. So that you can bend these around a little easier..On the up side. Parallel cables are more efficient in voltage loses. As it gives the current more surface area to use. As current flows on the surface of the wire. Called the skin effect.
Is there 8000 watt Renogy inverter
Think, 3k is their highest. If it's that high in watts. It would be 48v input.
Yes inverter 🔋⚡🔌💡👍
Could you let me know how long your battery’s would last with a continuous output of 1000w? and have you considered using the bigger renogy wave battery?
Approx 2 hrs
Do you use a pre-charge resistor or do you just connect the Renogy inverter directly to the batteries? I think it would be better if they could have made it so that it works off batteries/solar until they are depleted and then works off mains until the battery is charged fully rather than the other way around. Do you know how long it can use peak power before cutting out?
I did not use a resistor to charge the capacitors in the inverter for my demo. Your talking about a different type of inverter. You need the all in one inverter/mppt. This is just a simple inverter 12v to 230v with a UPS as a bonus. It looks like it will run at peak power until the batteries do the disconnect.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris you don't need an all in one. the mppt solar charge controller and inverter can be separate units. i don't know if the same is true of pwm charge controllers or not though.
Great video, just a quick question to the community, any one has experience with a single battery like the Epoch 12.8V 460Ah and Renogy 200W? Does a single battery work in that case?
(battery specs: Max continuous 200A, Max discharge peak 400A, Ah Capacity 460). I am looking to give our trailer some full off grid capability - No Bo 10.7
Thanks for the review. Very in depth.
Just wondering if and how you have fused the inverter. I have one here to install but unsure how to fuse. Was thinking of buying a 250 amp mega fuse and holder.
Thanks
Hello, yes, in my campervan I have a 250amp fuse. On my video I did not bother.
There's a good chance that it the inverter has its own fuse built-in. Would be surprised if not.
But yes, need a fuse right on the battery, with the battery contact covered up.
Is this pure sine wave
Hello, yes. I put it on my meter to show the wave. The wave also stays true when the inverter is under full load.
Hi Chris. Really enjoyed your informative video about the renegy 2000watt inverter. Quick question if you don't mind. Do the fans only make a loud noise under a large load? If for example I was just running a small fridge over night would the fan kick in or would the inverter be silent. Thanks
Jonathan
I found the inverter only fired the fans up if it was under load. On my cool garage I found the fans did not come on much, but in my camper a little bit more being in the cupboard with the water heater. But generally running a small fridge, not that much I would say. Depends what model you are running maybe. 1k, 2k or 3k watt model.
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris
Thanks for that info. The inverter I was going to get was the 2000 watt. The highest power items would only a 1000watt microwave and 1200watt hairdryer. Both only for short periods. My other question was would it be OK to use one 200ah lithium battery?
@@jonathanmujahed9936 200ah battery would be good. Just check the BMS on the battery it can do the 200amp draw. I know some 200ah batteries only have a 100amp max draw and the BMS does a disconnect. What battery you using? Just remember the inverter uses 1.5amps I think it is just being in not doing anything. So over night it would have done 15ah of your 200ah battery. All inverters are the same. Something to consider and be aware of. So 12v compressor fridges avoid this and stay DC.. I use my 2000watt for the air frier and single induction hob.. Something to think about to stay off the gas! A meal on the induction hob to cook would take 10% off the battery..
Actually I've just checked and renegy do a 200ah with a bms that guarantees that power so reckon that's a better one to go with? Only a bit more expensive.
@@jonathanmujahed9936 I've never poked about with the Renogy 200ah battery. Good that it can do 200amps 😁, enjoy 😁😁
Nice review chris
Thanks for the video review. I have a couple of question please. I just bought this inveter from eBay. As soon as I turned on, I could hear the fan's sound started about a second or so then it (fan) shut off. Is this normal or do I get a defective one? How many watts of power draw before the fan started kicking in?
Make sure that your battery can provide enough current: 2000 W / 12V = 167 Amps, to handle the peak 4000 W, your battery needs to provide 333 Amps.
Don't plug anything in at first
Put a voltmeter on the battery side to see what is happening there. If the voltage drops a lot, that could be the issue. A "12 Volt" battery can go from 11 to 13.8 Volts. Your battery should read over 12 V unloaded. Make sure it's fully charged.
Why does the amount of batteries matter? surely it depends on the spec/capacity of the battery? Surely One lithium battery over 200ah for example, will handle that inverter without breaking a sweat, even with a higher than 2000w start up draw.
Because some batteries only have a 100amp draw. Even if a battery is rated to 200amps, it can create stress to the cells. Lowing the cycle life of the battery in capacity.
Many thanks great review
Your welcome
Hi Chris, I plan on having a similar setup in my shed, I just wondered is it possible to have a 15 metre extension lead running from this type of inverter? and is grounding necessary on these also?
Hello, yes a 15m lead should be fine on the outlet. I always recommend running such a unit through a consumer unit. Not many people do I don't think
Awesome, thanks for reply
A wonderful transformer and an interesting explanation..Is it possible to get a 3000W transformer from 12V to 230-240V (60Hz) and where is this transformer made..Thank you.
Not too sure about 60hz, but the units are sold in countries which match there local power grid I've noticed. They are an American company I believe, units made in China I think. Like most things.
Hi Chris Thanks for great review, it covered all the questions I had, except for does it charge the batteries when AC power is connected?
Hello, no it don't charge the batteries.. Renogy do sell an inverter which also charges the batteries. Bit of a step up on price though.
Hi Chris. A great demo. I have a van with a modified sign wave inverter installed. It was in it when I bought it. However I used the microwave and it hummed a lot and not knowing, the microwave Megatron burnt out when using it after 8 min. I bought a new MW and not risking it cooking this one. I'm thinking of getting the 2000w unit PSW to replace it. Any problems you foresee?
Should be good. You could check the microwave on a current tester to make sure its under the 2000w, which I'm sure it is. I have the 2000watt inverter in my camper. Boils water and cook on it off my lithium batteries. Just make sure you have good batteries, fair few amps are drawn 😁
Lot of inverters have problem handling inductive load. Please check with the manufacturer if running a microwave will be an issue. There are some TH-cam videos showing what happens to the AC waveforms of the inverter when you try to power up a motor.
So you can simply use a single 3000AH lithium battery, you must have two?
Depends on the BMS specs.. some allow for a 3k watt inverter.. or some only allow a 2k watt inverter. It's all about the battery discharge rating. So it's hard, as manufacturers differ so much!
Hi Chris, nice review and just to ask what would happen if there was only limited shore power as per many campsites. Would the inverter adjust accordingly and supply additional power or would it just simply shut the shore power off. Thoughts appreciated.
Thanks for watching.. I don't know, I think its one or the other. As I can hear what sounds like a relay inside click. I think if it detects nothing on the shore power it will just click over. Not a complement the shore power. I would raise the question though with Renogy customer service to be sure!
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris thanks. I was in France last year and a german motorhome had a set up that allowed them to set the draw from the EHU so that it didnt trip and any load above that was supplemented by the inverter. I did try renogy but the reply wasn't positive.
did u get it for free or buy it?
Did you not watch the video?
@Barry Timm ya..what did I miss?
@@mainemonty He said he purchased it with his own money
Had me spooked for a minute there because I only have one 300ah battery (Fogstar Drift). I just checked the spec though and it supports 200a discharge, with a 300a max.
I was also wondering why the box had two sets of cables, but this explains it, one per battery. Strange though, if you watch older videos, the cables have one end, but split into two cables in the middle, so it had me wondering for a while.
I'm still feeling like I should be putting a 250a ANL fuse in though somewhere. Need to research this one more.
Yes a fuse is wise. Also use both cables to the single frogstar always good for the current draw. 200ah is a fair amount. I want to look at their battery.
You don't need 2 batteries to run this... you need 1 x 12V battery that has at least a 200A continuous discharge current... your battery has a 130A continuous discharge current which is very low for a 200AH battery.
What the guy didn't tell you is that this invertor ups steals power from your battery, even though it's still connected to the grid. I haven't had solar for a week due to cloudy week. And this inverter drained my battery to death.
maybe i have been prounouncing it wrong but i say RENOGY all one word, wheras you say RE-ENERGY. who is right?
Haha, not sure.. Maybe it's like Aluminium.. The UK say it different to the US.
It's defo Renogy not re-onogy but good vid. I've ordered one.
Renogy can not sell a remote for this unit. Be aware, get the remote with this unit or you will have to look for an after market. This is something that Renogy doesn’t suggest but that’s about all you can do.
I’m interested to know why the reviewer keeps saying REONOGY when it’s clearly spelt Renogy!!!!
God knows 🤣
@@SolarPowerChannelwithChris good review though, very interesting and very helpful. Despite reonogy ha ha
What a strange opening statement, you can get away with one battery depending on the batt Ah and your BMS if your draw passes through the BMS, use your BMS for charging not outlet. I run a inverter charger on 1 lifpo4 12v 560ah, no problem at all, my batt alarm is set when 80% charge is consumed but never happens
What you are doing is not advised for the style of batteries I am using. It requires modification to the battery itself, you are by passing a safety feature. I would never recommend this to anyone. So I would say this is not a strange statement to make. If the battery drops below 10v it would damage the cells. I was using £1950 worth of batteries from SOK, this is the fastest way to damage them. It would also remove the warranty from the battery as the manufacturer would not approve.
The fans stoped working on mine after a week rubbish inverter
Expensive batteries.
With 10+ years of service and many 1000'ss of cycles they eventually start to pay them self's off! Compared to lead they are 1/3 of the weight, half the size and you can use the full capacity of the battery.
This unit does not have UPS capability, does not come with a power cord, does not have an a/c power in, does not charge the battery etc. Unfortunately, I learned the hard way after relying on this video and ordered this unit and now I have to pay for return shipping. I called Renogy and they confirmed all of this for me. I suggest you do the same before purchasing one relying on this. They do make an inverter charger, which is a different model and twice the price.
It does dude. You bought the wrong model...
Glad you spotted your mistake!
This is a inverter. Not a battery charger 🤦♂️
Mine came with mains in, all leads including mains lead, and does switch over from 12v source when mains in detected.
You clearly didn’t buy the right one as mine came with everything needed other than the battery charger. Cause it’s not a battery charger it’s an inverter. The problem is yourself not the inverter
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The incredibly stupid design of the mounting feet on these things almost makes the whole device worthless. There's not enough clearance to get a screwdriver past the -'ve terminal onto the screw, to drive it in. The 1000W model i have is even worse, where the +'ve terminal also obstructs access to the other screw. It's just infuriating. You end up having to take the feet off the goddamned inverter, mount the feet onto whatever platform or wall you're fixing to, and then mount the inverter back onto the feet and hope the screws line up. All they had to do was make the feet a little bigger, with the mounting screw a bit further out. But no...
Funny you say this.. I found the same issue when installing in my camper! But I got the screwdriver in there. Not ideal. 🤣