Technically, if you put DVI with integrated audio in the port traditionally reserved for HDMI, you can use it since DVI is an open standard and can be adapted passively. You can’t, however, use the HDMI logo, and you may be limited to earlier versions of the HDMI standard.
this, i've had everything EXCEPT for an hdmi port broken. even in the not handling my electronics carefully when i was like 9 era, i had everything except for the hdmi ports LOL
@@el0o They made a short on it here: th-cam.com/users/shortszhgGaIOJwBQ?si=pEyyWKBJhVnaWV5x I think they also talked about it in a long form video where it wasn't the main topic, but I can't remember which one.
@@DryPaperHammerBroif only there was a standardized connector with enough conductors to carry a video signal, backed by a protocol that allowed it to push high resolution and framerates... It would also be nice if it was reversible, so that it could be plugged in whichever way. Somebody really has to invent a connector like that
Advice for the supports and overhangs, PLA and PETG don't fully stick together, so if you set just the interface layer to be the other material you can set contact distance to 0 and it'll still cleanly separate while giving you a perfect bridge. since it's just a couple single layers you won't have to worry about constant filament swaps. another possible option is TPU because you can flex it away from the main print.
@@alyl603 I’ve been doing the PLA/PETG route for a while and it works super well for keeping bottom layers clean. Most times I just fell send and don’t use a different interface material, but that’s because I’m lazy
btw, I think you'd have a much better chance at getting a higher resolution working, if you simply twist the main four pairs of wires together. On the standard full-sized (lol) 19-pin HDMI connector, those would be the wires on pins... 1+3 4+6 7+9 10+12 Pins 2,5,8,11, would be the shield pin for each respective pair. But see if you can twist each pair together first, as far along the wires as you can. One issue is, the PS5 will be reading the EDID from the display (via pins 15 and 16). The EDID lets the console know the preferred and maximum resolution for the display. So unless you can force the PS5 to output say 720p using a normal HDMI cable, it might be tricky. I mean, in fairness, the pins on your connector are huge, so twisting the data pairs together might not help much. lol But it might be worth a try, as it would be very interesting to see how much it helps.
I have a suggestion to make the pins. You can get house grade single strand copper and hammer it flat. Will be far more durable than the original pins. if you make a channel in the pins you could even glue it into the plastic pins for rigidity reasons. would add some spring tension back in there also. IT not displaying in 1080p is definitely signal degradation from the stripped shielding. if you use shielded wire right up until the split off for the pins you should be fine. you can shield each wire individually up to the pins by just wrapping some magnet wire around the wires in one direction then the other back down it to create two opposing loops like the original shielding would have had you'd eliminate all signal loss altogether. I suspect the resistance in the pins/wire grade is actually driving some of this loss.
Tech Engineering on TH-cam is so satisfying because there are no shortcuts for quick content. You can have sloppy soldering, or tonnes of hot glue, or low quality 3d prints, but it's inevitably going to take a LONG time
Firstly, this is awesome. lol Secondly - You can buy HDMI breakout boards with screw terminals and signal labels / pin numbers. ;) It probably goes without saying that modern HDMI standards can handle insanely high-bandwidth of around 18 Gbps. There are four pairs of wires that carry the main data (up to 4.5 Gbps per pair). Those are meant to be kept as twisted pairs within the cable, and usually have a separate shield. Originally, one of the pairs was purely for the Clock signal, but they had to start using that for data as well, from about HDMI 2.0 onwards. But I think most people would be surprised at how resiliant the HDMI (TMDS) signals can be. As long as the twisted pairs aren't separated along too much of a distance, it will probably work OK for say 720p or even 1080p. It helps that you used a fairly short cable to connect to. Longer cables means more signal degradation. In extreme cases (or just poor-quality cables), it can lead to signal dropouts (dots in the image, or wrong colours), or complete loss-of-sync.
Lucked out of the possibility of making a proper 20 Amp rated HDMI and just made some mockery. Would be awesome with high amp cables and copper plates/rods for connections
@@GigawattGarage if you watch Chases video you’ll see that we ran into that exact problem. Signal strength gets wildly disrupted and limits resolution. If we do a V2 I think this can be overcome by implementing some filter caps or a separate daughterboard to run things through
The only ports I’ve ever broken were a few USB A’s and one lighting port, and tbh the lichtning port probably would’ve worked if I had taken the time to clean it thoroughly.
One ridiculous thought came to mind and it obviously should never even be planned, but I have to say it. Why just make a giant HDMI cable when you could build the console into the male HDMI connector itself. Not only would the console then be indestructible, but you could just plug the console into your brand new TV (oversized HDMI port included) and never worry about replacing a cable OR console ever again. A genius idea, definitely not terrible and absolutely unnecessary. Take notes console devs, the era of including those pesky HDMI cables is over! You may now state that your console costs the same as the HDMI itself :^) A super unique project and very clearly well thought out! The dedication, time, and effort put into this is massive and completing it must've been so satisfying, whether or not it would actually function. I would've loved to see you make a cable worthy of those beasts, but I must admit that it would've been a LITTLE bit over the top.
@@quakeyjakey9111 don’t get me wrong, it crossed my mind when I had it next to the GameCube “you know, this could fit in this”. It may end up happening, even if it’s just a RetroPi build, I like the idea of the HDMI port being a console you connect to the tv itself.
@@KORUPTable connector sadly had a breakout plastic piece melted to it and the pin out didn’t match how it should have, trust me I always try for the easiest method first, I am incredibly lazy.
Cool looking but those transmission lines are now many wavelengths long and the impedance is no longer the designed impedance due to physical scaling. I guess I gotta watch that other video now.
Just watched Chase's PS5 video featuring this! Any ideas on a large scale USB - C? 7:11 can you lightly heat up the hot glue / RTV(?) cover to make it easier to remove / cut?
One hdmi port on my projector gives a faulty signal that makes pink flickering pixels where white color should be. But the other hdmi port is perfectly fine. Weird.
i've literally never once broken an hdmi port, and i'm not even like particularly careful, i just use it as an hdmi port, the same way i'd use any other port
Creating own port example: DGH Port (just example) by doing "Female" & "Male" port type, whih have good pins position to be capable with female & male port. By doing it to be sync to work you can made own port. And convert some port into your own port by know every pins of every port whih you want to change into own port. If you have own idea how to design port then if you good at ... then you are in good way. :) It's can work but for what ? idk but it's cool idea. By know every Pin of any port Spec... & know how to design your own port. You can name your port but it's dont make much sense, you can only give some port to be capable with most types of devices. But to make own port whih will have own spec like speed, type, configuration, response, capabiliti, functions.... you must know more then port's specs, you need to know enginering, ai, flash memory, hex, binary, electric things, ..... and many more. Whih will be more complitaded. (i do some fails in text because i know polish & english not well)
@@HelloKittyFanMan not in this case, this wire actually had a dedicated ground wire that was just bare copper. Chase actually had to do some rigging to make it work with that part.
I do not think that the connector you prepared with the 3D printer will adapt to the speed of the HDMI data transfer type and output an image, because it will be extremely affected by electromagnetic interference. Even if you receive an image, you may experience frequent image interruptions.
@@kingeling never said this one is fully functioning, just that it’s a prototype. But if you want to see it actually work and the electrical issues we encountered you ought to go watch chases video
Super cool! inb4 the HDMI Licensing Administrator demands you pay $5K for using their standard ;^)
Next up: DP-XL
@@JessicaFEREM The DP Licensing Administrator demands you pay $10K for their standard, oh wait, the DP Licensing Administrator doesn't exist
Technically, if you put DVI with integrated audio in the port traditionally reserved for HDMI, you can use it since DVI is an open standard and can be adapted passively.
You can’t, however, use the HDMI logo, and you may be limited to earlier versions of the HDMI standard.
yea thats why displayport is much better and sadly underrated. i love that thinkpad docks include displayport
I use displayport for my gaming PC's 165Hz monitor@@uiopuiop3472
Am I the only person over all these years who has never broken an HDMI port?
@@Lurrkiing 🚨Hold it right there! You’re telling me that you treat your expensive electronic devices… carefully?
@@TapticDigital These days yes, but even in the xbox 360 days I when I was like 10-14 I had not experienced a broken port lol
@@Lurrkiing are you god?
Never had a hdmi port break ether
this, i've had everything EXCEPT for an hdmi port broken. even in the not handling my electronics carefully when i was like 9 era, i had everything except for the hdmi ports LOL
Now you can recreate that HDMI cable that LTT found with a '3090 chip inside" the cable.
@@jackg_ I might as well put the whole PC in it, mine is larger than most NUC machines
Whats the original video? Seems interesting
@@el0o They made a short on it here: th-cam.com/users/shortszhgGaIOJwBQ?si=pEyyWKBJhVnaWV5x
I think they also talked about it in a long form video where it wasn't the main topic, but I can't remember which one.
Fun fact, there is an official large hdmi concept that sadly never got used. Its called hdmi type b and would be somewhat similar to dvi-duallink
And there's HDMI type-E
Ugh let's not forget the dreaded micro hdmi. Thing is more flimsy then a micro usb. I mean it works but like come on guys what's going on here 😆
@@Pr0toPoTaT0 What else was the Pi 4+ meant to use?
@@DryPaperHammerBroif only there was a standardized connector with enough conductors to carry a video signal, backed by a protocol that allowed it to push high resolution and framerates... It would also be nice if it was reversible, so that it could be plugged in whichever way. Somebody really has to invent a connector like that
@@Pr0toPoTaT0 And Mini HDMI, the cursed middle child
Thank you for the video, I liked.
HDMI is like the nintendo of the market of ports, be careful that they dont sue you.
Bring it on HDMI! My port will crush their tiny attempts at high definition
@@TapticDigital lets goo 👊😎
Wow, it's almost as big as a SCART connector.
I've always wondered if you could retrofit a SCART port into current gen tech and have it work like as a HDMI, I'm pretty sure SCART has more pins too
PS5 SCART edition let's gooo
0:47 or put screws on the hdmi port like vga so it screws in
You just gave me ptsd from that little shit
@MuudSitta some monitors made it so hard to unscrew them for NO REASON
Advice for the supports and overhangs, PLA and PETG don't fully stick together, so if you set just the interface layer to be the other material you can set contact distance to 0 and it'll still cleanly separate while giving you a perfect bridge.
since it's just a couple single layers you won't have to worry about constant filament swaps.
another possible option is TPU because you can flex it away from the main print.
@@alyl603 I’ve been doing the PLA/PETG route for a while and it works super well for keeping bottom layers clean. Most times I just fell send and don’t use a different interface material, but that’s because I’m lazy
what a straight forward and elegant solution!
@@steve17907 it’s just that easy!
😅🤌
DUDE THIS IS SO INSANE!
You should make one, too. ;)
btw, I think you'd have a much better chance at getting a higher resolution working, if you simply twist the main four pairs of wires together.
On the standard full-sized (lol) 19-pin HDMI connector, those would be the wires on pins...
1+3
4+6
7+9
10+12
Pins 2,5,8,11, would be the shield pin for each respective pair.
But see if you can twist each pair together first, as far along the wires as you can.
One issue is, the PS5 will be reading the EDID from the display (via pins 15 and 16).
The EDID lets the console know the preferred and maximum resolution for the display.
So unless you can force the PS5 to output say 720p using a normal HDMI cable, it might be tricky.
I mean, in fairness, the pins on your connector are huge, so twisting the data pairs together might not help much. lol
But it might be worth a try, as it would be very interesting to see how much it helps.
Come on now that cable is lacking thicc
I have a suggestion to make the pins. You can get house grade single strand copper and hammer it flat. Will be far more durable than the original pins. if you make a channel in the pins you could even glue it into the plastic pins for rigidity reasons. would add some spring tension back in there also. IT not displaying in 1080p is definitely signal degradation from the stripped shielding. if you use shielded wire right up until the split off for the pins you should be fine. you can shield each wire individually up to the pins by just wrapping some magnet wire around the wires in one direction then the other back down it to create two opposing loops like the original shielding would have had you'd eliminate all signal loss altogether.
I suspect the resistance in the pins/wire grade is actually driving some of this loss.
@@hogandromgool2062 very good info, the hammered flat copper would definitely be a good idea. I could probably also rig up some EMI shields
Tech Engineering on TH-cam is so satisfying because there are no shortcuts for quick content. You can have sloppy soldering, or tonnes of hot glue, or low quality 3d prints, but it's inevitably going to take a LONG time
8:28 That continuity beep made me jump a foot lol
@@CUUE24 it was so loud and painful, but also so exciting to find continuity
I find when removing supports using a heat gun and an X-Acto knife helps a lot especially the X-Acto knife for small parts
man i'm so happy you actually made it functional, grinning ear to ear right now, amazing build!!!!
@@linecraftman3907 remember, it’s not stupid if it works
"In theory..."
* Just hypothesis until you start seeing positive test results.
Firstly, this is awesome. lol
Secondly - You can buy HDMI breakout boards with screw terminals and signal labels / pin numbers. ;)
It probably goes without saying that modern HDMI standards can handle insanely high-bandwidth of around 18 Gbps.
There are four pairs of wires that carry the main data (up to 4.5 Gbps per pair).
Those are meant to be kept as twisted pairs within the cable, and usually have a separate shield.
Originally, one of the pairs was purely for the Clock signal, but they had to start using that for data as well, from about HDMI 2.0 onwards.
But I think most people would be surprised at how resiliant the HDMI (TMDS) signals can be.
As long as the twisted pairs aren't separated along too much of a distance, it will probably work OK for say 720p or even 1080p.
It helps that you used a fairly short cable to connect to.
Longer cables means more signal degradation.
In extreme cases (or just poor-quality cables), it can lead to signal dropouts (dots in the image, or wrong colours), or complete loss-of-sync.
So cool. The timelapses are beautiful
@@davestevn they are my favorite part, I could watch them all day
Yeah top notch time lapses 😯
Lucked out of the possibility of making a proper 20 Amp rated HDMI and just made some mockery.
Would be awesome with high amp cables and copper plates/rods for connections
i've never seen an hdmi port or cable break ever
@@weezerfan3571 go check some of my other videos, some people outright wrench them off the board!
to a fellow weezer fan:
my hdmi cable couldn't transmit either video or audio so i had to buy a new one lmao
They break a lot
I always have 2 extra hdmi cables in my camera bag because they break so easily.
Bro imagine in real life the 3d printers moved like they do in time lapse
@@lakeishaschermerhorn1166 Star Trek replicator level of magic
Yes we need that
@@TapticDigitalworlds largest ps5 worlds smallest hdmi
Idk about data quality but you can get breakout modules to make the wiring a little simpler.
Really cool BUT, I wonder about signal integrity of the strands of cables you have now untwisted and removed the EMI shielding of.
@@GigawattGarage if you watch Chases video you’ll see that we ran into that exact problem. Signal strength gets wildly disrupted and limits resolution. If we do a V2 I think this can be overcome by implementing some filter caps or a separate daughterboard to run things through
@@TapticDigital oh sweet, heading over there now to check it out.
Imagine the amount of electricity you can pass through that port you could probably power a small neighborhood with it
holy crap those 3d printing time lapses were amazing
@@guesswho2778 thank you! They were definitely my favorite part to make
The only ports I’ve ever broken were a few USB A’s and one lighting port, and tbh the lichtning port probably would’ve worked if I had taken the time to clean it thoroughly.
It might be a interesting idea to look at quick connects for a future v2 design, could make for a stronger connector
@@SupernovaXTS you know the big levers on transformers and breaker boxers, the one that makes a great “chunk” sound? I want my connector to do that
now make a giant port and connact them and see if you get image
@@DarkW8 I did! You can go see Chase Fourniers video where he installed it in a PS5
@@TapticDigital thx m8 XD
Ha, pretty cool; I can't wait to see if it actually works!
One ridiculous thought came to mind and it obviously should never even be planned, but I have to say it.
Why just make a giant HDMI cable when you could build the console into the male HDMI connector itself.
Not only would the console then be indestructible, but you could just plug the console into your brand new TV
(oversized HDMI port included) and never worry about replacing a cable OR console ever again.
A genius idea, definitely not terrible and absolutely unnecessary.
Take notes console devs, the era of including those pesky HDMI cables is over!
You may now state that your console costs the same as the HDMI itself :^)
A super unique project and very clearly well thought out!
The dedication, time, and effort put into this is massive and completing it must've been so satisfying, whether or not it would actually function.
I would've loved to see you make a cable worthy of those beasts, but I must admit that it would've been a LITTLE bit over the top.
@@quakeyjakey9111 don’t get me wrong, it crossed my mind when I had it next to the GameCube “you know, this could fit in this”.
It may end up happening, even if it’s just a RetroPi build, I like the idea of the HDMI port being a console you connect to the tv itself.
this makes me want to make a jumbo-pc (which I probably won’t, but it seems like a nice project)
@@e-2thesillyguy I measured how big a PS5 would be if I scaled it to match this HDMI. It would be 14 feet tall
Now you have to get a tv that would support this thing, or for that matter, anything that would support it.
Displayport & Thunderbolt Video >>
@@Conner399 gross formats. Everybody knows S-video is the one true format, HDMI a close second
Rarely chuckle at these kinds of videos, but I did in this one - good job friend :)
@@H2ydrogen thank you! It gave me a good chuckle every time I looked at it
@@TapticDigital now make the biggest audio video cable
Component video may not have been digital but I sure never had to wait for the TV to sync!
@@Wegetsignal S-video supremacy!
Never had any hdmi fail on me but couple displayports did. Not even saying type c.
This is so unhinged i love it
just imagine 10 of these big hdmi surrounding one tiny micro hdmi in a sofa couch . Insane 🤯🤯
Wouldn't it be easier to add screws like vga or dvi? Still a cool project either way!
@@RichardReed-h2n you sound like one of those “smart people” where you think of logical solutions. Some of us aren’t smart, we just have big ideas :)
Just wait until HDMI Consortium learns about this!!! please do this with display port
nothing will beat parallel ports with screws
The honda civic now has a plug large enough!!!
@@chumples now I just need to find one at the grocery store and test fit!
We might want to make the HDMI cord bigger
Display port is superior
Compared to what? VGA? Maybe, barely. HDMI is the one true port, all shall bow before HDMI.
@TapticDigital never
This whole video sums up how I feel about micro hdmi
Pro tip just take a picture of the connector and draw on it in paint to label the wires to use as a guide
@@KORUPTable connector sadly had a breakout plastic piece melted to it and the pin out didn’t match how it should have, trust me I always try for the easiest method first, I am incredibly lazy.
This is AWESOME! Though, now, if anyone damages the pins in plugging, they should do jail time. 😆 This ain't a small target.
the crosstalk on this would be crazy
@@tooniis1403 you better believe it is 😄
of course the tape will accept solder, that's the main principle of tiffany style stained glass.
Super Big HDMI cable!!
I literally have a bent HDMI male connector and it somehow still works. I may just have the most resilient cable on Earth.
As an engineer, no; you get your thanks here
thanks
Can you do one where the print is electroplated
Cool looking but those transmission lines are now many wavelengths long and the impedance is no longer the designed impedance due to physical scaling. I guess I gotta watch that other video now.
@@Superkuh2 signal integrity was always our enemy. V2 should fix that
0:00 Yeah! Even we got *SCOLDED* by the teacher for breaking the *HDMI*
For me just burning around the HDMI a little work
You soldered all the connections and didn't show if it worked or not? I wanna see this thing go brrrrr
@@coltonorr6517 that’s why you gotta go over to see Chase install it! I didn’t have a PS5 handy, so I sent it to him to test it out
You could do this awesome project or just use display port
@@Mister_Anonym1 ew, no. HDMI Superiority Gang right here
Wii mini sized hdmi
Just watched Chase's PS5 video featuring this! Any ideas on a large scale USB - C? 7:11 can you lightly heat up the hot glue / RTV(?) cover to make it easier to remove / cut?
Considering a few ports, but also thinking of designing my own in some ridiculous shape
@TapticDigital plus it uses a considerable amount of filament! Cool!
12k output
One hdmi port on my projector gives a faulty signal that makes pink flickering pixels where white color should be. But the other hdmi port is perfectly fine. Weird.
This is so sick, amazing work! But I'm baffled as to how you don't have a single HDMI device to test it on 😭
Not to say I don’t have one to test, just ones I’d rather not test on. Plus I love working with Chase on projects!
dislike that you split the video but sending me to a friend makes it cool so ill oblige.
this should fit nicely for civic's exhaust
@@Phoeliz I wonder how fast it could eject it 🤔
Run the thinnest fiber cable from the biggest hdmi port
I bet if I plug it into my TV it'll still be read as HDMI 2.0
and this is why I love scart!!!!
Americans don’t have scart i believe. They used AV out at the time EU have scart. It was ahead of its time
16k video here we come 🙀
@@RestoreTechnique I’m blown away every time I refresh!
i've literally never once broken an hdmi port, and i'm not even like particularly careful, i just use it as an hdmi port, the same way i'd use any other port
Creating own port example: DGH Port (just example) by doing "Female" & "Male" port type, whih have good pins position to be capable with female & male port. By doing it to be sync to work you can made own port. And convert some port into your own port by know every pins of every port whih you want to change into own port. If you have own idea how to design port then if you good at ... then you are in good way. :)
It's can work but for what ? idk but it's cool idea.
By know every Pin of any port Spec... & know how to design your own port.
You can name your port but it's dont make much sense, you can only give some port to be capable with most types of devices.
But to make own port whih will have own spec like speed, type, configuration, response, capabiliti, functions.... you must know more then port's specs, you need to know enginering, ai, flash memory, hex, binary, electric things, ..... and many more. Whih will be more complitaded.
(i do some fails in text because i know polish & english not well)
ive never had an hdmi cable or port break
my idea is fitting a computer in the port and actually connecting it to the tv that makes it mini desktop. I am dreaming of it :)
@@vtnotfoundvasidnotfound7250 I'm all in, we're gonna bring true meaning to "All-in-One" PCs
Those little strands and the foil aren't the grounding conductor as in coaxial cables?
@@HelloKittyFanMan not in this case, this wire actually had a dedicated ground wire that was just bare copper. Chase actually had to do some rigging to make it work with that part.
OK, thanks, @@TapticDigital.
We're gonna need USB-C XL
Or put the vga screws on the hdmi
We should just switch to display port as the standard on something like a game console. Ive never broken a displayport
it will not be soldered, it will be welded got me laughing
@@l1ght483 if we just weld it to the frame of the console there’s no way you can knock it off!
@@TapticDigital You are absolutely right
i have never broken an hdmi BUT we do lose them a bunch and have at least 20 scattered around the house
found the hdmi cable for the tv that can show a accurate caseoh image
Cool, you can plug your phone IN the adapter.
I do not think that the connector you prepared with the 3D printer will adapt to the speed of the HDMI data transfer type and output an image, because it will be extremely affected by electromagnetic interference. Even if you receive an image, you may experience frequent image interruptions.
@@Novus_Ordo_Conditor just a prototype for now, next version will take shielding into account 😉
Fully functioning? I seriously doubt it considering how large those pins are, you're gonna run into voltage drops or whatever electrical limitations.
@@kingeling never said this one is fully functioning, just that it’s a prototype. But if you want to see it actually work and the electrical issues we encountered you ought to go watch chases video
Cost of repair vs Cost of Device... Stupid HDMI
You should plug it into a honda civic's exhaust port
I prefer calling This,
**HDMI Omni**
And i may consider modding a computer with it. 😂
@@EvexiansVideoworks just install a computer in the port itself, there’s room
@@TapticDigital That‘s a great idea xD
Genuine question here why do 3D printers use fractals as support structures?
I'M SURPRISED A MONITOR OR TV COULD POWER A RASPBERRY PI WITH INTERNET WITH ALL THOSE PINS BY NOW.
@@juggawest I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT AND THE HDMI XL WILL REPLACE MOST CONNECTORS AS AN ALL IN ONE SOLUTION
This is actually what they use to connect the Las Vegas Sphere.
I've never had an HDMI port break on me - had a couple of cables break in maybe 10 years? What are you guys doing to break the ports?
Wait until you see gods HDMI he uses to interface this simulation
What about the shielding?
Ahh thats what plugs into the back of those honda Civics
Should have gone with Display Port
That hdminport can power a 1000w display wihout external power
Good stuff
@@engineer3dprints BIG stuff :)
Convert it to normal HDMI and make this port working pls
7:09 you could’ve just cut below it and then strip the cables
whats the solduring iron?
Never in my life broke a hdmi port I’ve repaired them before from my old job fixing Xboxes and ps4s and stuff
@@91rickstar a fellow repair tech! Almost every repair that comes across my desk is met with “how in the…”
@@TapticDigital yea it was like that sometimes lol