What Romans 13 Says About Submission to Government Authority
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- A lot of people have questions about Romans 13 verses one to seven, which tells Christians to submit to the governing authorities and that God has put the governing authorities in place basically to keep order in the world and to keep evil at bay and to reward those who do what is good.
Now we all know and Paul certainly knew that not all governments are good. In fact there are many governments in the world today that are quite bad. The question down through Christian history for Christians who consider scripture to be authoritative is, "how could I obey this particular passage, Romans 13, one to seven and yet also obey the many, many parts of scripture that talk about not oppressing the poor? That talk about reaching out to the disenfranchised and the marginalized to welcoming and showing hospitality to the stranger? How can I obey all the many passages of scripture that speak of extending love and kindness to others, especially those who are not like me when my government may be putting laws into place that say I should not show that love and kindness to people?"
In this video, New Testament Scholar, Frank Thielman explains this controversial scripture.
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If government wants me to disobey God, I'll choose to disobey government no matter what the consequences.
The BuyBull(the word of God) says you should be submissive to the government for they were established by God.
Rebellion against tyranny is obedience to God
@@joannaferrara5884 that's nice but that's not what the BuyBull says.
Acts 5:29
"Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men."
Peter was referring to the government here, so yes the bible not only permits us to disobey tyranny, it COMMANDS us to.
@Tslav TV Biblically illegitimate rulers, rulers that take power by fraud, brute force or conquest, need not be obeyed. Nor those who gainsay God's holy word. Remember the three Hebrew boys? Remember Sir Thomas More's defiance of Henry VIII. More is a saint.
My understanding is that we obey the governing authorities as long as it does not keep us from following our faith. The apostles continuously rebelled against governing authorities when they told them not to preach.
@Don Killuminati our government is very different than the biblical ones but we do have rulers
the officials are rulers
@Don Killuminati they are rulers
rulers are people who write and enforce the laws
@Rudy Cota they are the rulers of our society because they enforce the governmental laws
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the government spaces out with Y'our tax money.
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Planned Parenthood makes their plans in the hood with American tax dollars.
We don't have to pay the tax, but you do if you want to be free in America ¿ 🐟
@Rudy Cota you might want to look up the definition of the term ruler
Acts 5:29- but Peter and the Apostles answered " we must obey God, rather than man". Its time to pick a side. Either be a soldier to the cross or an enemy of it.
God's written word is the authority. They are all the big picture.
@@bikerstrong3335 AMEN!!!
Amen
everyone wants to quote Paul endorsing authorities of man, but no one wants to address Jesus when he said only serve one master (Go). Funny.... Statists ....
Also Jesus said give what is Caesar's and give to what is God's
@@James-uu6xs what is Caesar's?
@@bijou989 money
@@bijou989 he was referring to taxes
@@THEAMERICAN-ob2wt Yahusha was referring to the creation of man's hands. You cannot put under a lifeless entity (government) a living creature of God.
"But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God."
Where do you place men-appointed kings, presidents, senators, governors, congressmen, military, police, self proclaimed pastors, ministers, priests, etc in there? The order of authority and power is very clear: God above his annointed king Yahusha, Yahusha above ALL MEN, and a man above his wife.
Thank you for this. Many people are confused, more like deceived, and do not understand whose laws to obey. We as humans created by God have to obey His laws first then man’s and be like Peter... “Be still and know that I am God”. Worship God, not man, he does not have to lie and he never dies, plus he does not think like us, his thoughts are far greater and better than ours. Remember those things before you decide whose laws to follow.
I just saying if a law prevents you from doing something morally neutral you can break the law at your own risk. Seriously if you think breaking that kind of law is bad? Your out of your mind
Nowhere in Romans 13 or anywhere else doesvthe bible give absolute obedience to the government.
Romans 13, 1-5
If leaders are wanting you to do evil and not of Our Father, then disobey and follow Our Father, the leaders should not terrorize our good works.
Sister in Christ Joanna thank you for bringing these verses to the light because I was confused over Romans 13 and tyrannical governments
@@sakellarioudimitris7439 All Glory to Father God,
I used to be to,
There's a few others scriptures also in Daniel and in Acts
Thank you and may God keep you!
It’s an ignorant approach
sister joanna thank you for sharing this glorious righeous message of God. I have decided that because of everything that is going on in the USA right now that i dont want to rely on the government , i want to rely and be more dependent on Farther God, then the USA government , due to their evilness , same time i wanna obey obide serve God so i feel im a book ripped in half
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God
Tyranny: a nation under cruel and oppressive government.
cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control. This situation we are in is not that.
Quoting a Freemason, Ben Franklin. . . who helped organize revolutions against authorities.
@@firstbaptistchurchaugustaw1931 Absolutely we are
@@crspx3 is Ben or the Bible our authority?
First Baptist Church Augusta WI we sure are! You’ve been brainwashed to a quiet slumber. When will you wake?
Welcoming and showing hospitality to the stranger, notice that it is THE stranger, single, or very few. Welcoming 500 000 strangers is a different thing, specially if they want to force you in their religion.
As one who follows the example of the Bereans and goes to scripture to find out if what is done or said is TRUTH, I'd appreciate being enlightened what scripture backs up your point/position?
@@ivanscott2367 read Moses's Law in the first testament about strangers. God asks Hebrews to open door to strangers and be good to them. strangers must respect Israel's laws. If some of them want to be included in the lord's feasts, they have to go though circoncision.
After that, we can use our brain. I don't believe that God would aloud 200 000 strangers coming into his people, imposing their own religion.
OK we are not Israel. But I don't think God is happy with strangers raping women and killing people during concerts as it happens in France.
@@isabs8616 Agreed, except I don't see ANY conditions on the number or purpose of the strangers. 200,000 strangers even at the kingdom of Israel's highest population level would be overwhelming. However 200k in our nation today is less than 1/10th of 1%, or we outnumber them 1,000 to one and more. You're absolutely correct with what God is not happy about, but that happens with citizens of most countries so just because strangers do it as well doesn't make them ANY MORE or Less culpable.
@@ivanscott2367 most Christian forget to study the old testament, and don't consider how God took extreme care of his people and exclusive identity of Hebrews among other nations .
it happens that 80% of assault here in France are from Muslims culture people. In 2023 A young girl 12 years old was literally sacrificed by a Tunisian woman. Search Google " affaire Lola" you will see what I am talking about. Recently a 94 years old woman was raped and killed by an Afghan migrant, and so on there are 100 assault a day currently here . I know that people want to stay blind about all those things . But justice will be done one day, if not by men, it will be by God.
Are governments exempt from Gods laws and punishment?
Im a young Christian of 1yr ,still learning.....I asked my church to meet up in church carpark for social distance prayer,they all have cars n i don't. I got hit by Nicola Sturgeons advice n Romans 13:1-2 . I have followed everything so far n stay alone 😪 I'm so glad I have God in my Life now 🙏
Praise God welcome to the Kingdom!!🙏🙏 God is in control and will always provide. BUT IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER; In the 1850s proponents of slavery pointed to Romans 13 as a justification for the Fugitive Slave ACT. June 15, 2018 US. Attorney General used it as well to defend the Trump administration policy of separating immigrant children from their families. Let the Holy Spirit lead you Sister but we follow Jesus and the constitution not these global elites that are sabotaging are way of living.
WALTG818 G Is there a cite for the 1850s business? As for Sessions he was right. Hoards of families (or human traffickers masquerading as families) swarming across our border were and are a big problem and harsh measures needed to be taken.
@@impactdaworld That policy was put in place under Obama. Nice try. When you say "separating immigrant children from their families". It's for their own protection. Illegal's will use children as props just to get over the border. They child could be stolen, attempted to be sold, used as a sex slave. Lot's of horror on the border. Read more.
Yay😊 I'm really happy for you!
1750. In this sermon called “the morning gun of the American Revolution,” Rev. Mayhew interpreted Romans 13 to demonstrate that when rulers act outside their God-given authority, they become tyrants and deserve resistance not obedience.
We are to obey the governmental laws as long as they are not contrary to Gods Divine Law.
What do you think about govt shutting down churches but keeping liquor stores open? In this "pandemic"
@@ConspiracyCinema Though I may not like certain things being allowed while other are restricted, I believe the Government for the most part is acting out of safety concerns. As a Believer, I go by Romans 13 and 1st Peter 2:13>. If the powers that be were to say this is for churches only, then I would have a different opinion.
@@firstbaptistchurchaugustaw1931 what will you do when they use Romans 13 to get you to take the mark or go to a F E M A camp, history is rife with Romans 13 being used to justify Tyranny example Germany.
@@PraiseJesusKingandSavior , Romans 13 applies unless God's Divine Law is forbidden.
Praise Jesus King and Savior That would go against Gods divine law.
So there's basically no way around romans 13:1-2 contradicting other aspects of the good book? Just gotta pick and choose which one holds priority?
1750. In this sermon called “the morning gun of the American Revolution,” Rev. Mayhew interpreted Romans 13 to demonstrate that when rulers act outside their God-given authority, they become tyrants and deserve resistance not obedience.
What a loose interpretation. I didn't see that anywhere in that chapter. I want to, but I didn't
@@ydargybwen The "Higher Powers" in their case being the Colonial charters, under which the Crown's obligations were not being met.. In our case, the ultimate "Higher Power" is the Bill of Rights and Constitution, not leaders appointed by corporate entities and foreign interest groups... Vastly different scenario from Paul's day, in which God empowered the Romans to conquer Judea, and impose Herodian/Edomites as rulers.. I think you will find it interesting, without this sermon it is possible the US never would have existed.. Look it up.. "Jonathan Mayhew "A Discourse Concerning Unlimited Submission and Non-Resistance to the Higher Powers" "
@@MrSparkums I have but 1 higher power. I cede to the constitution when it comes to rights and government limitations but def do not look at it as a higher power. I loathe the us govt. Just trying to figure out why God would tell me to be subject unto our govt.
@@ydargybwen Look up the KJV passage, it doesn't say Government, it says "higher powers".. Because the Lord establishes nations.. Job 12:23.. And 1 Timothy 2:1-8... We must not assume that "Government leaders and Authorities" (which is what the new versions change the higher power to) are "not a terror to good works" as the context of the passage indicates. Clearly ours have become such a terror..
@@ydargybwen I would just clarify that "higher authority" is the Constitution and Bill of rights of this "Nation", were established by God, and those who are undermining it are a terror to good works, and therefore resistance is the only just response.. This was the only legitimate justification of the Revolution, and the entire point of that sermon..
Is it possible it was written that way to keep the authorities of the time content for the reason of trying to prevent the all of his writings from being distroyed or burnt so that they would survive through time.
Indeed, the Bible is full of dichotomies! To blindly submit n disavow biblical truths in its entirety is a demonstration of selective obedience or rather an easy way out of a difficult dilemma. Obedience to God comes first before man!
In the USA, we are given a Constitution which tells us who government is by and for, The People. Govermnment (so-called) "authorities" even call themselves "Public Servants" (although recently they like to call themselves, "Leaders") and just about every police car has the words, "To Protect and Serve." This being the case, government is the servant and the People are the Master. According to Romans 13, it's government that is ordered to serve the People. Thank you, YHVH and thank you, Founding Fathers.
divorce your country.
What blm doesn’t get is that you can obey man’s law as long as it doesn’t break God’s law but you cannot, absolutely cannot break man’s law for your own selfish reasons.
If a government allows for one to take a person’s life, then they’re not aligned with God’s law.
We do not want a police state.
@@IncognitoInvisible Who are we talking about? BLM and Antifa took over 30 lives during the riots. We should definitely be able to Biblically defend ourselves against such thugs.
@@johnp7739 Defend? Get a bulletproof vest then. As soon as you pull the trigger, you are taking the offensive.
I’m referring to the people killed at the hands of their own government just because the criminals wear a badge.
@BillG Dontjabme Garbage. The stats don't show that, and the cops and government have gone super easy on Burn Loot Murder and Antifa. They've put people in prison for decades for Jan. 6 that didn't even assault anyone while BLM/Antifa have attacked and sometimes killed tons of cops. If law enforcement won't stop them, "we the people" will have to organize and take care of these leftist terrorists down as our Constitution allows.
@@johnp7739 Your Constitution is dead and was only a ploy for power by Alexander Hamilton and others. Read about the Whiskey Rebellion. BLM are nazis, but so are you for siding with cops who protect the abortion clinics and kill over license plates and ids and refusal to comply...or refusal to acknowledge themselves as Equals amongst any of us. Look up Daniel Shaver, white guy, and watch him die. That is all cops. They are not good guys. They are the government! They are the ones who shot the veteran and killed her on Jan. 6! They are not your friends!
The word "government" literally means "to control the mind". If we were meant to be controlled, we would have been born with remote controls. Did God not give us free will, and in free will the consequences of good or bad behavior? And with that, learning from our experiences in order to grow?
ment as a suffix refers to a state of being, it doesn’t mean mind
Well said and I agree. Romans is used to justify tyranny. A lot of ppl think it means follow the govt until it violates God's law. But (govt) is an oppressive structure and violates God's law of love for your fellow man everyday.
The whole context before and after Romans 13 is about upholding and doing what is good and righteous. 13 then talks about the 'governing authorities' solely in the context of a good and just government that is seeking the best for it's people and punishing the wrongdoer. "For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, 4 for he is God's servant *for your good* . But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an *avenger* who carries out God's wrath on the *wrongdoer* . Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience. *For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.* " It is literally saying you must pay taxes to fund a good government so that goodness and justice can be carried out. It is mind-blowing to me that, when scripture is taken as a whole, people think that God wants his righteous people to sit idle as terror, tyranny, and oppression are inflicted upon innocents at the hands of vile, evil, GODLESS thugs that happen to be in charge of one particular government out of hundreds of other governments who aren't doing those things...Which government should we submit to then, and why? David, Gideon, Joshua, Solomon, Jonathan, on, and on, and on, ALL WARRIORS. We are saved by God's grace but don't think that you can disobey his commands now. You claim that God is everything to you, then which facet of your life, community, government, etc. should you leave God out of???? No, it is our Christian duty to fight for our culture, our government, etc. to set them up to honor God. If it is not a God honoring culture or government, you resist it and you do your part to make it one.
The corrrect translation is "high powers".
You've been "licensed" into submission.... your Religious Rights and Beliefs have been oppressed for decades.... yet you still submit.... 501C3....is getting permission from "The State" for something God has commanded.... you all fundamentally misinterprete and incorrectly apply scripture in everyday life....
Paul told them we are to obey God not man!
But the men in government were instituted by god. To disobey them is to disobey god.
@@porchhonky6844 not in every situation. Depends on what they are asking. If they are making you sin then no.
@@LALady1 why would an all knowing god put wicked people in charge and tell us to submit to them if he knew they mislead us? It's almost like people who wanted to be in control created god/the bible to trick/scare people into following them with the promise of eternal life. It's a lot like in 1 Peter 2:18-21 18) Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust. 19) For this is a gracious thing, when, mindful of God, one endures sorrows while suffering unjustly. 20) For what credit is it if, when you sin and are beaten for it, you endure? But if when you do good and suffer for it you endure, this is a gracious thing in the sight of God. 21) For to this you have been called,
because Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example, so that you might follow in his steps.
Thankyou. I agree because it's in the Word of God. God bless you.
GOD is to come before any oath. God is to be before any secret society oath aswell.
Question about one statement. What laws would not allow us to show love and kindness to people. I'm honestly confused. How can a government dictate how we treat people? I can't think of a current law that government is telling people they can't show love and kindness.
Ask someone in the countries I've listed below that same question about their laws and government treatment of Christians. The Bible wasn't written for only citizens of the United States. It's difficult to preach the gospel to the four corners when not everybody welcomes us.
The ultimate expression of love from a Christian standpoint is simply sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost.”
1 John 1:9 “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”
Another expression of love is to ask someone if you can pray for them when they are sick or down.
Job 42:10 “And the Lord turned the captivity of Job, when he prayed for his friends: also the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.”
James 5:16 “Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.”
John 3:16 “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.”
All of the above instructions in scripture are illegal to practice in the following countries: China, North Korea, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria, Central African Republic, Libya, Iraq, Nepal, Yemen, Iran and is increasing in India - to name a few. In these countries, you are not allowed to express the love of Christ or you are sent to jail or killed on the spot. Google Christian churches being burned down in Africa. They call it persecution.
And especially claiming this in one of the above countries: 1 Timothy 2:5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” Will send you and your whole family straight to a work camp for life or death.
This whole thing is unloving and unlawful.
I cannot kill an abortion doctor and save an unborn child's life. There is one. Enjoy it, Nazi Christian.
Well I wasn't allowed by law to show kindness by visiting my brother who was struggling with lockdowns because it was so isolating (and this is not unique to him; tons of folk were struggling the same). However, I very happily broke the law, once I realised this whole thing was a bloody farce, and implemented by people who don't believe in it themselves nor obey it!
Government is an institution that uses force and coercion to achieve its aims. Its very structure shows hatred for your fellow man, masquerading in love for the poor or disadvantaged.
Vaccination laws were one example, and this is only in the past year. I'm sure there were other instances. Good question you raised.
1 John 5:19 - not just some "governments". The Jesuits would NOT leave anything to chance.
Mat. 4:8 - If Lucifer was offering the kingdoms of the world, at least HE must have claimed ownership of them!
Satan made the offer; could he actually deliver? I think not.
@@christopherskipp1525 Why not god said the earth was his.
@@hunglikehorse4339 I do not understand your comment.
@@christopherskipp1525 I think he is trying to say "Well then, why didn't God just say that the earth belongs to Him?"
@@yekkub9425 The earth does belong to God. God in his sovereignty allows all manner of sin to occur. Of course, this will all come to an end at a future point.
People who say governments are ordained by god are forgetting to ask one crucial question: which god?
As the Bible tells us in the story of the Temptation of Christ, Satan is the rightful prince and god of this material world and all political authority comes from him. Christ didn't argue that claim. He denied the authority.
1 Samuel Chapter 8 tells us that those who want a mortal government to rule over them have rejected God.
The early Christians weren't persecuted because they believed in God, but because they rejected the purported authority of those who weren't God.
#AnarchoChristian #NoKingButChrist
What do you say to people who says "Ohhhh but even Paul called to submit to government authority and that was during the time of Nero!! One of the worst Christian Persecution empires. After all God is at the help of placing that government."
It’s a pity more people and pastors didn’t have this understanding before passively acquiescing to government lockdown restrictions worldwide!
I think the covid lockdown is a perfect example of when we ought to obey government authority as it is to protect one another
@@micmikeman6865 except they were effectively illegal and didn’t protect anyone, causing much more harm than good. Lockdowns are morally wrong.
@@kevinmoore8896 How exactly did they cause more harm than good? Look at Europe, where people mostly complied to the lockdowns and covid lasted for a much shorter time than here in America.
@@micmikeman6865 gosh, if you can’t see that now after two years then there’s little hope of getting through to you. Do some research, look it up, lockdowns kill. Sweden no lockdown better results than elsewhere, California locked down and did worse than no lockdown Florida, also see north and South Dakota. No country should have ever locked down for covid, pandemic preparedness never recommended them, you don’t quarantine healthy people, that’s also a biblical principle
@@kevinmoore8896 What biblical principle?
If all authority was under God control then it seems weird that it was the authorities that arrested and killed the prophets that just doesn’t add up.
A better way to put it is that god has given them power but he has no authority over that power. If you break a morally neutral law made illegal then we must bare consequence for the action if levied.
IMO - The scripture is very balanced. Governing authorities "bear the sword" for the narrow purpose of bringing wrath on those who do evil. In doing this they act as Gods ministers. So long as the governing authorities do not overstep this limitation they remain as Gods ministers, and we are to obey.
Romans Ch 13 presumes that the governing authorities have no power to define or redefine evil. Throughout scripture this separation of powers is maintained in all divinely approved governing structures. The church/temple defines what is good or evil, but has no enforcement power. The governing authorities have enforcement power (sword), but do not have power to alter right and wrong.
What about the governing authorities who bring wrath on homosexuality in some Muslim countries?
I think you exaggerated that from modern politics rather than extrapolated that Biblically.
Mitchell Slate how
@@mason7023 - Please be more specific with the question. How what?
James Buchanan nah i was asking the guy who responded to you saying you “exaggerated that from modern politics” when your answer definitely did not do that
Romans 13 is not talking about world governments. It is speaking of spiritual "powers that be", which have powers concerning your soul. It does speak of "worldly powers" too, but they are secondary to "the higher powers" that are above even them.
It looks as if this "powers that be" could be talking about one man in particular if you read it closely.
Idk the version I have says “governing authorities”…doesn’t sound like “powers that be” to me
@@DietersYTThe apostle Paul wrote the book of Romans. Paul was a 'governing authority' in the church. The Roman government KILLED him. Made him a martyr. How is he talking about governments of the world? Not that they too should not be obeyed as well but Romans 13 is not talking about them when he says 'powers that be'.
Rom.13[1] Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
[3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
[4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Thank you!
I’m not sure why Paul and his letters are even taken seriously. He never walked with Jesus.
That was what I always figured as the Spirit has spoken to me on how to follow authority and him. It's basically godly common sense. Thank you so much. It will help us going forth for these times and times to come.
It’s not submission to governing authorities if a law prevents me from doing something that is morally neutral I can break the law if I accept the punishment. God didn’t speak to you that was just a thought you found to be true and got re affirmed by a vid on TH-cam. Because by that definition the laws define my ethics.
Amen!
This is a complete misreading of the passage. "Governing authorities" is about church leadership. You can find similar advice by the Apostles elsewhere in the New Testament about actual governments, yet you will not see this language about complete submission, etc. Romans 13, however, is about church leaders. Just look at where it sits in the rest of the passage. Paul is talking about church structure, pivots wildly to civil structure, then pivots wildly back to church structure. Don't think so.
"What is DUE to government is obedience to God's law." Greg L. Bahnsen
Thomas Jefferson said "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to GOD"!!!
This is at least partially true and helpful, no doubt, but I believe it gets more complicated than this. When our governments, as they seem to frequently do, regularly harm others, then does our obligation to love our neighbor come first even if it means we are to be seriously forceful troublemakers? Those who talk about 1940s Germany often say we are to be extremely forceful troublemakers, so to speak, but why should this not apply now, then?
The ego always jumps in to edit the truth ......... with lies, and liars; that have risen to power
I have a quick question
if I live in a country where Islam or any other type of government that rules over a Christian
The Christian should submit to ALL the laws they are being subjected to ?
Because that government has Gods authority ?
So Christians sharing the gospel in countries that do not practice Christianity,
and those Christians get their heads chopped off..
By the ruling authorities???
would that be legal in the eyes of the Almighty, because they broke the law of that government
1 Timothy 2:1-2 KJV
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; [2] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
AMEN
Powers DOES NOT MEAN Government... the kjv doesn't say Government...
God is to be before government.
The word Government literally means "control the mind" Govern = control and ment = mental. Control mentality....
Thanks - great analysis.
Zzccc
@@mohammedazam299 ??
The king speaks with divine wisdom; he must never judge unfairly..Prov16:10.
Without wise leadership, nation falls; there is safety in having many advisers. Proverbs11:14.
The government is us; we are the government, you and I.
Theodore Roosevelt
Amen.
It is unbelievable that people at this day and age still believe in this things.
Yet your here on a video about it.
@@michaelalexander5350 😂😂
Dude that is the longest high I have ever seen in my entire life.
Amen
As long as they don't try to keep us from following Christ, we are to obey them.
Your retarded bro. I can disrespect any morally neutral law and have it not be called a sin because God has deemed it as right and to say it is wrong is on a whole another level of stupidity
FIRST WE MUST UNDERSTAND "WHOM" ROMANS 13 DESCRIBES
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor."
ALLOW ME TO PRESENT GODS WORD FOR WE ARE TO CHECK ALL THINGS BY HIS WORD
Acts 20:28
“Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”
Galatians 4:2
“But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.”
Hebrews 13:17
“Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.”
THESE THREE ALONE IDENTIFIES "WHOM" ROMANS 13 IS DESCRIBING
IT SURE ISNT DESCRIBING MANS GOVERNEMENT
IT IS CLEAR UPON GODS GOVERNEMENT
Isaiah 9:6
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
According to the US Constitution, the People are the authorities and the government aka Public Servants are the servants. They bow down to us.
Thank you, YHWH and Founding Fathers.
What is YHWH?
Agree about the YHWH nonsense. But 10 yard penalty for use of "pill" as a verb.
We are not a god to be bowed to. We elect, and God places those in authority. Romans 13.
@@firstbaptistchurchaugustaw1931 In saying they bow to us, I am simply using a figure of speech to make my point. The Founding Fathers of the USA made sure to name We the People as the authorities. The elected are the servants. Romans 13 covers us, not the politician.
@@firstbaptistchurchaugustaw1931 God doesn't place anyone in authority, We the people do who have the Right to vote based on our founding Fathers. That's like saying how terrorist attacks happen based on who is in authority...meaning God made it happen which is false.
God however is the reason we have strength. Hence the loss of The South during The Civil War which God allowed true Americans to triumph who are also responsible for The Rights placed on our land. The founding Fathers didn't need God to be victorious they won with the strength they were blessed with and who they enacted as authority.
He was talking about the law of God and the authorities whom govern them
God is pure love and I walk with and no man can change that god is truth and he give us life a great way amen amen amen evil mixes mankind with lies I believe in god he loves me and you hold your faith no matter what evil thinks it got something it don’t exsist it’s denied and only god is life amen
this is why im a christian anarchist, i obey god's law and any law that agrees with the lord! when civil govt. is uncivil im doing something about it!
I am a women who raised my sons alone and the man yet can make sons do wrong when I see what there going thru it stinks foul
Staying home is fear. The mask is fear. We are not defined by fear. Fear is not for Gods people. Let the goats huddle afraid.
So keeping oneself's safe from a pandemic is fear? In that case, is evacuating before a hurricane hits also fear? What about escaping from a war torn country?
@@anonymousdontbotheraboutit2895 don't be ignorant, you know what he's saying. This is so much different than the examples you brought up. People are ABSOLUTELY being fear mongered to stay home and wear a mask all the time otherwise you'll get someone killed. To deny that would be pure dishonesty.
@@anonymousdontbotheraboutit2895how does suffocating yourself with a cloth make you "safe"?
This is within reason. You submit to no governing authority if its corrupt
You have not gotten the true interpretation of ROMANS 13. For the true meaning see my video THEY HAVE BEEN LYING TO YOU ABOUT ROMANS 13. It clearly shows not that you must obey government, but that you must obey God's hierarchy.
God has ordained 4 spheres of authority/governance: self governance; family governance (fathers); church governance (elders); civil governance (kings, presidents, governors, magistrates, etc). Each has its own specific God-assigned sphere, and God is the God of all of them -> they must all give an account to God one day (Rom 14:12; 2 Cor 5:10; Heb 13:17; 1 Pet 4:5; Rom 13:1-5)
Whenever any one of those authorities oversteps its God-ordained sphere of authority, they are defying God. The Christian need not obey them because the Christian has a higher authority, namely, the one who is above all and assigned that role of governance that is being defied.
Those who resist authority are opposed to the ordinance of God. It doesn’t say obey sometimes.
Samuel God said asking for a king is a bad idea. IT’s tantamount to rejecting him
2:41 "love our neighbors as ourselves", steven denun claims that "our neighbors" are foreign countries.
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Love thy neighbor as thyself. Even when ur neighbors r trying to kill u.
Turn the other cheek referes to a punch or slap or kick, or even to being pushed around. Its like going the extra mile when ordered to go one. Its fine, and carrying dudes armor for a mile or 2 is fine, ill be alright.
Dont misinterpret such things.
The jesus who told us to turn the other cheek, is the SAME jesus who told us to keep our sword ready, and if we dont have a sword, then go sell ur coat and buy one.
If u endure harassment and abuse, in a godly manner, then u r being Godlike.
If u defend ur self, ur family, ur property, and ur nation, FROM MURDER AND SLAVERY, then u r being Godlike.
If u allow evil people to do evil to people right in front of u, u r being a sinner. Uv twisted the teachings of Jesus.
The fallen Angels dictate your government's that the common man abides by. The masses have been deceived.
I disagree with Romans 13??? Why should I submit to those demons?? With all the fuckery going on NOT RIGHT NOW!!! NOT RIGHT NOW!!!
Most of christian interpret romans 13 is you must trust a leader at any cause which is Not what romans 13 says, It says we must submitted authroities , the authorities establish is the rules and regulations of the Law, good fair, just and right, . In order that we are Not trouble maker, NOW if the government persicute christian my suggestion that is good term of the government because according to the Bible once a governor persicute us it proves that God is with Us, and we blessed more and more,
It does not make breaking a morally neutral law a sin. Seriously if you think that the legal system can make breaking a morally neutral law a sin you are out of your mind.
Is he computer generated, no emotion, no emotion? I cannot imagine him keeping the attention of his congregation. He may know his stuff, and he seems to, energy is needed.
We have no king. "We the people" are the government
Everything corrupts, the priests, churches, and texts too, ashes and dust. Jesus taught us to rebel against authority. Blind faith is darkness and slavery. Jesus and the snake encouraged us to seek truth, life, and light.
Anyway, it is easy to understand that if gov authority contradict with God's command then we no need to obey the gov authority. In real life, it is not that easy. What about people living in slum area. It is illegal. So how to obey the gov authority in this? To obey gov authority not to live in slum area is not a sin but how to obey as people are poor? Is it a sin to live in slum area because it is disobedient to gov authority?
Deuteronomy 28:42-45
42 Crickets will take over all your trees and your soil's produce.
43 The immigrants who live among you will be promoted over you, higher and higher! But you will be demoted, lower and lower!
44 They will lend to you, but you will have nothing to lend to them. They will be the head of things; you will be the tail.
45 That's how all these curses will come over you, pursuing you, reaching you until you are completely wiped out, because you didn't obey the LORD your God's voice by keeping his commandments and his regulations that he gave you.
The Scriptures teach that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
Yet, our forefathers rebelled against a sitting king.
So, were our forefathers good Christian men or were they witches?
They were good men!
There are circumstances that arise which empower men to push back against an evil power.
Example: Hitler
Jim Jones? Great name you've got there. Anyhow, if you say the Scriptures teach that rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, then explain the 3 Hebrew Boys. Explain Saint Thomas More. Witches? I don't think so. As for Hitler, he was biblically illegitimate since his office stemmed from a rebellion against the last lawful head of state of Germany, Emperor William II. So rebellion against him did not conflict with Romans 13.
Some of them maybe, but I've actually been looking into some of the forefathers such as Jefferson and George Washington and they were definitely not who most think they were..
Are you a 501c3 State Pastor.
If so, that explains your weakness.
Romans 13 does NOT teach unlimited obedience.
It says that Government is a deacon or a servant.
But, when government ceases to be good. Christian's are obligated to speak and live the Truth.
Then why did Jesus disobey the Government and that is why they had him executed!
The man in the video is a heretick
I agree I also believe that for laws morally neutral you can disobey it if you are ready to submit to the penalty if levied
@@marcosazzi7788 amen
Yet another place where the Bible contradicts itself.
God exalts the men a HE wants to rule, but each one has his own freewill, which means he came disobey GOD.
E.g: Saul, acab, etc.
The satanic alexandrian versions perverted this verse. Not every "government" is one. A government that refuses to execute evildoers is not ordained by God.
Most misunderstood Bible verse..
What is your interpretation? Just curious. Personally I am thinking it is submitting to higher powers of god not the worldy governments.
Governing the law of moses and the law of the land (constitution) duh are yall that blind
Yeah cos Saul really submitted to the authorities didn't he.
Nah I'm not submitting. We were given free will. I'll use it for good.
Follow authorities with this virus?
They shut down the churches but keep liquor stores open.. wicked. I've only just heard of Romans 13 I'm trying to understand it
@@ConspiracyCinema Check out KJVM Brian Dellinger he explained it 10 times better. Thumbnail is him with full PPE. To keep it simple no we do listen to the authority when they say we have to wear masks. We listen to the authority when we break the law like killing someone, stealing, robbing or rape.
KJVM Brian Dellinger
Why would anyone need a book to tell them this.. its written in our hearts.. what God do you serve..
And that’s why Jesus fought against the Romans during his arrest, torture, and execution?
Oh wait, he didn’t. When Peter tried to defend the Lord against the representatives of the government, the Lord healed the ear of wounded soldier and told Peter to back down.
Romans 13:1-2
John 18:10-11
...or perhaps this might, just might have had something to do with the fact that Jesus HAD to die on a cross. Paul, on the other hand, didn't have to die a similar death, so this when being taken to be flogged he appealed to the men with the fact that he was a Roman citizen. Thus they then let him go.
I think you meant Origin lived in the mid 2nd century (150CE) not mid First century (50CE)! How on earth can Paul write Romans 13 1-4 if he actually believed Jesus Christ was killed by the Sanhedrin and the Romans? I think the answer is that Paul did NOT believe that Jesus was killed by the Jews or the Romans. After all in all of his 20 000 words in his 7 genuine epistles he never once cites the Romans or the Jews as the killers of Christ! Oh! except for 1 Thessalonians 2: 14-16 but that is almost universally considered an interpolation. That is it was slipped into the text after Paul died by a well meaning christian no doubt frustrated by Paul never naming Christ's killers. If you check in the very earliest Christian documents you will find this curious phenomena is not exclusive to Paul. Any work that predates G.Mark or may predate G.Mark also does not name the killers of Christ. This includes 1 Peter, 1 Clement and Hebrews. The simple fact is that the very earliest Christians did not appear to hold the belief that Romans or Jews killed Christ. This notion appears to be the invention of the author of Mark's gospel. Paul actually names those responsible in 1Corinthians2: 8 and he does not mean earthly authorities! Even if he did, I repeat my question, how could Paul write Romans 13 1-4?
Except Paul says for slaves to "explictly obey your earthly masters with respect and fear" Eph 6:5...Also, Paul states in 1 Peter 2:13 "submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the kind, as supreme..."...I cannot believe this is from Yahweh...I cannot obey these scriptures. Who is Paul really? Also, nice globe earth...deceived.
We obey higher power.- JESUS GOVERNMENT
What seems to be the problem?
`....consequently, whoever REBELS against the authority is REBELLING against God`
Christians are NOT supposed to partake in physical/violent rebellion against ANY government. Christians are suppose to take Jesus`s instruction `Agree with thine adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him` That is why you AGREE with governments WITH THE CONDITION (now insert YOUR terms & conditions in the lawful & peaceful manner) `....for the one in authority is God`s Servant for YOUR GOOD`. When you are the Executor and Beneficiary of the government (man-made) laws, then they are for YOUR good. Is someone supposing that because government laws allow divorce, then Christians are FORCED to divorce....of course NOT. When government laws allow for abortion, do Christians HAVE to kill their own children....of course NOT.
`.....give to everyone what you OWE them`. Are Christian suppose to pay everyone what they DO NOT owe them?.....of course NOT. `.....IF taxes, IF revenue, IF respect, IF honour.....`. The word `if` means CONDITIONAL.
In other words....PAY others what you owe them, so that THEY pay you what they owe you.
GIVE respect to others, so that they give respect to you. IT IS CONDITIONAL.
So we are AS-KING again....What seems to be the problem?
`But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is NO Law`
@BillG Dontjabme
Thank you for your reply.
You are correct.
Our courts are adversarial.
The word/name `ha Satan`=the adversary.
Our courts are satanic.
This is why we are told in Matt. 10:16-` be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves`
This is why you place your Trustees/public-servants under the notification of YOUR terms & conditions of engagement when-ever they enter YOUR company/court/jurisdiction without you summonsing them.
The secret is CONDITIONAL acceptance.
sample: Them- `Give me your id`
You- `YES, CERTAINLY (this eliminates the controversy) it`s just that we charge you $911 per hour for our time to DO that for you and because we have NO-CONFIDENCE with you administrating OUR Trust, payment must be with us immediately`
PS-Would not be best-business-practice to notify, by letter, the Chief-of-Police/District attorney/City/State councillors etc., of YOUR charges for YOUR time and YOUR performance.....after all, THEY are NOT volunteers, so why should you be?
The PEN is mightier than the sword.
Although what do you say to disobeying a morally neutral law such as alcohol being banned from drinking even in moderation?
I say you can disobey it if you are willing to accept the punishment for your crime if they caught you
What’d o you think
@@marcosazzi7788
Thanks for the reply.
You break the law (God`s law, Natural law, Common law) when you cause your fellow man (male/female) injury, damage, loss, harm.
Too often we get distracted by man-made rules & regulations and terms & conditions of employment where there is NO other man being the victim.
Is it not very good common sense to wear a seat belt (it is designed to limit injury) but whom is the VICTIM if you forget or choose not to wear it?
It is simply a monetary penalty if you are the Public-servant....because legislation is for Public-employees.
Does it also apply to YOU whom may be in-the-private? (NOT an official) in other words, an idiot*
*The word "idiot" comes from the Greek noun ἰδιώτης idiōtēs 'a private person, individual', 'a private citizen' (as opposed to an official), 'a common man',
Obey wicked tyrants because reasons.
Acts 5:29. Get your head out of the sand.
Thank you for this message. The alien immigrants are inspiring our USA citizens or residents to be more like them.
Now it make sense the government wrote the bible lol.
Question is something is sinful for an individual to do how does that same thing become not sinful when it's done collectively? How do I love my brother as myself as my Lord commands and rob him at the same time? Government is the beast in Revelation. You cannot serve two masters. Personally if I were to vote I would feel I was committing the same sin as Israel and for Samuel chapter 7 and 8 choosing rule of Man over rule of Christ. As for me I have no king but Christ! Come to think about it when you look at the martyrs throughout history they weren't martyred for being Christ followers they were martyred by the state for treason sedition even cannibalism for taking the sacrament of communion.
This was poorly done. Your early examples of how governments would impede us in expressing our love were preposterous. The type of government on earth at the time of His visitation to us was pretty much irrelevant to Jesus' preaching of the Kingdom.
With reference to our previous comment-
Have you found that over the years, the more you did FOR FREE for your trustees, the more ungrateful, thankless and abusive they have become, so may we politely suggest the following good mental health de-escalation-for-remedy?
Them-`You will do what we tell you to do`
You-`YES, CERTAINLY (this removes the controversy) it`s just that we charge you $911 per hour for our time and also $777 for our performance each in-the-private to do that for you and because we have NO CONFIDENCE with you administrating OUR trust, payment must be with us immediately and any further communicating with us, is with you and your supervisor accepting the terms and conditions because notice-to-agent-is-notice-to-principal`
(This way, you are NOT resisting nor refusing to obey/comply with their orders/requests/policy ....and you have moved the process into negotiation stage and so cannot progress to court)
Be the BUSINESS-man with your trustees....NOT the victim, because there is nothing wrong with any system.....is it not our negligence with not using it for OUR benefit?...by COUNTER-charging.
If your god put these in power, who are you to question it?
The bible is your gods infallible word....
Explain this...
Sorry you guys are on a losing side. But it doesnt matter your life is for god not humanity. You win in the end remember?
It doesn't mean to obey the government. God doesn't appoint rulers on the first hand. If rulers are appointed by God then how can the rulers be prostitutes and corrupted?, So is the God also wicked like the rulers? It's Paul's dialogue who says to obey the government and be submissive to rulers. It is the word of apostles and not the word of God. Jesus was put to death by the rulers and bible says rulers only punish wicked, and so is Jesus wicked according to Paul or Perer? Different people in bible say different things and all those things should not be taken literally. For example paul says a man should have only wife and it was God's plan, and if it was God's plan why did Abraham , Soloman, david and many others had many wives, and why did God not say to them they should have only one wife.
Is it possible Paul got this one wrong? Jesus was the final sacrifice. Why the focus on Romans 13 by those Christian or otherwise, hell bent on justification for encouraging the flock to sacrifice itself in the face of corrupt, unlawful governments. Governments that still act as if we are in the Old Testament, what with the wars, famines, sorcery etc etc. my God until otherwise informed, does not want me to be a human sacrifice for anyone apart from my salvation. Jesus paid that price on the cross so I could be saved. Being born again is waving goodbye to the flesh and walking in the Spirit as a child of the most high. “That’s it, it’s finished. Forgive them father for they know not what they do” was for the mockers at Calgary, perhaps not for the entire World of man’s law as one may interpret. And if it was that? Does it mean invite them into your house to abuse you knowing full well they are not of God. God’s days of wrath and anger are over? God’s seeking of approval by way of flesh sacrifice over? Follow Jesus - He knows
I completely agree Paul got this one completely wrong. I believe that you should not rebel unless you have been appointed by God to lead such as Moses. But when it comes to breaking a morally neutral law I say that you can break it if you accept the penalty if levied as god has said its not and therefore its not.
@@marcosazzi7788 thank you for the reply. Eloquent, succinct and wholesome in my humble opinion.
@@SoundofGugu 💯
@@SoundofGugu like I swear it and then we have churches like Catholicism and orthodox who add there own rules that were never found in the bible and try to portray it as if Jesus would even say it such as the catholic teaching of you can only consume drugs for therapeutic purposes only, even when Jesus never said that and never hinted to it but they’re so idiotic to assume that’s what they know about God. Jesus even makes it clear they are not allowed to extend his teaching as what they seem to disregard is Jesus’s words of “I have not come to abolish the laws of the prophet but to fulfil it” so in this case Jesus grants him alone the authority to deam any action sinful that have either come out of the mouth of Jesus or using his teachings of what is sin to see if the action has it such as selling drugs is it labelled a sin ‘No’ can we use Jesus’s teachings to consider it sin yes.
Throughout history men have rejected being governed by God in favor of being governed by man's secular (God-less) government. The Old Testament is full of stories of the bad things that happen when man governs over man.
The ancient rule by false-priest (Levites),judges, Kings (eventually queens or monarchs), and moderns forms of mob-rule such as "Democracy" or dictatorship, socialism, communism, etc. will never work because man was never meant to rule over other men. Despite the fact that most people will continue to reject God, the New Testament offers salvation through the remedy of Christ.
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV) 1611
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.