✅ TEST RESULTS! Verizon 5G Home Internet New Cube Gateway - External Antenna Speeds - ARC-XCI55AX
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2022
- I add 2x2 and 4x4 external antennas to the Verizon 5G Home Internet, the Arcadyan ARC-XCI55AX to see how the signal and speed improves. I tell you which of the 8 antenna ports on the gateway proved to be the best/fastest for each antenna and just how much it may help your signal and speeds. This helps you get better 4G LTE and 5G UWB (aka C-band) signal. These antennas can be put in the attic or outdoors for the best reception. Note I test the stock gateway and the antennas at nearly the same location/height, the difference in signal/speed would likely be greater if your gateway was say on the ground level and antennas outside at the roof level. To correct a typo on antenna arrangement in the video --- Gateway to Waveform 4x4: J1 to 3, J3 to 4, J4 to 1, J5 to 2. See below for discounts and parts for external antennas.
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Hey Nate: Just finished watching the video this morning. Very good video and very informative as always. Thanks for letting me know that it was available. I have a Waveform 2x2 mimo that I think I will try first, but since I currently have the ASK verizon cube I'll have to see about getting another line in order to get the ARC. I'll let you know how everything goes. Thanks for all your helpful information.
Hey Nate thank you for all your help with these gateways. Order the MIMO 4x4 Panel External Antenna Kit using you as ref. Question have you tried using like the t mobile sim in the verizon gateway or vise versa to see if it does any better?
I've been watching your videos on the 5G Home Internet services/equipment/antennas off and on throughout the day -- Thank you for sharing all the information and time that you spent on this with us! I need to have a viable backup to my COMCAST cable service, and you've made this look very approachable. I ordered the Verizon 5G Home Internet a couple hours ago. I am running a pfSense firewall and the documentation shows that it has a great deal of support for multi-WAN setups. I'm going to give that a try once I have the Verizon 5G up. Thank you again. Awesome work. 👍 QUESTION: Around the 7m30s mark on this video you have antenna connection '1' appearing twice for the 4X4 MIMO -- Where did you connect '3'?
Thanks for the shout-out, Nate 👍 World-class video.
No problem, thanks for the help and viewership!
@@Forza_Exotic They come with the 4x4 MIMO antenna kit from Waveform
Hi Nate. I hope you're well. I ordered Verizon 5G Home Internet on-line. They sent me an ASC gateway which I received 2 days ago. Spoke with a VZW tech because I was having trouble activating the ASK. She fixed in just a couple minutes. She told me that they are only sending-out ASC for on-line orders. She said that ARC gateways can be found in some stores. I asked and she told me where a couple were located at a store in my area. My interaction with the tech was very positive; lots of good information. I went the store and was able to setup new service and they sent me home with an ARC. I made sure to ask if they had ARCs in-stock before starting the order. Thank you for all your help. Next step: order a MIMO antenna. Cheers!
I have had the Verizon gateway a few months now. My house is built inside of a metal building. My only windows face the south with Cell towers along the interstate north of me. Basically a Faraday cage. I could not get any connection at all with the gateway inside the house. I finally found a spot in my shop where it would connect with the doors closed.
One day I was experiencing lots of buffering and ran a speed test. It was about 9mbs. After watching videos of yours about this box, I knew the antennas were all over the box. I went to the shop and rotated the box 1/4 of a turn and re ran the speed test. This time I was averaging 89mbs download. Good enough. If I set the box on a chair about a foot outside the back door the speed jumps to just shy of 300. Perhaps an outdoor enclosure made of plastic or an outdoor antenna will be in my future.
Hi! Great videos on your channel here Nater Tater! When installing the 2x2 MIMO antenna, you used J5 & J6. Waveform seems to recommend J1 & J3. Did you find your combo to be better for 2x2, or was that just because the 4x4 had J1 & J3 occupied in this test setup?
I tested many configuration and shared my best performance. I recommend you to test out both and see which works best for your signal.
Nate, thanks for your wealth of knowledge. Been watching your videos for the last couple of days trying what to do about our TMobile home internet. We don't really have the means to get on our roof (it's a geodesic dome ;-) do you think mounting an external antenna at ground level would be worthwhile? My other thought would be to have my handyman mount an omni directional antenna on an old tv antenna tower we have that's well above the roof line. Thanks!
Hi Verna, the tv tower is the best place for it BUT I'd highly suggest a directional over omni antenna. See mine on my tv tower here: th-cam.com/video/IEvWOywIh1Q/w-d-xo.html you'll need to do a little research to confirm the direction of the tower you connect to. I have many videos on that. Here's one th-cam.com/video/D1OoJqEc4os/w-d-xo.html
excellent video as always. But may I ask, why dont you test speeds by connecting your cellphone directly to the router with a USB C to ethernet adapter? Using wifi may affect speeds. Plugging into the router directly will give you the truest speed of the router
"what you watching?"
"Another man lay down on his stomach and run network tests out of his attic."
"Was it good?"
"Hell yeah it was."
There's a niche for everything
I have a 4g lte one and it is also an arc unit, I'm tempted to get in there now and modify it
Hi Nate, Just wondering... I have the TMHI KVD21 connected to a 4X4 Waveform. Have you tried connecting your 4X4 AND the 2X2 Waveform to the KVD21 with the 2X2 on those 2 unassociated antenna ports?
I have not, I did plug in some of the unused stock antennas to those 2 extra ports (5&6) and saw a minor change in signal improvement.
Excellent tests. Looks like the 2x2 is the best for cost vs download speed over the 4x4 cost vs download speed.
Yes it appears so for my specific case. The one challenge with cellular is it varies so greatly location to location.
@@NaterTater well I'll look into a 2x2 when I get a 5g node in my area. I'm stuck on 4g lte for same price as 5g. Not great but what can you do right? I mean t mobile has 5g out here but they don't participate in acp and Verizon does. That makes a huge difference since I don't have a phone plan with either t mobile or Verizon.
I live in an area with 5g ultra wide band avalaible, and I haven’t tested it hard wired yet because my pc isn’t there yet but I got 13 upload on my phone and 51 download. I’m wondering what is the best unit in your experience for upload speeds? I have good coverage from all providers where I am in a big city. I’d rather just go with gig speeds from cable but I stupidly signed a lease to a new apartment unaware they don’t even have cable internet available… never in my life have I seen that didn’t even think to check. I guess they are updating to fiber soon but I like to stream to twitch tv. Are these things capable of streaming to twitch? If I also hooked up an antenna system.
Hey Nate, just swapped out my ASK unit for an ARC. Would adding external antennas right at the cube improve speeds? Something like 9dBI 38 cm long antennas like you would add to a router that only has internal antennas? I currently get -105 or so 5G signal strength. In the middle of the night I might get 250 Mbps or better download, during the day it will average under 100 Mbps. Upload is less time of day dependent, with 20 Mbps a good number, down to 10 Mbps, average around 15 Mbps.
maybe but I wouldn't bank on it. one of the big improvements is being able to place the antenna outside or the attic to get a cleaner signal.
Thanks!
I have the simple mobile version of this device. Seemed like a perfect fix for my slow dsl issues.
Thanks to this video I took it apart and added external antennas.
A 2x2 and a 4x4 from waveform.
If signal was a Pie chart showing the towers in my area "cells" my part if the pie is empty.
So my signal can work but 32mbs is the highest I can get.
All antennas are wave form.
I have a we boost that does a great job boosting signal.
I connected it to a port on the router. My signal went from -110 to a -42 for 4g. No 5g.
Any idea how you can have such a good signal and still a slower speed?
If I take it up town and drive around I get 100mbs down and 14 up and it's at -98
I was hoping the -42 would translate to a higher speed.
Very informative! So theoretically if I got an "SMA Cable Splitter" and attached all U.FL cables to one cable that wouldn't work? also, what if I only attach one U.FL to the line and try to find the fastest one...Is there a way to prioritize the best input that you know of?
A splitter wont work. MIMO need different antenna arrays tuned for cross polarization. You really want a 4x4 MIMO (4 cables) but 2x2 can suffice.
Hey Nater quick question. in the video you have J1 to 1 & J4 to 1. I assume the missing number is 3. Currently tinkering with the 4x4 mimo from waveform myself trying to get a useable speed.
Also wondering about this myself
@@MrMasterChrisXbox I found it didnt make a tremendous difference for me. I never could get a tremendous speed boost I did however improve stability greatly. Sadly I'm still rocking at like 70/10 most of the time and the min is supposed to be 80/10 but verizon is dirt cheap where I'm at and the speed is useable since I don't game.
Gateway to 4x4: J1 to 3, J3 to 4, J4 to 1, J5 to 2
You know the exact (or near enough exact) frequencies these antennas are supposed to resonate at. Have you checked that the ones you are replacing them with have a good VSWR? (Do you have a VSWR meter?) I also noticed your cable is very long. Is this high quality cable or something cheap? (Are these LMR-400 cables?) Even if they are high quality, I'd use shorter cables to improve your signal strength.
those cables sure ARENT LMR-400. and would be interesting to see what the VSWR is. longer the cable the more loss and especially with cheap cable.
My apologies if you've already answered this question, but have you done any testing with the n66 band? Any idea where I can find a 40GHz antenna that would improve 5GUW signal strength?
Here's some testing with mmWave th-cam.com/video/kWFD39rffEo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=u3p5NJeHpQQi4M6b you wont find many (any?) External antennas for that high freq since there is so high signal loss in cables at that frequency.
Hey Nater quick question. in the video you have J1 to 1 & J4 to 1. Could you please confirm what goes to 1 and 3 please 🤔
Gateway to 4x4: J1 to 3, J3 to 4, J4 to 1, J5 to 2
Nate: Ordered another line from Verizon and checked the My Verizon App this morning to check on the order. Well, it appears I'm going to get the ASK-NCQ1338FA instead of the ARC. Do you happen to know anything about this model? I can't find out anything about it; like can you attach an external antenna. Please let me know, thanks
No external antennas on the ASK. th-cam.com/video/mjiNSOd7DBc/w-d-xo.html
What is J0? Is it LTE or 5G?
Thanks,
Hey Nater. When you first started with this process, what were your speeds and latency? Also, what were they before you had 5G? I live in a rural area around 4-5 miles from the nearest Verizon tower and currently have the ARC Verizon gateway. Just trying to decide what route to take with an antenna from Waveform. Thanks
Speed and latency will vary by user. What is true for all users is the speed throttles Verizon has of 100/15mbps and 300/20mbps depending on regular or plus 5G plans. If you are getting less than that the antenna will help.
@@NaterTater oh yeah, I'm definitely getting less than that. I get around 30-40 DL and 1-3 UL recently. I used to get what I was supposed to get (50 DL/5 UL) until the past 6 weeks or so. In my situation, would you choose the 4x4 mini or pro? Thanks
@bryanhaddock6929 pro will be better but a mini outside will get to your throttle.
So the mini will get to the 100/15 mark on lte home internet?
@bryanhaddock6929 yes it should. It of course depends on lots of things but that sounds very plausible in your situation.
Thank you. Can anyone recommend a waterproof and weather appropriate cable pass through for my residential wall?
While I'm not sure of a device to install. Most coax installers will get a plastic gromet with a hole that Is barbed and you drill a hole. Shove the barbed grommet in.. shove the coax through then silicone it well. Also install drip loops.
They do make a thin cable that has screw connections on each end but they are thin. They fit through a window then you can close the window.. and run it that way with no drilling
Hello Nate.
Because T-Mobile was so bad and almost no support I left them. And there is no other ISP in this area I live. With that being said I am keeping the tablet plan for the home phone line link device. But the BIG NEWS is that I went with STARLINK and been using it for about a week now. I am in a area that is not completely covered for now but it is a lot better than T-Mobile. Yes it is quite pricey @ $135.00 a month for the RV package. Plus about $600.00 for the gateway and dish. BUT my speeds are fantastically fast with at times with over 400Mbs down and about 14-18Mbs upload and ping about 20-40ms.
I am still coming here to watch you and your shenanigans. In witch I enjoy very much by the way. I just wanted to let you know why I haven't posted for a while. I will like I said be back with your new videos because have you on alerts. Take care my TH-cam friend.... Dave
Glad you got something working well for you Dave! Starlink is a great option if you are OK with the price (and/or have no other good option!). Thanks for watching!
i had starlink ,tv and internet was good,, but the pin from 39 to 100 ..
for online games was horrible
@pepe58 pepito how is the ping with 5g?
Just set mine up, i've got TMHI and a 4x4 waveform already but TM hasn't moved my service address properly (even though I did everything they told me to) so i'm worried i'll get booted by them when they geofence next month. Low and behold verizon was available to me now so picked it up. I'm a good ways from the tower with some trees, -112 signal before the antennae, -100 flat afterwards. Wish I could see the rest of the signal metrics but they don't let you it seems. Speeds went from low 200s to 310mps down and biggest improvement in the upload of 3-4mbps up to 10-20mbps with the antennae (a far cry from the 40-60 up I get on TMHI though). Now i'm just waiting to see if they deprioritize the speeds at night. Last 2 nights without the waveform speeds would drop from 200 daytime down to 10-20 down during peak, if that still happens even with the waveform verizon must have serious throttling/prioritization issues. We'll see how that all goes. One nice upside of the verizon unit is it has proper routing control/bridge mode which the tmobile doesn't.
I think you will be happy with the verizon and 4x4. Should work well. Note they throttle at 300/20 mbps so dont expect more.
@@NaterTater Little update if you were curious (which you're probably not). T-mobile actually has a "legacy" internal system for older customers where my address wasn't up to date, but in the newer systems it was, they were able to update it so no risk of being kicked off via geofencing. So now I actually just get to chose t-mobile for $50/month or verizon for $70/month. TMHI price locked for life, Verizon just for a few years. Over the past few days the verizon with waveform in all offpeak is maxed out at 300/20 almost all the time but during peak drops to the 100-200/15 range. Verizon will also every few days drop off 5g completely until it's rebooted. I'd say on average the verizon is beating tmobile in speeds and ping but as the service expands around here who knows how long that'll last. Generally both are running super well so probably no good reason to pay the extra $20/month though I do really like verizon's hardware a lot more with the arc-cube. I'll track speed tests for verizon for a full week then go back to TMHI and do the same and compare.
@Avboden thanks for the update!
check this out, i took the whole box into a weather proof box and put it inside an old satellite dish and kept moving it around until i got the strongest signal... i then put a mesh accesspoint in that same box with it and bridged it to the rest of my mesh network...I went from NO internet(2-10mbps) to 200-300 next to the main accesspoint and 150 mbps in the rest of the house. Verizon said not available in my area so i got it under a different address.
hi joe can you send me a picture how you have it , in the weather proof box
@pepe58pepito54 lol ill try to take a picture, its actually a gun case and i just added 2 ventilating fans and an exhaust vent to it. If i open it , it falls since its not held up in there its just sitting in the box and i close the box cover on it...ill try going on the roof and take pics
@@yousefhamed lol mines actually in a tidy cats litter bucket on the roof.
We have Verizon Wireless now but have Starlink internet because we are very rural. We usually get one bar of LTE inside our house. Would this setup with the antenna outside boost our signal enough to use the Verizon box for our home internet? Starlink is pretty fast for download but the upload is horrible.
yes it would but honestly its much easier to move the SIM card to a 3rd party router. like th-cam.com/video/3belU1bmEh0/w-d-xo.html
Hi Nate, I'm planning to change my internet provider to Verizon...can I connect my Wi-Fi 6 mesh instead of using the Verizon???
yes. th-cam.com/video/GKbBI38MML8/w-d-xo.html
Is the 2x2 antenna different for Verizon vs t-mobile had the 2x2 antenna on tmobile bought my speeds from 30 to 140-200 tried same 2x2 antenna as the connections on this video and it actually got slower on Verizon i moved it around best it got was 5g -105 and only 50 down 7 up
Same antenna but 4x4 might be needed!
I just installed my home 5g & only get 25mb down & the tower is 450 yds away, on phone with numerous tech support for 3 hrs they couldn't figure it out, I went into the verizon box settings & found under modem I had 0.0 signal for 5g . I may have a defective box will call tech back Monday, hopefully they will replace it
You ever get this sorted out? I'm exactly double your distance from a 100' 4G LTE tower and I get the same garbage download speeds at best. How close do you have to be for these things to actually work without some kind of hack or a booster anyhow?
Good video, Verizon not available here, can you tell me how to fool the availability criteria?
They determine availability based off the service address. Shipping and billing can be different than that.
I'm in the same situation as you. Verizon signal in my area but 5G home not available for my address. I put in a service address where I knew there was UWB but had it shipped to my home. It does work but I don't have UWB at my home so my speeds are usually 50-70 down and 4-8 up. It's been fast enough to run my entire home with lots of devices and multiple people streaming regularly.
Do you have the bridge mode option in your router? verizon kb article 301824 (Admin Page > Advanced > Network Settings > Network Connections > Network (Home/Office) > Settings > IP Passthrough)? I got this modem recently and it did not have the option but the kb article says it should exist. Verizon techs were baffled.
Which model cube do you have? The SKU on the bottom. And software version?
The software version is written on the outside of the box of the router. So if one wants to check it at the store you can.
i have the ask nater ..did you open one of them already they dont have the ports ?
Yes the Askey cube does not have the external antenna ports.
Hey I've watched a couple of your videos is there a way to use an area available address and have it running at an unavailable address I really want this but they tell me it's unavailable in my area so do you have any advice as to how to acquire one of these and run it at my house while keeping it on my current Verizon plan any info would be greatly appreciated thanks
The "service address" determines availability. It works wherever there is signal (including not at the service address).
@Nater Tater hey thanks for replying! So if I get service on my cellphone this thing should as well? Now I gotta figure out who I know I can send this thing too lol
@Nater Tater also should I activate it get it up and running at the delivery address the "coverage address" before I turn it on at the address I'm going to be using it
@@bryantblackwell1339 that is the best plan if available
@@NaterTater should I activate it for the first time at the available address or the address I'm going to use it at
Hey Nater I bought one of these just about a hour ago and it was working but now that I took it apart it don’t wanna turn on any advice
Sorry but thats hard to diagnose remotely. Make sure nothing is obviously cracked/broken on the board or power connection.
My address didn't qualify even though I get 5GUW at my house so I used a house address close to the tower as my service address just to get my cube. The cube works good at my house (250 to 350MB download and 25 to 50 MB upload upstairs and 100 to 200MB download and 5 to 10MB upload downstairs). I have it downstairs because that's where my router is and I have several hardwired devices plugged into it. Have you tried to change your 5G home service address to your actual address after a month or so? I would like the service address to be my actual address, but I don't want to mess anything up.
I have not and I see zero benefit to moving it. You will be asked questions when you move the address.
@@NaterTater Guess I will just live with it this way. Thank you for the feedback.
You cannot change the addresses to match. The system will recognize that your home address doesn't qualify for the service. Even the Verizon reps can't change it to match... I tried.
So if you get the wrong model you can’t do any external antenna or booster?
You can do a booster with either (like th-cam.com/video/bboYE4qcfDM/w-d-xo.html) but yes only the ARC supports external antennas
We had century link for several years, but download and upload speeds were horrible for my son to play video games. With the new Verizon home plus we now have great uploads and downloads with pings around 20-25. But my son says the latency sucks really bad. How do I fix this issue
Make sure the game console he is on has good wifi or ethernet connection. What latency is thr game/console say he gets? 20-25ms is very good and I would not expect better on cellular.
So I try field tests and I get around -115 to -125 rsrp and sometimes the stock ASK router will get 30 meg download then 2 minutes later its down to 1 meg. how is that?
That's what I get with this thing and I'm only .6 miles away from a 100' tall cell tower which only transmits 4G at the moment. I don't understand how anyone is getting these speeds unless they live underneath one of these towers. I drove to within 100yds. of the tower and it was blazing fast, but anothewr 1/2 mile away and it's garbage.
What should I do if my area shows Verizon nor T-mobile are available? Will I still be able to get the gateway and use it? Thank you!
Tmobile home internet is available wherever there is signal (th-cam.com/video/nxtEk-pccIM/w-d-xo.html) but unlimited data only in some areas. For either if you find an address that it is available then ship it to your house to use. In person at a store may help there.
@@NaterTater Thank you for your help! Verizon has a much better signal at where I live, do you know if they can provide me a gateway or no? I’m also looking for connecting that to a 4x4 antenna, do you know which model works the best? I appreciate your help!
T-Mobile's website said it wasn't available at my address. I called anyway, and now I'm paying less for more. $50 flat rate unlimited, 60-80MB down.
So I have the ask model, tried to go to the store and get a arc model and there telling me it won’t work where I live. My issue being I need the 4x4 antenna because I can only get 5Guw while I stand on my roof. Anyone else have this issue? Will the arc model work at my house?
Steve, you can take the sim card out of thr ASK and put it in the Chester Cheetah router. You can add an external antenna is needed to further improve signal th-cam.com/video/3belU1bmEh0/w-d-xo.html
I order the verizon cube , but I don't get signal ..do you recommend that antena or return the verizon cube..
Does verizon's coverage map show you have signal? Do you get verizon signal on a cell phone?
@@NaterTater yes I get verizon cell signal, that is the service I got now... but when I put the address for the home 5g box it say not available...but they sold it to me at the store..
Will I need male or female connectors to attach to this Verizon box?
links in the video description
Verizon needs to work on a new one with external antennas that come with the device. It makes sense or a device that we can get for free that can boost cell signal for both 4G and 5G. Kind of like the Sprint Magic Box back in the day. I kind of miss those days. But when 5G rolled out Carriers discontinued them. But the main issue I hear from Verizon Customer is poor Service. According to Verizon they only guarantee outdoor signal. Then you have TMO that has low and mid-band frequencies that can penetrate through walls very well. I do believe Verizon's main issue is there more focused on high frequencies and I don't think they have the low in mid bands as much as much as TMO has and this is for a lot of people causeing issues especially the ones that live out in the country and might be more than one mile from the tower. In my case I have line of sight of one of the Verizon towers that serves my local area here in Michigan out in the country and I am 1 mile but it seems like anything farther than that and you start losing your cell phone bars.
verizon does have one that has an external antenna but it's not available to everyone
Is there a sim card in there so I could put in a different route
No. eSIM
I was getting 35-54mbps download with my 2x2 antenna the lowest my signal went was 101.3db not it’s not going lower than 105-108 and I’m only getting speeds of 5-12mbps I’m not sure where my tower is located I used the weBoost app and pointed the antenna in that direction and it worked yesterday consistently now it’s slow my open signal app says my tower is the other direction than what weBoost says I really need help with this
What 2x2 are you using and what ports are you connecting it to on the gateway?
@@NaterTater it’s a 2x2 signal plus it’s not a high end but it works it’s getting 20mbps right now but the games are still high ping and yesterday I hit 52mbps was wondering how I could truly find the right direction to point and mount the antenna. It isn’t mounted on the roof it’s on the ground as of now will get on roof this afternoon to mount it later
@@NaterTater the ports I connected to are 1 and 6 I believe
How do you know the 5G is C-Band/Millimeter rather than 5G Nationwide?
A few ways, one is this cube doesnt receive mmWave so its c-band or nationwide, another is looking at verizon's map for coverage, another is the speed which should be a good indicator. But a band readout on the webui would be the best but its not there.
I was sent the ask version. Which version is the mmWave version?
the ASK. ARC is the newer one that came out June 2022 and does not have mmWave.
Both ASK and ARC cube shaped gateways do not support mmWave.
@@NaterTater It's true, I'm thinking of whatever came before the ASK.
@@jamesspinella7053 ASK is shorthand for Askey (the brand) and they do make mmWave units but neither verizon cube supports mmWave. Here is the mmWave window mount unit th-cam.com/video/fJg45NU9rVY/w-d-xo.html
Do you know if verizon home lte gets deprioritized? Because my internet gets a solid 50 download and 6 up at night then early in morning rest of day it gets worse like in afternoon sometimes i wont even have 2mbs download. I had the service for like a year no problem solid 50 download entire time till few weeks ago. Trying to find a solution cuz only internet option at my rural location lol
It is throttled at the 50mbps down but i dont think they deprioritize. Have you reached out to verizon?
@@NaterTater yeah the sent me out new router so I set up new line and same problem lol. It works perfect at night then poorly in same exact spot during day. I used my friend address who lives mile from me so not really sure what else they would do
@@NaterTater ended up signing up for t-mobile home internet get 300mbs download now lol. Works amazing. Had to use a friends address though but when I check on my account it has my actual address as the usage address then my friends is the e911 address it wont let me change it thru the app. Is there anyway to change that or is it fine leaving it?
@@bm8741 Hey. So you have had no issues with using your friend's address? And it works fine for you at your home address? Thanks
So i cant try this on the ASK model?
yes but there are no useable antenna ports th-cam.com/video/cRbRxXVThMA/w-d-xo.html
Yo I have the straight talk home internet cap at 100 up and 10 down I was wondering if I can mod it like this ? It's the same box but different services
You can't. They do that on their network.
@NaterTater I mean will the Antenna mod still work
Tp have a stable connection
@@trynottodie488 an antenna will help you get to the 100/10 Mbps throttle if you aren't there yet. It won't make you go faster than the throttle though.
how do you get the router that gives 300mbps minimum and up to 1gb mbps maximum from verizon? on their website it shows 5g plus but it says only 85mbps to 300?
You need mmWave signal for that
@@NaterTater is the cube router capable of those speeds? I saw in another youtube video that Verizon has a "5g internet gateway" which isnt a cube but a wall mount instead and stated only that one does 300 minimum up to 1gb mbps.
@@JamesSmith-en7en the cube cannot connect to mmwave signals. Verizon's c-band speeds tend to be around 300mbps. I've seen 470mbps tops. I test and compare the 4g lte, 5g c-band and 5g mmwave (with window/wall mount gateway). See my playlist Verizon Wireless Home Internet: th-cam.com/play/PL8d9FovK2dNSOcTz7L6sHiuWVQXwUT4my.html
so what should i focus on if my 4g signal is -111 and my 5g signal does not exist
i get like 2mbps anything better would be great
In order to duplicate your experiment, one needs information about the antenna cables - how long are they and what is their signal loss per foot to/from the antennas. Signal attenuation within the antenna cable can be difficult. Usually a rule of thumb is the shorter the antenna cable, the stronger the signal is into the gateway from the antenna. Can't tell from the video how long the antenna cables are and what the attenuation per foot is at 3.8 GHz.
Hey Jim, very valid points. We could talk for hours about the details! I cover details about the antenna kits in other videos like th-cam.com/video/ED4a913fOl0/w-d-xo.html for thr 4x4. It has 30ft of LMR-240 equivalent cabling which per www.qsl.net/co8tw/Coax_Calculator.htm shows close to a 5dB loss for 3.8 Ghz. Certainly not insignificant and illustrates how placement can still outweigh that heavy loss.
Can u help me these download speeds your getting would be awesome but the most I get on mine is average 28mps😢😢😢
My channel is here in a large part to help! Check out some other videos on Verizon to see if they answer some quesions:Verizon Wireless Home Internet: th-cam.com/play/PL8d9FovK2dNSOcTz7L6sHiuWVQXwUT4my.html
We are getting 300+ mbs on the Verizon 5G gateway without any external modification
Yes the typical speed is 300/20Mbps for n77 band and verizon is good at limiting who can sign up for it. Meaning they have good confidence the address can get that speed. However for some users in different circumstances they may need an antenna to get appropriate speed.
@@NaterTater I was getting 450+ at night 😄
I ordered 4G but Verizon will not let me order 5G what can I do?
Wait til they make it available or go to a verizon corporate store and see if they can accommodate.
Isn't j7 the gps antenna?
Sounds right, i dont remember off hand but it was one of the higher integers.
@@NaterTater In the video you said you were using j7 with the 2x2 for 5g?
Them attenas didn't do much
I was getting 180-290 download my first 3 weeks now I'm getting 50-100 and doesn't seem to climb anymore any ideas
Have you checked the signal info? Have you moved the gateway or tried to add external antennas?
@@NaterTater5g is -89 4g is 64.8 I did try moving it around as well
@p0weraid are you in a "available" area for verizon home internet or did you have to pick a different service address?. Typically verizon is pretty good at having the availability in approved areas.
@@NaterTater I'm in a available area, and there is actually a tower down the street from my house that I can see but the guy at the Verizon store said only 5 boxes can connect to a single tower not sure if that's true
@p0weraid they definitely limit how many per tower. I dont know the number. But if others have it and arent supposed to be located there it can cause a slow down for you.
test Speed Verizon high speed internet MAX 300MPS MAX 20MPSWFT MY MOBILE TEST VERIZON 1500MPS WOW 77 BAND
Yes, vzw throttles home internet but not the phone (depending on plan and uselage).
Do you happen to know what connectors does only C-band 5G?
To make it simple, I get great 4G signal, but OK to poor 5G signal.
Here is the long info. I am getting -65 to -73 with the 4G side of things, but -103 to -112 with 5G in my attic space, and the speeds are great too, but I do not want to leave the device in my attic space since it gets hot there. I found a space that is not in the attic, but the 5G signal is worse. On the shelf, I can get -76 to -83 with the 4G, but -115 to nothing on 5G. The speeds is about 1/2 to 1/4 less compared to the attic space.
I can not use a window like the manual says since the low e storm windows is blocking the signal for me at least. The signal strength is about the same as the windows, but for 4G is a little worse.
Come to find out, Verizon only has only one C-Band 5G tower in my area so far that I can connect to easily which is around one mile away. I know I have nationwide 5G since my phone connects to it here, but come to find out Verizon is using two different styles of 5G here. Come to find out, the ARC cube does not connect to the one type of 5G.
The 4G signals is from a small cell that is one block away from me which is the same tower that my phone gets nationwide 5G from too.
So I am thinking that I need mod the device for 5G only. So I need to figure out if it is possible too before I order some hardware for this modding.
It uses what is called 5G NSA (non standalone) which means it needs a 4G LTE anchor. So you can't have just 5G. The instructions in this video and/or on Waveform's guide is the best solution to your question. Add antennas in the attic and leave the cube in conditioned space.
@@NaterTater Which connectors is just for C-Band 5G tho? I have not figure that out.
Lot of the people are only talk about LTE bands for better signal which I do not need to worry about.
Looks like I might need only need a 2x2 panel from what FCC documents say, but I am not sure.
I do understand 5G NSA and 5G SA, but I would have thought this would be able use 5G NSA tho.
I have another idea to get a waterproof box and install the box inside the waterproof box because I can get -80 to -85 just setting it outside for a baseline test. This was only six inches off the ground too. I can get a bit better higher tho.
The issue with the waterproof box is I do not like making CAT6 cables. For some reason one or two pins do not make good connections. Plus I am not sure on the heat too.
I know things about RF or etc since I used TV antennas and ham radio too.
@@NaterTater I have been reading the FCC documents deeply for the last week or so. I believe I found the C-band antennas finally.
Could you test connector 5 and 6 with a 2x2 panel?
I just want some type of verified info before I order a 2x2 antenna system since I am short in money right now.
@advcomp2019 in this video around 15:20 I show thr 2x2 best configuration
@@NaterTater You said J6 and J7 in that video.
From what I can see with the FCC documents, J5 and J6 is the C-band 5G, and J7 is the GPS.
A few hours ago, I finally found a FCC document that talks about the C-band 5G antennas. Somehow I overlooked it three times somehow because I looked that the documents many times.
How many different ways can we sell an antenna . Every video these days is geared only to sell something.
But
10:50 The video was going fine until this cringe moment. Don't connect/disconnect antennas while the equipment is on! You'll blow out your LNA and PA!