As a Eastern Washington resident, most of us in EW want to separate from awful Western Washington. I suspect people of North California feel the same toward South California for similar reasons.
@@BonesTheCat Not wrong, but my neighborhood is divided into lots, each resident is allowed their own personal beliefs and items etc. But we are still one big neighborhood made up of respected borders. Problem though is; as groups shrink, it becomes more tribal out there. That's how gangs start. Then organizations. Seeps into local politics,, etc. You see more and more different groups, and some WANT to clash with others who may not want to. Unless there's a war to force people together, I think cracks between tribes will continue to spread until people are either content with the way things turn out, or there's absolute mayhem until surrender.
@@BonesTheCat see the recent trend of Californians fleeing that collapsing state for Texas, and immediately importing all the attitudes that make California a hot mess.
Radical change is irresponsible. Gradual, methodical adjustments are better suited. The narcissism of people that think they know better than the billions that came before them is unbelievable.
Bret is on record supporting the ethnic replacement of Europeans and European Americans in their own countries and homelands most of his people do just checkout Barbra lerner spectre
I acknowledge that there is a diminishing return of enjoyment as one makes more and more money or has more and more wealth. I further agree that sending the excess to others would help them more than it hurts the person sending it. What I don’t understand about Brett is his comfort with the government setting the levels of when too much is too much and when too little is too little. The incentive for politicians is to constantly gin up anger against the rich.... and to constantly lower the bar of what rich is. The incentive for voters is to claim victimhood so they can receive government spoils. The above is why culture and cultural institutions are important. Help your neighbor, but do the right things so you don’t become in need of your neighbor’s help. Social institutions (families, charities) can help each other based on mission and general guidelines, not rules. This discretion is what social fabric is all about. Yet, we are moving in a direction where government does everything. Government operates by rules... but then it is criticized for not using discretion that isn’t clearly allowed by the law. Govt officials are then nailed in both directions when they do or don’t (e.g. Follow the law, stop illegal immigration. Ignore the law, illegal immigrants are good people.... and you’re a racist if you follow the law. Arrest people for drug offenses, because that’s the law. Don’t arrest people for drug offenses, because the law is stupid. Oh, and if more people are arrested/not arrested for drug offenses by race, it’s racism).
I find that the more I (read, research, listen) to content like this, the more I realize how disengaged and misinformed the general public is. It’s very discouraging.
Great point. I wonder if this Brett guy thinks about it like that. Like .maybe some of his ideas have created this "monster" he's having to defend himself against
Editors, given the ending . . . a little humility goes a long way. Jordan's listeners already know he has a aura of greatness about him. this ending struck me as unnecessary aggrandisement.
Big parts of american society unfortunately still are pathologically and unreasonably right wing. Big parts of american universities are pathologically and unreasonably left wing. I hope Canada is a bit more sane. Can the us get less extreme? Thank god our universities in Europe are not that ridiculous yet.
Canada's (heavily subsidized) universities are petri dishes of intersectional collectivist doublespeak, where identity politics is the most important subject. Their idea of"diversity" is a student body of varied scin tones, genders, and ethnicities but all united by hiveminded reductive social justice> One major political party in Canada is so obsessed with identity politics that it no longer has any actual platform beyond that. Google "Gerry Taft" for just one example of how a party member had to disclose his sexual preference to the party politburo in order to keep his job. Canada is bad and getting worse. Credit due, in part, to the vacuous, knee-taking, occasionally-serious-faced, ever contrite (but never for his own transgression) and always woke paternalistic cretin twice elected PM.
Bret chose his moment perfectly at Evergreen. He had been there for years and had attended the “segregation” event many, many times. There are photos of him going along with it. He chose to protest it at the exact moment that right was beginning to have some purchase on podcasts and social commentary shows. He isn’t a man to respect, he’s a calculating academic who made a name for himself, protesting something when it became expedient
i know you can see it any-old-way-y'choose it! but that backbeat, you can hardly lose that! he went-to-bat, timing is no small element of bein' successful at that!
That's not how it went. I agree with your statement about being part of the creation of the problem and his involvement, but he did stand and oppose it when he saw where it was going. He was an employee of Evergreen. It was his job to follow the mandate. He was dragged into conversations about it after the lawsuit was concluded. He was initially reluctant to get involved after what he just went through. He didn't just stroll out of the situation smiling and handing out business cards. It ruined his and his wife's lives as they had known since beginning leaving high school and going to university themselves. And if he eventually found a place to talk, so fucking what? You're suggesting "shooting" anyone involved in "Leftism" (in what ends as the worst of Communism) as opposed to Liberal is as dangerous and intellectually retarded as the Leftists they're talking about.
it seems to me that that word, 'liberal', has been all twisted-'round in some people's minds who would fight-to-the-death against your right to disagree with them
Interesting discourse 🙏 two great minds
Great quote to close on!!
“You saw with absolute clarity what others couldn’t ever imagine”
Jordan Peterson and Bret Weinstein are both interesting and thoughtful men.
As a Eastern Washington resident, most of us in EW want to separate from awful Western Washington. I suspect people of North California feel the same toward South California for similar reasons.
Running won't fix it. Just makes your area smaller and smaller and smaller.
@@BonesTheCat Not wrong, but my neighborhood is divided into lots, each resident is allowed their own personal beliefs and items etc. But we are still one big neighborhood made up of respected borders. Problem though is; as groups shrink, it becomes more tribal out there. That's how gangs start. Then organizations. Seeps into local politics,, etc. You see more and more different groups, and some WANT to clash with others who may not want to. Unless there's a war to force people together, I think cracks between tribes will continue to spread until people are either content with the way things turn out, or there's absolute mayhem until surrender.
@@BonesTheCat see the recent trend of Californians fleeing that collapsing state for Texas, and immediately importing all the attitudes that make California a hot mess.
@@ML-dl1cp I had family flee Colorado because it was being changed by Californians. It's sad.
@@QuitYourCryin As a Californian, I'm sorry. Half of the things people vote for here baffle my mind.
Radical change is irresponsible. Gradual, methodical adjustments are better suited. The narcissism of people that think they know better than the billions that came before them is unbelievable.
If you're watching this and just hearing of this story for the first time, you haven't been paying attention for years.
Exactly
You don't know what you don't know until you know it.
New people growing up and/or becoming aware happens daily. Not everyone spends much of their day online.
Why would I lol
evergreen! sounds like a dream! it's a long story! i gotta get better at tellin' those! you guys're good! respecto!
Evergreen spilled over to all our college campuses. ESP the most so called liberal ones
Loved!
DEI. I can't think of a more heinous idea applied in schools and universities.
I kind of knew this was bait to get me to watch the entire podcast.
Bret is on record supporting the ethnic replacement of Europeans and European Americans in their own countries and homelands most of his people do just checkout Barbra lerner spectre
Universities just are carving their tombstones.
SHOTS every time Bret says "Evergreen"...Forever!
I acknowledge that there is a diminishing return of enjoyment as one makes more and more money or has more and more wealth. I further agree that sending the excess to others would help them more than it hurts the person sending it. What I don’t understand about Brett is his comfort with the government setting the levels of when too much is too much and when too little is too little. The incentive for politicians is to constantly gin up anger against the rich.... and to constantly lower the bar of what rich is. The incentive for voters is to claim victimhood so they can receive government spoils.
The above is why culture and cultural institutions are important. Help your neighbor, but do the right things so you don’t become in need of your neighbor’s help. Social institutions (families, charities) can help each other based on mission and general guidelines, not rules. This discretion is what social fabric is all about.
Yet, we are moving in a direction where government does everything. Government operates by rules... but then it is criticized for not using discretion that isn’t clearly allowed by the law. Govt officials are then nailed in both directions when they do or don’t (e.g. Follow the law, stop illegal immigration. Ignore the law, illegal immigrants are good people.... and you’re a racist if you follow the law. Arrest people for drug offenses, because that’s the law. Don’t arrest people for drug offenses, because the law is stupid. Oh, and if more people are arrested/not arrested for drug offenses by race, it’s racism).
I find that the more I (read, research, listen) to content like this, the more I realize how disengaged and misinformed the general public is. It’s very discouraging.
When radical professors realize they can’t control the monster they created.
Great point. I wonder if this Brett guy thinks about it like that. Like .maybe some of his ideas have created this "monster" he's having to defend himself against
@@dingotomtom he’s going the opposite direction now maybe after realizing that the left eat their own.
... :-)... To clear this all up, go listen to the song, life is a carnival, by the band.
... :-)... Both of you two fellows seem to be Shackled to Academia! Break your chains! Set yourselves free! Dwell in the forest instead of the trees!
If you want the TL;DR version of Evergreen see the Clubhouse clip.
George Bridges should have been fired.
Editors, given the ending . . . a little humility goes a long way. Jordan's listeners already know he has a aura of greatness about him. this ending struck me as unnecessary aggrandisement.
I disagree. It was supposed to be a short clip, they had to pick a decent cut and it was a good moment to end the clip
@@dll7658 struck me as what a first year marketing student would do.
The new fascists, were they wearing brown shirts?
Big parts of american society unfortunately still are pathologically and unreasonably right wing. Big parts of american universities are pathologically and unreasonably left wing. I hope Canada is a bit more sane. Can the us get less extreme? Thank god our universities in Europe are not that ridiculous yet.
Canada is a bit more insane.
Canada is becoming a cesspool of failed liberal initiatives like "harm reduction" and impotent judiciary. Justin Trudeau's woketopia.
Canada's (heavily subsidized) universities are petri dishes of intersectional collectivist doublespeak, where identity politics is the most important subject. Their idea of"diversity" is a student body of varied scin tones, genders, and ethnicities but all united by hiveminded reductive social justice>
One major political party in Canada is so obsessed with identity politics that it no longer has any actual platform beyond that. Google "Gerry Taft" for just one example of how a party member had to disclose his sexual preference to the party politburo in order to keep his job.
Canada is bad and getting worse. Credit due, in part, to the vacuous, knee-taking, occasionally-serious-faced, ever contrite (but never for his own transgression) and always woke paternalistic cretin twice elected PM.
Bret chose his moment perfectly at Evergreen. He had been there for years and had attended the “segregation” event many, many times. There are photos of him going along with it. He chose to protest it at the exact moment that right was beginning to have some purchase on podcasts and social commentary shows. He isn’t a man to respect, he’s a calculating academic who made a name for himself, protesting something when it became expedient
He is a very respectable man. I don't agree with your conclusion.
he'd had-enough-of all that business-as-usual, he was one of the real *men at work*!
i know you can see it any-old-way-y'choose it! but that backbeat, you can hardly lose that! he went-to-bat, timing is no small element of bein' successful at that!
J Mills a self proclaimed mind reader.
That's not how it went. I agree with your statement about being part of the creation of the problem and his involvement, but he did stand and oppose it when he saw where it was going. He was an employee of Evergreen. It was his job to follow the mandate. He was dragged into conversations about it after the lawsuit was concluded. He was initially reluctant to get involved after what he just went through. He didn't just stroll out of the situation smiling and handing out business cards. It ruined his and his wife's lives as they had known since beginning leaving high school and going to university themselves. And if he eventually found a place to talk, so fucking what? You're suggesting "shooting" anyone involved in "Leftism" (in what ends as the worst of Communism) as opposed to Liberal is as dangerous and intellectually retarded as the Leftists they're talking about.
Im sure more liberal capatalism will help us with the incoming crisis :)
Probably not though........
it seems to me that that word, 'liberal', has been all twisted-'round in some people's minds who would fight-to-the-death against your right to disagree with them
capitolism: a new expression for an old idea?
L
the white guy that dared to sacrifice his so-called privilege-to-take-the-day-off! right? pretty effin' tough if y'think about it that-a-way, eh?