Non-display pen tablets do have some advantages, besides being more affordable: + Your posture would not be ruined if you don't have a proper set-up; + You don't have to calibrate the colors on the screen of the pen display to match the colors on your computer screen. Even if you don't draw professionally (as in illustration, comic, digital arts, cartoons...), getting a pen tablet can certainly help you with light graphic design, 3D modelling, photo/video editing and even using certain programs and games. Basically everyone with a PC should get one, not necessarily from Wacom though.
Lemme add a few more from experiencing pen tablets > pen displays > pen tablets: + *_Zero_*_ delay_ + Your hand isn't blocking what you're drawing + No driver hassles (e.g. pen display drivers frequently conflicting w/ windows drivers) + Pen display's repair cost are expensive + Staying with pen tablets will keep your muscle memory/reflexes on using it, which will save you days of valuable productive time not relearning it (e.g. when your pen display _do_ break)
Bought a huion h950p for 30usd, definitely worth it for the price it also has tilt function and I installed a paperlike screen protector on it so it would be less slippery, only downside for me is that it used micro usb which is much fragile than type c
I've been researching the pressure issues with these pens and tablets. At the moment the experience is very deficient compared to the older models (CTL-6100, CTL-6100WL, CTL-4100, CTL-4100WL) that these new tablets replaced. The IAF is noticeably higher preventing finer details at low pressure and how the pressure is handled creates odd strokes. I do not know to what degree these issues can be mitigated by Wacom or app settings. But in any case, a user should not have to. I'd recommend waiting on buying these tablets. Maybe a future firmware update or driver update addresses the pressure issues. I'll be publishing a video explaining these effects later this week (2023/09/08).
I bought Wacom One Pen Medium a few days ago and mine doesn’t seem to have this problem (or at least not on that scale) - it does report pressure events with values between 1 and 200 (I get some 30s, 40s, low 100s, etc.) - but it does take some initial pressure to activate it (with very soft drawing, the line often breaks, no pressure being reported). Might be something the Linux driver does to calibrate it. I’m not very familiar with other tablets, so I can’t compare the feel and line quality with them. (I’m also not an artist and I bought it mostly for writing/taking notes, so it wouldn’t be a huge issue for me anyway.)
I've had a couple of Cintiqs over the years, but I went back to a regular non-display tablet for two main reasons. The first is that I like to sketch very small. It helps me avoid getting distracted by details early in a drawing, and when I draw small the pen blocks my view while using a pen display. The second reason is that I was never happy with the screen quality on my Cintiqs (as well as a Huion pen display I bought and returned). Both of my Cintiqs had defects and bad colors, and all of them have the glittery anti glare filter that makes everything look fuzzy and sparkly. So a non-display tablet coupled with a regular high quality monitor has been the solution with the fewest compromises for me. But unfortunately no solution is fully satisfying.
hey, how did you deal with the calibration problem? It drove me nuts that my art would look one way on my tablet and another on my computer/social media
Thanks for the insight. This is what’s working best for me too. I’m not a daily drawer but I find the disconnect pretty quick to improve once your brain adjusts to the eye hand coordination thing.
Huion and Xp-Pen, that Brad has reviewed extensively on his channel, have what you need AND include the pen and the charger. I can't believe Brad didn't really talk about that. He's a true Wacom fanboy in this video while he's praised Huion and XP-Pen for the better "bang for the buck" than Wacom.
I bought the older edition because it has all the same features (including Bluetooth) and has shortcut keys. It also comes with a pro pen 2. It’s a way better deal at $129 for the medium size. I’m disappointed in these new ones, they’re more expensive with less features. Makes no sense
If you factor in the price of the pen and cable, it's like 160 usd for the medium. For a supposedly entry level tablet with a not-so-great pen, that's ridiculous. You can buy a gently used Intuos Pro or a pro-level Huion or Xp Pen non-display tablet for that price.
I have 2 BlueTooth pen tablets --the small Wacom Intuos which does have 5 shortcut buttons along the top, and a mid-size XP-Pen tablet also with a row of shortcut keys along one shorter side. I bought them over a year ago & Brad did reviews of both models around the same time. The Wacom drove me nuts because I was used to drawing on 610 pen tablets & the small was too small. However, the drawing surface felt great, the pen was great although the nibs wore down much faster (and I have a light touch), the BT was *excellent*! The charging was fast, & it held a charge for a long time even if I hadn't used it for a while. The small size aggravated me so much that I bought the BT version XP-Pen in a 610 size. It's also pretty great except the surface is a little slicker than the Wacom. No biggie. BOTH came with charging cables, adapters for the XP-Pen, extra pen nibs --the XP-Pen came with more. NONE of this current annoyance where you have to buy them separately from Wacom. I love the BlueTooth, it's been great, would not go back to my corded Wacom or Huion tablets.
I remember when I bought my bamboo around 10-12 years ago, bit bigger than the small (at least it looks like it) and smaller than the medium and had buttons! Now it's been acting up and thanks to your reviews might switch to a tab s8 since I will also be using it to take notes and use as a second monitor at work, just praying my old pen works with the samsung tabs since it's a relatively old pen.
The lack of buttons sucks. Maybe it'd work if you'd map one button to unfo and another to tool change, but still a lot less convenient that the usual multi less button setup. Kind of disappointing, considering that nowayadays , XP Pen and Huion offer nearly the same experience for a third of the price (including pen and cable, not even mentioning the screen protectors, pen holders, nib replacements and non stick gloves those manufactures include) and still deliver such QOL features.
Maybe a stupid question but… how do you know where in the pad to draw?💀 like is there a sensor inside the stylus that shows a pointer before it even tips onto the screen? I’m an iPad user so the concept of a screenless pad is a different world for me
I'm kind of shocked that they are going to get away with selling a useless paper weight that you have to buy a pen and PLUG separately for. Like not including a charger is a new level of low not even apple goes that far does it lol? I can understand, however, with tablets like apple's and samsung's they are a functional computer without the pen and they at least come with a charger wtf lol (albeit the slowest crappiest charger in apple's case). Wacom trying to pull the same stunt is absurd as the thing is USELESS without the pen/charger. You can't use it without those things and they should come bundled at a good cost. Ugh rant over.
Well since it’s out now, they don’t sell it without the pen that would be silly and there’s no charger because it allows you to use the tablet wired in case of those instances of interference. Plus the pen doesn’t require batteries which is so bizarre and cool.
Considering how bad the bluetooth lag is on an Intuos Pro (it’s basically an anti-feature - turn it on for a noticeably worse experience!), I find myself a bit skeptical about whether it’s actually a good thing that they included it for the One line too.
i think the performance same as Huion RT series especially with Wacom One tablets initial activation force i was expecting this Wacom One tablets is better than my Huion RTM-500, but in the end, i think they have same performance in terms of their pens
but, in terms of drawing on android, this tablet seems better because they have software for fix the line distortion due to various aspect ratio on any android devices
See the other comment I added. The IAF at this moment is worse than the Huion RT series. I hope Wacom can correct this with a firmware or driver update.
@@ajwalker4416 The product page says it's compatible with the same tablets as the base pen, so it seems like it would. I'm eyeing it too. I love Pilot, so I hope it does. 🥹
To me the big plus here is pen compatibility. I have the original One by Wacom tablet, and parts availability will be an issue in the long run. But this generation shares the same pen as its screen brethren and thus, same compatibility with the EMR pens that Samsung and Staedtler have. I wonder if the older Penabled/Wacom Feel pens are compatible as well, I have an older pen from a Lenovo X220 Tablet and a Wacom Bamboo Feel pen laying around, but that is a big plus. The pricing however is what kills me. To slot in these One products, they had to move the other models upmarket, so the Intuos Pro Small, for example, which used to be had for USD199 if you shopped around, is now starting USD249 in the Wacom store. And the normal Intuos line-up is falling into some irrelevance even if being the bridge between the One and Intuos Pro, for the One added the most practical function the Intuos had (Bluetooth). The only value proposition the new One tablet has is not to be found in developed markets, but rather emerging ones, where the original One by Wacom was a strong seller.
Comparing this with the older Intuos model, which had express keys, a pen, and probably an entry level tier, this one feels scam. It's like Apple where they remove some of the necessary features and charge them for a higher price, each sold separately. Better just buy the old Intuos models, or other Wacom alternative brands that give you really big space, 20+ expresskeys, and a free pen for like half the price.
one thing that makes me having a hard time upgrading to pen display is the moment you put your hand on the display, it immediately blocking half of the drawing area, making me losing awareness overall perspective of my drawing. so I might be sticking with drawing pen for quite a while.
whats the downside here? you get the same problem with traditional art where you cover your artwork when you draw. why not just put the inspector view of your entire drawing on your main display while you draw on the tablet. This issue isnt an issue in the first place, its just how art is since the start
I’m not a pro, and have the most difficult time coordinating 😂, but the snap tools in blender are growing on me, so I haven’t tossed it yet. It does some cool things like the pen hover, ignoring my hand bumps, pressure, etc. One thing you know for sure when you use these is a lot of time went into thinking about how people draw.
When you just hover the tablet, without touching the tip of the pen, does it shows up on the screen? Like Samsung pens do on Samsung tablets? I watched the video on 1080p and I couldn't see the cursor. The cursor is either really tiny or it doesn't show up where the pen is hovering.
Yeah it comes with a pen yall, don’t need to order an extra one. At least here in Canada. Don’t know why the product would ship *without* the one that enables it to work….
It would not. The pro pen 2 doesn't work with this digitizer. The pro pen 3 also doesn't work on the older Gen tablets but I think someone mentioned the pro pen 2 worked on the new cintiq 27.
Only EMR technology pens like the Samsung S-Pen or Staedtler Noris Stylus work with this digitizer. EMR is a generic name, but as far as I know it is related to the older technology known as Wacom Penabled or Wacom FeelIT (which convertible tablets such as the Lenovo X Series or 2-in-1s like the Microsoft Surface Pro 1 and 2 used to support) - no confirmation on whether Penabled pens would work here though.
I like the wireless aspect of this as an upgrade over my "One by Wacom" for on the go stuff. Can you use the pen that comes with that with these new tablets?
Looking back, he says pen plus a cable to recharge is extra $$. And yes the pen can be used in via bluetooth without this tablet. With other tablets? I don’t know.
Hello, i want to ask which one you more recomended, this tablets or wacom intuos pen (CTL 4100)? they have similiar price in my country and this tablet is newer but doesnot have shortcut button like wacom intuos pen
I have the Kamvas 12 Pro, and it's great! It's basically the same size as my laptop (just slightly longer because of the shortcut keys on the side) and I'd say the only disadvantage to it is the cables. It's an older model, so it uses a 3-in-1 USB-C to HDMI USB-A and AC (power) cable, which means that I'm basically required to sit in one spot when I draw. Not great, but oh well. There's also the 13 Pro if you want the 2.5k resolution. Though if you want a graphics tablet, I only have experience with an older Wacom Intuos, and it wasn't great. Wore out completely within two years.
Hello there, really helpful video. I'm basically looking for a device to enable me to use a pen to draw and mark up pdf's and screenshots. What do i need to buy to do this please? I'm confused between needing something like that in your video or something which is a screen extension that i can view and annotate the image or pdf on. Any help very much appreciated. Cheers. Olly
Hi Brad. Could you please help? What size to choose to use it as a replacement of computer mouse to make presentation and draw simple diagrams or graphic illustration to visualize thoughts? Never used such devices before but I don't have the strength to draw with a mouse anymore.
Having to buy everything separately is really a mood killer for this tablet. For the amount of money to spend, it cost more than the new XP Pen Deco pro MW, and the Deco Pro comes in a bundle for just 139.99 and that includes a remote for it....imma just stick to XP Pen.
a year later and i'm currently about to buy one, they now come with tablet and pen, and it's on sale for 60 dollars at best buy :3 (i use it for 3d modeling on blender)
Brad, are there any other medium size tablets like this that don't have shortcut buttons? It looks great but it not coming with a pen and cable is... weird.
I am looking for some help! I bought my daughter a Huion tablet to pair with a Mac mini. It’s very unstable. We are constantly having to reinstall drivers is Wacom a more plug and play option? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Still don't know why people on a budget got with wacom, you can get a full 10 inch one from gaomon or huion or xp pen for the cost of the small wacom one
The biggest annoyance when working on the screen itself is having the hand in the way of your drawing. A pen on the standard tablet is the way to go. After you get the hang of it you will refuse to go back.
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Apart from the price, other reasons that I believe are powerful for choosing this type of tablet over those with a screen are: 1- They are more ergonomic, since you have your head raised looking at the screen, you notice it more when you spend a lot of time illustrating. 2- It does not tire the eyes so much (this will not be explained why), but I assume that it has to do with the size of a monitor vs. that of a tablet screen. 3- You use the full potential of your PC/MAC, you don't have to have the super tablet to have the best performance.
There is a wacom one tablet (ctl 672 for the medium) that is way cheaper. The only difference is that it doesn't have bluetooth but in terms of performance it's pretty much identical and it does come with the pen! Around 60 euros for that one compared to the 150 I find this tablet in my country
I have the pro small. It's a bit small, but I have small hands so it works okay for me and couldn't afford the medium. 😅 It has bluetooth on it as well. Thanks for the review, was wondering about the difference between these and the pro line.
Does the Wacom One Pen tablet connect wirelessly with a Samsung tablet? If it does, are most drawing apps on a Samsung tablet compatible with Wacom one tablets?
I used a tablet for about 8 years and for the life of me I could not “draw” with them. I never could develop that hand-eye co-ordination. I would draw an image on paper, scan it, then just fix any mistakes and colour it with the tablet. But drawing from scratch? I couldn’t do it.
And I'm the complete opposite. I keep trying to draw on a screen but something about the tablet feels more "natural" to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess 🤔
I adapted well, I think because in olden days my art teacher taught us to mostly look up instead of the paper we were drawing on. So for me, initially pen tablet to screen was awkward, but thanks to already having good hand eye coordination it was a short transition. I still do traditional pencil and paper because I enjoy it plus my brain seems to collect so much information that helps me see when a digital drawing is off kilter, poorly designed or off from the colors i feel i want. When I got my first digital pen tablet, my computer was a Commodore Amiga with a Macintosh emulator board. The paint app was Deluxe Paint. I forget which sculpting app i had. Just imagine the machine chip speed was 7 Mhz. After 48 hours of waiting for rendition, i gave up. Why the Amiga? It supported color, unlike the black white machine from Jobs and Dave. It was way less expensive. Might be interesting to discover why the machine didn’t continue. You can still find magazines supporting its operating system. I find the best computer magazines for all old and modern computing are from Europe where good hackers = innovators, not the other.
Im confused by these naiming. Is this wacome one the newer version of one by wacom? Because i thiugh one by wacom is the cheaper tablet and wacom one is the cheaper pen display i mean compared to cintique . Ita so confuaing.
I want to buy a new digital tablet, as my original old one by wacom finally gave up, but I can't quite decided if I should by a wacom intous m or a wacom one m, as even tho the One is atleast 30% more, if it is that much better I would be willing to spend a little more. I didn't have a tablet with buttons on it before, and I don't quite feel like it would matter that much for me, but the bluetooth does sound really good in the Intuos, but the One also has it now, but on the other hand the only thing that the One seems better in is the tilt recognation, which does sound cool and nice, but for how much more it costs, I'm really hesitant about choosing One, if anyone who actually used both or atleast one of these models could help me with deciding, I would be very thankful.
What the matter that the price went up (S version) from approx. 84 EUR to 107 EUR compared one month ago and today? :D And M Version from 145 EUR to 157 EUR
These don't make a lot of sense since the Huion Inspiroy 2 hit the market. I've had a lot of Huion and Wacom products over the years. The Inspiroy 2 is the first time I can say I like the product more and it's not just the cost savings.
I wonder why nobody has the option to also use finger gestures anymore. I use a screen-less tablet instead of a mouse for work and that's the one killer feature that would get me to buy a new one over the others.
Folks just try XP-Pen. I think Wacom is still the gold standard but unlike the early 2000's XP-Pen and others are now very close to Wacom. The problems these competitors have had in the past was the drivers and today they've pretty much bridged the gap. I have both brands, the problem with Wacom tablets(Intuos) is the nibs wear out too quickly.
One by Wacom (CTL-472, CTL-672) has some key differences - fewer pressure levels (2048 instead of 4096) - no tilt while these models to support tilt - no wireless while these models all support wireless See my other comments about pressure issues with these new tablets
@@thesevenpens honestly doesn't sound like it's worth the money. I have the one by Wacom and has worked very well 4 years now for less than half the money. Thanks for the info.
Got the new xppen deco lw. Its awesome. One thing to consider with wacom is that nibs cost a lot more than xppen/huion, atleast in my region. If thats not an issue in your region, it really comes down to cost and drawing area when considering the newest models from these companies.
Honestly any size that's slightly bigger than your hand works perfect. If it's smaller than your hand then u migh have some difficulties but that'd work too
I just got my intuos (the 2018 entry level one) and few differences I notice is that intuos comes with express keys, it has a 4k pen, and also comes with a cable, and you can easily get one for around 50 usd (I got intuos medium non Bluetooth for ~50usd)
"budget price" 90$ for set tablet + pen is budget? i know, compared to tablets with screens it is budget, but come on, old ctl 472 was like 50$ at most, its 2x that price. in my country the newest S model on amazon is like 150$ which is a total joke (isnt customizable so i guess full kit), M is 200$+ (~850pln). in other shops, it isnt currently available, however on polish amazon ctl 472 isnt restocking, which is sad especially for osu players and people without money (from what i know 472 has no input lag compared to newest wacom one). what do you think about this? is this normal?
Super cool entry level tablets. Fun review. If I was any poorer financially I would definitely consider this entry level Wacom tablet as I am a hobby artist and my art ability is not good enough to make money at art.
This might sound weird, but I prefer non screen tablets, I do not like to cover portion of what I am doing with my own hand, odd but, dunno. Plus My Intuos3 A4 is rocking its 15 year of use so beat that with a screen tablet... just kidding!
I used to have a Bamboo tablet and then Wacom intentionally stopped updating the drivers for those models, even though they're perfectly functional. Planned obsolescence. Garbage company. Do not buy.
Non-display pen tablets do have some advantages, besides being more affordable:
+ Your posture would not be ruined if you don't have a proper set-up;
+ You don't have to calibrate the colors on the screen of the pen display to match the colors on your computer screen.
Even if you don't draw professionally (as in illustration, comic, digital arts, cartoons...), getting a pen tablet can certainly help you with light graphic design, 3D modelling, photo/video editing and even using certain programs and games. Basically everyone with a PC should get one, not necessarily from Wacom though.
Also photo editing as well
@@chidorirasenganz Indeed! I forgot that.
Big screen tablets with vesa mount: 😈
Just turn off screen of the pen display and use it only for LineArt: 😈😈😈😈
Lemme add a few more from experiencing pen tablets > pen displays > pen tablets:
+ *_Zero_*_ delay_
+ Your hand isn't blocking what you're drawing
+ No driver hassles (e.g. pen display drivers frequently conflicting w/ windows drivers)
+ Pen display's repair cost are expensive
+ Staying with pen tablets will keep your muscle memory/reflexes on using it, which will save you days of valuable productive time not relearning it (e.g. when your pen display _do_ break)
Bought a huion h950p for 30usd, definitely worth it for the price it also has tilt function and I installed a paperlike screen protector on it so it would be less slippery, only downside for me is that it used micro usb which is much fragile than type c
I've been researching the pressure issues with these pens and tablets. At the moment the experience is very deficient compared to the older models (CTL-6100, CTL-6100WL, CTL-4100, CTL-4100WL) that these new tablets replaced. The IAF is noticeably higher preventing finer details at low pressure and how the pressure is handled creates odd strokes. I do not know to what degree these issues can be mitigated by Wacom or app settings. But in any case, a user should not have to. I'd recommend waiting on buying these tablets. Maybe a future firmware update or driver update addresses the pressure issues. I'll be publishing a video explaining these effects later this week (2023/09/08).
Here's the pressure investigation video: th-cam.com/video/415ngQOHiME/w-d-xo.html It covers all four of the new Wacom One tablets.
I bought Wacom One Pen Medium a few days ago and mine doesn’t seem to have this problem (or at least not on that scale) - it does report pressure events with values between 1 and 200 (I get some 30s, 40s, low 100s, etc.) - but it does take some initial pressure to activate it (with very soft drawing, the line often breaks, no pressure being reported). Might be something the Linux driver does to calibrate it. I’m not very familiar with other tablets, so I can’t compare the feel and line quality with them.
(I’m also not an artist and I bought it mostly for writing/taking notes, so it wouldn’t be a huge issue for me anyway.)
Update on Sept 23, 2023: I bought *another* Wacom One Medium (CTC-6110WL) and found the same set of pressure issues with that tablet.
I've had a couple of Cintiqs over the years, but I went back to a regular non-display tablet for two main reasons. The first is that I like to sketch very small. It helps me avoid getting distracted by details early in a drawing, and when I draw small the pen blocks my view while using a pen display. The second reason is that I was never happy with the screen quality on my Cintiqs (as well as a Huion pen display I bought and returned). Both of my Cintiqs had defects and bad colors, and all of them have the glittery anti glare filter that makes everything look fuzzy and sparkly. So a non-display tablet coupled with a regular high quality monitor has been the solution with the fewest compromises for me. But unfortunately no solution is fully satisfying.
hey, how did you deal with the calibration problem? It drove me nuts that my art would look one way on my tablet and another on my computer/social media
Thanks for the insight. This is what’s working best for me too. I’m not a daily drawer but I find the disconnect pretty quick to improve once your brain adjusts to the eye hand coordination thing.
Bluetooth sounds like a killer feature. trying to portablelize my work computer this would almost be a perfect fit except for the lack of buttons
By the last gen Wacom I tous its perfect for u
Huion and Xp-Pen, that Brad has reviewed extensively on his channel, have what you need AND include the pen and the charger. I can't believe Brad didn't really talk about that. He's a true Wacom fanboy in this video while he's praised Huion and XP-Pen for the better "bang for the buck" than Wacom.
Didn't the last generation had bluetooth?
Indeed, they had, but there was a model with and a model without in each size. I have the small one with bt.@@William_Nowin
@@ajwalker4416 yeah Deco mw 8 buttons and doble wheel. I have one
I bought the older edition because it has all the same features (including Bluetooth) and has shortcut keys. It also comes with a pro pen 2. It’s a way better deal at $129 for the medium size. I’m disappointed in these new ones, they’re more expensive with less features. Makes no sense
What’s the name of that product?
Yea I want to know the name too!
@@bluebellieee it's probably PTH660, Intuos Pro Medium
@@FearlessP4P1 probably pth660
What older edition are you talking about exactly? The Pro Pen 2 alone is 100e here...
If you factor in the price of the pen and cable, it's like 160 usd for the medium. For a supposedly entry level tablet with a not-so-great pen, that's ridiculous. You can buy a gently used Intuos Pro or a pro-level Huion or Xp Pen non-display tablet for that price.
I can't wait for the upgraded intous pro. Hopefully it comes in early next year.
I have 2 BlueTooth pen tablets --the small Wacom Intuos which does have 5 shortcut buttons along the top, and a mid-size XP-Pen tablet also with a row of shortcut keys along one shorter side. I bought them over a year ago & Brad did reviews of both models around the same time. The Wacom drove me nuts because I was used to drawing on 610 pen tablets & the small was too small. However, the drawing surface felt great, the pen was great although the nibs wore down much faster (and I have a light touch), the BT was *excellent*! The charging was fast, & it held a charge for a long time even if I hadn't used it for a while. The small size aggravated me so much that I bought the BT version XP-Pen in a 610 size. It's also pretty great except the surface is a little slicker than the Wacom. No biggie.
BOTH came with charging cables, adapters for the XP-Pen, extra pen nibs --the XP-Pen came with more. NONE of this current annoyance where you have to buy them separately from Wacom. I love the BlueTooth, it's been great, would not go back to my corded Wacom or Huion tablets.
I remember when I bought my bamboo around 10-12 years ago, bit bigger than the small (at least it looks like it) and smaller than the medium and had buttons! Now it's been acting up and thanks to your reviews might switch to a tab s8 since I will also be using it to take notes and use as a second monitor at work, just praying my old pen works with the samsung tabs since it's a relatively old pen.
The Samsung Galaxy tabs come with a pen already so it shouldn't be a problem if your pen doesn't work. Another advantage of that tablet
The lack of buttons sucks. Maybe it'd work if you'd map one button to unfo and another to tool change, but still a lot less convenient that the usual multi less button setup. Kind of disappointing, considering that nowayadays , XP Pen and Huion offer nearly the same experience for a third of the price (including pen and cable, not even mentioning the screen protectors, pen holders, nib replacements and non stick gloves those manufactures include) and still deliver such QOL features.
Maybe a stupid question but… how do you know where in the pad to draw?💀 like is there a sensor inside the stylus that shows a pointer before it even tips onto the screen?
I’m an iPad user so the concept of a screenless pad is a different world for me
Exactly. When thw pen is only fe cm away from the screen it will show the cursor, and when the pen actually touched the tablet it will click.
I'm kind of shocked that they are going to get away with selling a useless paper weight that you have to buy a pen and PLUG separately for. Like not including a charger is a new level of low not even apple goes that far does it lol? I can understand, however, with tablets like apple's and samsung's they are a functional computer without the pen and they at least come with a charger wtf lol (albeit the slowest crappiest charger in apple's case). Wacom trying to pull the same stunt is absurd as the thing is USELESS without the pen/charger. You can't use it without those things and they should come bundled at a good cost. Ugh rant over.
Well since it’s out now, they don’t sell it without the pen that would be silly and there’s no charger because it allows you to use the tablet wired in case of those instances of interference. Plus the pen doesn’t require batteries which is so bizarre and cool.
Considering how bad the bluetooth lag is on an Intuos Pro (it’s basically an anti-feature - turn it on for a noticeably worse experience!), I find myself a bit skeptical about whether it’s actually a good thing that they included it for the One line too.
i think the performance same as Huion RT series especially with Wacom One tablets initial activation force
i was expecting this Wacom One tablets is better than my Huion RTM-500, but in the end, i think they have same performance in terms of their pens
but, in terms of drawing on android, this tablet seems better because they have software for fix the line distortion due to various aspect ratio on any android devices
See the other comment I added. The IAF at this moment is worse than the Huion RT series. I hope Wacom can correct this with a firmware or driver update.
@@thesevenpens yes you're right, i hope wacom can provide update for fixing this problem
i was not expecting this when IAF in this Wacom One looks bad
@@lynefall is it fixed yet?
Brad can you check out the new Dr. Grip Digital for Wacom pens that they just released?
I'm no fan of Wacom but I do like the idea of the Dr. Grip pen and wonder if they would work with other devices like a Samsung Tablet. 🤔
@@ajwalker4416 They already work for S-Pen enabled Samsung devices, someone on Twitter showed it
@@ajwalker4416 The product page says it's compatible with the same tablets as the base pen, so it seems like it would. I'm eyeing it too. I love Pilot, so I hope it does. 🥹
To me the big plus here is pen compatibility. I have the original One by Wacom tablet, and parts availability will be an issue in the long run.
But this generation shares the same pen as its screen brethren and thus, same compatibility with the EMR pens that Samsung and Staedtler have. I wonder if the older Penabled/Wacom Feel pens are compatible as well, I have an older pen from a Lenovo X220 Tablet and a Wacom Bamboo Feel pen laying around, but that is a big plus.
The pricing however is what kills me. To slot in these One products, they had to move the other models upmarket, so the Intuos Pro Small, for example, which used to be had for USD199 if you shopped around, is now starting USD249 in the Wacom store.
And the normal Intuos line-up is falling into some irrelevance even if being the bridge between the One and Intuos Pro, for the One added the most practical function the Intuos had (Bluetooth).
The only value proposition the new One tablet has is not to be found in developed markets, but rather emerging ones, where the original One by Wacom was a strong seller.
Would those devices be good for taking notes in uni? I’d like to use it as an alternative to an ipad.
Also - the Intuos Pro (at least the Large, that I own) has touch controls and can be also be used wirelessly via bluetooth.
Comparing this with the older Intuos model, which had express keys, a pen, and probably an entry level tier, this one feels scam. It's like Apple where they remove some of the necessary features and charge them for a higher price, each sold separately. Better just buy the old Intuos models, or other Wacom alternative brands that give you really big space, 20+ expresskeys, and a free pen for like half the price.
Indeed, this newer models also have pressure sensitivity issues too
one thing that makes me having a hard time upgrading to pen display is the moment you put your hand on the display, it immediately blocking half of the drawing area, making me losing awareness overall perspective of my drawing.
so I might be sticking with drawing pen for quite a while.
Same
whats the downside here? you get the same problem with traditional art where you cover your artwork when you draw. why not just put the inspector view of your entire drawing on your main display while you draw on the tablet. This issue isnt an issue in the first place, its just how art is since the start
I’m not a pro, and have the most difficult time coordinating 😂, but the snap tools in blender are growing on me, so I haven’t tossed it yet. It does some cool things like the pen hover, ignoring my hand bumps, pressure, etc. One thing you know for sure when you use these is a lot of time went into thinking about how people draw.
When you just hover the tablet, without touching the tip of the pen, does it shows up on the screen? Like Samsung pens do on Samsung tablets? I watched the video on 1080p and I couldn't see the cursor. The cursor is either really tiny or it doesn't show up where the pen is hovering.
Which one should I buy
1. Wacom Intuos medium bluetooth (It's available for half the price of the Wacom One)
2. This one in the video
Grab the Intuos definitely. It's basically the same thing but cheaper (and comes with pen and cable!!)
Yeah it comes with a pen yall, don’t need to order an extra one. At least here in Canada. Don’t know why the product would ship *without* the one that enables it to work….
Wait, I'm confused. Does the Pro Pen 2 work with this?
It would not. The pro pen 2 doesn't work with this digitizer. The pro pen 3 also doesn't work on the older Gen tablets but I think someone mentioned the pro pen 2 worked on the new cintiq 27.
The Pro Pen 2 does not work with these tablets. I've tested it.
Only EMR technology pens like the Samsung S-Pen or Staedtler Noris Stylus work with this digitizer. EMR is a generic name, but as far as I know it is related to the older technology known as Wacom Penabled or Wacom FeelIT (which convertible tablets such as the Lenovo X Series or 2-in-1s like the Microsoft Surface Pro 1 and 2 used to support) - no confirmation on whether Penabled pens would work here though.
I like the wireless aspect of this as an upgrade over my "One by Wacom" for on the go stuff. Can you use the pen that comes with that with these new tablets?
Looking back, he says pen plus a cable to recharge is extra $$. And yes the pen can be used in via bluetooth without this tablet. With other tablets? I don’t know.
the old pens do not work with these new ones, so its overpriced for what its giving you
I've always wanted to try one of these, thanks for the awesome and helpful video!
Can you also use it like a normal trackpad with ur hands only? Like multi touch gesture? Swipe or scrolling?
Hello, i want to ask which one you more recomended, this tablets or wacom intuos pen (CTL 4100)? they have similiar price in my country and this tablet is newer but doesnot have shortcut button like wacom intuos pen
Great products. I like the quality. I bought the S and M models.
What did you use to make you "Brad's art School" videos?
Thanks Brad! I'm considering the Huion Kamvas pro 16 (2.5k). But may go with the cheaper XP Pen drawing tablet just to save some space on my desk
I have 2 of the XP-Pen models, both are great and actually come with the pen and the charger in the box at no extra charge.
I have the Kamvas 12 Pro, and it's great! It's basically the same size as my laptop (just slightly longer because of the shortcut keys on the side) and I'd say the only disadvantage to it is the cables. It's an older model, so it uses a 3-in-1 USB-C to HDMI USB-A and AC (power) cable, which means that I'm basically required to sit in one spot when I draw. Not great, but oh well. There's also the 13 Pro if you want the 2.5k resolution.
Though if you want a graphics tablet, I only have experience with an older Wacom Intuos, and it wasn't great. Wore out completely within two years.
Hello there, really helpful video. I'm basically looking for a device to enable me to use a pen to draw and mark up pdf's and screenshots. What do i need to buy to do this please? I'm confused between needing something like that in your video or something which is a screen extension that i can view and annotate the image or pdf on. Any help very much appreciated. Cheers. Olly
Hi Brad. Could you please help? What size to choose to use it as a replacement of computer mouse to make presentation and draw simple diagrams or graphic illustration to visualize thoughts? Never used such devices before but I don't have the strength to draw with a mouse anymore.
Counting the tablet, pen and cable....
100 bucks for a small non-pro tablet ._.
Having to buy everything separately is really a mood killer for this tablet. For the amount of money to spend, it cost more than the new XP Pen Deco pro MW, and the Deco Pro comes in a bundle for just 139.99 and that includes a remote for it....imma just stick to XP Pen.
Thank you for this review! Exactly what I was looking for.
a year later and i'm currently about to buy one, they now come with tablet and pen, and it's on sale for 60 dollars at best buy :3 (i use it for 3d modeling on blender)
The Wacom one doesn’t have express keys what is the alternative to it ? Can the pens use that function instead
6:21 Looks like quite a lag :(
Brad, are there any other medium size tablets like this that don't have shortcut buttons? It looks great but it not coming with a pen and cable is... weird.
I am looking for some help! I bought my daughter a Huion tablet to pair with a Mac mini. It’s very unstable. We are constantly having to reinstall drivers is Wacom a more plug and play option? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Still don't know why people on a budget got with wacom, you can get a full 10 inch one from gaomon or huion or xp pen for the cost of the small wacom one
The biggest annoyance when working on the screen itself is having the hand in the way of your drawing. A pen on the standard tablet is the way to go. After you get the hang of it you will refuse to go back.
Apart from the price, other reasons that I believe are powerful for choosing this type of tablet over those with a screen are: 1- They are more ergonomic, since you have your head raised looking at the screen, you notice it more when you spend a lot of time illustrating. 2- It does not tire the eyes so much (this will not be explained why), but I assume that it has to do with the size of a monitor vs. that of a tablet screen. 3- You use the full potential of your PC/MAC, you don't have to have the super tablet to have the best performance.
Hey there, weird question, what is the polling rate on the standard One S/M?
There is a wacom one tablet (ctl 672 for the medium) that is way cheaper. The only difference is that it doesn't have bluetooth but in terms of performance it's pretty much identical and it does come with the pen!
Around 60 euros for that one compared to the 150 I find this tablet in my country
I wouldn’t use that for drawing. Pen pressure is too low
I have the pro small. It's a bit small, but I have small hands so it works okay for me and couldn't afford the medium. 😅 It has bluetooth on it as well. Thanks for the review, was wondering about the difference between these and the pro line.
Does the Wacom One Pen tablet connect wirelessly with a Samsung tablet? If it does, are most drawing apps on a Samsung tablet compatible with Wacom one tablets?
4:44 which laptop is he using?
Is Wacom one M has worst IAF than Xppen deco m, or One by Wacom M?
And worst pressure control?
I used a tablet for about 8 years and for the life of me I could not “draw” with them. I never could develop that hand-eye co-ordination.
I would draw an image on paper, scan it, then just fix any mistakes and colour it with the tablet. But drawing from scratch? I couldn’t do it.
And I'm the complete opposite. I keep trying to draw on a screen but something about the tablet feels more "natural" to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess 🤔
I adapted well, I think because in olden days my art teacher taught us to mostly look up instead of the paper we were drawing on. So for me, initially pen tablet to screen was awkward, but thanks to already having good hand eye coordination it was a short transition.
I still do traditional pencil and paper because I enjoy it plus my brain seems to collect so much information that helps me see when a digital drawing is off kilter, poorly designed or off from the colors i feel i want.
When I got my first digital pen tablet, my computer was a Commodore Amiga with a Macintosh emulator board. The paint app was Deluxe Paint. I forget which sculpting app i had. Just imagine the machine chip speed was 7 Mhz. After 48 hours of waiting for rendition, i gave up. Why the Amiga? It supported color, unlike the black white machine from Jobs and Dave. It was way less expensive. Might be interesting to discover why the machine didn’t continue. You can still find magazines supporting its operating system. I find the best computer magazines for all old and modern computing are from Europe where good hackers = innovators, not the other.
Im confused by these naiming. Is this wacome one the newer version of one by wacom? Because i thiugh one by wacom is the cheaper tablet and wacom one is the cheaper pen display i mean compared to cintique . Ita so confuaing.
I want to buy a new digital tablet, as my original old one by wacom finally gave up, but I can't quite decided if I should by a wacom intous m or a wacom one m, as even tho the One is atleast 30% more, if it is that much better I would be willing to spend a little more. I didn't have a tablet with buttons on it before, and I don't quite feel like it would matter that much for me, but the bluetooth does sound really good in the Intuos, but the One also has it now, but on the other hand the only thing that the One seems better in is the tilt recognation, which does sound cool and nice, but for how much more it costs, I'm really hesitant about choosing One, if anyone who actually used both or atleast one of these models could help me with deciding, I would be very thankful.
What the matter that the price went up (S version) from approx. 84 EUR to 107 EUR compared one month ago and today? :D And M Version from 145 EUR to 157 EUR
Wacom One medium is £49.99 UK.
Hows is the pen vs the s pen creator edition is i where to chose a replacement for a samsung pen
These don't make a lot of sense since the Huion Inspiroy 2 hit the market. I've had a lot of Huion and Wacom products over the years. The Inspiroy 2 is the first time I can say I like the product more and it's not just the cost savings.
Slice flat or surface curve which one GM think is good ?
is it only used for drawing....can I use it in place of my versatile mouse...can I use it for none drawing operations
I wonder why nobody has the option to also use finger gestures anymore. I use a screen-less tablet instead of a mouse for work and that's the one killer feature that would get me to buy a new one over the others.
Does this tablet work on a mouse mode that keeps its pressure sensativity?
Mice don't have pressure sensativity.
Can you see where the pen is on the computer screen?
I have one by wacom medium 2nd gen. I think small would have been better choice for me
Folks just try XP-Pen. I think Wacom is still the gold standard but unlike the early 2000's XP-Pen and others are now very close to Wacom. The problems these competitors have had in the past was the drivers and today they've pretty much bridged the gap. I have both brands, the problem with Wacom tablets(Intuos) is the nibs wear out too quickly.
Wacom's pressure sensitivity is more natural and needs less force to draw.
@@hamidsalami7022funny that you can also configure that on other tablets to use less force, stop spreading this ignorance
@@TropicalCyc lol
Wacom one pen 2023 does the 2 shortcut buttons work on Samsung tabs?
What software do you use to draw?
I do not find them difficult to use. It did not take me long to get used to them.
Are the dots actually raised?
Can you compare these to the one by wacom?
One by Wacom (CTL-472, CTL-672) has some key differences
- fewer pressure levels (2048 instead of 4096)
- no tilt while these models to support tilt
- no wireless while these models all support wireless
See my other comments about pressure issues with these new tablets
@@thesevenpens honestly doesn't sound like it's worth the money. I have the one by Wacom and has worked very well 4 years now for less than half the money. Thanks for the info.
Is the wacom one worth it for 290?
Pen level of pressure is 1k 2k 4k...? Which one?
Whats yours on thoughts on repaper tablet?
Will Wacom's Pro pen 2 work with Samsung tab s9 ultra?
which one to buy? this one or xxpen deco gen2 with 16k pressure?
Which one did you chose? Also depends if you need those shortcut keys
Buy the Xppen
are these new models of wacom one?
1:45 ... "...start at $250 for the small one..." unless you find one at Goodwill WITH the pen for $10!!! Couldn't believe my luck!!
Thank you for the review. Bought the M tablet
I want to get it for like osu and other games dose it work for that
Does anyone know if the Wacom One is compatible with Krita?
That pen works with the samsung tablet? And if yes, it's good? 🤔
unfortunately, it doesn't work with samsung tablet
Got the new xppen deco lw. Its awesome. One thing to consider with wacom is that nibs cost a lot more than xppen/huion, atleast in my region. If thats not an issue in your region, it really comes down to cost and drawing area when considering the newest models from these companies.
What is the perfect size to get ?( Never used one )
Honestly any size that's slightly bigger than your hand works perfect. If it's smaller than your hand then u migh have some difficulties but that'd work too
Hi. Is it compatible with exocad?
using a drawning Table like that is sometimes better for sculpting like in Zbrush
If a brand name goes along with a good product, it's fine. But this, a brand name for $30 is all we get!
Will they renew their pro line
Whats the difference between wacom one and intuos?
I just got my intuos (the 2018 entry level one) and few differences I notice is that intuos comes with express keys, it has a 4k pen, and also comes with a cable, and you can easily get one for around 50 usd (I got intuos medium non Bluetooth for ~50usd)
"budget price" 90$ for set tablet + pen is budget? i know, compared to tablets with screens it is budget, but come on, old ctl 472 was like 50$ at most, its 2x that price. in my country the newest S model on amazon is like 150$ which is a total joke (isnt customizable so i guess full kit), M is 200$+ (~850pln). in other shops, it isnt currently available, however on polish amazon ctl 472 isnt restocking, which is sad especially for osu players and people without money (from what i know 472 has no input lag compared to newest wacom one). what do you think about this? is this normal?
Nice review, still miss that Glove dance...
Super cool entry level tablets. Fun review. If I was any poorer financially I would definitely consider this entry level Wacom tablet as I am a hobby artist and my art ability is not good enough to make money at art.
This might sound weird, but I prefer non screen tablets, I do not like to cover portion of what I am doing with my own hand, odd but, dunno. Plus My Intuos3 A4 is rocking its 15 year of use so beat that with a screen tablet... just kidding!
It is compatible with android?
Wait.
This doesn't look like my wacom one ctl 472
This vs a ised ipad mini?
It was really annoying receiving a tablet without a pen, I don't recommend it. I do like how portable it is.
why buy because its cheaper but hard to use buy something that you can easily work with
I used to have a Bamboo tablet and then Wacom intentionally stopped updating the drivers for those models, even though they're perfectly functional.
Planned obsolescence. Garbage company. Do not buy.
Hmmmmm...?.
In UK the Wacom One medium cones in at £49.99 so what's not to like.
come out of that drawing canvas for god's sakes and demonstrate its general utility as a mouse and pen......
Wacom is supported on Linux , which means it's the best drawing tablet.
Your size of clip is wrong