Ari : "Hey William, did we check on the grass geometry in Silksong to make interesting challenges for BlueSR seven years from now?" William : "You know what, we didn't, give me another three months to work on that."
15:28 "Ultimately, what made this place so difficult to navigate grasslessly..." This phrase belongs firmly on the 'never would have been said outside of video game context' list. A true gamer's phrase, for a true gamer's challenge.
I thought about doing this a couple months ago, but decided on option a, when I encountered the first impossible grass jump glad you decided to actually explore the idea further
Why are you dying ☠ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using descending dark 🕶. Descending ⬇ dark 🕶 gives you s 👀 which stop 🛑 you taking damage 😔. It also does a🅰🅰 lot of damage 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 bosses 👨🏼 and just use descending ⬇ dark 🌑
I FUCKING👃🕳 LOVE ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕 DESCENDING ⬇️⬇️ DARK⚫️⚫️⚫️ sosososososooooooo much 💖💝💖💖 I FUCKING CANT LIVE💖🚫WITHOUT IT. I DARKLY DESENCD ALL THE FUCKING TIME WHILE WAITINF FOR SKSKSKSKOOOOONNGNGGGG
@8-Lapis-8 What better way to spend what feels like eternity than getting invested in a great community of a peak game, then become invested in the next installment and waste time doing stupid shit, clinging to whatever entertainment while I wait for a futile release date.
The first grass touch might be able to be avoided by cutting with a spike off the ceiling. By deflecting a spike, it might be able to reach the grass if the stalactites can actually cut grass.
13:23 You did touch it, your hitboxes clip the grass pretty obviously on the upper right. 15:33 You clip the first grass as well, very very subtly but you can see the hitboxes overlap briefly for a few frames. You may also clip the last grass there, but it's kind of hard to tell. It does seem like two consecutive grass touches though. 19:44 Going frame by frame, there's a couple where you definitely clip the grass on your dip in the activation of Monarch Wings. Assuming you've shown all your close calls in this video, or that I have not missed any overlaps, the true final total would be 16 grass touches. Definitely still very impressive!
are you sure you're looking at the right hitbox? the smaller, orange one is the one that counts for grass interactions, not the slightly bigger yellow one. This is relevant as it is the smaller, orange hitbox that triggers the grass rustling when touched. I realise i wasn't super clear on this in the video (only appears briefly in text at the start for a few frames)
Looking at the 15:33 jump in frame advance: the knight's orange hitbox goes from being to the right on one frame to being just barely above on the next. The hitboxes essentially touch but don't overlap. In 15:36 the yellow hitbox clips the grass for one frame but the orange never touches.
Blue. Why don't you have all 63 achievements, Blue. Blue, you're a failure. Blue, you need all of the achievements. Blue, you have to finish the game. You're not done yet, Blue.
This is such a good idea, I'm shocked no one has thought of this yet. The complete opposite of Grass%. I feel like this really embodies us waiting for Silksong to come out. I liked your quick intro, tho I do personally hard disagree that 0:06 is grass, it definitely isn't, it's moss. But still a great challenge and follow through, it's nice to set your own rules up front and I appreciate that. I look forward to what you do in the future!
I hope you’re feeling okay with the mentioned burnout Blue! We’ll all understand and appreciate it if you take a break (even though your videos are incredible), your health is the most important thing for everyone!:) Thank you for making such amazing content as always and always remember that you’re amazing!
@@Mothuzad Just checked in game and it only makes grass & vines sway and doesnt break them. not too familiar with menderbug's revenge, perhaps it could change it to make it harder?
Can stalactites break grass? I've never thought about it before. That would be a clever solution, but it also could go against the spirit of the challenge if the idea is to preserve the grass as it is without rustling it.
It's your life, and you have no obligation to your audience or anyone else. We're here because we want to support you, and we find your content entertaining. But if what you need is to shift your focus to other things in life, do that. At the end of the day you're living for yourself. If and when you want to return to this, there will still be people to support you in that. Make no apologies for taking care of your needs in the meantime.
Cool video with some really awsome tricks and kicks.... might recomend adjusting the audio though; at some points your live commentary is in the background during your voice over and I had difficulties understanding the VO even though it was really quiet it still made the VO muddled for me but over all loved the vid
Artistically, the grass in Crossroads is supposed to give you a feeling of overgrown-ness, but also to make you feel more welcome than a more plain, abandoned road would. Grass touch you gently. Place like you. Place nice. It's the fake out before Infected's fuckery.. ... ... But, also, yes, TC purposefully placed grass in doorways to make a grassless-touch run impossible. I also agree with that. XP
I have so many ideas for routings The main question I have is entering peaks through dirthmouth I know I saw a setup one day which used wings and dash slash to do some wacky wall shenanigans and you ended up being able to climb up to the elevator from near jiji’s hut That would skip one grass touch to get into peaks But may require getting dash (and also wings without cdash, but you can probably avoid all the grass leading to wings with only vs, claw, and stall balls), and on that topic, im wondering how much grass you would touch if you tried to get to dash from howling cliffs, as you are only a few rooms away from hornet The rest seems pretty much optimised and this one grass to peak seems like the only possible optimisation Unless… Well you can always just skip cdash entirely and do explosion pogos to get to monomon using ooma cores but… Yeah :zote:
i think the thing that has the most potential is easily a Tram Pass based route. i really didn't consider it that much while doing the run actually....
I guess crossroad having grass right on transitions is intentional, to give some feedback to the movement to make the early game that has few movements feel better and the grass animation can highlight the knight's position after transition
7:50 this is actually the only epogo on current patch I had learnt until recently on my somewhat new max% cashless challenge run file I'm doing.dunno why I decided to learnt the dash variant when I'm doing a dashless run
Unsure if necessary to point out, and I havent finished yet so I don't know if it persists throughout the video, but what sounds like the original audio/talking is in the background of the Greenpath section at least. It took me offguard and I thought something was autoplaying in another tab, but it stopped when I paused, and continued when I played. Very overwhelming/distracting.
at the first point where you couldnt avoid grass in kings pass just a moment earlier a stalactite falls from the roof and i wonder if you could whack it accross and knock out any or all grass?
So we touched all the grass , we avoided all the grass. We structurised everything , we randomised everything. We beat horn , we made *orn. And there is still *no silksong*. Man. Silksong is gonna be such a massive polished game.
now we know why Skurry has to keep cutting down the grass, it’s to protect their anti-grass friend Blue!
Could he have just hit the stalagmite tire whatever and it would have rocketed it and destroyed the grass in kingdoms pass?
His?
@@miksonpl2283skurry is non-binary
@@miksonpl2283 their :]
@@miksonpl2283 nope. Skurry intentionally uses they/ them pronouns. So, we do our best to respect that
I managed to beat my first playthrough like this, I thought that the grass killed you like in real life.
"like in real life" 😭
fym "like in real life"?? 😭
I think this is my favourite comment now
Ari : "Hey William, did we check on the grass geometry in Silksong to make interesting challenges for BlueSR seven years from now?"
William : "You know what, we didn't, give me another three months to work on that."
Underrated comment
But at what cost?
>implying silksong will be out in seven years
@Zaluuk no cost too great
Skurry is Yin, Blue is Yang. Together, they make the two halves of the ‘dumb grass-related hollow knight challenges’ whole
Blue realized after this video he could've just downloaded Balatro to avoid all the grass touches.
gg though, this was a fun video!
So true
skurry: grass%
blue: antigrass%
Silly blue, as Hollow Knight players we all have beaten the game without touching grass. This is light work to us
😂
what no silksong does to a mf
The HK community is starving
They're going feral fr
Let’s be honest, we haven’t touch grass.
15:28
"Ultimately, what made this place so difficult to navigate grasslessly..."
This phrase belongs firmly on the 'never would have been said outside of video game context' list. A true gamer's phrase, for a true gamer's challenge.
We pissing off Skurry with this one 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
From Skurry getting a job as Lawnmower to Blue skipping all grass
Hollow Knight streamers need a glimpse of silksong
0:29 how do you sleep at night missing 3 achievements 😭
probably has gotten them all but just reset the achievements on steam
I wonder what they are cant be p5 or the speedrun achievements probably sealed siblings
@yonaaas Wait, you can do that?
Im still missing 3 because i hate steel soul, and im still working on absolute radience ascended to get used to the speed
Staying at 62 achievments forever cuz I'm not killing my boy nailsmith
I thought about doing this a couple months ago, but decided on option a, when I encountered the first impossible grass jump
glad you decided to actually explore the idea further
Why are you dying ☠ to bosses 👨🏼? You should just be using descending dark 🕶. Descending ⬇ dark 🕶 gives you s 👀 which stop 🛑 you taking damage 😔. It also does a🅰🅰 lot of damage 😢. Stop 🛑 dying ☠ to video 📻📻👾 game 👾 bosses 👨🏼 and just use descending ⬇ dark 🌑
What’s the origin of this?
I FUCKING👃🕳 LOVE ❤️ 😍 💖 ❣️ 💕 DESCENDING ⬇️⬇️ DARK⚫️⚫️⚫️ sosososososooooooo much 💖💝💖💖
I FUCKING CANT LIVE💖🚫WITHOUT IT.
I DARKLY DESENCD ALL THE FUCKING TIME WHILE WAITINF FOR SKSKSKSKOOOOONNGNGGGG
@@dashfire3185oh God he's gone insane waiting for silksong
@dashfire3185 pebbles what happened?
@8-Lapis-8 What better way to spend what feels like eternity than getting invested in a great community of a peak game, then become invested in the next installment and waste time doing stupid shit, clinging to whatever entertainment while I wait for a futile release date.
The first grass touch might be able to be avoided by cutting with a spike off the ceiling. By deflecting a spike, it might be able to reach the grass if the stalactites can actually cut grass.
13:23 You did touch it, your hitboxes clip the grass pretty obviously on the upper right.
15:33 You clip the first grass as well, very very subtly but you can see the hitboxes overlap briefly for a few frames. You may also clip the last grass there, but it's kind of hard to tell. It does seem like two consecutive grass touches though.
19:44 Going frame by frame, there's a couple where you definitely clip the grass on your dip in the activation of Monarch Wings.
Assuming you've shown all your close calls in this video, or that I have not missed any overlaps, the true final total would be 16 grass touches. Definitely still very impressive!
are you sure you're looking at the right hitbox? the smaller, orange one is the one that counts for grass interactions, not the slightly bigger yellow one. This is relevant as it is the smaller, orange hitbox that triggers the grass rustling when touched. I realise i wasn't super clear on this in the video (only appears briefly in text at the start for a few frames)
@@BlueSRorange hitboxes do overlap tho, at least in the first example for sure
@@BlueSR For the 13:23 one, they def overlap
Looking at the 15:33 jump in frame advance: the knight's orange hitbox goes from being to the right on one frame to being just barely above on the next. The hitboxes essentially touch but don't overlap. In 15:36 the yellow hitbox clips the grass for one frame but the orange never touches.
@@BlueSR Yes, both hit boxes overlap at the 13:23 instance.
Blue. Why don't you have all 63 achievements, Blue. Blue, you're a failure. Blue, you need all of the achievements. Blue, you have to finish the game. You're not done yet, Blue.
You hearted my comment, Blue. I know you saw it. I expect you to have all 63 achievements by the end of the year. I'll be waiting, Blue.
This is such a good idea, I'm shocked no one has thought of this yet. The complete opposite of Grass%. I feel like this really embodies us waiting for Silksong to come out. I liked your quick intro, tho I do personally hard disagree that 0:06 is grass, it definitely isn't, it's moss. But still a great challenge and follow through, it's nice to set your own rules up front and I appreciate that. I look forward to what you do in the future!
I love watching grass related challenges in Hollow knight.
So excited for min-grass speedruns.
This is honestly my favorite Halloween Knight video I’ve seen so far. This is a great video!
I hope you’re feeling okay with the mentioned burnout Blue! We’ll all understand and appreciate it if you take a break (even though your videos are incredible), your health is the most important thing for everyone!:)
Thank you for making such amazing content as always and always remember that you’re amazing!
BlueSR uploaded, it's a Christmas miracle!
The when Blue touches more grass in a no touching grass hk challenge than the average hk player does irl in their entire life
This was such a goofy idea and I love how you thought through all the routes and stuff! Super fun.
Oh god no not the d dark copypasta-
16:18 "through s..." through what? through silksong? WHAT DO YOU KNOW?????
skurry would be furious
6:20 Beautiful music
Fireball the grass so it’s gone and you don’t touch it
fireball doesnt break grass
Fireball certainly seemed to break grass in Menderbug's Revenge. Was that just vines?
@@Mothuzad Just checked in game and it only makes grass & vines sway and doesnt break them. not too familiar with menderbug's revenge, perhaps it could change it to make it harder?
That descending dark copypasta is so funny
Another blue banger coming right up
Finally.
The gamer% speedrun.
Anti-skurry run
Never underestimate a man's ability to avoid touching grass.
Every time you put that stupid descending ⬇️ dark 🌑 I read it. Just to torture myself. I blame you for it.
Even trying to touch as little grass as possible... he succeded to touch more than the casual League of Legend player !
An idea for a video: “hollow knight but if you look at an enemy you take damage” with an eye tracker ofc
Idk how that would work but that’s genius
Haven't finished yet but I love that you've used your very beautiful a capella covers of the soundtrack.
no quantum grass :(
SilkSong waiters refusal to touch grass are on another level.
1:57 it would of been really fun to end the video
at 10:10 would simply cutting the grass help? or do you leave the scene through the stag before using it again?
It would be so funny if the raidiance is a piece of grass 😂
I was waiting so long for this video. Big w and happy new year holiday to blue.
i think 90% of us already did this...
"oh he means inn gameeee"
I...couldn't even think of this..this is wild. Damn good job
can't wait for the no grass silksong challenge video in 400 billion years
This sounds amazing! I am so excited to watch this!! :D
your editing is getting really good blue :3 take time for yourself, i spent a lot of my twenties burned out and i don't want that to happen to you
1:22 Is it possible to use the stalactite and hit it into the grass somehow to knock it out of the way? Or would that count as touching grass?
Can stalactites break grass? I've never thought about it before. That would be a clever solution, but it also could go against the spirit of the challenge if the idea is to preserve the grass as it is without rustling it.
0:28 60 ACHIVEMENTS OUT OF 63? Such a great player with 3000 HOURS AT THIS GAME? WHY? Are those achivements too lame? Like how? Why I dont get it?
Ffffiinnaaaly another blue videoooo
best of luck getting those last 3 achievements if anyone can do it I believe you could
It's your life, and you have no obligation to your audience or anyone else. We're here because we want to support you, and we find your content entertaining. But if what you need is to shift your focus to other things in life, do that. At the end of the day you're living for yourself.
If and when you want to return to this, there will still be people to support you in that. Make no apologies for taking care of your needs in the meantime.
After seeing you in all those arcane comments, finally a new vid
Cool video with some really awsome tricks and kicks.... might recomend adjusting the audio though; at some points your live commentary is in the background during your voice over and I had difficulties understanding the VO even though it was really quiet it still made the VO muddled for me but over all loved the vid
6:46 I know you probably left this there for the viewers to comment on, but you touched this grass
I put in the wrong clip💀
I gotta give shoutouts to no dash, Fungal Wastes to City of Tears. Very skillful!
is it possible to destroy grass by jellyfish 's explosion? or is it just against the rules?
Is there any potential to getting Isma's instead of adding the two on the way to Crystal Heart?
Also, maybe there's some input buffer that could stop the Knight when exiting a room transition?
Artistically, the grass in Crossroads is supposed to give you a feeling of overgrown-ness, but also to make you feel more welcome than a more plain, abandoned road would. Grass touch you gently. Place like you. Place nice. It's the fake out before Infected's fuckery.. ... ... But, also, yes, TC purposefully placed grass in doorways to make a grassless-touch run impossible. I also agree with that. XP
BlueSR PRONOUNCES DIRTMOUTH CORRECTLY LETS GOOOO
That is like a platformer demon in geometry dash
Fr
Relatable title (take out hollow knight and put "life" between beat and without)
had a stroke tryna understand that
Bro becoming a real gamer 💀
Bluesr uploaded my day is offically good
I have so many ideas for routings
The main question I have is entering peaks through dirthmouth
I know I saw a setup one day which used wings and dash slash to do some wacky wall shenanigans and you ended up being able to climb up to the elevator from near jiji’s hut
That would skip one grass touch to get into peaks
But may require getting dash (and also wings without cdash, but you can probably avoid all the grass leading to wings with only vs, claw, and stall balls), and on that topic, im wondering how much grass you would touch if you tried to get to dash from howling cliffs, as you are only a few rooms away from hornet
The rest seems pretty much optimised and this one grass to peak seems like the only possible optimisation
Unless…
Well you can always just skip cdash entirely and do explosion pogos to get to monomon using ooma cores but…
Yeah :zote:
i think the thing that has the most potential is easily a Tram Pass based route. i really didn't consider it that much while doing the run actually....
Few months late: The history of beating hollow knight without touching grass.
Slopeball AND grass? Skurry had to felt a disturbance in the force...
thanks to this challenge we now have grass fireball skips
0:28 3,146.2 hours and missing 3 achievements Hollow Knight always has more to do
15:36 the knight does collide with the grass
6:14 this song plays in my head every time I'm greenpath, so this sound completely normal to me :)
13:23 frame 22 (21~ hitboxess overlap), grass touched!
This is a disgrace to skurry
Yes. It’s called speedrunning. You heard of it?
3:18, say that again
THE ONE PIECE IS REEEEEEEEEEEAL
Personally I like "minimal grass touching" more than "no grass touching" because, as you said, others can possibly improve on it.
15:37 although it doesn't look like it the hit boxes do slightly overlap here causing another grads touch
omg he’s back
I guess crossroad having grass right on transitions is intentional, to give some feedback to the movement to make the early game that has few movements feel better and the grass animation can highlight the knight's position after transition
I wonder how much true ending would have
at 13:23 if you go to .25 times speed you can see that he did touch grass
The knight is now the gamer
The TRUE challenge: beat hollow knight normally but you count how many times you touch grass
You mad bastard, you did it 😂
18:43 *LEGS ARE GRASS*
7:50 this is actually the only epogo on current patch I had learnt until recently on my somewhat new max% cashless challenge run file I'm doing.dunno why I decided to learnt the dash variant when I'm doing a dashless run
There's a video from emray about how to do it from a couple year ago if I remember correctly for those who want to try it out
Hyped for NMG lowgrass% speedruns
We need No Grass TAS, it even rhymes.
ancient basin footage 💛
get this man a silksong
Unsure if necessary to point out, and I havent finished yet so I don't know if it persists throughout the video, but what sounds like the original audio/talking is in the background of the Greenpath section at least.
It took me offguard and I thought something was autoplaying in another tab, but it stopped when I paused, and continued when I played. Very overwhelming/distracting.
Whoops! That’s audio from the stream footage that slipped through. My bad :P
God i hope silk song is going to be good.
Otherwise the glazing it will get by hollow knigh TH-cam is going to be unbearable.
I think the Hollow Knight content pool is dried up.
12:51 bro moonwalking
at the first point where you couldnt avoid grass in kings pass just a moment earlier a stalactite falls from the roof and i wonder if you could whack it accross and knock out any or all grass?
We got optimizing grass avoidance before Silksong.
So we touched all the grass , we avoided all the grass.
We structurised everything , we randomised everything.
We beat horn , we made *orn.
And there is still *no silksong*.
Man. Silksong is gonna be such a massive polished game.