You are aware that the machine has a 800C taper crimp die tool set in it, hence no long a B machine in that sense. The B tool set will not taper crimp the dies, nor will work with the new HS hulls since they are shorter than say a CF or STS hull, and the B set will leave a hole in the center of the crimp for shot to fall out of. The easy way to tell that the die set is a C taper crimp die set, is the hull knock out rod is the spring loaded cup design, not the solid rod type, and the fact that the hulls stick out of the top of the sizers once crimped. As for how to tell that its on older C toolset, and not a current taper crimp set, is by the top of the sizers. The older C type sizers had a more flatter top edge, while the current taper crimp sizers from a 800 convertible to the current machine, the outer top edges of the sizers are angle tapered instead. On a true 800B tool set that does not taper crimp, again the crimped shells would be the height top of the sizers (and not taper crimped), and the hull knock out tool would be a solid rod instead. Really, the only down side to a B machine in 12 gauge, is that you can not just drop a 20 or smaller tool set on it and work, since the U slot in the cross plate is too wide for the sub gauge shells on the 12 gauge B machine . Hence the narrow U slot in the cross plate is what retains the sub gauge hull from being driving down in the sizer as the primer is being knock out of the hull. On the B sub gauge machines (20 and smaller) its cross plate does have the narrow U slot in the cross plate, as well as the primer assembly milled for the narrow cross plate U slot, which makes the B machines in sub gauges more desirable instead. Note, PW does offer a insert piece that can be milled into a 12 gauge machine cross slot that will solve the slot problem, but you still have to mill the top of the primer assembly to work with the narrow U slot. If you don't have a mill or someone to do the the needed milling for you, then it a really deal breaker if you are buying a 12 gauge B machine thinking that it will sub gauge convert with just a new tool set, since you would have to change not only the cross plate out to a smaller U channel plate, but also have to change the primer assembly if you are just throwing new parts on the machine to solve the problem isntead. (read over $400 in parts),
I like the way your bench is set up to control the occasional spill of shot/powder. Helps to make clean-up quick and easy.
You are aware that the machine has a 800C taper crimp die tool set in it, hence no long a B machine in that sense.
The B tool set will not taper crimp the dies, nor will work with the new HS hulls since they are shorter than say a CF or STS hull, and the B set will leave a hole in the center of the crimp for shot to fall out of.
The easy way to tell that the die set is a C taper crimp die set, is the hull knock out rod is the spring loaded cup design, not the solid rod type, and the fact that the hulls stick out of the top of the sizers once crimped. As for how to tell that its on older C toolset, and not a current taper crimp set, is by the top of the sizers. The older C type sizers had a more flatter top edge, while the current taper crimp sizers from a 800 convertible to the current machine, the outer top edges of the sizers are angle tapered instead.
On a true 800B tool set that does not taper crimp, again the crimped shells would be the height top of the sizers (and not taper crimped), and the hull knock out tool would be a solid rod instead.
Really, the only down side to a B machine in 12 gauge, is that you can not just drop a 20 or smaller tool set on it and work, since the U slot in the cross plate is too wide for the sub gauge shells on the 12 gauge B machine . Hence the narrow U slot in the cross plate is what retains the sub gauge hull from being driving down in the sizer as the primer is being knock out of the hull.
On the B sub gauge machines (20 and smaller) its cross plate does have the narrow U slot in the cross plate, as well as the primer assembly milled for the narrow cross plate U slot, which makes the B machines in sub gauges more desirable instead.
Note, PW does offer a insert piece that can be milled into a 12 gauge machine cross slot that will solve the slot problem, but you still have to mill the top of the primer assembly to work with the narrow U slot. If you don't have a mill or someone to do the the needed milling for you, then it a really deal breaker if you are buying a 12 gauge B machine thinking that it will sub gauge convert with just a new tool set, since you would have to change not only the cross plate out to a smaller U channel plate, but also have to change the primer assembly if you are just throwing new parts on the machine to solve the problem isntead. (read over $400 in parts),
I have a silver st 800c I load long yardage shells. I could not be happyer. Thanks for the video
i have a 800 B and it looks like you need to adjust your final crimp as your crimp looks shallow.
I still have mine. A little light rust ( lack of use ) but works perfectly no chips or peeling.
How can I get one of them.
I want to get one, how?