Man Outsider I have to give you the biggest shout out! I convinced my wife and 13 yr old. daughter to join me on this ride as my wife and I have only been riding about 3 months and my daughter for 6 months. Today we traveled from the Palm Springs area and man was it worth it. Definitely killed our legs lol! Your video was so detailed we managed to not get lost and have fun. Around 7:45 of your video after that fence I said the heck with it and gave that woody area a try and oh boy lol. I ate it once in the middle because I was a bit lost and hesitated and a turn came quick...but popped up and kept it moving! We appreciate the love and dedication you have for MTB. You sharing your adventures allow us to prepare for ours! Keep it up you rock! Next up we are going to try Sky Park! Saw your video and said WTH lol!
I will let you know how Sky Park goes. What’s a good beginner course up there? Also, I showed some friends one of them being a family of the Fullerton loop footage of our trip and your video and they all are searching for their first MTB. This is awesome!
Due to the bug epidemic, finally got my Giant, Fathom 29r1 & hit the trail and wrecked 3 times and I loved it! My bike got it's fist war scar and I got two really bloody knees for my efforts. I learned a lot though: In fact, here are my top 4 lessons learned: 1) I am not The Outsider 2) Respect the climbs & just because a lot of the track classifies as a sort of gravel ride, bring your tire pressure down under 30psi 3) Adjust your shocks and give yourself a good Rebound as there are sections that will bounce you off your bike if your fork is too stiff. This is especially important if you have a Hardtail like my Fathom 29r1 And #4, Mountain Bikes are true tanks and can take a beating; I was amazed. My ego was a little inflated after hearing from so many folks The Loop was easy and as I said before, I wrecked REALLY BAD 3 times, so respect it. I'll list them out in separate comments: Anyhow, great video, Outsider!! You da man!!
I ride the loop almost every week and have learned to love & respect it for what it is. It's not an epic remote scenic ride but it's right in the hood. Ride it with some buddies and share a cold one afterwards. Funny how people think it's easy (which it is for the most part) but a lot of people have taken some good falls there.
I have a specialized sirrus 4.0 hybrid bike. The guy who recommended this trail (who is an employee) said that my bike can handle this trail. I'm a pretty decent rider, but I'm mainly on road. Any advice?
@@Deltafoo I'll chime in. Your bike is a true road hybrid. A cross between a road bike with kinda-sorta mountain bike geometry. Meant mostly for paved roads without going all in on drop bars and road bike things like thin wheels/tires etc.. Your bike shines best on paved roads, however looking at it online it has wider wheels/tires and the geometry looks balanced enough that you could ride the loop in many of its sections. Bare in mind, LOTS of the loop is true offroad if even easy off road. I would caution riding anything other than anything less than a entry level mountain bike on some of those sections. For the flat fire-road (double track) sections your hybrid should be a-ok. Just note that your tires are not designed for this and could be subject to damage. Maybe take ~5 PSI or so out to give yourself more grip and give. You're going to notice that even on the Floop that most people are riding MTB. Even the simplest hardtail MTB with a basic coil front fork will out perform your hybrid. However that shouldn't stop you! Gravel bikes are thing, fixed suspension and meant for stuff like the floop. Your bike isn't that far off from that. Just know your limitations and get on the bike I say. You'll know when/if you get out of line, then just stay in bounds.
This morning was my first MTB ride ever and I rode the Fullerton Loop on a Specialized hardtail. Your GoPro definitely doesn't do those climbs justice. I had to walk up half of them. You made them look so easy! Amazing video - I didn't get lost at all due watching this video 10 times. Love The Outsider content. Stumbling upon one of your videos a month ago inspired me to make the MTB purchase. I remember watching you skate back in the day. We appreciate the videos. Thanks.
@@TheOutsiderMTB Thank you brother. I'm not super high on the Specialized Pitch Comp 1X that I purchased. I've convinced my wife to let me get a full suspension. Would you recommend a YT Jeffsy Base or Capra Base? 27.5 of course. Thanks!
This is the best FL video I have seen. You did a great job of showing most of the important parts. I used to ride it weekly in the 90s back when it wasn’t nearly as smooth. There were two sections you missed that we rode every time but to your credit, there are really an endless amount of variations you could create with so many options. I used to ride it with a group of desert racers that would smoke me on the downhill but this course is so flat I would drop them on the climbs bad enough that they couldn’t catch up. We used to have names for every section. Some of them stuck and we heard others using them. The tree covered area just before you cross Euclid is called Sherwood Forest. There are at least two sections you showed that are new and look great. I have been bikeless for about 5 years. I just turned 50 and am picking up a Specialized Epic Hardtail in 2 days. I have had FL in my crosshairs for many years, always yearning to go back. It is a perfect cross country course well suited for a hardtail. We used to finish it in under an hour with no shortcuts. Hopefully I see you out there when I finally saddle up again. Thanks more this outstanding video covering one of SoCal’s best gems of a ride. Pound for pound it is hard to beat IMO. Cheers.
Hey thanks for the backstory and kind words! I have much newer vids from the loop as well. They probably cover the other sections and one of the newer ones I broke my bars at the jump zone. Cheers!
Beginner here, Been doing the loop every Saturday morning for the past past month, and I’m loving it! I didn’t know about the dam section, will be going thru it this Saturday 💪🏻
I watched this video at least once before, and this time through I caught what I did wrong on the trail on Thursday (25 May 2023). I didn't turn right after the green gate😖. I cut off the entire Brea Dam part, just went back down Harbor. I'd ridden all the way up from home in Anaheim, by then I was beat. I will do it right next time. Thanks again for this awesome video. It's a great guide for this trail
Watched the video but didn't finish the whole thing, then when my son and I tried it for the 1st time we got lost halfway, lol! Watching it again in its entirety and I already recognize where we strayed off the trail. Thanks for the video, it's really helpful!
Thanks for this video. Im new to mountain biking and I was intimidated to try this trail until I watched your video. I have ridden it twice now and am super pumped to check out other trails! Thanks again!
There's an extra credit climb after the golf course to the left up Panorama Trail. Best view of the ride for sure. Well done video man, keep it up. Subscribed!
I've been riding the Floop fairly often for about 3 years, I love it! I finally logged 100 Floops on Strava earlier this year. Its my favorite trail ever. I actually rode Floop a few times back in the 80's on a 20" BMX bike, and there used to be a jump line with doubles along the start of the trail by the courthouse lol. All the rain this year added a lot of weeds and ruts, which makes it a bit more challenging. I noticed there are a bunch more little offshoots and jumps now than in your video from 5 years ago.
I’m here at the loop wearing a green fisherman hat and nikes I love this loop trail ..leaving at 1pm ..today is my first time and will not be my last ! Thanks again big dawg!
Thanks for the upload man. I've done the loop several times in the past. I'm gonna take my step son whose 12 to the loop we got him his 1st mtb. He's excited to do it. This guide really helps. Cuz. I probably forgot how to navigate the through the whole thing. Lol 👍🏽
I did the loop today, awesome fitness trail. I will try to ride every other week early in the day when its still cool, definitely when the weather cools down. Be Strong & Shout At The Devil.
Thank you for showing this trail! I have little kids and this is perfect for them at this point. I hope I can take them on real trails soon, but I'm still researching.
Thanks for the video. I rode The Loop for the first time a few weeks ago. Your video made it super easy to navigate the route. If you're a beginner, or getting back into riding like I am, this is a great trail to learn/relearn basic MTBing skills.
Awesome video man, I just bought my first MTB at the Fullerton Bike Shop and they recommended this trail. It's definitely going to help me on my first time!
This video is great. It helped me finally complete the loop. The only thing if I may add is one thing. When you pass the golf course and you get to the tunnels you have to take the left one. I kept taking the right and it would take me to the ymca and it was a dead end. Until my friend told me to take the left tunnel and finally finished. But great video and it helped me finish
Thanks for the feedback and glad this vid helped you out in the trail. Stay tuned for tomorrow as my next vid dives deeper into the secrets of this loop. 👍🏼✔️
👍Thanks for making this. Gonna ride it tomorrow for my first time in about 8 years and second time overall. I couldn't remember the route so this is really helpful. Thanks again!
Nice video! I've been thinking about doing it on my gravel bike for a while and seeing your video I know it's definitely rideable on a gravel bike. I plan to be out there Saturday. Thanks.
Rode it yesterday at noon after morning rain, and it was great..... we just didn’t go left over the bridge. Way too muddy by the tracks. Took main trail straight back to court house.
If youre lost, just ask a rider if you can tag along. We have certainly had some people follow us and teach them the trail. I love the loop as you can ride it and still be really close to home. Also a workout and you can work on your time. I ride it sometimes with my cx bike.
Great point - one of the first times I rode here I had someone direct me for a bit as well. Perfect local loop to get some pedal time in. Thanks for tuning in!
Thanks for this, bro. It was fun reliving this ride, which I did for the first time yesterday. I probably wouldn't take advantage of all the "extra credit" bonuses you took, but it's cool to see all the ones I missed. Two things: 1) I managed to stay on the trail using the map in MTB Project all the way until I got to the two tunnels before the dam. Now I find out that I should have taken the left tunnel instead of the right one. Still managed to find my way back to the courthouse, but it looks like I missed out on a fun section of trail. 2) Not sure if they were built after you filmed this, but there a couple of really cool jumps right before the golf course. I didn't have the huevos to try them, but two other riders took them full throttle and amazed a giant family of hikers who happened to walking along the trail to the right. Next time I might have to try the jumps!
Thank you very much for putting this video together. The visual references and landmarks are so helpful when riding the trail for the first time. I went for the first time in June and had a blast even if I did miss a lot of the east side of the loop. I've been determined to figure out the loop without the aid of GPS. I have a suggestion if you plan to do more trail guide videos. Please avoid making short cuts when editing. Instead, either leave the footage rolling or maybe fast forward a bit. One example is the green gate at the end of Laguna Lake Trail. You point out the gate, cut the footage, and then say to make a sharp right. With the discontinuity from the cut, it's confusing where the sharp right is relative to the green gate. I assumed the cut was needed because it was further down the trail. I started my ride at Laguna Lake and missed the very first turn, haha.
Another type of landmark that might be helpful is the "if you see this, you missed the turn and went too far" but that gets to be a lot of extra information.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. I have another Fullerton Loop vid with some extra bonus knowledge and areas too, as well as a dozens more trail guides. Might be useful to check out for more riding options. ✔️😉
My first wreck was at 4:07 on this "punchy climb" which is in reality, really steep!! I got halfway up and stopped but because of the steepness, I started rolling backwards and went in hard into the bushes! At 7:46, I just lost it here because I came down with too much speed. There was a bump my rear wheel hit that because my tires were so inflated, bounced me off and over the edge here. And then at 14:17, I lost my nerve once i was committed to coming down that steep drop, which looks so small on this video!! Anyhow, I landed it, but I over pumped my rear break to turn right and I slid because of my tire pressure and lose, dry dirt. I fell derailleur side , too, so I was sure I had ruined it, but I forgot I was riding an MTB and it was fine. The rest of this fast section at 14:21, while it looks fun (and it is), is really bumpy with mini-jumps you don't see, so if you get too much speed, DO NOT USE your front brakes to slow you down. And if you have a hardtail, drop your seat and hold on, as this is one bumpy ride, but a blast!! This is the one section I wanted to go back up to do again!
Ran this awesome loop today! I might be crazy but I'm like 85% sure I saw you at the lake and didn't immediately recognize you...was bugging me for the rest of the loop haha
I've ridden the loop a few times now. I've never exited the Brea Dam Park area the same way twice. On Friday, I took a way that led me on to Elks Hill Way which goes to Brea blvd and the softball fields.
I fish at the Laguna Lake n I always see the bikes pass by. It looked cool so I wanted to try it, I just recently bought a bike n can't wait to ride the Fullerton Loop.. Tnx for the video!!
Thanks for the video. I'm a beginner MTB rider that lives in Fullerton and have been trying a few sections of the loop. I was super confused on where certain sections connected. I think I have a pretty good idea now. 👍
Appreciate that Brandon. Seems to be helpful to a lot of people so I’m happy about that. I’m doing a part 2 this month with some Bonus stuff so stay tuned. 😉
@@TheOutsiderMTB look forward to it. I live in RSM now for the last 20 years so I'm in the middle of mtb land. Would love to hook up ride someday. Go back to the luge and conquer it
So true. I hadn't ridden here in a loooonng time but I stumbled across Outsider MTB's channel and it really inspired me to get back to some of these trails that I hadn't ridden in ages. I went on a Saturday last week at about 9:00AM, haha, probably THE WORST possible time even in non-pandemic times! Anyway, throughout the entire loop, the place was grand central station, cavalcades of bikers, hikers, runners, kids, strollers, you name it! The good news was, I could just follow the masses and figure out the directions very easily. I went back today at the crack of dawn and it was much more manageable, and I knew exactly where I was going.
Thanks Tony, great video. I've been itchin to try MTB and you inspired me to give it a try at the Fullerton loop. Great tips from you and a downloaded map I still made a couple of wrong turns but quickly back on track. My Trek Dual Sport3 did good but a real MTB would be much better here. Thought I was in really decent shape until I met the climbs and then a few more climbs, kicked my butt!
I have always heard of the Fullerton Loop but never got around to try it. I go mountain biking to get away from the city. I am glad I saw this video, now I know I dont want to try the Loop.
Just hit this trail today, Used this video the whole time to keep figuring out where to go (went solo) Video def helped, but it has a lot of differences than the ride above. @10:24 Terrain is either overgrown/all broken up so a lot of whats shown above isnt quite accessable anymore @13:00 there are about 4-5 "speedbumps" that have been put on this hill. So you are flying down and just these sudden bumps out of no where, maybe 10-20 feet apart, with the biggest one near the bottom maybe 20 feet from the curb, @14:00 all the drops have basically given away, my new ass wasnt gonna try that lol but in the video it looks so much different @15:15 again there are 2 "speed bumps" at the end, literally before the slight turn. No idea why they were put in but yea that much speed and those bumps scared me good @19:50 someone came thru and built some jumps (that you can avoid) and 1 jump goes into a big burm. I took that but there was a rando golfer chilling on the road! lucky I didnt hit him lol @20:21 once you exit the tunnel, it almost looks nothing like the video. No gate, theres a river now! You go up the hill and its multi direction. My phone died here and I pull up to a spot with 5 different Directions to go! lol Besides those points, rest is spot on and I still had the jist of the trail. Def hard to do as a solo first time, just due to directions.Video still really helped!
The berms are really fun on the main trail. But the single track through the little woody sections is way steeper then it looks, there was a massive GoPro effect on the single track.
The Outsider MTB aha you know what i actually watched that one first and watched this one right after but im excited man! Seen a few of your other videos and cant wait to hit more trails!
I hit rosecrans single track section for the first time today and it was a very sloppy ride…i need to be better with managing turns accompanied with speed…I have been going to this loop for numerous time now since aug and my dh progression I say is around 45% since I started. Uphill climbs is more than decent because working out is my priority but man….this single track is something i really need to get better with.
Hey Outsider! Rode Fullerton for the first time last week after your review, was a huge help with navigation. Thanks. I had an 11 year old who struggled a bit with the elevation. Are you able to make a video that could taylor the course for an easier ride? Also, what equipment setup did you use to record the review?
Glad to hear it! I use a hero 8 with a chesty harness. Don’t think I’m going to make another fullerton vid - I think there are about 6 in the library. 👍✔️
If you look at the map of the trial it’s pretty easy to cut parts out if you’re looking to do less climbs or a just a quicker ride in general! Most of the streets you cross you end up crossing back over at some point so you can skip whatever you want easily if you’re not ready for the whole thing! Happy riding!
What you think about trek Marlin 6 model 2022… how strong is for trails??? I have that bike tomorrow is gonna be the first time used let’s see how good is for trails
So when you take the other tunnel after the golf course, the right one instead of the left one, you soon come to a network of jumps (large tabletops, gaps, etc.) that looks very tempting, but probably way beyond my skill set, lol. Not yours, though! It would be the perfect place to have a coach conduct some jump clinics and get people to overcome their jumping fears.
@@TheOutsiderMTB Whoa, I'll have to watch that one. I watched the two main Fullerton Loop ones that you did (this one here and stuff you should know) which were extremely helpful! I could have sworn I watched another one where you broke your bars as well, maybe it was a Laguna one?
Awesome. I need to hit this trail up once I get another bike. Looks very confusing, what’s an easy way to navigate first time alone? Phone mount to look at coordinates?? Been awhile since I’ve owned a mountain bike. Starting to get the dad bod due to Covid laziness so I need to get some cardio and get back into riding again. Just not sure what bike to look into that’s not insane priced, mainly this type of riding but something the shocks can handle my fat butt. Lol. Budget is prob up to 2500
Used to ride this trail 2 or 3 times a week. Haven’t been on it in over 10 years. Only ride road bikes now. Want to go back but feel intimidated lol. Brings back good memories. Are Thursday night rides still a thing?
I just wanna meet Pip! Is that wrong? LoL!! Jk, jk... Would love to tag along next time you feel like doing The Loop. I try to ride it every week after work. I've definitely missed a lot of the Brea Dam sections, until seeing your 2nd video on the Loop. Never knew that stuff was there!
I recently picked up a pair of chonky (for me) 2.2 inch tires for my gravel bike and solo rode the floop as my first foray into mountain biking. On a fully rigid drop bar bike, it was very fun, very challenging, and a hell of a learning experience. Are there any other trails in LA/OC that you'd recommend for me and my rig? I feel like the blue trails on mtb project err on the side of having more squish underneath the rider and I'd learn more technique on the bike than recovering my rattled meat vehicle
I plan to ride this with my 10 yr old son. are there any spots that is double track so that we can turn around/back track if he gets tired? or any spot to exit the loop? thanks.
@@TheOutsiderMTB four boards hill climb is next to the oil fields. It’s a left hand turn sandy bottom with 4 railroad boards you go over about a quarter the way up it should be the steepest incline on the whole course
How fast were you going when you said" just let off your breaks and open it up" also what kind of dinosaur did you see at Laguna lake. Great video by the way.
Haha thanks! He just popped his head up, so it was a tough one to get specific on. On the speed - no idea. Comfortable fast I'd say. Thanks for watching skydog.
really cool video! Are you on Strava? I'd like to see the route you just did. Or can you point me in the right direction of the loop? I've been out to the loop a few times, but it's been kind of discouraging for me. I don't know all the ins and outs. And it's frustrating. LOL I live in Anaheim. Maybe we can meet up and you can show me? But having the route you just did would really help out. thanks!!
@@TheOutsiderMTB Hi. I don't see any info for strava on the video, just hashtags. HOWEVER, I did find you on STRavA. I got the route.. You have helped immensely!!!!
This trail is quite rough for my gravel bike, is there an easier path that has less downhill? Also, is there any long distance gravel bike path in the area?
Man Outsider I have to give you the biggest shout out! I convinced my wife and 13 yr old. daughter to join me on this ride as my wife and I have only been riding about 3 months and my daughter for 6 months. Today we traveled from the Palm Springs area and man was it worth it. Definitely killed our legs lol! Your video was so detailed we managed to not get lost and have fun. Around 7:45 of your video after that fence I said the heck with it and gave that woody area a try and oh boy lol. I ate it once in the middle because I was a bit lost and hesitated and a turn came quick...but popped up and kept it moving! We appreciate the love and dedication you have for MTB. You sharing your adventures allow us to prepare for ours! Keep it up you rock! Next up we are going to try Sky Park! Saw your video and said WTH lol!
That's awesome! Love hearing that and hyped you all made a day out of it!
I will let you know how Sky Park goes. What’s a good beginner course up there? Also, I showed some friends one of them being a family of the Fullerton loop footage of our trip and your video and they all are searching for their first MTB. This is awesome!
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Due to the bug epidemic, finally got my Giant, Fathom 29r1 & hit the trail and wrecked 3 times and I loved it! My bike got it's fist war scar and I got two really bloody knees for my efforts. I learned a lot though: In fact, here are my top 4 lessons learned: 1) I am not The Outsider 2) Respect the climbs & just because a lot of the track classifies as a sort of gravel ride, bring your tire pressure down under 30psi 3) Adjust your shocks and give yourself a good Rebound as there are sections that will bounce you off your bike if your fork is too stiff. This is especially important if you have a Hardtail like my Fathom 29r1 And #4, Mountain Bikes are true tanks and can take a beating; I was amazed. My ego was a little inflated after hearing from so many folks The Loop was easy and as I said before, I wrecked REALLY BAD 3 times, so respect it. I'll list them out in separate comments: Anyhow, great video, Outsider!! You da man!!
Good stuff and thanks for sharing! 👊👍
I ride the loop almost every week and have learned to love & respect it for what it is. It's not an epic remote scenic ride but it's right in the hood. Ride it with some buddies and share a cold one afterwards.
Funny how people think it's easy (which it is for the most part) but a lot of people have taken some good falls there.
Good stuff.
I have a specialized sirrus 4.0 hybrid bike. The guy who recommended this trail (who is an employee) said that my bike can handle this trail. I'm a pretty decent rider, but I'm mainly on road. Any advice?
@@Deltafoo I'll chime in. Your bike is a true road hybrid. A cross between a road bike with kinda-sorta mountain bike geometry. Meant mostly for paved roads without going all in on drop bars and road bike things like thin wheels/tires etc.. Your bike shines best on paved roads, however looking at it online it has wider wheels/tires and the geometry looks balanced enough that you could ride the loop in many of its sections. Bare in mind, LOTS of the loop is true offroad if even easy off road. I would caution riding anything other than anything less than a entry level mountain bike on some of those sections. For the flat fire-road (double track) sections your hybrid should be a-ok. Just note that your tires are not designed for this and could be subject to damage. Maybe take ~5 PSI or so out to give yourself more grip and give. You're going to notice that even on the Floop that most people are riding MTB. Even the simplest hardtail MTB with a basic coil front fork will out perform your hybrid. However that shouldn't stop you! Gravel bikes are thing, fixed suspension and meant for stuff like the floop. Your bike isn't that far off from that. Just know your limitations and get on the bike I say. You'll know when/if you get out of line, then just stay in bounds.
@@mikecoulter5243 Thank you for this response. I'm going to try the floop! But I'll take it easy.
This morning was my first MTB ride ever and I rode the Fullerton Loop on a Specialized hardtail. Your GoPro definitely doesn't do those climbs justice. I had to walk up half of them. You made them look so easy! Amazing video - I didn't get lost at all due watching this video 10 times. Love The Outsider content. Stumbling upon one of your videos a month ago inspired me to make the MTB purchase. I remember watching you skate back in the day. We appreciate the videos. Thanks.
That’s awesome Matt! And small world. Welcome to the community!
@@TheOutsiderMTB Thank you brother. I'm not super high on the Specialized Pitch Comp 1X that I purchased. I've convinced my wife to let me get a full suspension. Would you recommend a YT Jeffsy Base or Capra Base? 27.5 of course. Thanks!
If it were me I’d go Capra bit I’m looking for more of the enduro bike these days. Jeffsy is a better climber.
This is the best FL video I have seen. You did a great job of showing most of the important parts. I used to ride it weekly in the 90s back when it wasn’t nearly as smooth. There were two sections you missed that we rode every time but to your credit, there are really an endless amount of variations you could create with so many options. I used to ride it with a group of desert racers that would smoke me on the downhill but this course is so flat I would drop them on the climbs bad enough that they couldn’t catch up. We used to have names for every section. Some of them stuck and we heard others using them. The tree covered area just before you cross Euclid is called Sherwood Forest. There are at least two sections you showed that are new and look great. I have been bikeless for about 5 years. I just turned 50 and am picking up a Specialized Epic Hardtail in 2 days. I have had FL in my crosshairs for many years, always yearning to go back. It is a perfect cross country course well suited for a hardtail. We used to finish it in under an hour with no shortcuts. Hopefully I see you out there when I finally saddle up again. Thanks more this outstanding video covering one of SoCal’s best gems of a ride. Pound for pound it is hard to beat IMO. Cheers.
Hey thanks for the backstory and kind words! I have much newer vids from the loop as well. They probably cover the other sections and one of the newer ones I broke my bars at the jump zone. Cheers!
I've hiked portions of this from time to time. Interesting watching someone bike it.
Beginner here, Been doing the loop every Saturday morning for the past past month, and I’m loving it! I didn’t know about the dam section, will be going thru it this Saturday 💪🏻
Enjoy! But that section is no longer I think.
I watched this video at least once before, and this time through I caught what I did wrong on the trail on Thursday (25 May 2023). I didn't turn right after the green gate😖. I cut off the entire Brea Dam part, just went back down Harbor. I'd ridden all the way up from home in Anaheim, by then I was beat. I will do it right next time. Thanks again for this awesome video. It's a great guide for this trail
Best Floop video I have seen. Keep up the great work. We appreciate your efforts!
Thanks Jason - plenty more to come!
Best Fullerton loop video ever! Great job!
Yay! Thank you!
Watched the video but didn't finish the whole thing, then when my son and I tried it for the 1st time we got lost halfway, lol! Watching it again in its entirety and I already recognize where we strayed off the trail. Thanks for the video, it's really helpful!
Oh no! Glad you came back. I also have more updated vids from the Loop on the channel.
Thanks for this video. Im new to mountain biking and I was intimidated to try this trail until I watched your video. I have ridden it twice now and am super pumped to check out other trails! Thanks again!
That's great - a big reason I started this channel. Stick around if you haven't subscribed already. Plenty more rides coming Buddy!
There's an extra credit climb after the golf course to the left up Panorama Trail. Best view of the ride for sure. Well done video man, keep it up. Subscribed!
Luan Pham Thanks for the heads up I’ll check that out. Appreciate that Luan!
great video. i used to ride that trail all the time years ago its nice to see a vid to jog the memory again.
Happy to provide a little nostalgia. Thanks for watching Chris. :)
Thanks for the upload! i used to bike here every weekend 10years ago. brings back memories!
Glad you enjoyed it
I've been riding the Floop fairly often for about 3 years, I love it! I finally logged 100 Floops on Strava earlier this year. Its my favorite trail ever. I actually rode Floop a few times back in the 80's on a 20" BMX bike, and there used to be a jump line with doubles along the start of the trail by the courthouse lol. All the rain this year added a lot of weeds and ruts, which makes it a bit more challenging. I noticed there are a bunch more little offshoots and jumps now than in your video from 5 years ago.
I’m here at the loop wearing a green fisherman hat and nikes I love this loop trail ..leaving at 1pm ..today is my first time and will not be my last ! Thanks again big dawg!
Thanks for keeping me on track .. btw this my new found hobby 🚴
Have fun!
Thanks for the upload man. I've done the loop several times in the past. I'm gonna take my step son whose 12 to the loop we got him his 1st mtb. He's excited to do it. This guide really helps. Cuz. I probably forgot how to navigate the through the whole thing. Lol 👍🏽
Good stuff - yeah this loop is a maze for sure. Hope you guys have a blast!
I walk the trial 2-3 times a week just got a hardtail Santa Cruz. Can't wait thanks.
Nice Rick!
I did the loop today, awesome fitness trail.
I will try to ride every other week early in the day when its still cool, definitely when the weather cools down.
Be Strong & Shout At The Devil.
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Best Fully Loop video I've seen yet. Great job 🤙🏼
I wish I saw this video before I went out today lol.. got so lost!
It's a tricky one for sure!
Yeah me too. But revisiting this video helps, I can retrace my steps to the point I got lost, then figure it out.
Thank you for showing this trail! I have little kids and this is perfect for them at this point. I hope I can take them on real trails soon, but I'm still researching.
Thank you best video of Fullerton loop. I haven’t ridden that in over 10 years. Good to get reacquainted.
Glad you enjoyed it! I’ve got a bunch more too. This week’s vid is a montage of it right now. Lots of new things.
Thanks for the video. I rode The Loop for the first time a few weeks ago. Your video made it super easy to navigate the route. If you're a beginner, or getting back into riding like I am, this is a great trail to learn/relearn basic MTBing skills.
Glad the video was helpful!
Awesome video man, I just bought my first MTB at the Fullerton Bike Shop and they recommended this trail. It's definitely going to help me on my first time!
Great people over there. Check out my other fullerton vid as well. “Stuff you should know” has more info. 👌
Thats one of the best bike shops in north OC
This video is great. It helped me finally complete the loop. The only thing if I may add is one thing. When you pass the golf course and you get to the tunnels you have to take the left one. I kept taking the right and it would take me to the ymca and it was a dead end. Until my friend told me to take the left tunnel and finally finished. But great video and it helped me finish
Thanks for the feedback and glad this vid helped you out in the trail. Stay tuned for tomorrow as my next vid dives deeper into the secrets of this loop. 👍🏼✔️
👍Thanks for making this. Gonna ride it tomorrow for my first time in about 8 years and second time overall. I couldn't remember the route so this is really helpful. Thanks again!
Good stuff Matt!
Nice video! I've been thinking about doing it on my gravel bike for a while and seeing your video I know it's definitely rideable on a gravel bike. I plan to be out there Saturday. Thanks.
Have fun - I’d say your right!
Just did this loop for the first time this weekend. 2nd time ever out and I loved it, Kicked my butt, but a lot of fun.
Rode it yesterday at noon after morning rain, and it was great..... we just didn’t go left over the bridge. Way too muddy by the tracks. Took main trail straight back to court house.
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Gotta practice riding the rail!
I haven’t been there in years. So much has changed. Thx.
Check out my most recent fullerton ride with some bonus stuff. Thanks! 👌🏼
My backyard! Great coverage. - Luis
Thx!
If youre lost, just ask a rider if you can tag along. We have certainly had some people follow us and teach them the trail.
I love the loop as you can ride it and still be really close to home. Also a workout and you can work on your time. I ride it sometimes with my cx bike.
Great point - one of the first times I rode here I had someone direct me for a bit as well. Perfect local loop to get some pedal time in. Thanks for tuning in!
Hi, great video, been in the loop 3 times now. I have not been to that trail you took halfway to the video. I may have to look that up.
Thanks Julius! Check my strava for that trail. It's on the left when you're about halfway down just into the trees. ;)
Man i haven't ridden that in almost a decade. bring back great memories. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it has so much history. 👌
Thanks for this, bro. It was fun reliving this ride, which I did for the first time yesterday. I probably wouldn't take advantage of all the "extra credit" bonuses you took, but it's cool to see all the ones I missed. Two things: 1) I managed to stay on the trail using the map in MTB Project all the way until I got to the two tunnels before the dam. Now I find out that I should have taken the left tunnel instead of the right one. Still managed to find my way back to the courthouse, but it looks like I missed out on a fun section of trail. 2) Not sure if they were built after you filmed this, but there a couple of really cool jumps right before the golf course. I didn't have the huevos to try them, but two other riders took them full throttle and amazed a giant family of hikers who happened to walking along the trail to the right. Next time I might have to try the jumps!
Awesome 👍
Back- at - it -today …this is my third time and hopefully I complete it without getting lost..wish me luck fam! 🚴💨
Btw …I feel confident that I know the map and my way around the loop now more less …thanks to the -outsider !👍🙏🏽💪🏽🚴
3rd x’s a charm 👌
Thank you very much for putting this video together. The visual references and landmarks are so helpful when riding the trail for the first time. I went for the first time in June and had a blast even if I did miss a lot of the east side of the loop. I've been determined to figure out the loop without the aid of GPS.
I have a suggestion if you plan to do more trail guide videos. Please avoid making short cuts when editing. Instead, either leave the footage rolling or maybe fast forward a bit. One example is the green gate at the end of Laguna Lake Trail. You point out the gate, cut the footage, and then say to make a sharp right. With the discontinuity from the cut, it's confusing where the sharp right is relative to the green gate. I assumed the cut was needed because it was further down the trail. I started my ride at Laguna Lake and missed the very first turn, haha.
Another type of landmark that might be helpful is the "if you see this, you missed the turn and went too far" but that gets to be a lot of extra information.
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. I have another Fullerton Loop vid with some extra bonus knowledge and areas too, as well as a dozens more trail guides. Might be useful to check out for more riding options. ✔️😉
I've done this loop twice and missed some turns both times. Still had fun.
The more you do it the more it stays with you. Thanks for tuning in David.
You definitely helped ..brought my map to life indeed !!!
Sweet!
That looks like a fun loop to get the legs back in shape. Keep the vids coming
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The other day on that one way only section I had to jump a snake that was crossing! Definitely scared the crap out of me!
I’ve had many days of that happening too. Haha!
I'm about to hit the loops today ! Let's get it ! 🤙🏼🛩️🚵💯
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awesome Video. will definitely use it as a guide next time I venture out there...
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We need to link up and ride. Great videos bud!
Thank you!!!
Looks like a fun ride, its on my "to ride list" for this month.
Hope I don't get to lost :)
Great video man! New to MTB and I’m stoked to try then loop this Sunday 😅😬
Get it!! Thanks for being a part of the channel! ✔️😉
My first wreck was at 4:07 on this "punchy climb" which is in reality, really steep!! I got halfway up and stopped but because of the steepness, I started rolling backwards and went in hard into the bushes! At 7:46, I just lost it here because I came down with too much speed. There was a bump my rear wheel hit that because my tires were so inflated, bounced me off and over the edge here. And then at 14:17, I lost my nerve once i was committed to coming down that steep drop, which looks so small on this video!! Anyhow, I landed it, but I over pumped my rear break to turn right and I slid because of my tire pressure and lose, dry dirt. I fell derailleur side , too, so I was sure I had ruined it, but I forgot I was riding an MTB and it was fine. The rest of this fast section at 14:21, while it looks fun (and it is), is really bumpy with mini-jumps you don't see, so if you get too much speed, DO NOT USE your front brakes to slow you down. And if you have a hardtail, drop your seat and hold on, as this is one bumpy ride, but a blast!! This is the one section I wanted to go back up to do again!
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Ran this awesome loop today! I might be crazy but I'm like 85% sure I saw you at the lake and didn't immediately recognize you...was bugging me for the rest of the loop haha
Haha not today. 😉
I've ridden the loop a few times now. I've never exited the Brea Dam Park area the same way twice.
On Friday, I took a way that led me on to Elks Hill Way which goes to Brea blvd and the softball fields.
Yup - so many different options on this one for sure.
Thank you Tony. Noobie here and am going to try this trail Monday.
Awesome - Enjoy it Anthony! I also have a more secent vid from this loop with even more info.
Rode this trail today and so thankful you did this video. I had to reference it a few times 🤣🤙🏼
Haha sweet! It’s a maze for sure.
I kinda fell off the trail twice on the faster portion but it was still fun. Luckily I only got a couple scratches on my palm
I fish at the Laguna Lake n I always see the bikes pass by. It looked cool so I wanted to try it, I just recently bought a bike n can't wait to ride the Fullerton Loop.. Tnx for the video!!
Sweet! Hit me back with any questions and welcome to the Mtb community!
@@TheOutsiderMTB thank you
Thanks for this video, great trail and learned some new stuff
Awesome Alex.
Thanks for the video. I'm a beginner MTB rider that lives in Fullerton and have been trying a few sections of the loop. I was super confused on where certain sections connected. I think I have a pretty good idea now. 👍
Awesome - glad you found the vid helpful and thanks for watching!
Good stuff here Tony. I grew up in Fullerton and that is a really confusing loop to say the least.
Appreciate that Brandon. Seems to be helpful to a lot of people so I’m happy about that. I’m doing a part 2 this month with some
Bonus stuff so stay tuned. 😉
@@TheOutsiderMTB look forward to it. I live in RSM now for the last 20 years so I'm in the middle of mtb land. Would love to hook up ride someday. Go back to the luge and conquer it
Awesome - good stuff. Oh and The Luge - on it!
the pandemic has changed this loop so much... soo busy now lol
So true. I hadn't ridden here in a loooonng time but I stumbled across Outsider MTB's channel and it really inspired me to get back to some of these trails that I hadn't ridden in ages. I went on a Saturday last week at about 9:00AM, haha, probably THE WORST possible time even in non-pandemic times! Anyway, throughout the entire loop, the place was grand central station, cavalcades of bikers, hikers, runners, kids, strollers, you name it! The good news was, I could just follow the masses and figure out the directions very easily. I went back today at the crack of dawn and it was much more manageable, and I knew exactly where I was going.
Bigtime! Watching the video all I could think of is, where is everybody? It’s packed nowadays!
@@donaldduck4867 thought the same thing when he first showed the parking lot, checked the upload date and then it all made sense.
Summer 2021 Update** - Loop is back to pre covid now.
Don’t underestimate 7:20 side feature. It’s on the side of a cliff side and the verms are sandy
Button pusher. Lol. Love your videos. Live off of Gilbert and just started mountain biking again. This is a good trail to stay warm
Thanks James! Just did this one last night - my local ride. Check out the updated version too with some bonus riding options.
The Outsider MTB I used to do this twice. Not anymore. Lol. I’ll get it again though. I’m heading over there in about half an hour
Haha 👌
Thanks Tony, great video. I've been itchin to try MTB and you inspired me to give it a try at the Fullerton loop.
Great tips from you and a downloaded map I still made a couple of wrong turns but quickly back on track. My Trek Dual Sport3
did good but a real MTB would be much better here. Thought I was in really decent shape until I met the climbs and then a few more climbs, kicked my butt!
Nice Doug - welcome to the community and love hearing that.
I have always heard of the Fullerton Loop but never got around to try it. I go mountain biking to get away from the city.
I am glad I saw this video, now I know I dont want to try the Loop.
Just hit this trail today, Used this video the whole time to keep figuring out where to go (went solo)
Video def helped, but it has a lot of differences than the ride above.
@10:24 Terrain is either overgrown/all broken up so a lot of whats shown above isnt quite accessable anymore
@13:00 there are about 4-5 "speedbumps" that have been put on this hill. So you are flying down and just these sudden bumps out of no where, maybe 10-20 feet apart, with the biggest one near the bottom maybe 20 feet from the curb,
@14:00 all the drops have basically given away, my new ass wasnt gonna try that lol but in the video it looks so much different
@15:15 again there are 2 "speed bumps" at the end, literally before the slight turn. No idea why they were put in but yea that much speed and those bumps scared me good
@19:50 someone came thru and built some jumps (that you can avoid) and 1 jump goes into a big burm. I took that but there was a rando golfer chilling on the road! lucky I didnt hit him lol
@20:21 once you exit the tunnel, it almost looks nothing like the video. No gate, theres a river now! You go up the hill and its multi direction. My phone died here and I pull up to a spot with 5 different Directions to go! lol
Besides those points, rest is spot on and I still had the jist of the trail. Def hard to do as a solo first time, just due to directions.Video still really helped!
Good stuff Philip and thanks for all of the updates!
The berms are really fun on the main trail. But the single track through the little woody sections is way steeper then it looks, there was a massive GoPro effect on the single track.
Nice video Tony. Fullerton Loop is almost my patio, you have skipped two little technical sections at the Dam before take Harbor Blvd
Thanks for the heads up Argento. I'll look into those trails for sure!
Just picked up my mtb and im from the area so im hitting this on Saturday so this was definitely a lot of help! 👍🏻
Awesome - make sure to check out my new fullerton Loop “Stuff you should know” vid as well. Get to some more of the good bits. 😉
The Outsider MTB aha you know what i actually watched that one first and watched this one right after but im excited man! Seen a few of your other videos and cant wait to hit more trails!
@@crisgarcia6564 you still hitting the trails man?
Jordy Murillo shit not no more man i was going a lot but i stopped hitting fullerton a while
Thanks for sharing! First time today and got off track. Haha
Takes a couple spins for sure!
Thanks for the video. Great visualization of the trail. I got lost twice but now I am sure I will complete it next time. 👌🏼
Happy to hear this is going to help. Having the visuals really helps. Appreciate you watching!
Great video, super helpful! Will head out there today :)
Hope you enjoy it!
I rode it today, it was tough... I'm out shape 😂😂 But lots of fun.
Great job!
Another amazing video.
Thanks Richard!
looks so fun
I hit rosecrans single track section for the first time today and it was a very sloppy ride…i need to be better with managing turns accompanied with speed…I have been going to this loop for numerous time now since aug and my dh progression I say is around 45% since I started. Uphill climbs is more than decent because working out is my priority but man….this single track is something i really need to get better with.
At the horse trail you could go straight but it’s longer and harder but still fun
Hey Outsider! Rode Fullerton for the first time last week after your review, was a huge help with navigation. Thanks. I had an 11 year old who struggled a bit with the elevation. Are you able to make a video that could taylor the course for an easier ride? Also, what equipment setup did you use to record the review?
Glad to hear it! I use a hero 8 with a chesty harness. Don’t think I’m going to make another fullerton vid - I think there are about 6 in the library. 👍✔️
If you look at the map of the trial it’s pretty easy to cut parts out if you’re looking to do less climbs or a just a quicker ride in general! Most of the streets you cross you end up crossing back over at some point so you can skip whatever you want easily if you’re not ready for the whole thing! Happy riding!
Thanks for the vid, this should help me.
No problem 👍
Love that trail thanks
The best!
Thank you for a great video!!!!!
You are so welcome!
Man that was one hell of a workout thanks again !!! Made the ride today 👍
What you think about trek Marlin 6 model 2022… how strong is for trails??? I have that bike tomorrow is gonna be the first time used let’s see how good is for trails
How was ur experience? I'm planning to go there soon with that same exact bike
So when you take the other tunnel after the golf course, the right one instead of the left one, you soon come to a network of jumps (large tabletops, gaps, etc.) that looks very tempting, but probably way beyond my skill set, lol. Not yours, though! It would be the perfect place to have a coach conduct some jump clinics and get people to overcome their jumping fears.
Check out some more recent fullrton loop vids. I broke my handle bars back there. 👀
@@TheOutsiderMTB Whoa, I'll have to watch that one. I watched the two main Fullerton Loop ones that you did (this one here and stuff you should know) which were extremely helpful! I could have sworn I watched another one where you broke your bars as well, maybe it was a Laguna one?
I did that at Laguna too haha. Check out the green trails that turn black vid. It’s a two parter. 😉✔️
Awesome. I need to hit this trail up once I get another bike. Looks very confusing, what’s an easy way to navigate first time alone? Phone mount to look at coordinates?? Been awhile since I’ve owned a mountain bike. Starting to get the dad bod due to Covid laziness so I need to get some cardio and get back into riding again. Just not sure what bike to look into that’s not insane priced, mainly this type of riding but something the shocks can handle my fat butt. Lol. Budget is prob up to 2500
I use the app and follow along. Good luck!
What bike do you have this video?? For that trail I think Marlin 6 is good… but crazy trail trek full suspension bike for sure…
IT was a YT Jeffsy
Super useful video !
Thanks Luis check out the new version on Stuff You Should Know - Fullerton Loop.
The Outsider MTB I will ! Just subbed great content
Welcome!
Used to ride this trail 2 or 3 times a week. Haven’t been on it in over 10 years. Only ride road bikes now. Want to go back but feel intimidated lol. Brings back good memories. Are Thursday night rides still a thing?
Get at it man - not sure but there's always group rides I see out there.
I just wanna meet Pip! Is that wrong? LoL!! Jk, jk... Would love to tag along next time you feel like doing The Loop. I try to ride it every week after work. I've definitely missed a lot of the Brea Dam sections, until seeing your 2nd video on the Loop. Never knew that stuff was there!
Pip’s the best! Yeah it’s a bit off the beat and path. You have to really be looking for it or you won’t find it. ✔️
21:03 the moment i fell jaajajaja at the very end of the trail jajjajaa
Thank you
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I did the loop today. Oh man did I get lost 😂
Haha it's a maze for sure.
It is easy. Now do it timed and let us know your best. It is an excellent XC training loop for your lungs and legs. Especially 2 or 3 laps of it.
In the tunnels there is a bunch of ramps it’s cool I have so clips that my TikTok
Yup.
This trail looks so cool! But I was wondering how long does it take to complete?
Depends 0 about an hour and a halfish.
@@TheOutsiderMTB Thank you
I recently picked up a pair of chonky (for me) 2.2 inch tires for my gravel bike and solo rode the floop as my first foray into mountain biking. On a fully rigid drop bar bike, it was very fun, very challenging, and a hell of a learning experience. Are there any other trails in LA/OC that you'd recommend for me and my rig? I feel like the blue trails on mtb project err on the side of having more squish underneath the rider and I'd learn more technique on the bike than recovering my rattled meat vehicle
I'd have a look around my video library and see if you find something in your preference. Maybe Marshall Canyon?
I plan to ride this with my 10 yr old son. are there any spots that is double track so that we can turn around/back track if he gets tired? or any spot to exit the loop? thanks.
Tons of spots to exit but you have to ride back in the road. It’s a maze to be honest. Good luck!
peters canyon is pretty mellow too
I use to ride the loop, I was wondering did they remove 4-board climb?
Not sure what that is you're referring to.
@@TheOutsiderMTB four boards hill climb is next to the oil fields. It’s a left hand turn sandy bottom with 4 railroad boards you go over about a quarter the way up it should be the steepest incline on the whole course
How fast were you going when you said" just let off your breaks and open it up" also what kind of dinosaur did you see at Laguna lake. Great video by the way.
Haha thanks! He just popped his head up, so it was a tough one to get specific on. On the speed - no idea. Comfortable fast I'd say. Thanks for watching skydog.
I usually get up to 30 mph there
really cool video! Are you on Strava? I'd like to see the route you just did. Or can you point me in the right direction of the loop? I've been out to the loop a few times, but it's been kind of discouraging for me. I don't know all the ins and outs. And it's frustrating. LOL
I live in Anaheim. Maybe we can meet up and you can show me? But having the route you just did would really help out. thanks!!
All the info including the Strava should be below the vid.
There’s a new updated version as well. Thanks for tuning in Charles!
@@TheOutsiderMTB Hi. I don't see any info for strava on the video, just hashtags. HOWEVER, I did find you on STRavA. I got the route.. You have helped immensely!!!!
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13:22 Is that a magic button?
You've gotta have the touch Cameron. 😉
This trail is quite rough for my gravel bike, is there an easier path that has less downhill? Also, is there any long distance gravel bike path in the area?
I don’t gravel bike so I’m not going to be much help in that one. Sorry.