Ferrari F12 TDF vs Ferrari 812 Superfast
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- How does the Ferrari 812 Superfast compare against the Ferrari F12 TDF? Find out in this head to head review of Ferrari's best V12 Super GT's
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British accent.
Weird glasses.
Screaming v12.
Evil laugh at 3.55.
Mr Jww as a name.
Equals perfect James bond villain.
evil laugh at 13:55
But he doesn’t drive a jaguar 🤔
@@I_can_hear_you_not jaguar?
Timothy Hutton a James Bond villain always drives Jaguar
@@I_can_hear_you_not hahaha I was thinking James bond mostly rolls in an Aston Martin. I had to Google it. Xenia onatopp drove a 355 if that counts hahaha
The most complete video on TDF and 812 I've yet seen. Brilliant James......👍👏👏👏
Here here
15:26 trying to fool the authorities?
There's such a disconnect between hearing the engine rev and seeing the RPM counter steady at 3000.
I think he did it so he didnt show his speedo
I’m with u mate ;) sounds great though!
Jack C yeah I get that but he should just blur the speed so we can still see the revs and body movements etc
Yep.. It wise for someone who makes a living driving and caring for supercars to not self incriminate by showing reckless speeds while moving about the the Queen's island.
@@TRICKZzHD1 No shit Sherlock!
I love celebrating these v12’s while they last
I love both, but honestly I would happily pay the extra 500,000 quid for an F12 TDF. It just looks and sounds like a proper, outrageous, lunatic of a car. Ferrari at their absolute best.
@aaron names Limited edition V12 Ferrari's are often the most desirable. Plus a lot of people who were lucky enough to get TDF's originally dont put too many miles on them, knowing a low miliage car will be highly sought after. Kind of annoying considering these things are built to be driven. Ferrari really need to pick their clients better to stop this shit from happening.
@aaron names not only do nearly all rare cars gain in value (especially limited edition ferraris), but i think that you had to own like 5 other ferraris to even be able to buy the tdf, meaning only a couple of people could actually buy it, only after that you add the 450k, which is the price of the car
i think it was something like this maybe a car more or less, feel free to correct me if im wrong
@Ranin Zadviylet They have free maintenence for the first 7 years so that's a non-factor. They should make more examples of their LE cars though which would probably encourage more people to drive them and not just store them in a garage to make money on them.
Looking at the prices there so many at 1,5 nowadays. Crazy what a profit James can make with his.
@@SS-bk2zb Where are you seeing those prices?
I just did a quick search and 16 out of the 17 tdf's I could find for sale in Europe have asking prices between €800k-1mil, and that includes a couple of RHD cars. The prices have come down in 2019 and as James has a very "standard" spec I doubt he would make any profit at all if he sold his car today.
I love that the TDF pushes you back and forth at every gear change. Must be pure adrenaline
It's not a good thing. It feels artificial and it basically seems like the car can't change gears. Here's a secret. Many TdF owners have had a TCU update done that makes the car much better in this regard. A big issue is that it actually upsets the car tremendously and brings it out of balance.
Can feel the increase in intake noise from the tdf through my phone vibrating 😍 another video smashed out the park James!
I think I got the same glasses, I use them when there is an eclipse ;)
Or welding...
If you like to look ridiculous in your sunglasses look no further, these make you look like a total c*ck...
Aljaz Bolta stfu bitch
what are their names?
Finally 4k! Thank you James, outstanding content whit the proper resolution.
m8 your presentation skills have really stepped up over the past year. Fantastic video.
The interior on the 812 OMG the combination of colors is amazing even though is the more tradicional spec it looks awesome
£100k in options is without the TailorMade guys going berserk?
Yes.
Awesome review & comparison Mr JWW. Thanks for talking to us like we were right there with you. Your technical expertise & vocab is second to none love your work!
Great vid JWW! Thank you for all the facts and data! Always enjoying your content.
And your leg!!!!, awesome effort James loved watching every second, so much detail, keep it up!!!
If the price differential wasn’t so great and it was predominantly a track or short Sunday driver then the TdF. However in the real world as a GT with the odd track day then 812 all the way.
Thank you James for another outstanding video! Also thanks for having another glorious Ferrari V12 video! I love hearing those engines!
As always, amazing content. Keeps on getting better.
Another awesome video James! Keep it up mate..
Any of them ❤ be honest i will be the happiest person on earth with a "stock" F12 Berlinetta.
Your content is just unreal! Keep going, James! enjoying every video 👌
WOW! 😲
Perhaps the Best 'Back to Back' comparison of these two cars there's ever been!
The knowledge and driving skill is superb,
And the cinematography of the filming is beyond awesome! 🙂
This is more like a TV show now James than a TH-cam video,
To say you're upping the game, is an understatement 😉
Fantastic stuff 🙂
For me, the FT blows the 'Superfast' out of the water,
Both in Looks & Sound 🙂
But most importantly the driving pleasure and poise 🙂
I'd say you're a lucky guy,
But you sir, definitely deserve all the best from this world 🙂
Thank you for doing such awesome content for us,
And taking the time with the amazing editing 🙂
Keep up the great work 🙂👍
All the best,
Mark 👍
Such an awesome video comparing two great cars! I love your TDF way more than the Superfast! Well done on the best comparison video there will be of these two cars.
I'm glad the 2 cars had different colour interiors otherwise that would of got confusing 😅
'Would have gotten'.... how in the hell do people come up with mistakes like this?
@@SA-rz6fj I see it daily. Especially with brits. Of/have can't be so difficult to get right, but I guess not. Such an eyesore frankly.
Great video mate ! Cheers 👍
Another brilliant one!!!!!!
Great job James.
Keep it up!
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Thank you James! I was waiting for that match.
Antoine Gresland
Same
Great video! The TDF is the best modern day GT car ever. In yellow, black interior and chrome wheels; it gets no better, period. The only good looking yellow car ever made and probably the best color for a TDF.
You’re a real journalist!!!
Great idea to compare those both sisters
Amazing cars the TDF stay have my preference
I like your LGR sunglasses 😎
Brilliant vid... Superb editing and presentation , this is up there with tv shows like Top Gear!!
Great video James. Best of both worlds there. Your TDF is Special! Well done 👍
Great review James, love both of these mechanical engineering masterpieces.
WHAT a video James! Chapeau! So much fun to watch! Just keep going on this way!
Another great video James. Glad to see you getting the TDF out👍👍👍
Nice video review. Fantastic job well done
Another great video James, keep them coming mate. Have you given any thought of possibly doing a review of your Porsche Macan? I think you would give us viewers a proper look into that cars performance on a daily basis. All the best to you and your young family! Ed.
Amazing stuff, thanks for sharing as always
Really great and informative take on the two cars. Thanks!
This is the best way of start your morning.... watching a Jww video of the TDF.
I Excellent comparison review James
Loved it as one of my all time favourites .
can't wait to see a road trip with the Conti GT looking forward to that one .
Excellent keep it up man
Thanks for putting this together. Great content.
Felt like I was actually driving them. LOVE your channel. Awesome how you've retained your modesty unlike some TH-camrs and appreciate £250k is 'serious coin'.
Interior-wise; 812 in that spec or TDF?
Also 720s or TDF?
Such amazing content and knowledge. 👍🏻
Damn! Speachless... Just amazing content again 🤯
I'd take the TDF out of the two also....for the 'special-ness' that you mention. I think the rear view of the 812 is superb but the front end is not good.
Keep up the top drawer video's.
Cheers, Chris
I've been following you since your first video..... You're still the best
Awesome vid. Would love either of those cars tbh. Great back to back 😁🤘
TY for the Excellent and enjoyable Video
Mr JWW Now I see what you mean when you say the relationship between the engine and gearbox is ...SUBLIME!!!. It is next level that thing.
Really enjoyed this. Thanks James.
Thank you for this video. We all needed to watch these two together. Now let me point to your final verdict. I find it...100% true.
Absolutely brilliant mate! TDF certainly a ‘modern classic’ which is most certainly a gross understatement. Kudos to you James 👍🏼👌🏼
Such a thorough review! Thank you. :-)
Awesome comparison. I've been waiting for that one.
Loving the aggressive and deep engine note of the F12tdf! And it's the first modern Ferrari I REALLY like since 458 Italia (which I'm starting to appreciate...ten years later, I know).
Lovely video! 😊
Awsome back to back comparisons
Dude. Great video. Subbed.
Great video!!
Loving the video James, but even more so those sunnies you're rocking. Which brand are they?
He mentioned them in a video a while ago, pretty sure they're a brand called Thom Browne 👍
One of your best vids man
I’ve been waiting for something like this! Thanks, now I know which car is cooler
This is going to be epic James 😍
TDF is unreal! Great video!
Thanks for the amazing video here J, this felt much shorter than 20 minutes because I was so enthralled all the way through.
P.S. I see a lot of people commenting on the 3k rpm footage while J was giving an example of the high revs of the tdf. My opinions on this (copied from a reply I left) are simple.
He didn't have a go pro camera on hand while he did that huge pull. You may notice he randomly does pulls according to how clear the road is of other vehicles etc. That spontaneous opportunity grab on public roads would get in the way of any basic filming plan he might've had. I agree it is jarring and he didn't need to edit in a speedometer "Just Cuz" revvss, but I don't believe he's trying to sell anyone anything here. I'm sure the majority of his viewers can't afford anything near a Ferrari and thus he "carries us along the journey" (as he always says) for the sake of giving us a peek into a life dissimilar to ours.
Where can I buy similar welding goggles?
I believe his sunglasses are Gucci
They look fairly similar to the Julbo Vermont Sunglasses that Jamie wears in Mythbusters.
Thom Browne and they are expensive....
hahahahaha
As they say prices can go down as well as up. In 1988/9 classic and supercar prices took a huge dive when economic factors dried up sales - these cycles always come round again.
13:57 James Evil Laugh
F12 is so much better looking and you seem to have more fun in the F12.
Great video James! For me, the TDF :)
I remember when just the normal f12 came out I about lost my mind and when the tdf came out I cried and now with the 812 I'm just a mess the three v12s wow great video sir
Your videos are far the best on TH-cam, nobody comes close to u.
Ah, the V12 symphony. Che Bella Machina. I got a ride in the neighbours Jaguar XJ with 12 cylinders in the 1970s. It did not sound like the Ferrari, but boy she pulled away fast! A rare experience.
I think you could really use an investment in a quality lavaliere mic--it will solve the problem of your voice being too washed out by the road and wind noise (as it is right now), and you can still use the DSLR mic for the engine sound.
What I love about this guy is that I feel he understands the viewer can’t feel the experience of either car. So he describes things very well and he his very genuine, doesn’t try hard , he loves sports cars. Very good energy. Not to be negative but a lot of guys just get on a straight, hit the gas and start yelling how fast it is for every car and really dnt explain the character and feel of the car.
Great watch and very informative. Always at your best IMO when expressing your Ferrari ownership experiences. TDF for me. All day long.
Very interesting comparison between the TDF and the Superfast James. One thing I don't understand though is why the tach was showing 4k or less when you were pushing the car to the 9k redline. Did you have to edit that in rather than capture it at the same time?
Great video with the switch between a cars
@9:10 You can see how much respect he has for Chris Harris when he takes off the sun glasses to make an apologize. That shows the character of a man 👏👏👏
Very good review Mr JWW.!! Ferrari really hit the right notes when building these 2 road monsters.!! Why are your steering wheels on the wrong side??? LOL
Excellent side by side comparison of two of the most extreme beauties to date.
Who on planet earth, dislikes this sorta eargasmic stuff. It's brilliant!
The F12 still looks better in my opinion.
812 = SuperUgly
Can I ask you a Question, I Just received a New issue of Car and Driver while looking through it I came across a Photo of the 2022 Ferrari Purosangue their SUV. What's your thoughts on it should Ferrari have an SUV or should they stick with GT's, Supercars, Hypercars? The article say's it won't have a V12 most likely have a V8 with Hybrid assistance.
Nice editing on that acceleration. Keeping it within the speed limit ;)
You just smash it out the park every time!!! Bonkers.
most anticipated comparison of this century
Did you get a custom pvd buckle for your watch?
Awesome Vid!! Hope that road at 7:48 was one way man!! Talk about narrow!! 🤣🤣
Its 2 ways.
TDF looks and sounds better than Superfast...
mgrath01
Both sound awesome. I also prefer the F12tdf. Ferrari’s V12 engines in the F12berlinetta, 812 Superfast, F12tdf, LaFerrari and LaFerrari FXXK are the best sounding V12 engines in my opinion.
I think my honda looks better...
Ben Mackay yea
Ben Mackay nah I'm just joking I don't own a honda I just made this comment because I don't like how everyone always likes the older cars
Fantastic video. 👌 Star quality.
Simply awesome comparison.
Awesome! This is like comparing an F8 with a Pista.
TDF...super car and a super video presentation. Met a local guy at Meridien Modena with a dark blue version with heritage strip...its such a beautiful car...thanks for sharing your experience with these two cars...I'm working on upgrading my California t !
He is basically describing what I feel in my regular F12; I can only imagine how much more magnificent the TDF is.
A very interesting and quality video as usual. Both nice cars but honestly, whilst both of them, like many other so-called Supercars, are undeniably amazing examples of technical brilliance and works of automotive art, they are all becoming a bit like a Fabergé egg. Beautiful to look at but without purpose. These cars look fantastic and must be luscious to sit in and ride in but they have so much horsepower that can't actually be used on normal roads. You accelerated for about three seconds and then had to back off because you had reached the speed limit. So the question is, are multiple bursts of 3 seconds of excitement really worth £300,000 plus? I guess so if money is no object but for mere mortals Ferrari (and quite a few other brands) have ceased to become aspirational in a practical sense. Hence the rise in modern classics and more practical sports cars. Just my POV.😀
@mrjww I wanted to see again the video of the first drive of your second 458 Speciale, but in Canada, we can’t see it anymore... could you put the link in the response of this comment please?!
I don't like to correct people but I thought you may be interested as I also used to make this mistake. Compression ratio doesn't affect engine braking as a higher compression ratio would also mean higher expansion when the piston is on the way down, so they balance each other out. For example diesels can have crazy high compression ratios without a lot of engine braking. Engine braking is cause by pumping loses, as the piston goes down it creates a vacuum between the piston head and the closed throttle body which causes the engine braking. Diesel engines don't have throttle bodies so engineers have to overcome this challenge, one method is the Jake Brake.
May I ask what brand of side shield sunglasses are you wearing?
What a great way to wake up . F12 is my number 1 dream car . Cheers