Both books: Wisdom of Solomon and Wisdom of Sirach are canonical books in Eastern Orthodox Church - the one that brought forth and produced the Bible canon.
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@@winterxmm No need to watch them. Neither of two books I mentioned is apocrypha... they are canonical books. Book of Enoch is neither in the canon nor in apocrypha. Since The Holy Eastern Orthodox Church produced Bible canon, what you are doing is in effect - trying to teach your own father how kids are conceived.
@@johnnyd2383 ?? I don't fully understand what you're trying to say but, I don't watch these videos at all. I'm trying to inform people about these books not being accepted into the Protestant Bible for a reason because it isn't very reliable and some of these books Apocrypha or not are considered to be psedudepigrapha. Then, these books may have some similarities compared to the Protestant Bible but there's also some inconsistencies in some of these books (I don't know about every single book because there is a lot to touch on) but because of the inconsistencies the extra books have are not in the Protestant Bible, because they are not inspired by God like scripture in the Protestant Bible. Hopefully you seen most of the videos and if you still don't believe me take it to God and he will reveal to you the truth. God bless❤
@@winterxmm Here are few lines from the historical point of view... 2000 years ago there were in existence Old Testament books and their translation into Greek language known as Septuagint. The Church took them and put them into a canon of Christian Bible. Then Jews reduced their canon for the main reason being the fact that some books too clearly were pointing to the Jesus Christ being a Messiah. Some didn't but they removed them in order to cover their tracks... 1000 years later, Martin Luther was compiling his own Bible canon and used Jewish reduced canon while The Church retained it's original canon based on Septuagint. Those books are still in Eastern Orthodox Church Bible canonical books while in Protestant Bible they aren't. Our Protestant brethren are ripped off of some books that are in The Church still in use. Hope this clarifies it... Peace.!
To the Protestant evangelizer in this comment, I hope that you do lead some people to Jesus Christ in spite of your gross ignorance of History. Insofar as you preach Jesus Christ crucified, dead, and Resurrected, you do preach the gospel. Insofar as you preach baptism as the means of entrance into the Christian Life, you do well. Insofar as you preach the gospel as the word of God, useful for instruction and teaching, I applaud you. But I do not even think you understand what it means to be a Protestant. Or an Evangelical. I'm sure you look up to Martin Luther. Yet how very little you know what he talked or believed. You would do well to see what confessional Lutheran churches believe to understand your own position as a Christian. Confessional Lutherans are vehemently Protestant. Martin Luther invented the five Solas you probably claim to believe. And the Canon of scripture you have came from Martin Luther. You ought to learn from him. And when you do, you will also realize that they do respect the Virgin Mary, all of the Saints. They believe in sacraments, not ordinances, which really convey Grace not by my actions but because God works through them. And faith alone means God gives you faith, not you declaring faith. Ask any confessional Lutheran pastor about these things and you will find that is indeed what Lutherans practice. And if the most Protestants of Protestants practice sacraments and the veneration of the Saints and the reading of the Church Fathers and books that you consider to be worthless dreck... Perhaps your Gospel is not as deep as it needs to be, even though it is a good starting place.
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Thank you. It speaks to those belonging to the kingdom, we glean much, it describes our dispositions as seekers of truth/wisdom above human wisdom is the fruit of holy-spirit, galatians 5,22,23 describes the 7 fruits of the holy-spirit given to those prophesying, declaring truth in the last days. Joel 2: 28,29
Beautiful! Thank you so very much. This is my introduction to Sirach and most inspiring for the humanitarian works which are now in the planning stages. God bless you!
"Ecclesiasticus" for older folks. It was included in the Septuagint version of Scriptures long before the Masoretic translation (which was a corrupted Hebrew version), The "Septuagint ", was read and recognized as Scripture in Jesus' time as well as the Early Church Fathers. "The Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures called the Septuagint did include Ecclesiasticus, making it popular among Greek-speaking Jews in Egypt." "Ecclesiasticus was originally written in Hebrew though it also existed in Greek after being translated in Egypt by the author's grandson Joshua. It is believed Shimon was living in Alexandria, Egypt, where he had started a Jewish school, at the time of the book's compilation. " The Septuagint is the version of the Old Testament that has the most prophecies about Jesus Christ. The Masoretic translation corrupted many of those prophecies about Jesus or just removed them.
I so enjoyed listening to this was fantastic 💖🌿💖 As for the argument I have to say It's about being obedient, to our Lord and master our creator)💞👑🦁🪨🎁🔥🎶🎷 The most high said his children would transgress his his times and laws" However I pray they stop using Jesus as the excuse for their transgressions.
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@@winterxmm Because you replied with such kindness and grace, I watched the videos you suggested. There is much I could reply to there. No doubt the arguments presented are well thought out, but I cannot agree. There are always difficulties in texts. The canonized Bible has many places where we all stop and do research to fully understand a passage so that it can be understood as harmonizing with the rest of the text. So too these apocrypha have such passages. Yet there is much in them that rings so true. I think everyone needs to stop and ask themselves why they accept certain books and not others. Is it because the Catholic church said so? Is it because some publisher decided they could make more money by publishing a smaller volume that didn't include books that trace their canonicity to before Christ and the writing of the Septuagint and probably well before that? If we are saying that what God spoke in scripture, which simply means writings, shall not be heard and we are saying it for frivolous reasons, woe to that person.
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This should be titled "the Wisdom of Solomon," not Sirach. The book of Sirach is a completely different book (and better, IMO), also known as Ecclesiasticus.
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@@badgerlordpatrick6493 Are you asking me why or other dude? If you are asking me then I dont understand the question. If you mean why is it not the wisdom of Sirach, then, look up the wisdom of Solomon. This is that.
Both books: Wisdom of Solomon and Wisdom of Sirach are canonical books in Eastern Orthodox Church - the one that brought forth and produced the Bible canon.
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@@winterxmm No need to watch them. Neither of two books I mentioned is apocrypha... they are canonical books. Book of Enoch is neither in the canon nor in apocrypha. Since The Holy Eastern Orthodox Church produced Bible canon, what you are doing is in effect - trying to teach your own father how kids are conceived.
@@johnnyd2383 ?? I don't fully understand what you're trying to say but, I don't watch these videos at all. I'm trying to inform people about these books not being accepted into the Protestant Bible for a reason because it isn't very reliable and some of these books Apocrypha or not are considered to be psedudepigrapha. Then, these books may have some similarities compared to the Protestant Bible but there's also some inconsistencies in some of these books (I don't know about every single book because there is a lot to touch on) but because of the inconsistencies the extra books have are not in the Protestant Bible, because they are not inspired by God like scripture in the Protestant Bible. Hopefully you seen most of the videos and if you still don't believe me take it to God and he will reveal to you the truth. God bless❤
@@winterxmm Here are few lines from the historical point of view... 2000 years ago there were in existence Old Testament books and their translation into Greek language known as Septuagint. The Church took them and put them into a canon of Christian Bible. Then Jews reduced their canon for the main reason being the fact that some books too clearly were pointing to the Jesus Christ being a Messiah. Some didn't but they removed them in order to cover their tracks... 1000 years later, Martin Luther was compiling his own Bible canon and used Jewish reduced canon while The Church retained it's original canon based on Septuagint. Those books are still in Eastern Orthodox Church Bible canonical books while in Protestant Bible they aren't. Our Protestant brethren are ripped off of some books that are in The Church still in use. Hope this clarifies it... Peace.!
To the Protestant evangelizer in this comment, I hope that you do lead some people to Jesus Christ in spite of your gross ignorance of History.
Insofar as you preach Jesus Christ crucified, dead, and Resurrected, you do preach the gospel. Insofar as you preach baptism as the means of entrance into the Christian Life, you do well. Insofar as you preach the gospel as the word of God, useful for instruction and teaching, I applaud you.
But I do not even think you understand what it means to be a Protestant. Or an Evangelical. I'm sure you look up to Martin Luther. Yet how very little you know what he talked or believed. You would do well to see what confessional Lutheran churches believe to understand your own position as a Christian.
Confessional Lutherans are vehemently Protestant. Martin Luther invented the five Solas you probably claim to believe. And the Canon of scripture you have came from Martin Luther. You ought to learn from him. And when you do, you will also realize that they do respect the Virgin Mary, all of the Saints. They believe in sacraments, not ordinances, which really convey Grace not by my actions but because God works through them. And faith alone means God gives you faith, not you declaring faith.
Ask any confessional Lutheran pastor about these things and you will find that is indeed what Lutherans practice. And if the most Protestants of Protestants practice sacraments and the veneration of the Saints and the reading of the Church Fathers and books that you consider to be worthless dreck...
Perhaps your Gospel is not as deep as it needs to be, even though it is a good starting place.
Gods Word is supplement for my spirit. I long for His Word. Jesus, thank you for your passion and selflessness. I love you so much and am so unworthy yet your mercy reigns on me for your name sake. All the glory and the honor and splendor belongs to Our Lord. 💙
This book the book of proverbs the book of James and the book of Ecclesiastes as well as all books will help you to become more sober and vigilant.
Glory be to you Lord God Almighty forever and ever for this wonderful book, God richly bless you all Amen Amen Amen
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This is beautiful. You're a great narrator also. Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed it.
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Thank you. It speaks to those belonging to the kingdom, we glean much, it describes our dispositions as seekers of truth/wisdom above human wisdom is the fruit of holy-spirit, galatians 5,22,23 describes the 7 fruits of the holy-spirit given to those prophesying, declaring truth in the last days. Joel 2: 28,29
Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined.
Beautiful! Thank you so very much. This is my introduction to Sirach and most inspiring for the humanitarian works which are now in the planning stages. God bless you!
Okay o
Wisdom, so real for the present time
"Ecclesiasticus" for older folks. It was included in the Septuagint version of Scriptures long before the Masoretic translation (which was a corrupted Hebrew version),
The "Septuagint ", was read and recognized as Scripture in Jesus' time as well as the Early Church Fathers. "The Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures called the Septuagint did include Ecclesiasticus, making it popular among Greek-speaking Jews in Egypt." "Ecclesiasticus was originally written in Hebrew though it also existed in Greek after being translated in Egypt by the author's grandson Joshua. It is believed Shimon was living in Alexandria, Egypt, where he had started a Jewish school, at the time of the book's compilation. " The Septuagint is the version of the Old Testament that has the most prophecies about Jesus Christ. The Masoretic translation corrupted many of those prophecies about Jesus or just removed them.
do you know which septuagint version of Bible I should buy. what is the ISBN number? I have a KJV Bible
This is the Wisdom of Solomon.💯💯💯
I so enjoyed listening to this was fantastic 💖🌿💖
As for the argument I have to say
It's about being obedient, to our Lord and master our creator)💞👑🦁🪨🎁🔥🎶🎷
The most high said his children would transgress his his times and laws"
However I pray they stop using Jesus as the excuse for their transgressions.
That was awesome
The Book of Sirach and the Book of Isaiah writing are almost directly Identical.
It would be neat to see someone compile the similarities.
If I am not mistaken, THIS IS THE BOOK OF THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON, NOT SIRACH.
Where can I find this version in written form there seems to be much translations of the Bible and they do not begin Sirach with these words??
Wisdom is Mother Jerusalem the heavenly kingdom ❤ the Rev 12 woman 😊
This is the book of wisdom (of solomon) not the book of wisdom of sirach
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This is not “The Wisdom of Yeshua Ben Sira”, aka “Ecclesiasticus” this reading is “The Wisdom of Solomon” also in the Apocrypha.
Great book. Here titled wrong. The name is the Wisdom of Solomon.
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@@winterxmm Because you replied with such kindness and grace, I watched the videos you suggested. There is much I could reply to there. No doubt the arguments presented are well thought out, but I cannot agree. There are always difficulties in texts. The canonized Bible has many places where we all stop and do research to fully understand a passage so that it can be understood as harmonizing with the rest of the text. So too these apocrypha have such passages. Yet there is much in them that rings so true. I think everyone needs to stop and ask themselves why they accept certain books and not others. Is it because the Catholic church said so? Is it because some publisher decided they could make more money by publishing a smaller volume that didn't include books that trace their canonicity to before Christ and the writing of the Septuagint and probably well before that? If we are saying that what God spoke in scripture, which simply means writings, shall not be heard and we are saying it for frivolous reasons, woe to that person.
What are those lights moving across the picture
Nothing supernatural:) Just a video effect:)
Tho know thee whence thy glowing orbs manifest, even how tho has manifested thy mysterys of YoubicusTubicus? Speak the about thy wisdoms.
I am reading a Bible but there is no book of sirach . They corrupt and decieved so many . So many books they take them out
Some people aren't desirable of the secret place In The Lord. Some hunger AND thirst after righteousness. Some,e are called and some are chosen. The least will be the greatest and the greatest will be the least. It's a personal salvation.
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This should be titled "the Wisdom of Solomon," not Sirach. The book of Sirach is a completely different book (and better, IMO), also known as Ecclesiasticus.
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Sounds great at 0.75 speed
Good stuff also 🙏
This is “The wisdom of Solomon” not Sirach..
Why are you eeading the wisdom of solomon and the title is wrong makes me mad! I wanted to hear Sirach book!
Yeah bro. This is the Wisdom of Solomon, Not the Wisdom of Sirach/Ecclesiasticus
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@@badgerlordpatrick6493 Are you asking me why or other dude? If you are asking me then I dont understand the question. If you mean why is it not the wisdom of Sirach, then, look up the wisdom of Solomon. This is that.
@@christconscious1784 I'm asking the Protestant.
@@badgerlordpatrick6493 Lol. Fair enough
If it is true, it will not contradict any scripture. I read non-canon books knowing the bible very well
This is the Wisdom of Solomon not the Wisdom of Sirach
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This is the Wisdom of Solomon not Sirach but thank you for narrating the Wisdom of Solomon 🥰
Does the lord thy God hold to name? So there for why does the word hold bondage too name. For is it still not wisdom is it still not food?
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You mean the daughters...