Thank you for a clear demonstration of angle settings for Tormek, i too was starting to use Vadim’s sotware, unfortunately my iPad was destroyed and like you said I can’t find his apps anymore. I am trying to find alternative one without success so far. Can you help? Thanks
Thank you and I’m glad it was helpful. I’ve just updated the video description with a couple of links that you could use to multiple calculator options… Some are free and some are paid. I’ve not tested them out yet, but I know some of the sharpeners that created them and they are excellent. I originally had the grinding angle calculator on an ipad too, but some little fingers accidentally deleted it when I wasn’t watching ;) I was able to download a windows-based version from the KG website, but unfortunately his Apple/iOS version needed a special download code directly from Vadim, so cannot be purchased anymore.. Thanks for watching and good luck with your sharpening.
I have had a Tornek since 2095 . Diing great . I have always uestioned the angle meaduring the second bevel as it seems the actual cutting bevel should be measured . If the secondary angle is 17 , what is the actual cutting bevel ? Seems it would be much steeper . I have measured with a digitial angle meter and seems the described secondary bevek angle is actual. I was wondering if the actual cutting bevel was refected in setting the tirnek gauge 🤔
Please excuse my comment. I have a Tormec T8, and there is a shaft that restrains the rotation of the leather wheel. It is constantly clicking, and at the same time, the axis is repeatedly moving back and forth, and the vibration is transmitted to the entire body of the machine. I have asked the dealer and the manufacturer and they say it is within normal limits. Does your Tormek have similar symptoms?
Hello, I can’t quite picture what you mean, but I’ve just uploaded a basic video (Short) showing my T8 spinning freely. You can compare yours to that and let me know if you see/hear any differences.
I was able to buy the windows version from the KG site last year (after Vadim passed away), but I think iOS versions are permanently gone now. I originally had that, but was accidentally deleted when changing devices…. Unfortunately that means I need a tablet and a PC when I’m sharpening…
One thing that still puzzles me is that you use the same wheel for course and fine sharpening by re-profiling the wheel with the profiling stone. Doesn’t that excessively wears the wheel if keep changing it from course/fine multiple times a day ? What am I missing?
Intuitively it would seem so, but in practice very little material is removed, and as long as you have a way to accurately measure wheel diameter you can use it for a long time. I would guess more knives than a CBN wheel but I don’t have data to support that.
One thing you could do is get two wheels, one for fine sharpening and one for course, simply swap between the two. Or even two Tormek's, one lower grade 100-200 dollar one used for course, and a new higher grade one for fine precision work.
I'm wondering if you or any of your viewers have used those notches on the angle finder to determine that correct angle on the targeted blade. Personally, I've found them absolutely useless. Perhaps I'm wrong?
I personally don’t find it very useful because the knife can normally wobble around inside so it’s not very clear. You can use it as a starting point, but not for a definitive edge angle determination.
You do it the low technology way, just use the Tormek angle guage or if you are more interested in replication the existing grind angle of the knife you are sharpening, a felt marker. Unless you are a knife manufacturer and are advertising a specific grind angle the software is an overkill, and that comes from a very anal mechanical engineer.
This method, devised by Vadim is just FAR too intricate and complicated for the average blade sharpener. One could also use the notched angle guide atop the Angle Master to determine and set the grind angle accordingly. Shouldn't one know the original bevel of the blade as set by the factory, if new before arbitrarily selecting a suggested angle ie. 16° for European style knives and 15° for Japanese style knives? I recently sharpened several Wenger chefs knives and found their original ground angle to be 20° per side and ground accordingly. They were extremely sharp with very little metal removed. Why then would I change that original factory set angle to something else? Plus, how does this highly technical angle measurement sharpening method lend itself to "put through" of sharpening customer blades in a timely manner? In one of his last videos, Vadim had abandoned his multiple Tormek machines for precision, high speed bench grinders with superb buffing wheels. A knife could be sharpened in 2 minutes & 17 seconds. So, is Vadim a Guru of the knife sharpening business? No, he made his reputation and TH-cam money starting with Tormek grinders then moved on to the REAL MONEY, Commercial Sharpening! Unfortunately, you too seem to have fallen into the Vadim discipleship. Sharpening is a basic procedure. Been around for thousands of years. Get the blade sharp to serve its intended purpose. 🍁🦒
Thanks very much - some important points you raise that are well worth discussing. I’ve posted a video as a reply because I think it would be too long to write it all out. Thanks again- I appreciate the input.
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I was never clear on how to use the angle setting jig until your video. Thank you for the clear instructions.
Thank you for a clear demonstration of angle settings for Tormek, i too was starting to use Vadim’s sotware, unfortunately my iPad was destroyed and like you said I can’t find his apps anymore. I am trying to find alternative one without success so far. Can you help? Thanks
Thank you and I’m glad it was helpful. I’ve just updated the video description with a couple of links that you could use to multiple calculator options… Some are free and some are paid. I’ve not tested them out yet, but I know some of the sharpeners that created them and they are excellent.
I originally had the grinding angle calculator on an ipad too, but some little fingers accidentally deleted it when I wasn’t watching ;) I was able to download a windows-based version from the KG website, but unfortunately his Apple/iOS version needed a special download code directly from Vadim, so cannot be purchased anymore..
Thanks for watching and good luck with your sharpening.
Great content .... !!!!
I have had a Tornek since 2095 . Diing great . I have always uestioned the angle meaduring the second bevel as it seems the actual cutting bevel should be measured . If the secondary angle is 17 , what is the actual cutting bevel ? Seems it would be much steeper . I have measured with a digitial angle meter and seems the described secondary bevek angle is actual. I was wondering if the actual cutting bevel was refected in setting the tirnek gauge 🤔
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it and help us newbies :-)
Dziękuję , nie rozumiem co mowisz , ale jak pokazałeś to teraz wiem jak używać kontomierza 😊😊😊
Excellent video, thank you for making it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Verygood explaination thank you
Please excuse my comment.
I have a Tormec T8, and there is a shaft that restrains the rotation of the leather wheel. It is constantly clicking, and at the same time, the axis is repeatedly moving back and forth, and the vibration is transmitted to the entire body of the machine. I have asked the dealer and the manufacturer and they say it is within normal limits.
Does your Tormek have similar symptoms?
Hello, I can’t quite picture what you mean, but I’ve just uploaded a basic video (Short) showing my T8 spinning freely. You can compare yours to that and let me know if you see/hear any differences.
th-cam.com/users/shortsFdd_K-LSVmQ?feature=shared
Thank you for sharing.
Does the stone come tru?
Is the knife grinder of australia software still available? Not sure the site is being maintained since his passing.
Great video!
I was able to buy the windows version from the KG site last year (after Vadim passed away), but I think iOS versions are permanently gone now. I originally had that, but was accidentally deleted when changing devices…. Unfortunately that means I need a tablet and a PC when I’m sharpening…
One thing that still puzzles me is that you use the same wheel for course and fine sharpening by re-profiling the wheel with the profiling stone. Doesn’t that excessively wears the wheel if keep changing it from course/fine multiple times a day ?
What am I missing?
Intuitively it would seem so, but in practice very little material is removed, and as long as you have a way to accurately measure wheel diameter you can use it for a long time. I would guess more knives than a CBN wheel but I don’t have data to support that.
One thing you could do is get two wheels, one for fine sharpening and one for course, simply swap between the two.
Or even two Tormek's, one lower grade 100-200 dollar one used for course, and a new higher grade one for fine precision work.
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Was you angle identical on each side of the knife? You only checked one side.
Yes it was. Sorry, I often skip steps in the process just to keep the videos a reasonable length.
I'm wondering if you or any of your viewers have used those notches on the angle finder to determine that correct angle on the targeted blade. Personally, I've found them absolutely useless. Perhaps I'm wrong?
I personally don’t find it very useful because the knife can normally wobble around inside so it’s not very clear. You can use it as a starting point, but not for a definitive edge angle determination.
they're good for chisels, useless for knives
@@pockynebula9225 the way this comment was displayed I thought you were saying the Tormek is no good for knives 😂
@@greatedgeltd lol, no no, just the notches in the angle finder
One could buy a digital anglefinder?
In theory, yes, but they are tricky with a tormek because you aren’t resting the knife on a flat (horizontal surface)…
wunnerful
If you don’t have the software, how do you determine the bar height?
You do it the low technology way, just use the Tormek angle guage or if you are more interested in replication the existing grind angle of the knife you are sharpening, a felt marker. Unless you are a knife manufacturer and are advertising a specific grind angle the software is an overkill, and that comes from a very anal mechanical engineer.
Time to do a new video on how all this relate to the new KS-123 knife angle setter😉
Where can I buy a Goniometer like yours?
Bought mine from sharpeningtool.eu a few years ago.
they mention 10 000 hours of operating time, does it go garbage after reaching such hours ?
These Tormek’s are so durable, I’m sure it will easily surpass 10,000 hours.
Speed talking, sure wish I could understand you. Nerves maybe or fast talker, your video go ahead I will find another site.
Play it at 0.75x if that helps you….
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Too much talking
I’m working on a new video with 12% fewer words.
This method, devised by Vadim is just FAR too intricate and complicated for the average blade sharpener. One could also use the notched angle guide atop the Angle Master to determine and set the grind angle accordingly. Shouldn't one know the original bevel of the blade as set by the factory, if new before arbitrarily selecting a suggested angle ie. 16° for European style knives and 15° for Japanese style knives? I recently sharpened several Wenger chefs knives and found their original ground angle to be 20° per side and ground accordingly. They were extremely sharp with very little metal removed. Why then would I change that original factory set angle to something else? Plus, how does this highly technical angle measurement sharpening method lend itself to "put through" of sharpening customer blades in a timely manner? In one of his last videos, Vadim had abandoned his multiple Tormek machines for precision, high speed bench grinders with superb buffing wheels. A knife could be sharpened in 2 minutes & 17 seconds. So, is Vadim a Guru of the knife sharpening business? No, he made his reputation and TH-cam money starting with Tormek grinders then moved on to the REAL MONEY, Commercial Sharpening! Unfortunately, you too seem to have fallen into the Vadim discipleship. Sharpening is a basic procedure. Been around for thousands of years. Get the blade sharp to serve its intended purpose. 🍁🦒
Thanks very much - some important points you raise that are well worth discussing. I’ve posted a video as a reply because I think it would be too long to write it all out. Thanks again- I appreciate the input.